| Originally Posted by TO723 Have Anyother 96's Not Been Contatcted By A Bi Yet? |
| Originally Posted by Asystole I'm a 95 and was one of the 81 chosen to move forward based on my oral interview score. Since then I have received my conditional offer, and completed my Psych and medical exam. Just waiting to hear from a BI. J.Flynn said he expected to use most of the 95's that have been chosen. He said he could not promise how many, but chose the magic number 81 for a reason. The order in which the group of 95's get chosen for the 79th is again, based on our oral interview score. |
| Originally Posted by Cadet101 Im just curious and wondering that since you have receieved your conditional offer, and you pass your BI; what if they don't use all 81 candidates with a score of 95? You would obviously be in the 80RTT but what if there is no 80RTT from this list, would you have to retake the exam and start all over again? |
| Originally Posted by TO723 Have Anyother 96's Not Been Contatcted By A Bi Yet? |
| Originally Posted by dcs2244 You will hear when you hear. If you made it to the home interview, chances are you're "in". Unless, of course, the academy begins after your age "cut-off"...in which case you will receive a letter advising you that you have passed the cut-off date and are no longer being considered for the academy. I still have my rejection letter...and have now completed almost 18 years on the job... So, to answer your question: anything can happen at any time. You will be chosen or not. My advise to all of you is to not put all your eggs in one basket. Take as many tests as you can...accept the jobs that are offered. Sometimes you have to work and plan for a job...I came here from out-of-state and took this job. But I worked my way "up", doing the undesirable jobs (albeit for good money and good training) in the private sector...DO NOT think that you have to pass the test and get the job in 'one fell swoop'! Sure, it works that way for some folks...but do not depend on it! Take the test early and often...and don't give up! Naturally, if you 'give-up' in the SPA, we don't want you anyway...because it's not about you...it's about the MSP. Period. |
| Originally Posted by dcs2244 You will hear when you hear. If you made it to the home interview, chances are you're "in". Unless, of course, the academy begins after your age "cut-off"...in which case you will receive a letter advising you that you have passed the cut-off date and are no longer being considered for the academy. I still have my rejection letter...and have now completed almost 18 years on the job... So, to answer your question: anything can happen at any time. You will be chosen or not. My advise to all of you is to not put all your eggs in one basket. Take as many tests as you can...accept the jobs that are offered. Sometimes you have to work and plan for a job...I came here from out-of-state and took this job. But I worked my way "up", doing the undesirable jobs (albeit for good money and good training) in the private sector...DO NOT think that you have to pass the test and get the job in 'one fell swoop'! Sure, it works that way for some folks...but do not depend on it! Take the test early and often...and don't give up! Naturally, if you 'give-up' in the SPA, we don't want you anyway...because it's not about you...it's about the MSP. Period. |
| in which case you will receive a letter advising you that you have passed the cut-off date and are no longer being considered for the academy. |
| Originally Posted by dcs2244 Since there no longer is a mandatory retirement age in effect (although there are good reasons for one, but that should be the subject of another thread) it follows that there wouldn't be a "cut-off" age... |
| Originally Posted by dcs2244 You will hear when you hear. If you made it to the home interview, chances are you're "in". Unless, of course, the academy begins after your age "cut-off"...in which case you will receive a letter advising you that you have passed the cut-off date and are no longer being considered for the academy. I still have my rejection letter...and have now completed almost 18 years on the job... So, to answer your question: anything can happen at any time. You will be chosen or not. My advise to all of you is to not put all your eggs in one basket. Take as many tests as you can...accept the jobs that are offered. Sometimes you have to work and plan for a job...I came here from out-of-state and took this job. But I worked my way "up", doing the undesirable jobs (albeit for good money and good training) in the private sector...DO NOT think that you have to pass the test and get the job in 'one fell swoop'! Sure, it works that way for some folks...but do not depend on it! Take the test early and often...and don't give up! Naturally, if you 'give-up' in the SPA, we don't want you anyway...because it's not about you...it's about the MSP. Period. |
