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Posted by: girlcop21

Seeking new direction, Meehan fires UMass Lowell police chief

By Christopher Scott, cscott@lowellsun.com
Article Last Updated: 05/02/2008 01:38:23 PM EDT




LOWELL -- Citing philosophical differences, UMass Lowell Chancellor Marty Meehan has fired Public Safety Chief Brian Pray.

Pray, 51, who was hired in September 2005 by Meehan's predecessor, William Hogan, has been replaced on an interim basis by Allan Roscoe. Roscoe is an adjunct professor and lecturer in UMass Lowell's Criminal Justice Department.

That appointment is expected to last a year or less or until a permanent replacement is found.

Pray, who earned about $117,000 annually, got the news in mid-April. A letter signed by Tom Costello, interim director of facilities, states, in part, that Meehan authorized him to terminate Pray "effective immediately."
The letter gives no reason for Pray's firing.

Meehan declined comment.

Costello declined to discuss specifics about Pray's firing, saying it's a "personnel matter."

However, Meehan has said in earlier interviews that he wants the school's public-safety personnel to adopt a community policing model, where officers walk and bike the campus, as opposed to riding in cruisers, and closely interact with students, faculty and administrators.

"We don't think (Pray) fit into the model that we're trying to build there," said Costello. "The Police Department is a critical piece of the community, and people look for it to interface. We didn't see it going that way."
Pray vehemently disagrees.
"Making up these arguments about community policing is nonsense," Pray, a resident of a North Shore community, said in an interview at his home. "This is all about politics. He just wants to get his own guy in there. Hey, that's his prerogative, I admit that. I don't want to sound like sour grapes here."


Furthermore, Pray said he was just as strong a community-policing advocate as Meehan, but the shortage of manpower limited the department "to just clearing calls."

Pray said when he took over, the department had a full complement of about 40 officers. But when officers resigned to accept jobs in cities or towns, or other universities, UMass Lowell didn't fill the positions. There are currently nine vacancies.

"My impression was, that was to balance the budget," said Pray. "I certainly wouldn't balance the budget if it hurt public safety."

Prior to his UMass Lowell job, Pray was the chief of the Salem State College Police Department for two decades. Previously, he worked at Boston College. He also did a stint overseas working for the U.S. State Department in Iraq, advising Iraqi police agencies in Baghdad.

Before joining UMass Lowell in 1999, Roscoe had a "long and distinguished career" as a senior special agent with the federal Office of Special Investigations, living and working in Asia and the Middle East with various international police and governmental organizations, according to a UMass Lowell statement.

Roscoe has taught a number of courses at UMass Lowell, including Hate Crimes and Domestic Terrorism, International Terrorism/Counter Terrorism, Criminal Profiling and Security Management.

He earned both his bachelor's and master's degrees in criminal justice from UMass Lowell. Prior to his new appointment, Roscoe earned $57,000 annually. Now he'll make $116,938. Roscoe will also continue to teach.
Pray's appointment was a somewhat high-profile affair, as three Lowell police officers also applied for the job.

They were Deputy Superintendent Dennis Cormier, who has been out injured for more than a year; Sgt. Dave Tousignant, who works in the department's detail bureau; and officer Russ Taylor, who has since retired and now works as a lobbyist for the New England Police Benevolent Association, a union that represents police officers in many local departments.

Nearly 50 people applied for the job. A screening committee, with the help from then Lowell Police Superintendent Edward Davis, winnowed the list to three finalists. Davis, now commissioner in Boston, will also help search for Pray's permanent replacement.

Two students who know Pray said they were not surprised by his firing.
Steve Holstrom, the Student Government Association president, said Pray always worked well with the SGA.

"But it was also my understanding students had trouble with him," said Holstrom, a senior political-science major from Gardner. "Stuff like police officers hassling students." Asked to elaborate, Holstrom said students have been accused of loitering, when in their view they were just hanging around.

Melissa Dion, the senior editor of the student newspaper The Connector, described Pray "as one of the nicest people I ever met on campus.
"But I've also heard there's not as much public safety on campus as there should be and Marty Meehan is trying to fix that" by having more police officers, added Dion, a Dracut native. For instance, Dion said some areas of South Campus need better lighting. Police officers also need to be more visible on campus, either by walking or riding bicycles

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As much as I didn't agree with the way Pray handled the dept prior to my departure, we were definately short-handed and were reduced to a response only department rather than being able to be proactive. Hopefully the current men and women of UMLPD get the leadership they deserve to get them back to where the dept used to be.


Posted by: Delta784

Tough break......I heard CMPSA is hiring.


Posted by: 94c

$117,000 to run a rinky dink department?

I need to start kissing some serious ass.


Posted by: Macop

You should be good at kissing ass, i'm sure yo had to, to get your current job.

Believing in a level playing field makes you a KKK member?

You're a complete moron.

Shove it up your ass, dickhead.


Posted by: HousingCop

Woo Hoo! I got the popcorn popping & a 12 shpack! Goona be a hot time in the town of MassCops tonight!

