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Posted by: koze

Amazing to see that there are MIT undergrads that have common sense...

"The Police @ MIT
Issued: October 6, 2003

Please be advised that on Sunday, October 5, 2003 at approximately 1:10 AM members of a Boston fraternity stated that two individuals tried to gain entrance into their fraternity. One identified himself as a Boston police officer. The individual quickly showed an id and badge then lifted his shirt exposing the handle of a gun tucked into his waistband. The suspects tried to force their way into the fraternity when one of the fraternity brothers told the two suspects to wait a minute for the arrival of the MIT Police. When told to wait the two suspects fled into the Kenmore Square area. A third suspect was involved but he stayed on the sidewalk and fled at the same time.

The victims describe the suspects as follows: Subject 1) male, white, late thirties, short brown hair, clean shaved wearing a black sweatshirt. Subject 2) male, white, short brown hair slicked back, clean shaved, wearing jeans and a red nylon "Red Sox" warm up jacket, showing police identification and a black handle of a semi-automatic handgun. No description other than a white male on the third individual.

A check with Boston Police was made and verified that it was not them."

Posted by: ryan933

Unfortunately the "requirements" for police id. cards are pretty slack, making it very easy to produce a fake. It just seems wrong that a drivers license has more fraud prevention features than a police id!

Ryan

Posted by:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan933

Unfortunately the "requirements" for police id. cards are pretty slack, making it very easy to produce a fake. It just seems wrong that a drivers license has more fraud prevention features than a police id!

Ryan

AMEN, I hear that, same goes for badges as well.

Posted by:

I heard the call go out that night for Boston Police to meet MIT Police in the 400 block of Comm Ave. I guess they must have called MIT Police first which may have caused a delay in responding and possible apprehension of these jerks.

Not to knock any department but I think a quick call to 911 even before or after the call was placed to MIT PD would have been more prudent. Even if MIT had called BPD on BAPERN to announce what they had and why they were going over would have given a quicker heads up to all involved. There's a better chance of catching these maggots if more units are aware of the situation.

Well thats alot to expect from college kids even if they did do the right thing and notify an agency instead of heading back upstairs for another bong hit.

Posted by: mpd61

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousingCop

I heard the call go out that night for Boston Police to meet MIT Police in the 400 block of Comm Ave. I guess they must have called MIT Police first which may have caused a delay in responding and possible apprehension of these jerks.

Not to knock any department but I think a quick call to 911 even before or after the call was placed to MIT PD would have been more prudent. Even if MIT had called BPD on BAPERN to announce what they had and why they were going over would have given a quicker heads up to all involved. There's a better chance of catching these maggots if more units are aware of the situation.

Well thats alot to expect from college kids even if they did do the right thing and notify an agency instead of heading back upstairs for another bong hit.

WTF?
Are you for real? do you ever give up?

Posted by:

MCCPD61,

You obviously think you are supercop and could handle a gun call alone in the mean streets, er parking lots you patrol in Brockbury & Cantonpan. The more cops that know about a situation in the shortest amount of time = a quicker apprehension of the bad guys.

There are 2 Patrolmen on the 12-8 shift for 60,000 residents where I work. Do you actually think I tell people to call our emergency number first if somebody is bashing down their door? No, I tell them to dial 911 and my dispatcher is right across the room from them. We then both get the call. I may be 1/2 way across the city or I might be 1/2 a block away.

Boston has about 1,600 cops vs 38 that we have. Who do you think will have better response time when there are only 2 guys working? It's a no-brainer. Something you definately know about. Get a clue.

Do you just write stupid things on here just to get the points? If so, you can have all mine. You need them more than me.

Posted by: DUKE1005

I would have to side with HousingCop on this one! Even though you can't expect the average Joe to know that, it would have been ideal to call BPD also. Maybe BPD had a little more info on these dickbags and maybe they didn't but at least those kids had enough sense to call someone about it!

Posted by:

Duke,

That's all I was trying to say in here but yet got needlessly slammed. Although I deserve being slammed sometimes I didn't think that this was one of them.

The more people informed, the better I say. Precious minutes were wasted since MIT PD is mainly based in Cambridge. The ride over, and then calling 911 / call screening / prioritizing and then the final dispatch and arrival of BPD units on scene can take anywhere from seconds to minutes. Kenmore Square was a zoo that night and BPD units were only 30 seconds from the 400 block of Comm Ave. These clowns may even have walked by responding units. Not only does BPD get the call, S/P, NUPD, Harvard U, Wentworth, BUPD, Munie's and Housing all have their ears on and are close by in some cases.