| Originally Posted by Dunny Can anyone answer the question about health insurance during the academy. Is it offered or is there a delay in coverage? I don't want to call HR. |
| Originally Posted by jeffusmc27 you dont receive health insurance until you've been there for two months. have a friend in 78th now |
| Originally Posted by Dunny Thanks. I found out after that it usually comes to 3 months, but the first month might be covered by your previous coverage. That leaves approximately 60 days without insurance and they recommend using Cobra. I don't know much about it, but they should explain more at orientation. Is anyone going to New Braintree on December 6th for the run and obstacle course? |
| Originally Posted by SPCHICK They're having more people do the run and obstacle course?! Who is left? |
| Originally Posted by SPCHICK They're having more people do the run and obstacle course?! Who is left? |
| Originally Posted by rjts are there any 96 waiting for the final letter? the waiting is killing me. |
| Originally Posted by rjts are there any 96 waiting for the final letter? the waiting is killing me. |
| Originally Posted by Wannabe1 Yup. I am waiting for a letter saying how my backround went! |
| Originally Posted by fore2213 I know the feeling.......i finally made a call the other day and politely asked if HR knew when the appointment letters would go out. I was told they are still in the processing stage and not to expect a letter before Jan. 1. Hope this info helps. |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker Any 96's still not been contacted by a BI??? |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica You won't receive anything if your background is good to go. Your hope now is not to receive any news until after Jan 1.By the way, there will be an 80th RTT. The funding just needs to be secured. Word is that it will come off the present list. 94s, I doubt any of you will be reached. The class is only going to be 80 trainees, with the hopes of graduating between 50-60 trainees. This is will be the first of the proposed maintenance classes the Colonel has proposed to the legislature. |
| Originally Posted by dayshift Has any of the 81 95's that have yet to take the obstacle course received a letter for the scheduled date? |
| Originally Posted by Pvt. Cowboy A little hope is better than none at all. I'll take the 80th. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica You won't receive anything if your background is good to go. Your hope now is not to receive any news until after Jan 1.By the way, there will be an 80th RTT. The funding just needs to be secured. Word is that it will come off the present list. 94s, I doubt any of you will be reached. The class is only going to be 80 trainees, with the hopes of graduating between 50-60 trainees. This is will be the first of the proposed maintenance classes the Colonel has proposed to the legislature.[/Q for the 80th RTT. Any idea when the consideration to funding will be and if approved when would this class go in? It seems that there is always talk of a maintenance class... has there ever actually been one. |
| Originally Posted by AFSecForces The 80th was going to be on the 2007 fiscal year budget. That budget does not come out until sometime in the summer of '06. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I remember that was said at the oral interview. |
| Originally Posted by Pvt. Cowboy I believe you hit the nail on the head here. The FY07 budget takes effect in June or July, I can't remember the exact date. The FY06 budget proposal was posted in the beginning/middle of January this year on the governor's website, so we may find out about the 80th's funding next month. |
| Originally Posted by Macboy Thanks for the feedback Cowboy. Lets hope that the funding is approved in January and that there is no TEST in 2006. |
| Originally Posted by ponyboy Lets hope the funding is not approved in January and there is another test in 2006. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica The 80th RTT is all set to go on paper. Dates have been established (no I do not know what the dates are, just something that I heard), but the funding has not been secured. The funding could also come in the form of a supplemental budget, passed before or after the fiscal budget is passed. Sometimes two or three supplementals are funded. Another concern: what is going to become of the SPA. Remember, if some people get their way, if it becomes kindler and gentler, you will not need as many bodies to fill the class because less people will drop out. And don't bet on the fact that things will not change. Changes will be made at the SPA. Let's hope it is not a complete reversal in philosophy. Rumor is that some people want to make it like the MCJTC, even like the FBI Academy, with no military standards or discipline. You wear khakis and a polo shirt and there is no yelling or drill. You are guaranteed to graduate unless you flunk out or do something stupid. Word is that there will be a test sometime in the late spring or fall of 2006. |
