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Can a Trooper Pay this guy a visit?

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Posted by: popo

This fool lives in Franklin and it's pretty scary looking at his vehicle. Someone from Franklin PD or MSP should pay him a visit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...78965628QQrdZ1




Posted by: mpd61

Are you totally serious?




Posted by: Wolfman

What a piece of junk. Buyer beware.


Posted by: futureMSP

That type of stuff makes you wonder what is wrong with people.


Posted by: KozmoKramer

Quote:
Because this was a state vehicle, there is carpet.
Huh? As opposed to municipal vehicles that have linoleum and civilian vehicles that are ceramic tiled? Nitwit...


Posted by: frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by KozmoKramer
Huh? As opposed to municipal vehicles that have linoleum and civilian vehicles that are ceramic tiled? Nitwit...
a large portion of the cruisers out there have rubber flooring...it's an option from the factory. I agree that someone should find out what the guy's story is...he's pretending that the state "left" all the equipment in it, when he obviously added it himself...and what's he doing running around with lights and siren for?


Posted by: Killjoy

What a goof.....but hey, if you can't make THROUGH an MSP academy, at least you can PLAY the role! Just what we need.....unauthorized-reserve-intermittent-part-time-semi-troopers!


Posted by: tellyour

Quote:

100 Watt speaker mounted on front push bumper is extremely loud, moves people out of the way!!!
Please tell me this guy is not serious.


Posted by: rhl

It should be noted that there are, at my last count, at least 14 troopers living in Franklin. This clown won't get 1/4 mile before he's stopped. State law says if you buy an old MSP cruiser at auction, the two-tone blue must be painted over. rhl


Posted by: sgtmvm

Has anyone done an R7 on the VIN? Would be interesting for the right person to check and then follow up with the owner...and yes as rhl said when you purchase these at auctions, part of the written agreement you sign is to paint over the original colors within 30 days of purchase...again when you open up the VIN listing from R7 it will tell the title/status dates and whatnot to see just how long the guy had had this...


Posted by: USMCMP5811

Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtmvm
Has anyone done an R7 on the VIN? Would be interesting for the right person to check and then follow up with the owner...and yes as rhl said when you purchase these at auctions, part of the written agreement you sign is to paint over the original colors within 30 days of purchase...again when you open up the VIN listing from R7 it will tell the title/status dates and whatnot to see just how long the guy had had this...


That was a good Idea sgtmvm. I think those with access to CJIS/LEAPS in the MetroWest area should R7 the vin# as posted. it's interesting.......

VIN Number: 2fafp71w9yx187145


Posted by: Mr.90/24

Sir,

I hope and pray that we are still able to allow trainees to earn the title "TROOPER" I hope the academy doesn't get watered down. I earned my way through New Braintree, which I may add was a winter class. Well, lets continue to pray that the academy nor the job doesn't change. Thanks Trooper!


Posted by: Wolfman

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.90/24
Sir,

I hope and pray that we are still able to allow trainees to earn the title "TROOPER" I hope the academy doesn't get watered down. I earned my way through New Braintree, which I may add was a winter class. Well, lets continue to pray that the academy nor the job doesn't change. Thanks Trooper!



Posted by: Mr.90/24



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Posted by: Mr.90/24

Sir,

This guy has a better cruiser then I do!


Posted by: MSP75

I don't have carpet in my sled! I got screwed!


Posted by: popo

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don't have carpet in my sled! I got screwed!
Sound like a grievance.


Posted by: SOT

WOW that's a sweet deal. I'm gonna buy it, put a whole bunch of lights on it, maybe an MSP emblem...what an a$$ hat.


Posted by: Tackleberry

If you look at the picture of the interior you can see that he has a Whelen Talon dash light in the front window. It's not included with the purchase of the vehicle so this retard is running around with a blue light and I somehow doubt he's got a permit.


Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Originally Posted by Tackleberry
If you look at the picture of the interior you can see that he has a Whelen Talon dash light in the front window. It's not included with the purchase of the vehicle so this retard is running around with a blue light and I somehow doubt he's got a permit.



Not only that, but if you look at all the pics on the E-Bay ad, you'll notice all the hack wiring......No way that was a MHQ installation.........Not only that, he claims in his ad that the big siren speaker on the front bumper is really loud and moves traffic real well, I wonder how he came to that conclusion.........


Posted by: Wolfman

Maybe people are laughing at the car so hard they have to pull over or risk running off the road and hit a tree..


Posted by: thumper2168

I can tell you that the LED lights are not there anymore as I took them and dropped them off at Holliston PD after talking with them.....


Posted by: frank

Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper2168
I can tell you that the LED lights are not there anymore as I took them and dropped them off at Holliston PD after talking with them.....


good work!


Posted by: Delta784

The person who "bought" it has zero feedback. Want to bet it's someone just screwing with the guy?


Posted by: SinePari

Check out these wannabees. That guy in Franklin is probably on this website somewhere.

http://http://www.cardomain.com/Make...own%20Victoria


Posted by: reno911_2004

Bad link, try this www.cardomain.com/MakeModel/Ford/Crown%20Victoria

My favorite part:

This is just a little side-note for anyone who wants to get an old police cruiser...
Be prepared, if you do end up buying one of these, get ready to be messed with by every local law-enforcement agency around you...
ive been pulled over about 13 times since ive had the car(7 1/2 months)..
And get this, each and every one of them told me different stories about my acessories...
everyone has hassled me about my car except for my local cops(sterling hts.)
the only thing they do is give me a wave when we pass, or complement me on how clean my car looks lol
does that make sense?


Posted by: SinePari

Thanks for the link update. I know you don't have to be a brain surgeon to get on the job, but some of these guys actually have a clear view of thier plates in the pictures! Morons!


Posted by: USMCMP5811

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
Thanks for the link update. I know you don't have to be a brain surgeon to get on the job, but some of these guys actually have a clear view of thier plates in the pictures! Morons!

That and they can't figgure out why they keep getting hasseled......


Posted by: popo

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I can tell you that the LED lights are not there anymore as I took them and dropped them off at Holliston PD after talking with them
You should sell them back to him through EBAY.