This wasn't an average call for a guy drinking beer and throwing bottles off the frat house roof, this was an attempted home invasion / armed robbery with a F/A. Makes you wonder what the frat boys have there that's so darned important to 3 guys that they would impersonate PO's??

Posted by: Crvtte65

Quote:

Originally Posted by DUKE1005

I would have to side with HousingCop on this one! Even though you can't expect the average Joe to know that, it would have been ideal to call BPD also. Maybe BPD had a little more info on these dickbags and maybe they didn't but at least those kids had enough sense to call someone about it!

If this were known I would hope I would have heard it in my roll call. Where was that article from?

Posted by: koze

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crvtte65

Quote:

Originally Posted by DUKE1005

If this were known I would hope I would have heard it in my roll call. Where was that article from?

Just an internal email at MIT. I believe this one was sent out by the captain.

Posted by: union1

Not to slam you Housingcop, but I think MIT would have been Lucky at best to even have Boston show up for that. We have called them for several incidents involving Knives and situations which your line of thinking would be obvious. We have gotten as long as a 45 minute response time IF they even decide to show up. Most times when they show up they end up making us handle it.

Posted by: Crvtte65

BPD is generally good if we call off a situation with a weapon if we in fact need them, they are very good if an OT call goes out which is always nice.

Posted by: mpd61

Quote:

Originally Posted by union1

Not to slam you Housingcop, but I think MIT would have been Lucky at best to even have Boston show up for that. We have called them for several incidents involving Knives and situations which your line of thinking would be obvious. We have gotten as long as a 45 minute response time IF they even decide to show up. Most times when they show up they end up making us handle it.

Well in any event..................
HousingCop, BPD was notified right? I was more focused on the fact that you dissed college kids as a whole (Surprise!) And then dissed a specific jurisdiction (Surprise!) Have a nice day.

Posted by:

Hey Massasoit Community College Cop,

Didn't I say "Not to knock any department........." before I went on to explain that someone should have notified BPD? How much time and effort does it take to pick up a phone and call the primary jurisdiction or even lean over & flip a switch and call them on BAPERN? Shouldn't a Sergeant or some Patrol or Duty Supervisor have made this decision? If so, shame on them.

Like I said, this wasn't your average ordinary s#it call. It involves 3 people, a badge and a gun. Seems to me this may be more of a priority than most calls you get. But alas, time was wasted and the bad guys got away.

As for knocking students, so what? Most of them I run into can't even spell never mind have 1/2 the brain they were born with. Like I said before,
THOSE WHO CAN, DO.
THOSE WHO CAN'T TEACH.
THOSE WHO CAN'T SPELL, END UP AT MASSASIOT.

End of story. =D>

Union1, I do sympathise with your unique situation. You are in one of the best places in downtown with alot of s#itbirds who hang & roll in front of the Christy's on the corner. Too bad that BPD doesn't sweep those maggots more often. It's a good thing you have a Charlestown guy for a Chief! He won't take any crap from BPD.

Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

The devil, you say!

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousingCop

THOSE WHO CAN'T SPELL, END UP AT MASSASIOT.

Union1, I do sympathise...

MASSASOIT and SYMPATHIZE.
Hope that helps! Not bad for a Massasoit student, if I do say so myself...

Posted by:

Sorry, I meant to spell Massive-Toilet Community College. Where the 13th and 14th graders be getting edumacated.

Posted by: j809

Hey Housing Penis Security Guard, at least the MCC kids get an education, something much more than you'll ever have, GED dickhead.

Posted by: Capt. Kirk

Way to go Dunnie!!!!!
MASSASOIT student here

and I may not be the best at spelling , but I do know how to use the spell check!!!!!!

HEY, housing cop try it some time!!! not to knock anyone... Is that how you put it????
I know you Ed.
Don't go painting all with the same brush..

Sorry for being off topic brass...

Posted by:

Hey H50, MPD71, JB71, JB1971, BaBa Booey,

Which new screen name are you going to change to this month? What's the matter, you aren't afraid of people finding out your true identity? Is that why you keep switching? You may change your screename but you are still the same boob in my, and others, book.

Call me a security guard if you will. I at least know where I work and am not afraid to admit it. I was wondering when you were going to stick your big bazoo in this thread and post your opinion, like it matters...............

