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| Originally Posted by mpd61 Good point J809!!!!!! I got 94 and have DVET status, anybody hazard a guess as to my chances in my hometown with residency preference? |
MPD61,| Originally Posted by j809 He won't have to run, he's going to Plymouth Academy. |
All you guys should be happy with your scores, i got a really low 81!! The question is, do they include points for turning in your DD214? Or do they add those points later. Anyone know? Thanks 
| Originally Posted by sparagmos Hey there everyone, Rookie here!! All you guys should be happy with your scores, i got a really low 81!! The question is, do they include points for turning in your DD214? Or do they add those points later. Anyone know? Thanks |
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| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican You do not get extra points in the municipal civil service exam because you are a vet. You do get preference. State Police is the only exam I know of that gives vets an extra 2 points. |
| Originally Posted by john77 I did far worse than expected. 88 I truly have no idea how I did so poorly, I thought for sure I did much better. Oh well here's to another two years before the next test . |
| Originally Posted by sparagmos Hey! Thanks for the info. I just emailed the HRD to find out about the same question. They said that they give you preference if you have one when it comes to applying as a veteran. But anyways, so now what happens? Should i just give up hope of becoming a cop just because of a lousy score, or do you think that it all comes down to, if you get offered a position? I mean how does this thing go about? I know that there are tons of candidates out there who have scored quite well, and Congrats! to all you guys.. who got 90's and above! But do i have a chance at all? Thanks for answering to my questions in advance! |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 I can swear there is no way I missed 6 Questions (94 here). Is there any way to appeal/review the questions you missed? Anyone a Boston Resident? How did you do? Good luck all! |
| MassCops Captain Screw it, I got a low score too, I'm joining the CS to get Vet status. |
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. Even though the test doesn't matter for me I am still disappointed in my score. I thought the test was very easy to get 10 wrong. I guess I am just dumber than I was when I took the test last time. Good luck to all. Looks like most people did not do as well this time around. Don't give up hope until the lists come out and you see where you stand. Who knows a 90 might be good enough to get you an interview. 
| Originally Posted by Skidaddy I would agree, I hope your right. 85 (Thank god i'm a Vet) I know a couple of other guys that got in the 80's. |
But. I'll settle for my 95 with Vet, and resident prefferance. 
..... from Dracut, MA| Originally Posted by Macop HA, none of ya are getting on. Go non-Civil Circun where the ridiculous absolute preferences don't mean shit. MACOP, did you even pass? Oh Yimmy, I saw that, you must want to be violated. I passed with a whopping 82 |
| Originally Posted by john77 Just curious, most people did alot worse than anticipated, so is it possible there was an error in scoring? I know I may be grasping at straws here, but there does seem to be a trend here. |
| Originally Posted by john77 Just curious, most people did alot worse than anticipated, so is it possible there was an error in scoring? I know I may be grasping at straws here, but there does seem to be a trend here. |
| Originally Posted by mpd61 Good point J809!!!!!! I got 94 and have DVET status, anybody hazard a guess as to my chances in my hometown with residency preference? |
congrats. 93 here oh well maybe next time. Maybe I can patrol the Boston Harbor and get VET status. 
92. I too also thought I was in high 90's. Does anyone know if they included past police experience in the score yet????? 
