| Originally Posted by Cliff Does anyone here know what the payscales are for the NHSP? Also OT availability, length of shift, times of shifts (ex. 7-3, 3-11, 11-7), and rotation (I heard 6 on 3 off)? Also does anyone know anybody on the department and how do they like it? Thanks in advance. |
| Originally Posted by Mitpo62 leoinfl.....what, leave Florida? The sunshine, palm trees and warm sunny air? Say it isn't so! |
| Originally Posted by j809 Plus there are other benefits in NH No state income tax. No sales tax. NHSP has I believe a full non-contributory medical insurance plan Retirement includes OT & Details for final formula determination You can get up to 100% retirement, Cost of living cheaper I also heard that NHSP you don't put any money into the state retirement, no contributions on part of the officer. Is that true? |
but you can still find this type of deal in the 413 area code... | Originally Posted by jsc4324 not a problem, dont want to cause any problems. I have been told during the FTO period for SP you are required to reside at the barracks. is that still true. I know one of the troops does not require this at this point. I am interested in NHSP when my contract in southern NH expires and want to know all of the requirements before hand. I have also been told that if you own property in a troop jurisdiction, they make a reasonable attempt to keep you within the troop, as long as it works out. Any other info would be gratley appriciated. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari As far as living in NH I understand they jam you with real estate taxes, is this true? |
| Originally Posted by NH RSA 106-B:15 Jurisdiction of Police Employees. – Police employees have jurisdiction on all turnpikes, toll roads and interstate highways and nothing in this section shall be construed to limit the authority of local police officers. A police employee shall not act within the limits of a town having a population of more than 3,000 or of any city, except when he witnesses a crime, or is in pursuit of a law violator or suspected violator, or when in search of a person wanted for a crime committed outside its limits, or when in search of a witness of such crime, or when traveling through such town or city, or when acting as an agent of the director of motor vehicles enforcing rules pertaining to driver licenses, registrations and the inspection of motor vehicles, or when requested to act by an official of another law enforcement agency, or when ordered by the governor. No criminal case shall be abated, quashed, or dismissed and no evidence in a criminal case shall be suppressed or excluded because a police employee has failed to comply with the jurisdictional limits of this section, provided, that the police employee had a good faith belief that he had authority to act when he acted. |
| Originally Posted by OciferpeteHPD3500 2-Delta they do the written test first and if you pass 70 or more you are invited back at noon to take the PAT. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 I can't speak for other troops, especially in heavily populated areas like Manchester/Salem/seacoast. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari Are those areas still considered NH? I thought they emancipated them to Mass... |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 I certainly don't consider them to be part of NH. They have been taken over by all the massholes. |
| Originally Posted by Cliff Does anyone here know what the payscales are for the NHSP? Also OT availability, length of shift, times of shifts (ex. 7-3, 3-11, 11-7), and rotation (I heard 6 on 3 off)? Also does anyone know anybody on the department and how do they like it? Thanks in advance. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 I didn't see this back when it was originally posted. Payscales are listed on the website, and we just got a new contract. In fact, starting in July 2006, brand new probationary troopers will make over $40,000/yr. BASE salary, not including court, OT, or details. And $40,000 up here is like $80,000 down in Mass. (unless of course you live in the Salem area or on the seacoast, which I don't count as NH at all! more like a colony of MA!). Shifts are either 8.5 or 9 hours (usually 8.5, but each shift rotates through a period of 9 hr. shifts). You work six days on, three days off. The times vary by Troop, but my troop's dayshift is 0700-1530, and the evening shift is 1530-midnight. My troop doesn't have a midnight shift, so we get called out occasionally. Any troops with interstate patrols have full midnight shifts. Plenty of OT. If you don't mind standing in a construction zone all day, you can pretty much get one when you want (although less during the winter months). Evening and midnight shifts make a lot of court OT, because some troops (like mine) prosecute their own cases, and off-duty court gets you a 4 hour minimum. Callouts are also a 4 hour minimum. |
