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Posted by: Gil

Is ANY department out there running a 7PM to 3AM shift?

If so are there any issues or problems caused by this shift?

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Posted by: michaelbos

The VA Police uses that schedule, 7A-3P 3P-11P 11P-7A No problems to speak of.

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Posted by: RPD931

Michaelbos.. he's looking for 7p to 3a (not 7a to 3p). Interesting Shift though. We run a 6p to 2a.

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Posted by: KozmoKramer

I cant speak specifically to a police perspective, but my wife (an RN in the SICU) worked (2) 3p's to 7:30am. every week.

Did that for a year. It's a killer. Your either working, sleeping, or feeling like shit because you cant get enough sleep. I would guess for those of you without children at home (over first grade age) could probably swing it, but if you have distractions or if your responsible for the kids during the day, its hard to be obligated to doing a "double" twice a week. It was also a bitch to find people to fill in when you need an unscheduled day off. An 8 is easier to fill than 16. (Unless of course you have overtime hungry employees and OT is authorized.) For hospitals OT is up the you-know-what, but I know a lot of PD's dont authorize a load of it for budgetary reasons...

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Posted by: mikemac64

I currently work 6-2. It isn't bad except for when you have to get up in the AM (detail, WNEC, etc). Otherwise I like it. I think 7p-3a would be over the top.

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Posted by: KozmoKramer

Never mind my last post G., I read it too quickly. I thought you were asking about 7a - 3a. (16's)
Brain-clog.

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Posted by: Crvtte65

NU had them but switched to 8p-4a. Seems to work well for added officers during bar break etc.

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Posted by: HOTLUNCH

Let me ask this; if you work past midnight on your last one do you get overtime because you're technically into your weekend? To clarify, for example; you are working Tuesday through Saturday 1800x0200 or 1900x0300 and on saturday night, once you go past 0000 are you on OT? It is a bone of contention here on my job and no one seems to have the right answer. Some say its a contract thing, some say its an FLSA thing.

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Posted by: msw

Worked 7 PM - 3 AM shift many years ago, at a very busy inner city, gang infested, location. It was considered an "overlap" shift, meant to augment (not replace) the regular shifts during what was perceived to be the most busy portion of the day (night, actually). It was one of the most popular, sought after shifts for the young, aggressive guys. It tended to be busier (overall) than the other shifts, more action, and you more often than not made a late arrest toward the end of the shift.... which meant overtime for booking the guy, writing the report, etc. Sometimes, with a late arrest with multiple suspects, lots of evidence to book, complex/long report to write, you could manage 5 hours of overtime from 3 AM right up till 8 AM ....... which was when you likely had a subpoena to be in court, meaning Overtime straight through from the end of the shift at 0300 hrs all the way through the end of your court time. Made for some good paychecks.

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Posted by: USMCMP5811

Gil,

I know Franklin has a shift like that, although I'm not sure if it ia a 7pm to 3am or a 6pm to 2am. It might also be a 5pm to 1am. I'll see if I can find out for you.

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Posted by: USMCMP5811

Gil, just found out Franklin has a 5pm to 1am shift. I thought it was a 7pm to 3am

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Posted by: LA Copper

We used to have an 1800 - 0245 shift. All the go getters (myself included) used to love that shift. As was mentioned earlier, it was always the busiest shift and you could almost always count on some overtime if you wanted it, especially on weekends. Those were the prime hours for the gangsters to come out and play which was just fine with us.

Now we're working a 3 /12 schedule so our hours have changed. They are now 1900 - 0745, kinda too long I think.

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Posted by: chowder

We have a 7pm to 3am car in N. Adams not so much a shift. The regualar shifts are 4 - Mid , and Mid - 8am. But one person has a 7 - 3am shift and works as a call car.

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Posted by: topcop14

My department has had both 6-2 and 7-3, But that shift went the way of the 3-11 detective. Gone do to staffing.


People leave but are never replaced. A while back the union complained and the town administrator, who said you are fully staffed. Union president showed him a department photo that showed how many officers we had. town dick head said we didn't know what we were talking about. We have 3 less then we had 10 years ago. In addition to that we now have an LT and a SRO "School Retarded Officer" So we are really short 5.

Sorry for the off topic rant ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! ! ! ! !

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Posted by: USMCMP5811

Gil,

Franklin is actualy a 5pm to 1am, however our K-9 is a 7pm to 3am. although he is the only one and on a 4 and 2. good for coverage durring the 3-11, 11-7 change over.