| Originally Posted by wryman It all depends on what town you reside. Small town or big city? A 91 or 93 could be as good as a 100. I guess I have to wait till November! |
| Originally Posted by 40th MPOC#309 Special Congrats to MPD61! Looking forward to being under your wing on Mids in #209........The stuff I can lern...... |
| Originally Posted by Sgt Jack Got a 93....Thought I nailed it good this time WTF??? Couple of years back I was getting 95's and landing in the top ten on my towns list....I see that the money I spent on the Patrick Rogers exam prep class was well spent Hey Mpd61 Nice Avatar BTW |
| Originally Posted by Fozzy Anybody know for sure if the 'experience points' have been added into this score? 93 here... |
| Originally Posted by j809 Hey maybe you didn't do as bad as you think. These could be very high scores as I heard of alot lower marks. There was a civil service test a few years back where a 91 was very high as half the people did not pass. Just wait till the lists are established. Good luck! |
| Originally Posted by KindaConfused I just looked mine up. I got a 99. They should give you extra points for how well you do in what time frame you finished. I was done with the test in 25 min. I was kinda surprised by the ammount of people who took so long to do the test. It will be interesting to see if I can remember whatever question it turns out I got wrong. How do they expect you to contest something if you don't know the question? |
| I just looked mine up. I got a 99. They should give you extra points for how well you do in what time frame you finished. I was done with the test in 25 min. I was kinda surprised by the ammount of people who took so long to do the test. It will be interesting to see if I can remember whatever question it turns out I got wrong. How do they expect you to contest something if you don't know the question? |
| I just looked mine up. I got a 99. They should give you extra points for how well you do in what time frame you finished. I was done with the test in 25 min. I was kinda surprised by the ammount of people who took so long to do the test. It will be interesting to see if I can remember whatever question it turns out I got wrong. How do they expect you to contest something if you don't know the question? |
Dream on little cowboy.
| Originally Posted by srf13 You averaged 1 question every 15 seconds...? Ok. Good luck passing your drug screen after your offer of employment. [-o< |
| Originally Posted by kwflatbed Dream on little cowboy.KindaConfused I just looked mine up. I got a 99 |
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. | Originally Posted by john77 Not hard to believe someone got a 99, but it is kind of hard to believe you did so in 25 minutes. I did really well, of course this score is with my residency and my non-vet preferences added in .I can photoshop too . |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican I don't see why so many of you find Kindofconfused's claim so unbelieveable. The guy is obviously a Marine. Before we can graduate Bootcamp we have to be able to field strip our M16-A2 service rifle, recite the Marine Corps hymn, complete a 100 question CS exam while dodging incoming mortar rounds, in less than 10 minutes. If you ask me, Kindofconfused is a slacker. It should never have taken him 25 minutes to complete the exam.....what?...you don't believe me? I'm sure fellow Devil Dogs on this board will have no problem confirming what I've written. |
| Originally Posted by KindaConfused read all my posts. I already clarified my time refrence regarding taking the test. Feel free to keep beating a dead horse at this point. You don't have to feel so bitter because you *only* got a 90 and I got a 99. You're a vet and will still be listed before me if we're on the same list. |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican Dude, why would I feel bitter? I am a veteran, even if I scored a 70 I would still be ahead of you on the list, not to mention I speak 2 other languages fluently. So I ask again, why would I be bitter? |
| Originally Posted by KindaConfused read all my posts. I already clarified my time refrence regarding taking the test. Feel free to keep beating a dead horse at this point. You don't have to feel so bitter because you *only* got a 90 and I got a 99. You're a vet and will still be listed before me if we're on the same list. |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 Not if I can help it...as soon as rankings come out, if I am up there but not high enough cause VETS are above me...hello law suit. |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 Not if I can help it...as soon as rankings come out, if I am up there but not high enough cause VETS are above me...hello law suit. Is it discrimination against none-vets, or is it discrimination against those who chose to go to college? Don't get me wrong VETS, all the credit to you for enlisting full-time but remember, YOU VOLUNTEERED! No one made you enlist. |