| Originally Posted by ponyboy Opie you are correct as I only scored a 91,but I made that post to show how ignorant and selfish mac boys post was when he said "Let's hope the funding goes through and there is no test in 2006." In reality i hope the funding does go through and all the guys that are right on the fence get a call that 's a huge kick in the dick to just miss it and have to test again,but I also hope there is another test in 2006. |
| Originally Posted by PCI Have any of the 81 95's been contacted by a background investigator. Just cleared my medical and waiting to be contacted. |
| Originally Posted by SPD3 The culture of the SPA will not change apart from the implementation of several new policies and procedures. The present colonel is a former commandant of the academy and when he was in charge there he made it abundantly clear that he was committed to the highest and most rigorous ideals of discipline and indoctrination. Keep in mind that the state police academy training program has withstood a countless array of legal challenges from dropouts over the last century all the while remaining almost completely unscathed, and this in one of the most liberal court systems known to man. The present program has an infinitely greater number of restrictions placed upon it than did the old academy in Framingham and yet it remains as tough if not tougher than at any time in the history of the agency. Of course there are some in the academic establishment that loathe the thought of discipline in training, but at the end of the day the program is completely designed and implemented by those who were and are a product of it. Such continuity has created a legacy, and one not taken lightly. |
| Originally Posted by PCI Have any of the 81 95's been contacted by a background investigator. Just cleared my medical and waiting to be contacted. |
| Originally Posted by dayshift Does anyone know if any group did the pt test this week at the academy? |
| Originally Posted by Dunny I think there were 9 of us on Tuesday. I thought I overheard someone say they were expecting 12. Of the 9, one failed the run. Four or five were there for the interview and the PFT and the rest just did the run/obstacle course. My impression was that they just returned from overseas. |
| Originally Posted by TopCop24 1 failed the run?? That is absolutely pathetic, especially knowing that you are one of 85 picked from a group. There is just no excuse for that, I hope that person realizes what they just missed out on. I may be harsh, but I have no sympathy for that person at all. To those who passed the run conrats, obviously who guys were preparing yourselves. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari No shit. The written test was given June 2002. The candidates for the 79th should be in the best shape of their lives when they walk through those doors. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 There's always morons who don't get it. My academy was delayed because of the Timothy Shepard fiasco, giving us even more time to get in shape, but there were still some people that flunked the pre-screening. And I'm not talking barely flunking, there was one guy who showed-up that must have been 350lbs. |
| Originally Posted by fore2213 Delta...when you talk about "pre-screening" are you talking about what it took to get into the academy, or is this a process that happens after the academy begins? If it begins after, what is that process? |
| Originally Posted by fore2213 I am clearly in the best shape of my life, but i have nothing to compare that to. In your opinion, if someone is running 5-8 miles 6 days a week, doing 2-3 hours in a gym 5 days a week, endless sprints, pushups and stretching.....does that put them in the ballpark for being "prepared" for the physical side of academy life?? Myself, and im sure many other guys on this site value the opinion of guys like you and Sine. Thanks in advance for your response |
| Originally Posted by SinePari If you show up in shape, ready to do PT, then that's one last thing you have to worry about. There are plenty of people on this board, who are candidates to attend the SPA and are nervous and freaking out about the PT. Believe me, there's plenty that you cannot prepare for but take care of the things you have control over. |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker Future 79th's...Any word yet? If not, when should we expect to hear? |
| Originally Posted by stgfp Anybody in the 95 group that has progressed that has still not done obstacle course or contacted by a BI. |
| Originally Posted by Dunny Think it's going to be the 2nd week in January. Just enough time to give our notice. |