| Originally Posted by pmp I have a question for you phuzz01. I completed my oral board on Feb. 2nd for NH Probationary Trooper. I passed and my overall score was in the 70's. The Sgt. indicated I would be considerd for a background investigation and that my work experience may possibly help my candidacy for further consideration. However, its now March and I have not received any word concerning my status. Do you know what this potentially means? Am I still being considered? |
| Originally Posted by 48Weeks I wouldn't recommend the NHSP. They are squared away, but who wants to write speeding tickets and live on the highways for 8 hours. That would drive me insane. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 Well, given that less than 1/2 of NH troopers are assigned to the interstate, I wouldn't recommend anybody listening to you. |
| Originally Posted by djbfc pmp, when did you take the PAT and written test? someone stated that 75% are failing the PAT, did you see that with the group of people you took the test with? how many took the test with you? good luck in the rest of the process! -DJ |
| Originally Posted by pmp DJ, I took the PAT/written exam in Jan 06. Completed my oral board in Feb 06. A minimum of 70% in all portions is considered qualified. They average all those together and caculate an overall score for the candidate. I think my overall score is somewhere in the high 70s. I did call the Recruitment Unit and they indicated that a decision has not been made concerning background investigations from the Jan testing group. I do know from what the recruiting officer said during the testing process that there is 7 positions to be filled but may already be filled from those who tested in the Nov 05 testing group. |
| Originally Posted by pmp Sorry I just realized I didn't answer your question completely DJ. About 35-45 took the PAT with me in Jan. Then the written is conducted thereafter. I would say less than 20 candidates moved forward to the Oral Board Exam phase of the selection process. Many do fail the PAT due to the sit-ups or 1.5 mile run. |
| Originally Posted by djbfc Thanks for your reply PMP. Are the situps your basic locked hands behind the back and touch the knees with the elbows with someone holding your feet? Must be harder than I think due to the numbers that fail? Did all 35 of you run at the same time? ALSO, did they mention how often positions become available? Good luck rest of the way!! -DJ |
| Originally Posted by NHTrooper DJ, the situps are properly performed and counted with the hands cupped behind the ears, no neck pulling allowed and you must break the plane of your knees with your elbows. Another applicant holds your feet, hands on top of the feet / ankles (where laces tie) and you have a Trooper observing and counting. The run is usually in groups of five or six depending on the # of applicants making it to the run which is last. The bench press is 1st, pushups, situps, and run. Weather depending, you run outside or inside. You want to run outside as the inside track is dry and alot more "circles". Applicants fail due to the fact they do not train to pass the tests, you have the criteria long before the test knowing what you need to do to pass. If you cannot even pass the p.t. minimums, it is clear to see you have not taken the steps needed to get on the department, or any department for that matter! Positions become available as retirements, promotions, or other vacancies open. Our Gov. is pushing to have 7 positions added that were part of 14 cut by the previous Gov. I can tell you that groups are hired every three months to go to the academy if needed. The current class graduates the end of March. Good luck and remember, doing the bare minimum does little to make you stand out from other applicants who are motivated and want to get hired. |
| Originally Posted by djbfc pmp, Any word on your status, or where you are in the process with NHSP? -DJ |
There are politicians out there who are not pro-law enforcement and see this as an opportunity to cut money from the budget. 