Posted by: RPD931

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Originally Posted by thumper2168
I can tell you that the LED lights are not there anymore as I took them and dropped them off at Holliston PD after talking with them.....
Nice Thumper!! Did you have a little "pow-wow" with this s-bird?


Posted by: frapmpd24

Quote:
Originally Posted by thumper2168
I can tell you that the LED lights are not there anymore as I took them and dropped them off at Holliston PD after talking with them.....
And I will take those lights. What? No permit? Here is a nice gig you can throw on your dash instead, but it won't blink as well.

I saw a kid, could not have been more than 18 or 19 yrs old, on the pike out in the Springfield area last week. Had a CB antenna on the back, dark blue unmarked style, retard behind the wheel... Some people...


Posted by: topcop14

I saw a kid, could not have been more than 18 or 19 yrs old, on the pike out in the Springfield area last week. Had a CB antenna on the back, dark blue unmarked style, retard behind the wheel... Some people...[/quote]

Hey Frap, Have you seen the shit bird in the older CV complete with thin blue line sticker on the back window? I have seen it around your town as well as mine. Unfotunatly the owner also works the grave yard shift. Too bad its the grave yard shift at stop and shop


Posted by: SOT

I've seen that kid too...drive like a total asshat.


Quote:
Originally Posted by topcop14
I saw a kid, could not have been more than 18 or 19 yrs old, on the pike out in the Springfield area last week. Had a CB antenna on the back, dark blue unmarked style, retard behind the wheel... Some people...
Hey Frap, Have you seen the shit bird in the older CV complete with thin blue line sticker on the back window? I have seen it around your town as well as mine. Unfotunatly the owner also works the grave yard shift. Too bad its the grave yard shift at stop and shop[/quote]


Posted by: frapmpd24

Quote:
Originally Posted by topcop14
I saw a kid, could not have been more than 18 or 19 yrs old, on the pike out in the Springfield area last week. Had a CB antenna on the back, dark blue unmarked style, retard behind the wheel... Some people...
Hey Frap, Have you seen the shit bird in the older CV complete with thin blue line sticker on the back window? I have seen it around your town as well as mine. Unfotunatly the owner also works the grave yard shift. Too bad its the grave yard shift at stop and shop[/quote]

If it's the maroon one yes, it caught my eye heading over the line near the pike a while back. If not there are more than one invading our towns. My God that's the last thing we need , more fools.

Working mids at stop and shop is enough to reason to slap a thin blue line sticker on the window ? Has anyone given him an application to the FD? Would fit in on a few of the local ones for sure... ya think?


Posted by: scannerk

Haha, if you go to the link of the auction and click on the winning bidders name, you will see that the bidder never paid for the car or anything.


Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by scannerk
Haha, if you go to the link of the auction and click on the winning bidders name, you will see that the bidder never paid for the car or anything.
The goofball seller has re-listed it;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-...QQcmdZViewItem


Posted by: kwflatbed

Vehicle Description
I am relisting this item a third time due to dead beat bidders. Do not bid unless you intend to buy!


Posted by: Sgt. Canseco

Quote:
I am relisting this item a third time due to dead beat bidders. Do not bid unless you intend to buy!
TOO Funny!!!!!


Posted by: Mitpo62

Is she trying to "tune in" radio free Europe?


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwflatbed
Vehicle Description
I am relisting this item a third time due to dead beat bidders. Do not bid unless you intend to buy!
You would think he would get the hint and spend $500 for an Earl Schieb paint job......


Posted by: CJIS

Hmm... anyone in the mood for putting in an anonymous tip? May not result in any investigation but you could say you did your part in reporting suspicious activity. Who knows the guy may have a history of playing cop. Hell maybe I will do it just for craps and giggles.


Posted by: Wolfman

I wonder if the air horn costs extra...


Posted by: Ptlm.Shamrock147

Hee-Haw says the donkey.... What a Jackass!!!


Posted by: cmpsa

Hello All:

Story Time...

I'm brand new to this list. Reading this made me laugh as it still shows how stupid the "Commonwealth" is. Here's why:

Feb '00: I bought a 93 Ford CV MSP administrative cruiser from a used car dealer who buys 40+ state police cars every year at the State's vehicle auction up at ?Devens? - I think. The dealer bought the cruiser from the state, he put it in the WantAd up for sale. The cruiser was a flat-top (no light bar but lights on the dash & back window) and MSP 2-tone blue! Now to stupidity, the state surplus blames the MSP people for this, the cruiser was sold with:So I paid for the car, drove it home, registered it w/ a regular plate and oops - my registration says under Model: "POLICE". So I have a 1993 Ford Police Sedan blue. Great. So I go back to the registry and tell the supervisor of that and she says well it said police in the (box) before it has to stay. I was like ok. Anyhow, I start driving it around more & more (it's still MSP blue now) and one day I was accidentally speeding (truth) and I got pulled over of an MSP radar trap. The trooper asked what barracks I work out of. I tell him that I'm not a PO. He got irate wondering where I got this nice car and I said the MSP state vehicle auction. He gave me a hard time, wrote me up a ticket for the fullest amount and added on the listing "driving a MSP painted cruiser w/ out permission from the MSP" and said he would summonsed me to court to have to explain it. The next day driving by but on a different road, the same guy was around and saw me, he pulled me over as I was 6mph under the speed limit. He was irate again and demanded that I cannot drive it anymore and that he would repo it now. I told him I was going to file harassment charges and asked what Ch 90 violation he pulled me over for. He said I did nothing wrong and he wants to know where I stole it from. I said I bought it from a used car dealer and the State sold it this way. He didn't believe me so I wrote down the guys name I got it from. I told him I was leaving as it was an illegal mv stop and I was seeking a lawyer. He mumbled to himself and I took off.

The 3rd day I switched vehicles but let another co-worked of mine use it for a few days. He got pulled over 13 times in five days all asking where did this car come from? But he didn't get any citations.

