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Main Page How many cards? [Civil Service]
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Posted by: militia_man

If a Police Department intends to hire 10 Officers how many people will be sent cards from HRD, 30?

Posted by: Gil

Correct, 3 per open position

Posted by: clancy-dawg

Well, not exactly.......
Here is an excerpt from the Civil Service PAR's (Personnel Administration Rules)
PAR.09 Civil Service Appointments

(1) When names have been certified to an appointing authority under PAR.08 and the number of appointments or promotional appointments actually to be made is n, the appointing authority may appoint only from among the first 2n + 1 persons named in the certification willing to accept appointment, e.g.,when the number of the appointing authority appointments to be may appoint only from made is: among the first

1- 3

2- 5

3- 7

4- 9

5- 11

persons named in the certification willing to accept; provided that when more than one promotional appointment is being made, the first such promotional appointment shall be made from among the first three persons whose names are certified and who are willing to accept, the second such promotional appointment shall be made from among the first five persons whose names are certified and who are willing to accept, the third such promotional appointment shall be made from among the first seven persons whose names are certified and who are willing to accept, and so forth.

Posted by: smd6169

How are tied scores handled? If there is (1) person at #1 and (5) tied at #2, and the department hires 2, do they call ALL those tied for the # 2 spot?

Posted by: 7MPOC

If a department is hiring 10 officers, the top 21 people get a card. (2n+1) Tie Scores are not broken, however for example say the first 25 people on the list all scored 100. All 25 would get a card in the mail, but people with a 99 will be left in the cold. Hope that helps.

Posted by: Macop

Shut up 7th MPOC or I'll kick you but.

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Posted by: wryman

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7MPOC

If a department is hiring 10 officers, the top 21 people get a card. (2n+1) Tie Scores are not broken, however for example say the first 25 people on the list all scored 100. All 25 would get a card in the mail, but people with a 99 will be left in the cold. Hope that helps.

? Im so confused. What if they were hiring 1. Would all 25 get a card?

Posted by: oop2oop

This is what I was told, if a dept was hiring only one...three would get a card..take the hiring number, double it then add one. So I would say that a dept hiring ten would send out 21 cards. I do not know how they do ties, refer to up above, I gather more people would get cards. Hope this helps. I find out all info right on the website, pretty informative.

Posted by: wryman

This whole thing is BS!!! Why did they get rid of the # system and put in this tie, tie end shit?

Posted by: Macop

they will send out 21

Posted by: Macop

Because to get rid of it woul dmake too much sence and the state would loose money.

Posted by: wryman

?

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Originally Posted by Macop

they will send out 21

Posted by: j809

My understanding is that let's say you have 10 people tied, then all those 10 people are like one person so all ten would be interviewed for the one slot. So your department was hiring 10 officers, then the minimum would 10X2+1=21. But lets say that 30 people are tied on that 21, then 51 people would get cards. I know deparments call for a larger list then what they need, in case some people do not want the job anymore or background,medical,psych failures.

Posted by: wryman

Quote:

Originally Posted by j809

My understanding is that let's say you have 10 people tied, then all those 10 people are like one person so all ten would be interviewed for the one slot. So your department was hiring 10 officers, then the minimum would 10X2+1=21. But lets say that 30 people are tied on that 21, then 51 people would get cards. I know deparments call for a larger list then what they need, in case some people do not want the job anymore or background,medical,psych failures.

Finally someone is making sense!!!! Thank you!

Posted by: wryman

........but is it true?

Posted by: Foxracingmtnridr

Quote:

Originally Posted by wryman

........but is it true?

Who knows. HRD makes up the rules as they go.

We all know this.

Scott

Posted by: wryman

Quote:

Originally Posted by j809

Not true

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