This also hurts efforts to try and get additional Trooper positions funded thanks to a very supportive Governor, John Lynch, who was born and raised in Massachusetts. Testing is being held again in May, so don't delay! 'Nuff said........... There are politicians out there who are not pro-law enforcement and see this as an opportunity to cut money from the budget. This also hurts efforts to try and get additional Trooper positions funded thanks to a very supportive Governor, John Lynch, who was born and raised in Massachusetts. Testing is being held again in May, so don't delay! | Originally Posted by pmp DJ, I did not meet the "cut-off" score to proceed forward with the next phase in the process: the background investigation. A very competitive process indeed seeing that 7 slots are currently funded. Were you in the most recent selection process? Anyways, good luck to you. |
| Originally Posted by NHTrooper Just an update on the latest testing (March 25th), which was disappointing to say the least. 50+ scheduled to test, 28 showed and only 7 passed the pt and the written to move onto the oral boards. Lucky to get 1 or 2 from that. The 139th class graduated tonight with 4 Troopers and the next starts April 10th with 4 probationary Troopers attending. If anyone out there is qualified and can pass the testing, now is the time to apply. The positions will not be filled unless the applicant can meet the standards and the Colonel likes what he sees. Open positions are obviously bad for those of us covering more than one patrol and stretched too thin on the shift. There are politicians out there who are not pro-law enforcement and see this as an opportunity to cut money from the budget. This also hurts efforts to try and get additional Trooper positions funded thanks to a very supportive Governor, John Lynch, who was born and raised in Massachusetts. Testing is being held again in May, so don't delay! 'Nuff said........... |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 In the group of five that I was hired with, only one had prior law enforcement experience. So that is not a requirement. But they want people that are strong all around: written test, PAT, oral board, work experience/education, etc. The Colonel is not going to hire a marginal candidate just to fill a slot. And as NHTrooper said, some politicians see unfilled positions as an opportunity to cut the budget. So the challenge now is to find highly qualified candidates to fill our open positions. Because right now a lot of the troops are running pretty thin on coverage. Also, as to the question of what is messing the candidates up...it runs the board. Some candidates in this most recent round of testing didn't even make it through the door. They showed up with medical forms that were not signed by a doctor. Bye bye, get your paperwork properly filled out next time. Some failed the PAT, some failed the written. Some passed but dropped out prior to oral boards. You get the idea... |
| Originally Posted by 48Weeks I recommend that you test with Manchester PD or Nashua PD. They are better PD's than the State PD and you will do a lot more police work. Working for these departments you can hop on the highways and stop cars + do the fun stuff that city cops deal with (domestics, armed robberies, homicides etc.). |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 Hogwash. We do a lot more than stopping cars. Just in the past year, I have worked on two homicides, and I'm not talking about crime scene security either. I am talking about interviews, evidence collection, etc. I work approximately 20-25 domestics per year (only counting those that result in arrest), approximately 15-20 burglaries per year, 1st and 2nd degree assault cases, and yes, armed robberies. And these are as a ROAD trooper, not a detective. Manchester and Nashua are great agencies, and I also recommend that people test with them. But you clearly don't know much about SP except that you pass by them in the crossover sometimes. So stick with what you know something about. |
hahahahahahahaha | Originally Posted by phuzz01 Hogwash. We do a lot more than stopping cars. Just in the past year, I have worked on two homicides, and I'm not talking about crime scene security either. I am talking about interviews, evidence collection, etc. I work approximately 20-25 domestics per year (only counting those that result in arrest), approximately 15-20 burglaries per year, 1st and 2nd degree assault cases, and yes, armed robberies. And these are as a ROAD trooper, not a detective. Manchester and Nashua are great agencies, and I also recommend that people test with them. But you clearly don't know much about SP except that you pass by them in the crossover sometimes. So stick with what you know something about. |
| Originally Posted by 48Weeks Everyone has an opinion, and mine is that Manchester and Nashua PD's are much better than the NHSP. |