| Originally Posted by Macboy If the 81 95's are still waiting on Bi's and the obstacle course is there enough time to do this, give notice to present employer and start the academy in early Feb. It really is getting to the crunch time. Something doesn't fit...just my observations. Here's hope you all hear soon. |
| Originally Posted by PCI Plenty of time....talked to some background investigators who stated that in the past they have passed the backgrounds down to the DA's CPAC units and had them done in seven days. I don't really think the SP is that concerned with how much notice you have to give your present employer. My guess is that its the end of the year and often they have a lot of use or lose time. I'm hoping that after the first of the year things will kick into high gear. I don't know how many more times I can look into the mailbox waiting for some kind of word. |
| What aspect(s) of the academy cause most recruits to quit?? |
| Originally Posted by SinePari Whatever your expectations are, when you walk through those doors multiply it by 100. |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker For all those who graduated in recent RTT's...What aspect(s) of the academy cause most recruits to quit?? What do future recruits need to be especially ready for?? |
| Originally Posted by Wannabe1 Anyone hear anything about this class being delayed? I've been hearing that they can't DI's to commit. Hopefully it won't be and recieving acceptance/denial letters won't be delayed either. The waiting is awful. Can any troopers confirm this? |
| Originally Posted by Wannabe1 Anyone hear anything about this class being delayed? I've been hearing that they can't DI's to commit. Hopefully it won't be and recieving acceptance/denial letters won't be delayed either. The waiting is awful. Can any troopers confirm this? |
| Originally Posted by TO723 More likely March now from what I here |
| Originally Posted by TO723 I'm hearing that it they are shooting for the end of Feb, but March is more realistic |
| Originally Posted by j809 Quite a few aleady got their letters a week ago |
| Originally Posted by j809 Quite a few aleady got their letters a week ago |
| Originally Posted by fore2213 J809...do you know if their letters said they were in, or were they info on orientation. The 78th got letters about the "open house" orientation, then at orientation were told the "official" letters would be arriving a day or so later. |
| Originally Posted by D421 I think he must be mistaken no letters for the 79th went out last week. Don't you think someone would have said something before today.......... well anyone get their letter????? |
| Originally Posted by D421 Thats what I thought........................................... ..................................... who didnt get a letter yet, that thinks that they should????? |
| Originally Posted by rjts I haven't heard anything either way. |
| Originally Posted by fore2213 Finally got a letter today. Not exactly what i wanted to hear, but at least its some sort of news. It says the start of class originally scheduled for Feb 6 will be delayed for up to 90 days. At least that gives us some idea. Oh well, more time to get it even better shape!!!! |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker Anyone else think that sucks?!?!?!? |
| Originally Posted by PCI Got a letter today that says they are not taking any 95's now for the 79th. Now that really sucks...Oh well keep running in case I get the opportunity for the 80th... |
So how many 96s are out there still waiting to hear anyway? I didn't even think they had enough 96s to fill a class without those few 95s? | Originally Posted by Wannabe1 I'm a 96 and waiting. A couple of my buddies are 95's and I am feeling pretty bad for them. I'd MUCH rather get the 90 day delay letter than the letter they got. |
| Originally Posted by SPCHICK So does this mean that they aren't going to tell us if we are in for at least another two months?! I am generally a patient person, but damn...this is annoying! So how many 96s are out there still waiting to hear anyway? I didn't even think they had enough 96s to fill a class without those few 95s? |
| Originally Posted by Wannabe1 From what I was told, it basically said that they did not need applicants from the 95 pool and that they had enough in the 96+ for the 79th. |
| Originally Posted by D421 what did the 95's letter say? Anybody know why they aren't taking any 95's |
. Who knows what really happened, all I know is that I was under the impression that they needed some of the the 81 95ers, so obviously something was missed. | Originally Posted by IceBreaker Anyone else think that sucks?!?!?!? |