Getting back to the thread, Marty bin Meehan, Mr. Term Limits, wants his own stooge to run the place & kowtow to his every whim. He's just back in town to fatten up his state pension before riding off into the sunset. His Congressional pension is already kicking in. Talk about a double dipper, his snout is licking the gravy off the plate.

Pretty good cake (117K) to run a state college PD. Too bad they pay their cops barely liveable wages. Good luck to the next permanant talking head they hire.


Posted by: lofu

"Stuff like police officers hassling students." Asked to elaborate, Holstrom said students have been accused of loitering, when in their view they were just hanging around.


Back to the article, did anyone else catch this gem? Isn't "just hanging around" the defintion of loitering? Idiots!!


Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Macop View Post
You should be good at kissing ass, i'm sure yo had to, to get your current job.

Believing in a level playing field makes you a KKK member?

You're a complete moron.

Shove it up your ass, dickhead.
That was me who said that.

Thanks for proving me right.


Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
That was me who said that.

Thanks for proving me right.
Pay no attention Delta, whenever he starts drinking out of his paper bag, he has no clue who said what and when.

As much as I hated to do it, I sent him a Thanks.

Much like when you know you shouldn't give the homeless guy a buck, but you do it any way.


Posted by: mikemac64

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Originally Posted by girlcop21 View Post
Before joining UMass Lowell in 1999, Roscoe had a "long and distinguished career" as a senior special agent with the federal Office of Special Investigations, living and working in Asia and the Middle East with various international police and governmental organizations, according to a UMass Lowell statement.
Probably handled a ton of domestics in this post.


Posted by: j809

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Originally Posted by 94c View Post
$117,000 to run a rinky dink department?

I need to start kissing some serious ass.
It's interesting that you think of any PD besides yours as a rinky dink PD. UMASS Lowell PD is a just like any other regualr PD with some issues from their administration,same as other PDs and yes, probably the CHief there makes more than your Chief. They deal with the same crap as you guys do, domestics, A&Bs, rapes, etc, last I checked it's the same chapter and section everywhere in the Commonwealth. I heard Pray is a decent guy, squared away ,believe he got Salem State armed.


Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by mikemac64 View Post
Probably handled a ton of domestics in this post.
I had Roscoe as a professor in the UML graduate program; great teacher and a great guy, but I'm not sure about being a chief of police. If it stays interim then no big deal, but I'm sure there are more qualified people out there interested in the position on a permanent basis.


Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
It's interesting that you think of any PD besides yours as a rinky dink PD. UMASS Lowell PD is a just like any other regualr PD with some issues from their administration,same as other PDs and yes, probably the CHief there makes more than your Chief. They deal with the same crap as you guys do, domestics, A&Bs, rapes, etc, last I checked it's the same chapter and section everywhere in the Commonwealth. I heard Pray is a decent guy, squared away ,believe he got Salem State armed.
Maybe I missed something.

http://www.uml.edu/police/Crime_Info/Cleary_Act.html


Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by 94c View Post
Once again, the facts are devastating to someone's argument.


Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Once again, the facts are devastating to someone's argument.

My only point was that it's absurd for a chief of a department like that to be making $117,000 a year.

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
It's interesting that you think of any PD besides yours as a rinky dink PD. UMASS Lowell PD is a just like any other regualr PD with some issues from their administration,same as other PDs and yes, probably the CHief there makes more than your Chief. They deal with the same crap as you guys do, domestics, A&Bs, rapes, etc, last I checked it's the same chapter and section everywhere in the Commonwealth. I heard Pray is a decent guy, squared away ,believe he got Salem State armed.
If you work for that PD, I apologize. I was only trying to criticize the Chief's pay. If you don't, then please don't try to bullshit me.

Look for yourself.


Posted by: 5-0

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Originally Posted by 94c View Post
My only point was that it's absurd for a chief of a department like that to be making $117,000 a year.



If you work for that PD, I apologize. I was only trying to criticize the Chief's pay. If you don't, then please don't try to bullshit me.

Look for yourself.
I agree with you 94c, but at the same time have witnessed the nonsense that occurs on campus. The reality is that the Cleary act has become a joke. It's just another report for the school to pad. Most of the time, the chief's job is to find ways to downplay the calls that the department gets so that it doesn't trigger a reportable Cleary offense. I am not trying to justify the salary argument, just pointing out that Cleary reports are a joke to try and convince parents that it's a safe campus to drop x number of thousands of dollars on.

Contrast a campus with a municipality. Many times a municipality wants to crank up it's arrests, tickets, etc... to show that it's officers are working hard to keep the town safe. A campus is the exact opposite of that. Lies, damned lies, and statistics...


Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by 5-0 View Post
I agree with you 94c, but at the same time have witnessed the nonsense that occurs on campus. The reality is that the Cleary act has become a joke. It's just another report for the school to pad. Most of the time, the chief's job is to find ways to downplay the calls that the department gets so that it doesn't trigger a reportable Cleary offense. I am not trying to justify the salary argument, just pointing out that Cleary reports are a joke to try and convince parents that it's a safe campus to drop x number of thousands of dollars on.