| Originally Posted by NHTrooper Relative to the meeting on the 18th, a response from the state is pending and from the Colonel, he is looking to resolve this in the next two to three pay periods ( by June 1). As far as starting pay for an applicant with 10 years experience, you would be for the pay raise after completing the probationary 1st year. As of July 1, 2006, if you were to be hired with 10 years from anther PD, you would bump up to $43,704 instead of $40,158 and this is without a change in the pay scales as a result of a new contract for 2007-2008. You can also buy your prior time to contribute to the twenty year retirement at 45 years old. Sign up for the May testing as we have open positions we need to fill. As far as equipment goes, NHSP has also purchased 46 Dodge chargers for 2007 and we were just issued lights for the Sig duty carry pistol / M4 rifle mounts. Stay safe out there............ |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 And mine is that you don't know anything about the State Police. 20-25 domestics per month, eh? That would be more than one per night. Given the amount of paper work and court time associated with a domestic violence related arrest, excuse me for not thinking that handling more than one per night is all that much fun... Holy smokes, are you saying that ONE trooper left for another department?!? How are we going to deal with that insane rate of attrition?!? The entire agency is just going to crumble apart and move to Nashua! |
| Originally Posted by VSP Troop 48 Weeks, I suggest you seek immediate medical attention because obviously your head is jammed very far up your ass. |
| Originally Posted by MAScrew10 I met a NH Trooper at the Airport the other day and he tells me they are merging. I was going to apply to be a State Trooper but what would this merger do to me? Would I get laid off? I’m on a list in my local town and I received my card 1 week ago. |
| Originally Posted by airforce1 I am a cop in the city of Boston looking to make a career move possibly to NHSP or a city or town in/around Londonderry, NH where I am moving at the end of the month. I'm hoping someone could answer a question or two for me. 1. Salary of a top step trooper and how long it takes to get to top step? 2. Details/Overtime within the NHSP. Is there plenty to go around? Thanks. AF1 |
| Originally Posted by airforce1 NH Trooper, Yeah, I am a bit confused. So someone like myself with almost 6 years certified police officer in MA (will be 6 years in Oct) and 4 years military duty. (if military time counts toward anything). Where would my salary be and how long before I reach top pay? Also, would the chances be slim for me to be assigned to a barracks near Londonderry considering I just moved there? If the chances would be slim, would NHSP make me move closer to the barracks in which they assign me too? Also, in regards to health benefits. My 8 year old daughter has ongoing medical conditions and is required to be seen at Childrens Hospital in Boston. Would you know if NHSP health care allows for care out of state? Or would she have to change hospitals? Thanks for the help. I'm not about to change my families way of life if I dont have all the answers prior to making "the career move". The agency that I work for in Boston allows for out of state living so it's not like I HAVE to find another job. AF1 |
| Originally Posted by Cliff Does anyone here know what the payscales are for the NHSP? Also OT availability, length of shift, times of shifts (ex. 7-3, 3-11, 11-7), and rotation (I heard 6 on 3 off)? Also does anyone know anybody on the department and how do they like it? Thanks in advance. |
| Originally Posted by blackjack11j Nh State police a good job , they must have a web site |
| Originally Posted by MAScrew10 Quote: NHHP are NOT State Troopers. They are RMV cops. They were created to mess with the NHSP You could be right bbeIichick. I just found a second web site for them, http://www.myspace.com/highwaycop |
| Originally Posted by Cliff Does anyone here know what the payscales are for the NHSP? Also OT availability, length of shift, times of shifts (ex. 7-3, 3-11, 11-7), and rotation (I heard 6 on 3 off)? Also does anyone know anybody on the department and how do they like it? Thanks in advance. |
| Originally Posted by MAScrew10 [ Phuzz01. Any idea how many candidates will be at the July 29, 2006 testing? My friend told me there was only 25 at the last test. I also received a letter from the NH Highway Patrol. Apparently they do not have any openings. They did say they would hold onto my application. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 I don't know how many will be there this time around. Last test we had 50-some applications for the test, but only 20-some actually showed. As far as NHHP, I know someone who is starting with them on July 14. So I guess whether they have openings depends on what your definition of "openings" is. Or maybe what your definition of "is" is. |
| Originally Posted by pmp Are you aware of how many troopers the NHSP are looking to hire? What does the budget look like for this fiscal year? |