| Originally Posted by john77 Good luck with that...let me know how it works out for you. |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican You claim to be prior service, why not take advantage of the $15,000 reenlistment bonus and get vet status at the same time? |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican So where do we stop with this ludicrous lawsuit? Should I sue if a company gives a position to someone with a bachelors degree, while denying me the position because I don't have a degree? That person VOLUNTEERED to go to college, they did not have to. Gimme a break. I don't see why you're not talking to a recruiter. As I've stated before, YOU CANNOT CHOOSE YOUR RACE, OR GENDER, BUT BY GOD YOU CAN CHOOSE TO BE A VET. I used to complain about a lot of things, but my grandfather recently told me to never complain about the things I can change. If I were you, I'd look for my nearest recruiter. You claim to be prior service, why not take advantage of the $15,000 reenlistment bonus and get vet status at the same time? |
| Originally Posted by KindaConfused You are right about one thing, being a non-vet is not a protected class. But there are other classes of people who are protected. Certain people in those protected classes are not allowed to join the military. So de facto (is that too big a word for you) giving a preference to veterans is discriminatory against those classes of people. And a law suit from one of those PROTECTED classes in MA may just be the catalyst needed to change the way civil service works. |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 I would defend this country with my life, any day, anytime. However, I am not going to enlist so I can go to Iraq to fight a war to free the Iraqi people when there are homeless people here [many whom are VETS] and others in need of a working healthcare system, that have been forgoten. Now with Katrina, wish we could help but all the $ and resources are over seas. |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican So where do we stop with this ludicrous lawsuit? Should I sue if a company gives a position to someone with a bachelors degree, while denying me the position because I don't have a degree? That person VOLUNTEERED to go to college, they did not have to. Gimme a break. I don't see why you're not talking to a recruiter. As I've stated before, YOU CANNOT CHOOSE YOUR RACE, OR GENDER, BUT BY GOD YOU CAN CHOOSE TO BE A VET. I used to complain about a lot of things, but my grandfather recently told me to never complain about the things I can change. If I were you, I'd look for my nearest recruiter. You claim to be prior service, why not take advantage of the $15,000 reenlistment bonus and get vet status at the same time? |
| Originally Posted by DVET1979 SMD, for the last time, you chose not to go active duty-deal with it . Good Luck with that lawsuit, I am sure that doing something that is percieved as anti-veteran during a time of war will go over real well in the courts and the legislature !!!!! I agree with Proud American that you cant change the way you were born, but you can choose to be a vet.. Anyone can think of a stupid reason to sue for discrimantion. I personally am staring my lawsuit against Hooters for them not hiring me to be on their waitstaff-The nerve of them, just because I am a man who is going bald and has a hairy back and nether regions, thats pure discrimination. Then I am going to sue Victoria's Secret Modeling for them rejecting me as well. Next I am going to sue the Mafia becuase I am not 100 percent Italian and cant become a made guy, CAN ANYONE ELSE THINK OF PEOPLE OR ORGANIZATIONS THEY WANT TO SUE? I WOULD LIKE TO GET A LIST GOING....... |
| Originally Posted by USMCMP5811 DVET, I'm going to sue my parents because I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth and rich, While I'm at it I think I'll sue MPOC, because they won't accept me to self sponsor, and maybe I'll sue them because they won't recognize my military accademy. So SMD, realy, let us know how you make out......Oh ya, DVET, I want to see you in that Hooters uniform...BWAAAAAAA HAAAAAAA |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 Not if I can help it...as soon as rankings come out, if I am up there but not high enough cause VETS are above me...hello law suit. Is it discrimination against none-vets, or is it discrimination against those who chose to go to college? Don't get me wrong VETS, all the credit to you for enlisting full-time but remember, YOU VOLUNTEERED! No one made you enlist. |