Hey Capt & Dungeon, I am not knocking the honest folks who attend Massasoit to continue their education, I am knocking the 13th & 14th graders, the 18-22 year old slackers who still live in their parents basement and smoke a bit of 94C in their cars so MCCPD61 and the former MCCPD cop, H50 can make their "Big Bust" in the parking lots they "Patrol".

I can't even see the need for a full time PD there. It's a commuter school with no dorms or permanant residents and it's a school thats only open 12 hours a day. In fact, I'll write Govenor Romney with this cash saving measure and just might win an award for saving the state some money. There's nothing there that 4 SpectaGuards can't handle for alot less money. I am sure this will spark some serious controversy on here.

I took a class in the Canton campus about a year ago and some slack-jawed stoner called out "Rent A Cop" to the Massasoit cop who walked by. I leaned over and promised to bust his head if I ever heard him do such a foolish thing ever again. Now knowing it may have been BaBa Booey or his lappdog MCCPD61, only makes this story even funnier. I still wouldn't let that slacker say it again if it was them, but it sure is funny that the cop never came into the classrom to confront this moron. He definately heard him. I would have dragged his @ss off the chair and thrown him out in a hearbeat.

As for spellcheck, I do use it often but sometimes I type fast in my furious attempt at putting some people in their place on this board. In fact, I won't use it on this post at all. Please forgive any typos and erronious grammer that may have occured.

Posted by: Capt. Kirk

Well Housing, I will forgive you this time... As for your issue with Baba booy, I don't know the guy so I can not say anything about him.
But in reguards to Massasoit not needing any police that is untrue.
I attend the canton campus, when I started the crime rate was pretty much zilch but I just got my crime rate paperwork in the mail last week and the numbers kind of scared me.

The statistics are separated so there is no lumping us with Brokton.
Last year there were 51 A&B, 14 stolen cars and 39 burglarys .
All of those crimes jumped from 0 in 2001 and 2000.
So I beg to differ that police are not needed at the Canton campus.

Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Don't worry, I promise not to correct anymore spelling mistakes in this topic. I just think it's funny.

And you're right about the slack-jaws, Housing. I have to sit through my CJ classes with about twenty-five 18-20 year old morons who all think they're either:

A. Going to be cops or
B. Really smart taking CJ classes so they can ask the instructors all sorts of stupid questions which have nothing to do with the topic we're supposed to be focusing on so they will know how to "outsmart" the cops.(e.g., "One time, I got, like, pulled over by this cop, and he, like, pulled me out of my car and searched it, and then gave me a $280 ticket... so, like, can he do that?).

In defense of the Massasoit Police, I have seen the officers on quite a few occasions putting some silly slack-jaws right in their place. Their little raging over-active hormones may help them to reason that it would be hilarious at first to give the Massasoit guys shit, but usually they end up walking away with their eyes welling up, which always is a treat for me to watch.

Posted by:

Captain,

I get the stats for Canton Police Department regularly. If the stats that that Massasoit is handing out is true, then the postage stamp sized campus they have there is responsible for about 1/3 of the crime overall in the town. Sounds like there is some sort of crime wave of historic proportions going on there, and if that's the case, some heads should roll if those figures are correct.

Sounds more like East L.A. or Watts than one of the better sections of Canton with million dollar homes. Take a gander across the street and go down York Street. Doesn't seem like much of a crime wave to me is going on there. Maybe the resident of the nearby community should be concerned of spill over from that den of Satan across the street.

Could it be that since the MCJTC In-Service program has left the campus that the crime rate has skyrocketed? Could it be that Lisa Ann was keeping those slack-jaws in check? I know she kept alot of verteran officers on their toes. Maybe having 25 cops there on a weekly basis kept this crime wave rate to a minimum but I think not.

How can figures like that be justified if they go from a zero crime to a bazillion crime rate in the span of 2 years? Doesn't seem possible in my book. Where I come from the following saying is true, "Figures lie and liars figure". Sound like they may have hired the guy who did the stats from Enron who knows how to cook the books in their favor.

From what I read, the NIJ says the crime rate is down overall nationwide. Maybe there is some sort of time warp ripple in the fabric of the universe where crime is abundant on the 1/4 mile sized Massasoit Community College campus.

Dunngeon,

You are right about some of these young-uns who take the CJ classes so they can try to outwit the cops. On many an occasion I have heard "Hey I take CJ and I know you can't do that........" to which I reply ".......just did kid. Should I put the jeannie back in the bottle?" They just give you that stupid stare as they try to figure out what you just said.