Meanwhile I met w/ a lawyer and boy was someone going to get screwed to the wall. He called the State surplus director and asked for him to fax & mail over every paper on that cruiser and we threatened that the State surplus violated my rights as they were at fault for all my issues. Well, to our surprise that director stuck up for us and filed a complaint to the trooper's (the Major at his barracks) and told the trooper to back off as the State surplus dept sold that cruiser in good faith and all legitimacy of the MGL and the MSP would have to file new laws if they want something changed. Well that started a huge fight between the MSP and State surplus dept. My trooper guy was mailed every bit of paperwork on my legal MSP cruiser painted 2-tone MSP blue and that no one had any right to tell me I can't drive around it in that way. The trooper was so pissed beyond belief. So I continued to drive around w/ it still MSP blue for another 3 months, no trooper ever bothered me again. Then I get a phone call from a MSP friend saying I was on the "hit list" and to look out - I might get hurt.

Meantime, my lawyer did some extensive research and found out evidence on my side. He found out that the 2-tone MSP colors were not patented and no paperwork was on file w/ the US Goverment Patent Office in Wash, DC. So my lawyer sent some letters and got the paint codes and the paint manufacturing formula and got an US Govt Patent application in hand. Before we wanted to now claim ownership of the MSP paint scheme, he mailed out letters to the MSP Frmaingham and to State surplus advising them they could be in violation of a huge crisis and to negociate it out. Well, luckily it went WELL and the MSP Framingham top boss' decided to let it be and stopped fighting State surplus w/ issues on "sales of MSP cruisers". The US Govt paperwork was turned over to MSP Framingham so the State wouldn't be screwed of loosing its paint scheme. Who knows if they ever filed it in for ownership of it or not? That trooper then called me out of the blue and appologized to me for his actions and I ended up being nice in return and had the car painted white, and then finally took the prisoner cage out too! lol

And in the end, we still used the car until one day in Jan '01 our EMT employee stopped to help out at a huge car accident on a black ice day, and a speeding motorist lost control and smashed in the back of it totalling it. So it's life ended short.

The cruiser belonged to an administrative trooper who worked and comuted to Framingham barracks because it only had $30,545 miles on it (from new in '93 till '00). A MSP friend of mine had run into the guy who used to drive it and that's how I found out he rarely did patrol and was for commutting only.

So now that I saw this MSP cruiser - seems not much has changed since '00. Also ready for this, there is a MGL on the books regarding police vehicles sale, etc. I can't find it at my fingertips but another stupid law states that "anyone can purchase a former police vehicle and drive it the way it is!" BUT "however, if the person (or auto dealer) then decides to sell it, then that person (or dealer) MUST paint it one solid color (at his expense) and sell it once painted! What happened in my case is the State surplus Dept. (that auction day) did not have any buyers sign the "Understanding of MGL agreement" which is a legal binding document between the State surplus and the dealer buying the vehciles stating that now that you have bought this, you are hereby required that if you sell it, you WILL paint it. If not, then that buyer can & will be fined under the MGL for violation of not painting it. So, since the State didn't have the buyers sign that form, the law could not be applied! Which is why State surplus sided w/ my issue because the State could not enforce the MGL as they screwed up. Which is why the State wrote the trooper a letter on state letterhead saying I had every right to drive that car painted the way it was and is as it was sold "as is painted like that".

After all this I understand everyone's actions and but I agree the State shouldn't even be selling cruisers as is - painted MSP blue to begin with. The State should be responsible for the repainting BEFORE the auction.

Good story huh.. After all this headache, I recommend to never buy any cruiser still painted. My personal experience...


Posted by: NorwichAlum

cmpsa,

My question is why would you purchase a MSP vehicle and drive it around decked out like that in the first place? Try looking at it from a PO's point of view. How many stories have you heard about people impersonating PO's? How would you like it if some shitbird stopped your mother/wife/sister in a fake police car and then assaulted them?

It sounds like all you were doing was busting balls. What did you expect back? I'm glad you eventually painted the car, but I hope you realize that most cops have a legitimate reason for doing what they do....and it has nothing to do with egos.


Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmpsa
And in the end, we still used the car until one day in Jan '01 our EMT employee stopped to help out at a huge car accident on a black ice day, and a speeding motorist lost control and smashed in the back of it totalling it.
"our EMT employee?"

So... you purchased this Crown Vic fooooooor... exactly what purpose now? I'm a little confused here... although I did read this post about 3 times. Did I miss something, errrrr...?


Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
"our EMT employee?"

So... you purchased this Crown Vic fooooooor... exactly what purpose now? I'm a little confused here... although I did read this post about 3 times. Did I miss something, errrrr...?
another wannabe moron who wants to play cop because he is too stupid and incompetent to be one. enough said


Posted by: Wolfman

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmpsa
Meanwhile I met w/ a lawyer and boy was someone going to get screwed to the wall. He called the State surplus director and asked for him to fax & mail over every paper on that cruiser and we threatened that the State surplus violated my rights as they were at fault for all my issues. Well, to our surprise that director stuck up for us and filed a complaint to the trooper's (the Major at his barracks) and told the trooper to back off as the State surplus dept sold that cruiser in good faith and all legitimacy of the MGL and the MSP would have to file new laws if they want something changed. Well that started a huge fight between the MSP and State surplus dept. My trooper guy was mailed every bit of paperwork on my legal MSP cruiser painted 2-tone MSP blue and that no one had any right to tell me I can't drive around it in that way. The trooper was so pissed beyond belief. So I continued to drive around w/ it still MSP blue for another 3 months, no trooper ever bothered me again. Then I get a phone call from a MSP friend saying I was on the "hit list" and to look out - I might get hurt.


Good Lord, I have never heard such a load of crap before. What color is the sky in your world?



Posted by: mtc

With the exception of the paint job, which is YOUR responsibility, isn't it???? This vehicle would make a wonderful CAB !!!
Which, unless you are a pathetic waaannnnnaaaabbbbbbeeeeee...... no self respecting civilian would purchase AND drive!