| Originally Posted by jay-z How dare you sleep under the blanket of security that are great man and women of this Nation provide for us, and then say something like this. Volunteered or not you should respect all the Men and Women that join the Armed Forces, if not for them you would be stuck living in a Third World Country. I, like so many out here had no type of connections but if you want it bad enough don't wait for it to be handed to you. GO AND GET IT. No matter how you want to look at it, join or Enlist or go out there and get it I am sick and tired of listening to people out here cry about Vets or people with connections or minorities. Find yourself a shit job security screening bags at logan for starts like I did and you know what it will pay off. No, we all want to be Police Officers right away, well guess what keep testing with CIVIL CIRCUS and one day it will be handed to you. Or just maybe you will wake up and be 50 talking the same sh**. |
| Originally Posted by ponyboy I agree. Vets should be awarded 5 points for their service which is a huge anount of points on a CS test but i don't think they should go right to the top of the list. |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 Jay-Z, are you a VET? Are you on the job? I have to tell you, I sure hope that if/when you ever have to write a report, that your grammar, spelling etc... improve because your going to have cases dismissed. Anyhow, if you would have read some of my other posts you would have seen that I was not criticizing the VET, I am criticizing CS system. PLEASE let me know if you are either a VET or on the job...that may strengthen my point that those with THE HIGHEST SCORE, should get CALLED before those with LOWER scores.... |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 Ponyboy - That I agree and can live with. That's what the State Police does and they turn out good recruits. |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican Wah! Wahhhhhhhh! I've got sand in my clit. Suck it up buttercup and cowboy up! This issue has been discussed ad-nauseum. If any protected group is entitled to any preference, it is the Veteran. How quickly you, and many of your ilk have forgotten that it is the VET that guarantees the rights you take for granted. Instead of being eternally grateful you've chosen to bitch and moan, about the little benefit we're given for our sacrifices. However I am not disappointed. You are excercising a right that many of my brothers/sisters have paid the ultimate price for. They died for your right to speak out against the benefits of veterans. |
| Originally Posted by jay-z Not to worry about the grammar and anything else out here and yes I'm a Vet, USMC may I add. Just to inform you I work for a Department that has nothing to do with CIVIL CIRCUS and I lived in a CIVIL CIRCUS city for many years. I also scored 96 and above on the test. But not crying over not being hired by the city I lived in. Went out and got it on my own. Oh if your so concerned about my court cases I do very well so keep crying and correcting me and I'll continue to do what you wish you can be doing. Oh for your info I was on the stand one day and had an Attorney comment on a misspelled word to the Judge and my reply was, " your Honor thank God for spell check because I would have misspelled a lot more words." The Judge smiled and said Officer I know what you mean. So if your good on the stand your good. |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 Jay-Z...I have to laugh and say I liked your response to me and the Judge. Your OK in my book. Anyhow, someone above wrote about how this subject has been basically hammered to death etc... I agree but again state, nothing against VETS! CS and the selection process is a joke! What CS town did you live in where VET and 96 did not get you called? I am a Boston resident and hope to god that my none-vet ass gets on with a 94 as I am turning 32 in 2 months. The selection process here in MA is frustrating!!!!!!!!!! |
but no offense too any of the vets out there cause i have the most respect for you guys and girls, your all heros, but to speak for all the non military people that are strugling to get on a department and have too face tough competition,, wouldnt in be nice too atleast get a discount on the f-ing exam since we dont have a fair shot at getting hired? so much for equal oppurtunity employmer .its like buying a raffle ticket, yeeah chances are your not gonna win, but if you do excellent. 
hell they cant even spread out the exam sites so people dont have too travel long distances, im just frustrated with the whole proceccs. its a joke i think mass sux and should seriously eliminate the test and have the towns do there own testing and stop stealing peoples money. seeeeeeee ya down south peoples 
Huh? | Originally Posted by OciferpeteHPD3500 ... All you need to be is a good person and very very fit. The run has to be done under11:21 |
More and more I'm seeing higher scores...