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Posted by: michaelbos

Sorry about that Chief

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Posted by: sempergumby

Bellingham has an impact shift for K-9 only 7p to 3 a but k-9 goes home 1 hour early.it part of the contract. travell time and taking care of the dog. ( what a gig )

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Posted by: frapmpd24

I have seen departments that normally run an eight hour shift schedule, add in a 7pm - 3am or 6pm - 2am shift for one officer to provide additional coverage between evenings and midnights. Very workable in a smaller town where it adds an extra officer during the normally active times for domestics, OUI's, and those type of calls. Having said that, I the effectiveness of the time slot would vary depending on call volume/types of calls for the specific agency.

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Posted by: csauce777

In the metropolis of Plympton we are 7a-3p, 3-11, 11-7 and when the money is there, we have an impact shift 1900-0300 on Fridays and Saturdays.

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Posted by: Gil

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Originally Posted by csauce777 In the metropolis of Plympton we are 7a-3p, 3-11, 11-7 and when the money is there, we have an impact shift 1900-0300 on Fridays and Saturdays.

Plympton runs three shifts? J/k How are Brenner & Pinnetti doing? Tell them I said hi and tell Pinnetti to call me, I need some more of those stuffed peppers. Probably the only thing I miss about the Plymouth academy was those peppers.

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Posted by: ratwatcher

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Originally Posted by USMCMP5811 Gil, just found out Franklin has a 5pm to 1am shift. I thought it was a 7pm to 3am

OUR DEPARTMENT HAS THE 7-3, 3-11 AND 11-7AM TOURS. WE ALSO HAVE A 6PM-2-AM COVERAGE TOUR TO OVERLAP THE 11PM CHANGE OVER... WORKS OUT FINE AND GIVES YOU AN EXTRA HOUR IN THE TAVERN WHEN YOUR GETTING OUT!

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Posted by: VSP Troop

Our evening shift is 5pm-2am

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Posted by: sempergumby

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Originally Posted by sempergumby Bellingham has an impact shift for K-9 only 7p to 3 a but k-9 goes home 1 hour early.it part of the contract. travell time and taking care of the dog. ( what a gig )

Wait now we only have 7-3 3-11 11-7 . no more k-9 impact shift not enough men anymore.

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Posted by: jettsixx

I work in a small town department and on the weekends we run a 6pm to 2am shift usually a part time officer the other shifts are the typical 7-3 3-11 11-7 I think it works out pretty well

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Posted by: RPD931

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Originally Posted by EMcNeice Our evening shift is 5pm-2am

A 9 hour shift?

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Posted by: futureMSP

In Vermont the evening shift is 1700-0200; From 0200 until 0700 there are no Troops actively patroling. From 0200 until 0430 the night shift guy is on call and from 0430 until 0700 he day shift man is on call. We are compensated for being on call and get 4 hours of OT when called out. I can't say we are in the best of moods when we are awoken because some moron heard a noise and thinks people are breaking into their trailer. What they don't realize is their trailer is falling apart and it is caving in on itself, that is the noise.

A little pent up anger from the other night...

On to the subject of the Thread; My buddy in MA works 1800-0200 and loves it. All he does is back others on calls and does proactive patrol. He doesn't need to do a lot of paperwork.

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Posted by: FRPDConstable

I worked a 7-3 shift 4 years ago when i was a summer officer. It was good because if you got crap at 2AM when the bars closed you could have time to book and do the report. During the week when the bars shut down at one it dragged out but it was a great shift on weekends cause u had time to finesh stuff that happend when the bars got out

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Posted by: laxball33

The gang unit guys in my department work the 7-3 shift, other than that we're all on the standard 12-8, 8-4, etc....
Just my opinion but I wouldn't want to be on that shift, you basically lose your night and any ability to do anything when you get off shift.

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Posted by: RPD931

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I can't say we are in the best of moods when we are awoken because some moron heard a noise and thinks people are breaking into their trailer. What they don't realize is their trailer is falling apart and it is caving in on itself, that is the noise. A little pent up anger from the other night...

Nice!! I dealt with the SAME thing 1 night at 3am. "Report of metal banging noise", only to find it was the door swinging back and forth on a piece of shit trailer, a 53' freight trailer converted to a makeshift storage shed... the shit people have.

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Posted by: CBayer222

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Originally Posted by Gil Is ANY department out there running a 7PM to 3AM shift? If so are there any issues or problems caused by this shift?

I know Barnstable PD has the shift. I heard its mainly to have an extra guy at the highly busy time and it saves the Evening guys from "Last call". I think the K-9's are swing shifts too. But Im not sure.

