| If he was a former cop, does he not have the authority to carry under HR 218? |


| We need one of those priceless "Lenny" comments from Law&Order: Lenny was getting ready to cuff some scumbag and he said 'you've heard of the seven rings of Saturn? Well, these are the 2 rings of Rykers'. Click go the bracelets. |
| Side note to this Kill, I can't remember the guys name, but he was a huge friend of the badge. He use to do a lot of memorial and scholarship stuff with cops and their families. |
Exactly, nobody except for federal agents can carry a firearm on board an airplane. Unless of course you have taken the FAA training course and have a signed letter from your chief/commissioner stating that you are on-duty and need to be armed.
There is no reason why a retired or off-duty officer would have a firearm on the plane, it would have to be checked in the luggage like any other citizen.
| Exactly, nobody except for federal agents can carry a firearm on board an airplane. Unless of course you have taken the FAA training course and have a signed letter from your chief/commissioner stating that you are on-duty and need to be armed. There is no reason why a retired or off-duty officer would have a firearm on the plane, it would have to be checked in the luggage like any other citizen. |
I totally agree with on this one...Quote:
Well the "reason" is that the ridiculous FAA regulations turn the plane into an unarmed "victim zone". Pretty much the only time I don't carry is when I am forced to go into "sheep mode" because the federal government trusts me to carry practically anywhere except where its more likely a terrorist would actually strike. I can't carry so much as a knife, and airport secure areas and planes are the place I feel most naked to the enemy. While waiting for a flight I often look around at all the people and think to myself..so this is what its like to be victim.
I personally wouldn't see any problems changing the absurdly heavy-handed airline regulations to something more appropriate. Perhaps a law similar to Federal Flight Deck laws that allow a pilot to carry, if he's had the appropriate training. Many accredited trainers like Sig Academy and Smith & Wesson offer these courses for a reasonable fee. Police should be armed...period. If some incident were to occur on the plane, I'm pretty sure that armed or not, police officers would step up to plate and try to intervene or help, might as well give them the tools we use.
BTW, its not like Feds get some two week-long secret-super-ninja-training to carry on a plane..a friend in the FBI said its like a one-day course.
| Actually the "Flying While Armed" course which is required is a Powerpoint presentation which can take a less than a day and basically amounts to "don't shoot downward." |
| I just recently attended the "Law Enforcement Officers Flying Armed course" given by the Federal Air Marshals Service field office here in Las Vegas.It was an outstanding course.It was 10 hours and alot more than a power point presentation.Being that this is public forum,I'll just say that there were quite a few tactical scenarios with simunitions in addition to the classroom portion.Yes, only Feds can carry off duty on a plane after they have attended the above class.Local and state officers have to attend the above class,be on a duty status (i.e. transporting prisoners,going on duty upon arrival,etc.) and have letter from their agency stating above need. |
| I don't know about you, but I've met many more local and state officers I'd rather have at my back then most of the feds I've met. |
| I was pretty amazed that almost all the feds kept their weapons locked in their desks and would only take them when going on an operation.....going out for lunch or coffee didn't qualify. |
| That's all well and good, but do you think that the federal airlines regulations are fine the way the are or prejudiced against local or state officers? If any officer took aforementioned high-speed 1-day course, should they be "blessed" with power of off-duty airline carry? Or does the glow that surrounds all feds mean that they are the only people cool enough to carry on planes. I don't know about you, but I've met many more local and state officers I'd rather have at my back then most of the feds I've met. Like I've said, if some incident occurred on a commercial plane, an off-duty cop is very likely the person who will put himself in harms way, armed or not. There's a lot more of us than feds, why not stack the odds in our favor and let the cops off-duty carry on planes? It can only add security, and if a cop doesn't want to carry, then he doesn't, and acts like joe civilian. |
| "I'm the only one in this room professional enough to handle this Glock .40"........BANG!!!!!!!! I've never been impressed with federal agents' weapons ability; it seems to be an afterthought with many of them since they so rarely have to even draw them. On a busy night I might have to draw my gun 2-3 times, but a lot of feds are don't even carry theirs 2-3 times a week. When I worked on the Boston DEA Task Force, I was pretty amazed that almost all the feds kept their weapons locked in their desks and would only take them when going on an operation.....going out for lunch or coffee didn't qualify. |
| Are you talking about that video where that DEA agent is in a school and shoots himself? |
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