| Originally Posted by pmp I once applied and passed the oral board. Later, I received a letter explaining that my application will remain on file for future employment opportunities and will expire at the end of a 2-yr. period? What is this letter implying and why does the NHSP do this? Are applicants even considered in such a situation or is it just wise to re-apply for another next test date? Thanks. |
| Originally Posted by djbfc When retirement is calculated for NHSP it says it is based on the average of your top three years of earnings. Does this include detail work/ overtime pay etdc. as well as the pay grade you received those three years? Just wondering how that works...... |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 Yes, they average your highest three years gross pay as it appears on your W-2. This includes all OT, court, details, etc. |
| Originally Posted by tazoez Jeez, that means I could pop $150,000 for 3 yrs and they would average that?????? |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 The academy runs three sessions per year. I've seen as few as zero go through. |
| Originally Posted by Inspector Actually there are sometimes 0 trooper recruits in an academy class. All law officers, local, county, fish & game, and state go through the same academy as classmates. The academy runs 3 classes per year. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 We are always looking to fill open positions. When I was hired, out the group of five, two guys were 37, two guys were 34, and then there was me. |
| Originally Posted by TC66 I will plan on taking the next exam,,wife will think i'm nuts as the pay is like 25k less starting than what i make now..but hey..it's what i f'n want to do..nothing else. |
| Originally Posted by Inspector NH PAT is Cooper based. Pass or fail....no points for extra as Cooper has age built into formula (it's on NHSP website) Actually experience, common sense and maturity are key considerations which show up during oral interviews. |
| Originally Posted by TC66 I wouldn't want to overtrain unnecessarily..LMAO... any info is appreciated. |
| Originally Posted by DJ_USMC_50 blow the competition if possible. |
| Originally Posted by DJ_USMC_50 blow the competition if possible. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 Plenty of details, not that much OT. In some troops, there is a lot of court OT. The oral board has both Q&A and scenarios, but I won't give any more specifics than that. How long it takes to switch troops depends on which troop you are switching from and switching to. You must live in your assigned troop. |
| Originally Posted by dave2886 Thanks for the info. Is the south-western troop hard to get? |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 All of the troops constantly fluctuate in terms of manpower. A year ago, Troop C (Keene) was at its lowest staffing in a long time. Then we got a bunch of trainees and are running pretty full right now. In another year, we will probably be running low again. You can never tell, as trainees get moved around, people retire, get injured, go into defectives...err, I mean detectives, transfers, etc. etc. |
| Originally Posted by dave2886 Okay, thanks. How many sworn troopers do you have, and how many detectives are there? Is that (detectives) a pretty good gig? If I do end up staying with my current agency, one of my goals is to be a detective, so if I came up there, I imagine I'd probably want to to that as well, at some point, but I don't really know anything about their duties up there. Is it like NYSP's BCI? Thanks again for the info. |
| Originally Posted by j809 Do they have troopers that are assigned full-time to crash reconstruction like MSP? |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 There are just under 300 sworn troopers. Each Troop has two detectives that do sex assaults, robberies, etc. etc. Then, at headquarters, there is a squad of narcotics detectives, a squad of major crime detectives (homicide), and a squad of special investigations detectives. In all, there may be 50 total. As of our last contract, the detectives get a two labor grade pay increase above road troopers of the same rank. We have the TAR team (technical accident reconstruction), but it is not a full-time assignment. They work a regular patrol assignment, and then get called when needed. They train a few times per month. |
| Originally Posted by phuzz01 You must live in your assigned troop. |
| Originally Posted by MM1799 ...And you complain about stopping for DMVs on your commute home? Ridiculous. |
| Originally Posted by dave2886 Sorry, forgot to ask last time, how long does it typically take to get a specialized assignment, such as detective, k9, etc.? |
Here in Texas you can stop and arrest for traffic violations. It blew my mind coming from Indiana. I love the laws down here but the mosquitos, oppresive heat and humidity, and lack of snow are driving me nuts.