Posted by: cmpsa

94C, Wolfman & MTC:

Thanks the negative coments. Since you guys are soo smart, tell me why it it is wrong for anyone (civilian or any public safety agency) to purchase MSP cruisers then? My personal opinion focuses on the the way they are sold - not who what other government entity wishes to buy them.

I'm on your side of the fence. I'm not happy what I went through and not proud of it. I only posted my story to show how easy it is for anyone to buy a cruiser (like that e-bay one) and be a yahoo.

MA State surplus needs to sell off the old ones to someone. I've gone to one auction looking for a SUV. If your're so angry at former MSP cars being out there - then go to the State vehicles auction and protest then.


Posted by: Delta784

Unless you're going to use it as a taxi, or you don't like your friends very much, why would you purchase a vehicle with a prisoner cage installed??


Posted by: Curious EMT

Er, isnt there 1) a law saying the old MSP cars MUST be repainted BEFORE being sold at auction, and 2) they actualy have the buyer sign a waiver saying they must repaint before retitling? (Required within 7? days?).

I call his story complete BS! His lawyer would have found said laws within seconds, if he was worth his grain....
Opps, I assumed agian..

Trust me, I hate wackers just as much as the next, and who the F would want to drive around in a retired MSP car, 2-tone or not, they're retired for a reason! That kid is a nitwit for owning / driving / leasing out the car... but his story is BS....

EDIT: oops, i decided to waste more of my life and read the last paragraph... I still call


Posted by: DOD/272

I just read CMPSA's story 4 times and all I can say is WHAT THE HELL IS HE TRYING TO SAY? Maybe I am not drunk enough yet......



HAPPY NEW YEAR

BE SAFE


Posted by: cmpsa

OK.. The MA General Law that I didn't have I just found..

CHAPTER 266. CRIMES AGAINST PROPERTY
Chapter 266: Section 92A Motor vehicles; sale in certain condition; written disclosure on bill of sale; penalty

Section 92A. Whoever sells a motor vehicle knowing that its engine or electrical parts have been submerged in water, or knowing that it has been used as a police car, a taxicab, a rental vehicle by a motor vehicle rental agency, or a leased vehicle which has been leased to any corporation, individual or entity, other than a motor vehicle rental company, without indicating such fact in writing on the bill of sale, and whoever, other than the commonwealth or any political subdivision thereof, sells any such police car to an ultimate user for other than police purposes without first having obliterated all evidence of distinctive police insignias or markings thereon, and painting the exterior of every marked state police vehicle thereof one solid color, shall be punished by a fine of not less than ten nor more than five hundred dollars.

Curious EMT & ALL: Read the underlined part. MGL states that everyone (other than the Commonwealth and its political subdivisons) has to obliterate all markings and paint one solid color. SO Curious EMT -your wrong and I was correct. The state would have to pay for the repainting costs so the Commonwealth is exempt from repainting nothing! I went to the last auction in April '05 and MSP vehicles were all MSP blue. Whomever else (like the dealer who just bought it) is responsible for repainting the cruiser. This is what I was telling you all. The state sells the cars painted as is. If the dealer buys it, keeps it & registers it - under this MGL he's not selling it so it doesn't apply; he can drive around all day long. Now if he sells it to anyone, then the law states he (the dealer) is responsible for the costs of repainting it.

This is the same MGL law back to what I said in 2000. They haven't changed it.


Posted by: popo

Hey dickhead, let's see you spend about $1000 or less for the cruiser and another $3-5K for the lawyer for what, so you can say I am right and still be allowed to drive around in a 2 tone blue bird. You should have paid $300 the first week at MAACO and get a cheapo paintjob. When that trooper asked you from what barracks you were from that must have made you feel like a real man, he was f*cking with you because you are such an idiot. You sound like a loser and are a loser. Happy New Year Dork, now STFU and leave this site.

Quote:
I went to the last auction in April '05 and MSP vehicles
Stop going there and go to a dealership and buy a regular car, wannabe dork.


Posted by: j809

Hey are you that fat f*ck that's driving around in that old cruiser in the Leominster Area all the time with the felon driver because your license is revoked, fronting that you serve subpoenas and other papers. These two guys make up their own subpoenas and act like they are serving them when stopped by the PDs. All the PDs now and C-4 are aware of these two whackers.


Posted by: NorwichAlum

Quote:
Originally Posted by NorwichAlum
My question is why would you purchase a MSP vehicle and drive it around decked out like that in the first place?
Before you go though, I really would like you to answer my previous question which you conveniently did not respond to.

Why would you purchase a MSP vehicle and drive it around decked out like that in the first place?

Seriously, I am very curious about this.


Posted by: Wolfman

Bacause he's a friggin'


Personally, I can't imagine why ANYONE would buy a used cruiser - unless they have a thing for banged-up puke-encrusted rustbuckets with saggy seats, ripped upholstery, rubber floors, poor maintenance and even poorer fuel economy!


Posted by: tango2

Is this guy for real what a bull shit artist. He should sell the rights to his bull shit story to some comic strip.


Posted by: topcop14

Quote:
Originally Posted by NorwichAlum
Before you go though, I really would like you to answer my previous question which you conveniently did not respond to.

Why would you purchase a MSP vehicle and drive it around decked out like that in the first place?

Seriously, I am very curious about this.
Because he and his friends are the biggest wackers on the planet. This nut formed his own wacker agenacy.
Here is the web page www.cmpsa.org
He is such a nut he was canned from a certain central mass police dept after a very short stint as a reserve officer. Drives around in cars with disaster plates.
WACKER ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Posted by: bbelichick

"This cruiser was a deal at the Commonwealth of Massachusetts state vehicles auction they hold once a year. A 1993 cruiser w/ only 36,000 original miles. The MA State Trooper who drove this luckily worked doing administrative work and only used it mostly to & from commuting to work. The vehicle came off the auction block complete w/ MA State Police paint job, working wig wags, prisoner cage (as you can see), working spot light, Rhino Guard push bumper, amber fog lights and the original 800MHz radio system antenna (mounted on trunk). On a final note, imagine driving this around central MA, after you just bought it, and tally up the number of MA state troopers that wave to you on a daily basis."