| Originally Posted by fivepercentr Better than the Men In Black. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica If you think the 90 day delay sucks, try waiting two years. The 77th RTT was delayed for almost two years. We didn't have a clue what was going on until two months before the class start date. Just be grateful that you even have an opportunity, unlike the 95s who just had their bubble burst, to be a part of the finest law enforcement department in the country and make the most of your delay. |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker A 90 day delay does suck, but in no way am I minimizing the two year wait of the 77th or the 95ers who received their letters. I was only expressing some frustration over being almost there and then told to wait longer, because I realize the opportunity I have. Now, if these rumors are true, I might have to wait a very long time. I'll keep running and hoping. Good luck 96ers. |
| Originally Posted by emr Im a 97er that defered and never got anything on the 79th, dont know if that confirms the lost package theory? |
| Originally Posted by Sniper come on........ if the budget was passed for a full class, why would they scale it back to just a maintenance class ??? doesn't make sense. |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker We were told at the oral boards that they were looking to put in 200+. It's hard to believe they would go from 200+ to 75. That's a little drastic, don't you think? Why would they have started the process for the 95's if that's the case? |
| Originally Posted by popo I heard only 75 are going to 79th ,it's a maintenance class and probably only 75 for the 80th if it gets the ok to go. |
| Originally Posted by emr I just talked to HR and they said the 80th would be filled by the current exam. |
| Originally Posted by Sniper I am not stirring the pot by posting any info on here, but I had a convo with my BI today regarding all this stuff. They were more than happy to tell me right from the top of the food chain what is going on. I suggest anyone in the same position as me, looking at being in the 79th, to do the same thing. I can tell you that I feel ALOT better about this little "admin error" now that I know the TRUTH. Good Luck to everyone still waiting like me..... |
| Originally Posted by stubrie yip, yoo, validation cowboy. You must be a deferral. At least face the man, head on son.....don't retreat to re-hash your plan. The SP is no doubt the best thing that ever happened to some folks. Others take a more independent route.... they (others) are not better, just BETTER/DIFFERENT. I'm a wise ass, and have many FRIENDS on the SP, they are a great organization, and well respected. I will always honor and respect those folks.(all joking aside). I think that the agency is a great place, but even rome had to fall someday....... Good luck bub, in all your LE endeavors ( I truely mean it). True honor and substance mean more than any career...even if you are a janitor.... |
| Originally Posted by stubrie yip, yoo, validation cowboy. You must be a deferral. At least face the man, head on son.....don't retreat to re-hash your plan. The SP is no doubt the best thing that ever happened to some folks. Others take a more independent route.... they (others) are not better, just BETTER/DIFFERENT. I'm a wise ass, and have many FRIENDS on the SP, they are a great organization, and well respected. I will always honor and respect those folks.(all joking aside). I think that the agency is a great place, but even rome had to fall someday....... Good luck bub, in all your LE endeavors ( I truely mean it). True honor and substance mean more than any career...even if you are a janitor.... |
| Originally Posted by stubrie yip, yoo, validation cowboy. You must be a deferral. At least face the man, head on son.....don't retreat to re-hash your plan. The SP is no doubt the best thing that ever happened to some folks. Others take a more independent route.... they (others) are not better, just BETTER/DIFFERENT. I'm a wise ass, and have many FRIENDS on the SP, they are a great organization, and well respected. I will always honor and respect those folks.(all joking aside). I think that the agency is a great place, but even rome had to fall someday....... Good luck bub, in all your LE endeavors ( I truely mean it). True honor and substance mean more than any career...even if you are a janitor.... |
Next time lay off the bong hits before you decide to post | Originally Posted by REBEL Anyone Hear Anything New About How The Process Is Going For Selection Of The 79th.....have They Started The Lost Applicant Portion Yet? |
| yip, yoo, validation cowboy. You must be a deferral. At least face the man, head on son.....don't retreat to re-hash your plan. The SP is no doubt the best thing that ever happened to some folks. Others take a more independent route.... they (others) are not better, just BETTER/DIFFERENT. I'm a wise ass, and have many FRIENDS on the SP, they are a great organization, and well respected. I will always honor and respect those folks.(all joking aside). I think that the agency is a great place, but even rome had to fall someday....... Good luck bub, in all your LE endeavors ( I truely mean it). True honor and substance mean more than any career...even if you are a janitor.... |
