Originally Posted by Curious EMT

Quick question for you patrol guys.
A Q3 on a party.
"A number" comes back SUS/REX
"S number" comes back ACTI
Do you hit them with "suspension, operating after", or send them on their way and tell them to hit the registry to get that A taken care of, as they're operating under the Active status of the "S" number?

What if it were reversed, A-License=active, S-License=suspended?
Does any Active status in Mass trump any other Mass Status?
What about Active Mass A number, suspended NH status, NH resident?
if i remember correctly, suspended in issuing-state = no good in mass ever, regardless of MA status

And how would someone get an A and S number, with the A suspended? A numbers are usually generated when an out-of-stater get a CMVI. The S number comes into play when he/she moves into the state. But would figure the RMV would not activate the S number until the suspension of the A number was resolved.

thanks in advance, looks like I just asked about a half-dozen questions, have a great day, be safe

Originally Posted by testtaker

I have gone over this a thousand times, the answer is this .... the RMV issues license or "right to operate" to a person ... although a person may have more than one number, once that "person" has the right to operate suspended/revoked, it is just that regardless if the person shows that he/she has other numbers in the system, which appear to be active.

If you are active in Mass but susp in another state, you are still active in Mass (but not for long)

If you are susp in Mass but active in another state - you are still susp.

If you are susp in another state and have no status in mass - you are driving w/o a lic.

The "A" number is assigned when a person does not have a number in the system (such as an out of state driver) Sometimes, people slip through (I know its hard to believe with the excellent RMV in mass) and get both numbers, of course they make no mention of that ticket they didn't pay (the A number) and get the "S" number so they would have both -- to bad says RMV your original susp will stick!

Does that help?

Originally Posted by bluesamurai22

If you are suspended in any state or D.C. you are suspended in Mass. due to reciprocity. See MGL C. 90 S. 30B...
When I see two different Mass. statuses I give the driver the benefit of the doubt and assume that the RMV has screwed up.

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Hmm.....

Reading 90-30B, I see words to the effect of the NDR but nothing that indicates that a suspended operator in New York is suspended in Mass. What I do see is that any infractions which occur out-of-state and are reported to the home state must be acted upon by the home state as if it had occurred in the home jurisdiction. For example, a BT refusal occurring out of state would result in the operator's suspension in their home state. Please specify where your "suspended there...suspended here" ascertation is found in this section, as it looks somewhat wordy. I may be wrong but I don't think so. Someone who is suspended in NC is NOT suspended in Mass - they have committed no infraction in Mass which would justify suspension - rather, their license to operate is NOT valid in their home state and thus is not recognized in MA as being valid. Therefore they are driving without a valid license - C90S10, not C90S23.

Also, I disagree with your philosophy on assuming the RMV screwed up. Although this may well be a possibility, you have official information from an official source which indicates that the operator in question is suspended. This overrrides any active status and it is the responsibility of the operator and RMV to work this out and not your place to apply your interpretations. Your ass is covered if you assume them to be suspended; should you opine that the RMV is wrong, cut the guy loose, and the worst should happen it is YOUR head on the chopping block when someone's next of kin comes looking for a lawsuit.