| Originally Posted by OciferpeteHPD3500 Hey incase anyone is wondering I appealed my score. Basically they send you an answer sheet and a copy of your scan tron from the day so you can see and correct the test for yourself. To Bad no extra ponints for me. |
| Originally Posted by kickboxer1st hey guys i got 85 Framingham. this was the first time i took the test im from a different ethnic background now american citizen i speak 2 foreign languages. Do you guys think i have any chance? thanks and take care |
| Originally Posted by ProudAmerican "So de facto", Here's a couple of things that will keep you from serving in our beloved military , a felony conviction, physically and mentally unfit for duty, I would say if any of those applies to you then law enforcement is not a wise choice. Wouldn't you agree?....wait a minute,....why am I even arguing this point with you?...unless you've worn the uniform you will never understand. |
| Originally Posted by tmsilvei I had malignant melanoma while I was in college................. So, the military is NOT a viable option for everyone, it outright excludes people, so why should there be a preference? |
| Originally Posted by sempergumby I don't begrudge any person for their decision to go to college or go in the Military. College grads have an advantage of school which a lot of PD's look for. Vets have an advantage that we are disciplined we have been to our lowest and highist and have beaten both of them. Their is a plus and minus to both avenues to become a Police Officer. College is not the only factor in hiring a person, and neither is the Military. A person has to weighed on his or her merits and personal character, not just an affiliation with a school degree or a branch of service. |
| Originally Posted by fjmas1976 I am not saying I begrudge a person for going to college. I only get upset when the college grads say us vets shouldn't get a preference. |
| Originally Posted by smd6169 As a reservists who never got activated (Out in 2000) I believe that VET's should get something - like 2 - 5 points as is given by the State Police. The absolute preference almost makes Active Military a pre-requisite for the job. Also, I think the method used to designate who is and who is not a VET should be updated. It is not fair when a 4 year Active Duty who never-ever serves in combat or during time of war is deemed a VET when an 8 year reservists who never get's activated or is in during "peace time" is not deemed a VET. Anyhow - this is one of those Agree to Disagree,,,, |
| Originally Posted by swimfins What do you think about the vet that did 4 or 6 years active duty but never saw any real action? |
| Originally Posted by DevilDog1775 Still gave up 4-6 years of his/her life.........spent Christmas/Thanksgiving/New Years etc. away from friends, family, and loved ones. Do you know what's it's like to sit in a barracks room on Thanksgiving without your family/friends around? Ever spent a birthday at the Rifle Range? The active duty service member LIVES the military 24/7 for the duration of their enlistment. The Reservists show up one weekend a month, and for two weeks once a year. Most of them are out of shape,unkempt, and bitch and moan about their "weekend drill". They're home for all the holidays, b-days, and their life hardly changes except for when it is "Weekend Warrior" time. |
you had the option to go Active Duty, but you didn't so you have no room to bitch. | Originally Posted by USMCMP5811 Well said Devil, you beat me to it. Let me add this, "For those who have fought for it, Freedom has a flavor the protected will never know" and unless you served Active Duty as DevilDog1775 said above, why dont you just STFU! because you will never know. you had the option to go Active Duty, but you didn't so you have no room to bitch. |
Nicely said............ Semper Fi | Originally Posted by smd6169 Devildog & USMCMP - you guys are Marines, brain washed by the corps and we wouldn't expect anything less but total ignorance from you. Stop quoting all these movies and other one liners youv'e heard over the years. Did you read "Jarhead" - all this Marine did was bitch. Be proud of what you have done as those who were reservists are. We all did what was right for us at the time. Just because you chose to go active duty doesn't make you a superior police candidate, a better person or a better soldier as compared to someone who chose the reserves or to attend college and get an education. Isn't serving your country a reward enough? You apparently fought for our freedom shapparently that be enough of an ego boost? Your a hero. Veteran's of apparently war's should be awarded by Civil Service for their service but 2 -5 points is more then enough as 1 point makes a world of difference on whether you will be called or not. A VET getting a 70 and just passing being placed above someone with a score of a 100 is ridiculous. It defeats the whole process of testing people. |
| Originally Posted by DevilDog1775 Still gave up 4-6 years of his/her life.........spent Christmas/Thanksgiving/New Years etc. away from friends, family, and loved ones. Do you know what's it's like to sit in a barracks room on Thanksgiving without your family/friends around? Ever spent a birthday at the Rifle Range? I do know what its like. Its awful, but at the same time there was always that rip of patriotism that gives you goose bumps while hoisting colors in the morning. No matter how far from home or what holiday. Hoo yah. Go Navy....hehe |
| Originally Posted by EOD1 yeah there is also nothing like missing your kids growing up also. serving your country(if that is the reason u joined) is a huge satisfaction, but there is 2 years of my daughters life i will never get back. i'll never get the birthdays back, the sick days the sad days the bad days the good days the cook outs, the vacations. i will never get that back. i earned my damn prefrence. there is nothing like getting shot on ur kids birthday. |
| Originally Posted by Macop 2 yrs and this thread is still running |
| Originally Posted by Maximus finally looked up my rank, 1st in my town. |
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