Yikes.


Posted by: mpd61

Central Massachusetts Public Safety markings + RMV issued Official disaster vehicle plates=
WHACKOMATIC

It never ceases to amaze me what loopholes exist for these ego-fueled maniacs to present themselves as something they're not!



Posted by: j809



The new CMPSA Cruiser, awaiting Disaster Plates - just came from the Japan Indigeneous Self Defense Force.


Posted by: Mikey682

Someone must have stories about these bags showing up at incidents with their super-neato mobile classroom and ultra-neato cars..c'mon let em in! they wanna play too!

hey cmpsa, how many times have you pulled over girls with your "disaster vehicle" to try and get dates? Don't worry, someday it'll happen, pal....someday...


Posted by: Curious EMT

Can any MSP confirm or deny that any admin's would be issued a 2-tone if they're not doing any patrol?


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by topcop14
Because he and his friends are the biggest wackers on the planet. This nut formed his own wacker agenacy.
Here is the web page www.cmpsa.org
Wow.


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

Fellas, you really gotta click on the www.cmpsa.org link... really. An Explorer with push bars, radios, jetskis... etc. Wow. The central mass public safety, offering patrol services from "Chief" Mike Baril. I thought people who came on this site looking for info regarding what type of "takedown lights" would look best on their CV were f*cked, but this is an ENTIRELY different level. King Whacker award.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pvt. Cowboy
King Whacker award.
I second that. I had to look at the webpage twice, just to make sure it wasn't some type of elaborate hoax. If anyone remembers the REACT whackers, these CMPSA people just blow them away.


Posted by: topcop14

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
I second that. I had to look at the webpage twice, just to make sure it wasn't some type of elaborate hoax. If anyone remembers the REACT whackers, these CMPSA people just blow them away.
I also remember that this KING of the wackers once stopped and offered to back up an officer on a stop. That did not go over to well with the officer.

He offered his "Services" to my department for a major event we were having. He was promptly told to get lost.


Posted by: topcop14







Just thought everyone should make up there own mind.

So does he get the WACKER OF THE YEAR AWARD ?


Posted by: THE RP

Dear CMPSA....
It's time to get a life. You are not the police, you are not fire, you are not EMS, You are not welcome to join in with the fun because you are dangerous living in this pretend world....You are seriously mentally deficient to think that a day on your jet ski on some piss hole pond is "patrol"....Nice pictures though

You have a lawyer? Good because if you come near my route you are going for something and if it ain't criminal it will be a pink paper....

How about stopping this silliness and discovering girls or beer or even PS2..?

And then try getting a hug from mom and dad instead of each other, then take a deep breath, and admit to yourself that you are fucking MENTAL.... And all the money you are pissing away while you rub peanut butter all over one another listening to the scanner...Try spending it on Therapy..


Posted by: Delta784

What exactly are the criteria to get "Disaster Vehicle" plates? I've only seen them on Red Cross vehicles until now.

I hope you guys in Central Mass will take appropriate action the next time you see them running code to a road race or bike run. Two words come to mind: IMMEDIATE THREAT.


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

How did King Whacker get red light permits? I could be off base, but doesn't the Fire Chief have to issue a letter to the registry? Something has to be done about these freaks, because that is just exactly what these guys are, freaks. I guess as long as none of the local departments are willing to "entertain" these freaks, then eventually they'll realize that they are nobody, with no power, no life, and wasted a lot of money on light bars and sirens.

RP, maybe it was a little too much PS2... In Vice City and San Andreas you can steal police cars and fire trucks, then go around stopping crime and putting out fires. Next, Mr. Whacker will be car jacking people and doing drive-by's.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pvt. Cowboy
How did King Whacker get red light permits?
I think any vehicle with the red Disaster Vehicle (which is entirely appropriate here....what a disaster) plates are exempt.


Posted by: j809

CENTRAL MASSACHUSETTS PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCY HELPS OUT MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE PATROLS

NOTE: LOOK AT THE WORDS "DISASTER VEHICLE" THEY WERE BLOCKED OFF WITH A US FLAG DECAL SO IT ONLY SHOWS THE PLATE AS MASSASCHUSETTS EMERGENCY.


Posted by: Sniper

Yikes.................




Posted by: Delta784

My favorite.....think this kid gets the crap kicked out him at school?




Posted by: Wiggum_1

I went on the cmpsa website and only have one question, what the hell do they exactly do ?

Also, when I clicked on the link to the pictures of the old "ER1", I remember always seeing it parked in the mall thats across the Natick Mall, in front of the X-mas Tree Shops and saying who the hell are they. In the picture of their new ski-doo, oh excuse me, "Watercraft 1" ( ER 1, Watercraft 1 ? Do they think they're the "Thunderbirds" or something ???) it has a picture of the "Chief". I tell ya' he instills a lot of confidance in me .


Posted by: CJIS

What the hell is that!?! Please someone tell me this is a joke that was edited in Photoshop!


Posted by: THE RP

COOOOOOL...Taurus Dude !...Bitchen fire colors....So let me get this straight. One of you is a fireman and one is a policeman...You have a marine unit consisting of a jet ski and many, many fine radios and a big charger, some rope of course (very nice)..Wonderful..And you do what with it all?


Posted by: bbelichick

I've seen top secret pictures of their newest vehicle, "Air Rescue 1". Check it out:


Posted by: topcop14

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbelichick
I've seen top secret pictures of their newest vehicle, "Air Rescue 1". Check it out:



Posted by: tarc

I don't know why you guys feel you have to make fun of them. They are a much needed agency. I would elaborate further, but I have to go mount my front and rear blue LEDs on my Ford Festiva. Tomorrow is Day 1 for me at the CMPSA Academy.