| Originally Posted by SinePari Have you even read the FIRST 34 PAGES of this thread? |
| Originally Posted by REBEL EZ there killer..... I meant in the last few days.....yes I have been reading all 34 pages....just wondering if anything has been updated lately......calm down a bit there kid.....!!!!!!! |
| Originally Posted by Mikey682 REBEL, for your sake, I hope you are not in the running for the 79th, or 80th if that happens. Shitting on troopers in public internet forums, or otherwise making yourself or your attitude known will make it a fun 6 months, you're not THAT anonymous here! |
| Originally Posted by hunter what's the average everyone is running, mileage and time wise. has anyone heard what will be expected, distance wise, that we will be running each day. |
| Originally Posted by Clouseau Hunter ? I would change my name if I were you.... |
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker I am running 17-18 miles per week with the longest being 6. As for times, on the longer runs I am around 8 min/mile and the short runs are about 7:30. At the 1.5 mile run, the fitness instructor told us that in the academy they run between 15-18 miles a week. I am not sure what the distances are per day. I figure there are long and shorts days. As for time, someone earlier in this thread mentioned there are three levels of running groups (you might want to give that a look). Can anyone elaborate? |
| Originally Posted by mechanic I know the 79th hasn't started yet, but does anyone know if they are going to have an 80th off this list,I had to defer from the 79th, my wife is due in may with my second child. |
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| Originally Posted by IceBreaker Anyone hear anything about possible class start date, when letters will go out, orientation, etc.? |
| Originally Posted by SPCHICK I heard they are looking at April 3rd for the potential start date. |
| Originally Posted by PCI I have been hearing a rumor that some of 95's that received the bad news earlier in the month may still have a shot. Apparently, some of the candidates that had previously deferred either were not interested or did not return their applications by the 1/26/06 deadline. According to rumor, there were at least 80 individuals that had deferred and had not been given the opportunity for the 79th which caused the 95's to be bumped out. Now if thats true ( and I'm not saying that it is or isn't because I just don't know) some of the 95's may still be reached. I hate to spread rumors but I have been hearing this and wanted to keep some of the 95's on this board up to speed and let them decide. One way or the other I'm sure we will find out within the next 7 to 10 days. If anyone can confirm or deny this please reply to this post. It sucks not knowing !!!!!! |
| Originally Posted by PCI I have been hearing a rumor that some of 95's that received the bad news earlier in the month may still have a shot. Apparently, some of the candidates that had previously deferred either were not interested or did not return their applications by the 1/26/06 deadline. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari HR sent out about 140 packets and only 70 of them checked the box F*CK YEAH, I'M INTERESTED!!!. So if you're a 95, stand by, keep running. |
I remember that box! 
| Originally Posted by IceBreaker Since the 79th start date is supposed to be in April, when will letters go out? Do they generally only give two weeks? |
If you want it that bad, then it wont matter when you get the notice, just be glad that you did!!!!! | Originally Posted by Wannabe1 I am supposed to be in the SSPO that starts on March 20th. I am a 96 who hasn't heard anything yet on the RTT. At least it is at the same complex. |
| Originally Posted by Rock That's correct.....Most of them are for campus police departments. It's real interesting when you have the SSPO's and the RTT there at the same time. |
| Originally Posted by Rock No they are not "intertwined" at all. They are two completley seperate programs and shouldn't even be talked about in the same sentence. However they can be at the location but different areas of the SPA. As far as staffing is concerned they are doing what they have to do to meet their needs. |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy It can get tight, but think about last year when we had SSPO's, RTT and Junior Trooper program all there at the same time. |
| Originally Posted by Mikey682 God help you if you're a younger kid in an RTT while a junior trooper program is going through at the same time. Those 4 weeks couldn't end fast enough |