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Posted by: DoD102

Used to work thar shift as a foot patrol when on Nantucket PD back in the 80's. Montague PD usd to have it also. Foot patrol on Main St for the bars. Haven't heard of it in a while tho.

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Posted by: DoD102

Used to have a 7-3 foot patrol on Nantucket in the 80's. I loved it because it included the docks and bar area.

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Posted by: Gil

Looks like it may finally happen!! Two 6PM to 2AM slots are in the works. I'm gonna miss mids....NOT!

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Posted by: Mongo

Depends on location,activity,size of department,

Same as anything else you will have some that like it, some that aren't sure they like it, and some that are never happy and don't like anything you do to change.

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Posted by: O-302

Found this story in the Stamford (Connecticut) Advocate. Their current Chief (Brent Larrabee) is the former Chief of Framingham, Mass.


http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news...,7670318.story

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Posted by: tuffone

Somerset has 1a-9a, 9a-5p, 5p-1a shifts with an overlap shift at each change.

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Posted by: Zuke

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Originally Posted by tuffone Somerset has 1a-9a, 9a-5p, 5p-1a shifts with an overlap shift at each change.

If I recall correctly (its been a few years) thats how Taunton PS runs its show.

A lot of 12 hour departments use the 7am-7pm, 7pm-7am and a 2pm to 2am shift.

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Posted by: Gil

Just an update....

The 6PM to 2AM shift SUCKS!!!!

I can't seem to get to bed before 5AM even when I do get out at 2 and that has only happened a few times. They are counting us towards minimum manning (on the 4-12 shift) so that is another issue that blows. I have rode the pine more on this shift than any other shift I have worked.

I am definitely going back to my 11-7 shift in January.

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Posted by: mtc

We have C.A.T. team guys that work 6P-2A - some of them get home by 2:30, some of them are still out there banging away at 4.... usually the same offenders.

And then some just seem to never go home......

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Posted by: Mitpo62

That "swing" shift was talked about here but the union put the kabash to that. Seems the chief wanted a little more than "extra coverage." Real slick..........

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Posted by: jyanis

In Douglas we have a 7P-3A shift. It is an overlap shift and as far as I know, there are not issues with it.

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Posted by: paulathers

In the UK we work 6pm - 2am / 7pm - 3am / 8pm - 4am and the killer 6pm - 4am shifts - all these are designed to deal purely with our binge drinking problem - it is used solely to deal with drunken youths/fights/anti social behaviour - anyone fancy a holiday!!

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Posted by: csauce777

We have a 6pm-2am on Friday and Saturday nights...

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Posted by: coppah914

I work the 7x3 shift and enjoy it. Get home with decent sleep and a good amount of time to get things done during the day. However, it is a pain in the ass if your looking to work overtime/details, the 4 hour intervals can be a problem. My agency is pretty good with letting you work another shift in lieu of the 7x3 so open shifts can be filled and you get your overtime. Another plus is that on the busy nights the supervisors usually dont have a problem with you staying till 7am for extra coverage and another 4 hours of OT. It has its + and - but overall, I like the shift alot.

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Posted by: andy0921

Coppah, What time do you usually get up in the a.m.?

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Posted by: coppah914

I wake up between 10 and 1030 for 3 days then usually sleep in on day 4 so i'm up early and well rested for my days off.

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Posted by: Todd

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Originally Posted by sarge439 Used to work thar shift as a foot patrol when on Nantucket PD back in the 80's. Montague PD usd to have it also. Foot patrol on Main St for the bars. Haven't heard of it in a while tho.

We still do. I started as a reserve for Montague several months ago. There are a couple 7pm-3am shifts on the weekend. I prefer it over the 11pm-7am shift.

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Posted by: Danman

nantucket has a 7p to 3a shift during the summers

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Posted by: SPINMASS

I have worked the 6p-2a power shift, as long as you don't mind humping it, going call to call it is a great shift.

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Posted by: radio2526

haha yeah those are always interesting

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Posted by: Danman

walpole has a 12a-7a

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Posted by: kmorrissey5

oxford has a 7p-3a shift friday and saturday.

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Posted by: Danman

sounds like a fun shit alot of action if u ask me

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Posted by: kmorrissey5

ohh...tons of it...

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Posted by: mattymatt6903

pretty sure Providence, RI Police have a 7PM-3AM it's called midshift, basically its to ensure that they have cars on the road during shift change due to it being a good sized city

hope that helps

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Posted by: Mitpo62

I think coming off of mids to work a split shift like that would interrupt my current sleeping pattern......

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Posted by: blacknblue

Wellsley has it also

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