Posted by: RustyShackleford

Unfortunately for him, I just sent my lawyer to the patent office with this patch design:





Posted by: DOD/272

HERE IT IS THE FAMOUS MSP CROWN VIC..... yeah baby
and a link http://www.cmpsa.org/former_cv.htm




Posted by: Tackleberry

Back in the May/June time frame I was traveling on 95N back to Hanscom in my personal vehicle. I was in the far left lane and I passed that red Taurus at a pretty good speed (sorry troopers). I didn't even give it a second look. About a mile further down the road I looked in my rear view mirror and he was so far up my ass I couldn't even see his front end. I could see him with the radio mic in his hand talking on it. I kept with my speed for about another mile and I think that irritated him because he hit the Yelp for only a second. So I merged into the middle lane. I figured he might need to get some where, but not urgent enough to run code (I thought he was a fire chief at first). When he passed me I saw the public safety markings and then I thought some sort of campus cop, but why red lights?. Then the jerk pulled into the middle lane in front of me and slowed down. At this point I took a good look at this tags, and realized what they where even with the U.S. flag over it because the Hanscom Civil Air Patrol has Search and Rescue cruisers have them. I merged back into the left lane to pass him and what do you know the jerk put on his right turn signal and cuts out in front of me. So I went back into the middle lane and guess what he fallows me. At this point I was getting really pissed off. Then out of no where a black unmarked MBTA Expedition past me on the right and squeezed in between the two of us. I pulled back into the left lane and past him with no problem. Guess who wasn't playing cat and mouse anymore. You got it the red Taurus.


Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

cmpsa,

I think there is a great lesson learned here. Before you post quirky little anecdotes about your wanna-be profession on a police message board, read some of the posts first and figure out that you are begging to be slammed! No one was going to get a little knee-slapping chuckle out of it.

I'd be interested in hearing from officers that have "worked" with these guys. Is there anyone from the central MA area that can comment?


Posted by: RustyShackleford

How about this guy?? (I think he forgot to get his pants hemmed)


One of our active CMPSA members, George Reno, proudly displays his Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor as he volunteers his personal time. Mr. Reno was assigned "Emergency Response 3 (ER3)" performing public safety patrol around the bike route - which travels through four towns (Sturbridge, Brimfield, Warren & Brookfield).




Posted by: DOD/272

I think these guys should be armed and dangerous. I am sure some of them are carrying throw aways.




Posted by: RustyShackleford

Michigan State Police taking the CMPSA Taurus through its paces.




Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOD/272
I think these guys should be armed and dangerous. I am sure some of them are carrying throw aways.
Wow. WOW! Now THERE'S a handsome looking bunch!

(*OMG, remind me never to drive through central Mass alone again and to roll up all the windows and lock the doors*)


Posted by: Tackleberry

Ok, now I'm confused. Well, no wait..... I was alway confused. Now I'm more confused. So the Crown Vic ER3 is a personal vehicle. How did he get a red/blue light permit for that? ER1 the Explorer has only Blue lights in the rear. I've seen the permits for CAP. Lights must be red up front with majority red in the rear but are allowed blue complimenting lights.

And for the group photo who are the guys in orange, Auxiliaries or some sort of undercover task force? It's obvious that the one in the green jacket and Police hat is a actually Police officer that volunteers his off time to work with this squared away group. And finally the 2 guys in dark blue shirts and the guy in the white shirt. They must be the self designated brass. The reason why theses guys are so popular and high speed. Hooah!....... Lead by example.


Posted by: THE RP

This is getting more and more painful..

I just want to let the folks at this prestigious organization that one of these days they are going to pass themselves off to the wrong person and get themselves into a world of hurt...Playing chicken on the highway can end in lots of bad things, wearing a police hat and traffic coat into a seven eleven while a robbery is going down also promises to have terrible consequences...You do not have the knowledge nor the sworn power to enforce laws any more than any other civilian. It is very dangerous and shows me that some of you may have deep seated mental problems that might make it more dangerous than that. If you interject yourselves into things you are not qualified nor prepared to deal with you will be doing more harm than good....Are there bed wetters in your ranks? Were you all beat up and pushed around by the other kids?..Its Ok we understand...We are here for you and we will help you.

Please let us help you get to the bottom of your issues so you can get on with being normal productive members of society and you can stop buying all these things that you will never have any use for...Come on now, we know you are out there, open up to us and tell us what has driven you to this...


Posted by: DOD/272

Does anymore need to be said...


Posted by: quality617

Speechless.

Totally, and utterly speechless.

Apparently, I just don't get out of the city enough.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOD/272
I think these guys should be armed and dangerous. I am sure some of them are carrying throw aways.
I want to know the significance of the white uniform shirt, dark blue uniform shirt, light blue uniform shirt, and orange t-shirt. Do camo BDU pants make the orange t-shirt any more prestigious?

I really think the RMV needs to re-think their decision to issue these whack jobs red plates.


Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOD/272
Does anymore need to be said...
No, no, no, no, you got it wrong! The last two guys on the right are undercovers... can't you tell by the layering over their orange t-shirts?!? The one on the left is really saying, "I am the least obvious wacker because I can also pass for a convicted felon or a creepy guy you wouldn't want to sit next to on the bus," and the one on the right is the dude that by day goes into high schools posing as a student to get information on gangs, drugs, and a date for the prom and by night gets refused into nightclubs by bouncers. All the other guys are envious of his cool sense of style and ability to keep up with the hottest trends in men's couture.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
CENTRAL MASSACHUSETTS PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCY HELPS OUT MASSACHUSETTS STATE POLICE PATROLS

NOTE: LOOK AT THE WORDS "DISASTER VEHICLE" THEY WERE BLOCKED OFF WITH A US FLAG DECAL SO IT ONLY SHOWS THE PLATE AS MASSASCHUSETTS EMERGENCY.
Note to Central Mass PD's.....I believe this qualifies as an "obstructed license plate", under 90-6, am I correct?


Posted by: futureMSP

At least we know that everyone who fails all those law enforcement tests can still get a job; or would they call this a career?? All those people that got beat up and picked on in high school....yup, thats them....CMPSA!! whackers!!!

People never cease to amaze...


Posted by: NorwichAlum

This is great. Thanks for the entertainment cmpsa!




Posted by: Wolfman

RE: the group photo, NAMBLA comes to mind..."Come join 'round the campfire, boys, and bring your jar of Miracle Whip!"