Posted by: mpd61

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousingCop

Captain,

I get the stats for Canton Police Department regularly. If the stats that that Massasoit is handing out is true, then the postage stamp sized campus they have there is responsible for about 1/3 of the crime overall in the town. Sounds like there is some sort of crime wave of historic proportions going on there, and if that's the case, some heads should roll if those figures are correct.

From what I read, the NIJ says the crime rate is down overall nationwide. Maybe there is some sort of time warp ripple in the fabric of the universe where crime is abundant on the 1/4 mile sized Massasoit Community College campus.
.

For the record:
Those Canton stats are for the entire TOWN of Canton 2002. The Cleary Act requires them to be published along with the Stats for each campus. i.e. Canton/Brockton. So I'm not sure what Canton Stats you "get regulary"
:P
The reportable crimes at MCC Canton last year were five (5) burglaries. In 2001 the stats at Canton included a Forcible sexual offense(rape)in addition to five burglaries.

Brockton Campus is obviously busier. for 2002;
two (2) aggravated A&B, 12 Burglaries, 1 M/V Larceny, 3 drug possession,
1 firearms possession, 1 arson.
Arguably police presence is warranted due to the fact that in 2000 we had 13 liquor violations, 18 drug possesssions, and two arsons.
In the past twelve months we've had one actual shooting w/leg wound and 4 indecent assaults.
Brockton campus has over 100+ acres with ten buildings, six parking lots, and a .93 mile state-maintained public-access roadway. We also patrol about ten acres and two buildings off of Crescent and Quincy streets (Massasoit Conference Center)

We had over 1100 traffic Stops last year with over 800 warnings(verbal or written) issued. We are community oriented, but do cite/arrest/tow routinely. Most of our arrests come from traffic enforcement (warrants/suspended&revoked/OUI) Just like most of the surrounding towns.

I'm sorry Housing, once again you seem to be putting in a lot of effort to knock people/departments after a pre-emptive disclaimer (or two) to the contrary. Sorry to bore everybody with a technical/factual reply to Housing spewing garbage again.

Peace

Posted by:

I guess if spewing garbage is telling the truth, then I must be spewing an awful lot of garbage on this board.

I heard running in the halls carrying scissors is considered a stat by your PD. I guess everyone in the hallway at that time must be considered a "Victim" as well.

I have my old "Schoolboy Police" badge from my days as a hall monitor in grade school here in my dresser drawer. Would you like me to pin it on you when we meet??

Posted by:

OH ya and my DICK is bigger than your DICK.

Posted by:

Hey Hunter,

Let's keep this clean now. Little kids read this board from Massasoit.

Posted by: ejk55

Brockton University should have licensed cops on their campus. I am sure that a lot of locals wander onto the campus and through the parking lots looking for trouble. But as for the Canton Campus, that is a different story.

Posted by: mpd61

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousingCop

I guess if spewing garbage is telling the truth, then I must be spewing an awful lot of garbage on this board.

I heard running in the halls carrying scissors is considered a stat by your PD. I guess everyone in the hallway at that time must be considered a "Victim" as well.

I have my old "Schoolboy Police" badge from my days as a hall monitor in grade school here in my dresser drawer. Would you like me to pin it on you when we meet??

Your maturity and wisdom are showing again. Why do you continue to choose this course? Please don't claim it's all in fun. I think we know better. In any event, you win again, I could never match you in such a battle of wits

Posted by:

Prefiero ser dueno de mi silencio
que esclavo de mis palabras.

I rather be the owner of my silence
than a slave to my words

Words to live by.

Posted by: Capt. Kirk

Well mpd61 and housing cop,
I am just going by the pamphlet the school sent to my house.
I may have not read it all the way thru but I did not see anything on it that would indicate that the stats were for the town and not just the campus.
I do agree that it is a large increase in criminal activity if indeed the stats are true.
I really don't see why they would lie about the stats.
I have heard stories that campuses keep the stats down in order to make the school look better.
Seems to me that increasing the numbers or lumping it with the towns stats would be bad for the schools image.
just my

Posted by: mpd61

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousingCop

Prefiero ser dueno de mi silencio
que esclavo de mis palabras.

I rather be the owner of my silence
than a slave to my words

Words to live by.

Nice philosophy, as indicated by your prevalence to have the last WORD.
You are such a hippocrytical little ass. You don't even hear yourself!

Can some body shoot me now? or at least lock the thread? YIKES!

Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Yeah, it's about time. Hope everyone had fun!

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