Posted by: dcs2244

That is just his "stealth" site...here's the real one:

http://www.thunderbirdsonline.com/site/


Posted by: rg1283

As mentioned before besides a cab why would anyone want an ex-cruiser besides the use of a cab or for maybe a bonafide auxillary or campus police department? Point being one would have to be a dumb ass to drive an ex MSP cruiser on the road? If he had half a brain he would have had it towed back to CMPSA World HQ or a Body shop and atleast have the thing painted over to one color so it wouldn't look like an MSP cruiser.

All I have to say is wow, this is better then the Selectmen's Meeting.


Posted by: rg1283

It would be one thing if these guys were EMTs and or Communications Support Specialists. But lets be realistic here why do they need words Public Safety? Its quite obvious they are not sworn LEOs and if they are they can't be acting like one under CMPSA's capacity.


Posted by: phuzz01

Of course, you are all giving these guys exactly what they want...eleven pages of attention from real police officers...


Posted by: Curious EMT

Quote:
Originally Posted by rg1283
As mentioned before besides a cab why would anyone want an ex-cruiser besides the use of a cab or for maybe a bonafide auxillary or campus police department? Point being one would have to be a dumb ass to drive an ex MSP cruiser on the road? If he had half a brain he would have had it towed back to CMPSA World HQ or a Body shop and atleast have the thing painted over to one color so it wouldn't look like an MSP cruiser.

All I have to say is wow, this is better then the Selectmen's Meeting.
They did have it painted, and it was totaled in an accident 7 years ago, according to their website.
http://www.cmpsa.org/former_cv.htm
I quote their website "On a final note, imagine driving this around central MA, after you just bought it, and tally up the number of MA state troopers that wave to you on a daily basis." WOOOOOO HE WAVED!!!!! Excuese me one moment, is there a bathroom around?

Did you notice they have an 'emergency only' number? Oh i cant wait till I'm working another mid


Posted by: USMCTrooper

Everyone...I have just one word about what you've see on this thread


Wait.


Posted by: quality617

What sickens me the most is that our department has been trying for years to get the authority to use blue lights (you know, Police Officers, with Blue Lights....go figure) while "citizens" like these run around all sparked out free as you please.

Want to do search and rescue? Bless you, but leave the friggin trucks at home till your called. You don't need to "patrol" and "assess the situation".

I love the Salvation Army and what they do, but I would feel the same way if their canteen truck with the disaster plates started "patroling" around the state.


Posted by: Rock

What a kick in the back side!!!! I wish I knew about this organization 6 months ago! Who needs 25 weeks at "camp hell" when I could have joined the CMSPA!


Posted by: mopar6972

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
My favorite.....think this kid gets the crap kicked out him at school?

I think this kid was in a CPR class I taught.... OOPS


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCTrooper
Everyone...I have just one word about what you've see on this thread


Wait.
The suspense is killing me.......


Posted by: tarc

Well I just got home from Day 1 at the CMSPA. It was rough. The classroom portion of the academy is a real killer. Today, mind you this Day 1, we were taught (and expected) to not get our DNA all over the front seat of our cruiser upon pulling up to an accident scene. They drilled into our heads that other public safety officers use the cruisers after us. Tough stuff, or as our motto goes: "who needs the SPA, when you got the CMSPA."


Posted by: Sgt Jack

This thread has been hilarious so far....Does anyone know where do these self appointed yahoos get the funding to buy all their toys??? Are they getting FEMA money or are they paying out of pocket I wonder?


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
The suspense is killing me.......
Yeah c'mon USMCTrooper, let the cat outta the bag... OR send me a PM...
Notice how CMPSA doesn't post here anymore... maybe he decided he should start taking his meds...

Hey, I know what this reminds me of!!!



Posted by: Clouseau

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmpsa
Story Time...
I was accidentally speeding (truth) and I got pulled over of an MSP radar trap. The trooper asked what barracks I work out of. I tell him that I'm not a PO. He got irate wondering where I got this nice car ..
It' ok MCTrooper. Even the pros are fooled once in a while.
It must have been tuff apologizing though....


Posted by: Clouseau

After reading some of the posts on this thread, I am contemplating on terminating my membership.

The behavior by some of the veteran members of this site is appalling. Picking on the handicapped? What is your limit?


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

My picture didn't show up from my previous post... click on the link...

CMPSA's finest...
http://www.geocities.com/wescraven_us/salute.gif


Posted by: mopar6972

III. PHONE
(50 278 - 3477 Office

(50 278 - 3477 Option 1 CMPS Team Activation - Emergencies Only !

Emergency Criteria:
WTF....


Posted by: Curious EMT

Im working mids tonight.

On my agenda: Test response time of CMPS activation!


Posted by: Sniper

Call in a water rescue and see how long it takes them to "launch" their ski-doo..........


Posted by: RPD931

Anyone have the website for these bozo's? CMPSA


Posted by: Skiierxxx06

Quote:
Originally Posted by RPD931
Anyone have the website for these bozo's? CMPSA
http://www.cmpsa.org

What a bunch of yahoos my god, kind of all look like family


Posted by: Wolfman

0300AM: "Help! We need backup, one of our patrols just stumbled across an impromptu bicycle race!"


Posted by: THE RP

Unbelievable options they have for selection...I wonder what the differences are?
I don't know about you guys but If the shit was hitting the fan those options are clearly far too ambiguous for quick decision making, maybe they should streamline them a little..Lets say

OPTION 1 you get nerds in orange without a clue.
OPTION 2 you get nerds who are in the way.
OPTION 3 you get nerds passing themselves off as cops and fireman.
OPTION 4 you get nerds talking to eachother on a set of radios and nobody cares.
OPTION 5 you get nerds with sticky car seats and lots of Kleenex in their pockets.
OPTION 6 you get a nerd with a camera taking pictures of themselves to use while making the car seats sticky and use the Kleenex.
OPTION 7 you get the creepiest nerd of the day so you can get his picture into an array for an ID in a farm animal abduction case you are working.

Might be a little easier during the big one...ROCK ON CMPSA!!!


Posted by: fscpd907

At approximately 2330 on this date, I observed an older model black Ford F150 parked in the rear section of the State Street Lot. I then observed a white male subject standing near the passenger side window talking on a cell phone. The male party stated that he had accidentally locked himself out of the vehicle and may require a “jump start” due to a malfunctioning battery.

I immediately contacted Dispatch and requested a full response from the Central Massachusetts Public Safety Association (CMPSA). At approximately 2350 hours, CMPSA Emergency Response 2 (ER2) arrived on scene and immediately evaluated the situation. ER2 requested Emergency Response 1 (ER1) respond with the Operations Command Unit. Once on scene, ER1 established command and requested Emergency Response 3 (ER3) divert and handle any "internal event" emergencies, including medical calls. It should be noted that while patrolling the area, ER3 encouraged motor vehicle traffic to slow down.

After several hours command was terminated due to numerous unsuccessful attempts to gain entry to the above stated vehicle. During the incident all members of the CMPSA acted like true professionals and I was extremely proud to have done my small part to assist.


Posted by: mopar6972

Strong work FSCPD907.. See how TRUE professional agencies work together when called upon? Im sending in my personal and agency membership to CMPSA immediately!


Posted by: BufordTJustice

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pvt. Cowboy
How did King Whacker get red light permits? I could be off base, but doesn't the Fire Chief have to issue a letter to the registry? Something has to be done about these freaks, because that is just exactly what these guys are, freaks. I guess as long as none of the local departments are willing to "entertain" these freaks, then eventually they'll realize that they are nobody, with no power, no life, and wasted a lot of money on light bars and sirens.

RP, maybe it was a little too much PS2... In Vice City and San Andreas you can steal police cars and fire trucks, then go around stopping crime and putting out fires. Next, Mr. Whacker will be car jacking people and doing drive-by's.
There are also blue lights in the back of that SUV, no way they could have a permit for those....


Posted by: BufordTJustice

WTF....See, this is what happens when brother marries sister and they have offspring.........


Posted by: quality617

Disaster vehicles are regulated by 90-7i. CMPSA is a registered non-profit orginazation, and in its articles filed with the secretary of state, describe its functions.

http://corp.sec.state.ma.us/corp/cor...earchinput.asp

Type in the president of CMPSA, Michael Baril and search. He comes up under a few corporations. Select CMPSA, scroll down, and view "All Filings", then read the amended articles.

NOWHERE in 90-7i nor in these amended articles does it mention "Dress up like the police and patrol the friggin bike route with my lights ablazing".


Posted by: RPD931

Sounds like an advanced Cub Scout organization. Look at this guy and his "various roles". The website still fails to say what the hell they actually do.. If I join, do I get a take home car?

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR / CHIEF: Michael J. Baril

CHIEF OF PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES: Michael J. Baril

FINANCE DEPT: DIRECTOR: Michael J. Baril

PUBLIC SAFETY PATROL DIVISION - '05 Watercraft Patrol: PATROL OFFICER: Michael J. Baril

And under the pic below they had this caption. This cruiser was a deal at the Commonwealth of Massachusetts state vehicles auction they hold once a year. A 1993 cruiser w/ only 36,000 original miles. The MA State Trooper who drove this luckily worked doing administrative work and only used it mostly to & from commuting to work. The vehicle came off the auction block complete w/ MA State Police paint job, working wig wags, prisoner cage (as you can see), working spot light, Rhino Guard push bumper, amber fog lights and the original 800MHz radio system antenna (mounted on trunk). On a final note, imagine driving this around central MA, after you just bought it, and tally up the number of MA state troopers that wave to you on a daily basis.


Even after they repainted the cruiser all of the equipment remained (including the cage).




Posted by: USMCTrooper

It seems the cat may be trying to wriggle out of the bag on his own. I need to keep him in a bit longer please. This thread is interesting and many of you are asking great questions. However, everyone:

active invest.

thanks.


Posted by: mopar6972

Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCTrooper
It seems the cat may be trying to wriggle out of the bag on his own. I need to keep him in a bit longer please. This thread is interesting and many of you are asking great questions. However, everyone:

active invest.

thanks.
When and if it is appropriate to fill us in, please do....


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

Then someone should shut'er down.


Posted by: Curious EMT

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pvt. Cowboy
Then someone should shut'er down.
"her" better be central mass yahoos, not this thread
I havent had this much fun since SecurityOffice was banned from GlockTalk.com!


Posted by: popo

Hey. check his KQ, outstanding.


Posted by: Curious EMT

Quote:
Originally Posted by popo
Hey. check his KQ, outstanding.
Why do I have a feeling when i run q's on him and his car im going to get 12 pages of recent queries? hehehe


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

Quote:
Originally Posted by popo
Hey. check his KQ, outstanding.
Ooooh, for those of us without access to a LEAPS/NCIC computer... do tell! Notice on his profile that his interests are "Dealing with stuck up/snobbish assholes here". His location is the MA state house, and his occupation is "Legislative procedings". I bet he lives in his mom's basement.

Loser.


Posted by: Gil

Ok stop running q's or stop posting that your running them. Mike called me today on my house phone and wanted to talk about this thread and having a post deleted. So please lighten up (ever so slightly) on em.



Mike (whoever the hell you are) DO NOT CALL MY HOUSE AGAIN!. Contact me via email! Like everyone else does! Don't expect a call back as I deleted and did not even listen to your complete message! Furthermore I see no message in here that needs deleting


Posted by: Pvt. Cowboy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gil
Mike called me today on my house phone and wanted to talk about this thread and having a post deleted.
Don't lie, he didn't call you to remove posts, he was asking you to voluteer to drive around and patrol with ER2... or ER1... or Watercraft1... ha...


Posted by: Gil

Ok you got me, actually I have my own ER69, either way we had some fun and this topic will amuse readers for months to come with that I am putting this one to rest. So Mike won't call my friigen house when I am SLEEPING!!!! not all of us work 9-5 Mike!




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