Contrast a campus with a municipality. Many times a municipality wants to crank up it's arrests, tickets, etc... to show that it's officers are working hard to keep the town safe. A campus is the exact opposite of that. Lies, damned lies, and statistics...
Trust me, there happens to be a state campus not too far from where I work. I know quite a few of the guys on a first name basis.

I know about the so called guy who is supplying the whole campus with weed, BUT lives off campus in the city.

I have heard...

"When you arrest him, just don't arrest him here."

Better yet, the school administration that feels that student's off campus residency is protected by Federal Privacy Acts.

So there is no way to find out that the entire hockey team lists a single address as their residence, until the keg parties kick in.


Posted by: SinePari

The UMass pay system is one of the best scams going. Bulger and company look toward that pasture after their stints on Beacon Hill. Trust me, if I could pull off a state pension AND work for UMass after...count me in!


Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by 94c View Post
My only point was that it's absurd for a chief of a department like that to be making $117,000 a year.



If you work for that PD, I apologize. I was only trying to criticize the Chief's pay. If you don't, then please don't try to bullshit me.
That is a hell of a lot when the cops aren't treated as well on payday.

If you were just criticizing the chief's pay, I guess there was no reason to use the term 'rinky dink' when refering to the department. I think that's what had j809 had in mind when he criticized you. It was just an uncalled for shot at the people who work there.


Posted by: new guy

Most Chief's who work for decent size colleges make good money so I see nothing wrong with what the UML Chief earns but it is unfortunate that the UML Officers aren't getting paid fair market value as well. Sounds to me like a double standard that the union really needs to address. Best of luck to the former chief, he seemed like a decent enough guy, and good luck to those remaining.


Posted by: Tuna

The dealings I've had with U Mass Lowell PD have all been good. The rank and file work hard for short pay and put up with allot of shit from the faculty.


Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by Kilvinsky View Post
If you were just criticizing the chief's pay, I guess there was no reason to use the term 'rinky dink' when refering to the department. I think that's what had j809 had in mind when he criticized you. It was just an uncalled for shot at the people who work there.
Jim,

Don't waste your time, 94C is just an ignorant bitch.
Bottom line is here's another PERFECT example of a school administration yanking the rug out from under a "law enforcement" type chief, and seeking to replace same with overpaid lap-dog. Happened at another State school in 2003...



Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by mpd61 View Post
Jim,

Don't waste your time, 94C is just an ignorant bitch.
Bottom line is here's another PERFECT example of a school administration yanking the rug out from under a "law enforcement" type chief, and seeking to replace same with overpaid lap-dog. Happened at another State school in 2003...
The only reason I called it a rinky dink department is because I thought you worked there.

I guess I was wrong. So tell us how much police work you do where you work. My guess is crap.

But hey, as long as you think your a cop that's all that counts.

Massasoit Community College?


Posted by: 94c

You and your boy AssCop must be PM'ing each other. There is no way it's a coincidence that you both attack at the same time, every time.

Tell us about the last arrest you were involved in and when.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

94c, after our last little "spat", I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You're letting me down. I'm not sure what's going on with you, but whatever it is really is unbecoming.

What makes you a real cop isn't the number of arrests you make or how tough you think you are, it's all about how you carry yourself. A REAL cop knows that. I've met big city cops who weren't worth their weight in feces and I've met very small town and yeah, college cops who were as good if not better cops than Eliot Ness. I've also met the reverse.

It's not where you work, it's how. How you write reports, how you handle yourself in court, how you deal with the public and how you deal with suspects and victims.

Bottom line is, if you gotta tell the world what a great cop you are and what makes you a great cop is how many arrests you make, you probably aren't a great cop.

I don't know you personally. For all I know you are highly respected by your peers, or maybe you're the guy who walks in with 100 arrests a week, all for a joint or open container or some such thing. I don't know where you work or how you are at work. I have no idea, but your posts just aren't impressing me.

Sorry, just my opinion.


Posted by: j809

94C, brother, just because you looked up those illegitimate Cleary Act stats, does not mean that they are all accurate. I mean if you look at New Bedford's NIBRS/UCR stats for 2006, it shows that they only made 1 OUI arrest for the year. Not bad for a 200+ man department, or only 18 disorderly conducts arrests. When you take all the stats and divided them per officer, you will see that alot of these rinky dink departments you so called, have the same ratios of arrests per officer. For a city of 99,922 documented residents with the stats that you have, many other PDs can call your agency a rinky dink department. Like Jim said, your number of arrest doesn't make you a supercop. What separates a good cop from a great cop? Compassion.


Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Kilvinsky View Post
94c, after our last little "spat", I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. You're letting me down. I'm not sure what's going on with you, but whatever it is really is unbecoming.

What makes you a real cop isn't the number of arrests you make or how tough you think you are, it's all about how you carry yourself. A REAL cop knows that. I've met big city cops who weren't worth their weight in feces and I've met very small town and yeah, college cops who were as good if not better cops than Eliot Ness. I've also met the reverse.

It's not where you work, it's how. How you write reports, how you handle yourself in court, how you deal with the public and how you deal with suspects and victims.

Bottom line is, if you gotta tell the world what a great cop you are and what makes you a great cop is how many arrests you make, you probably aren't a great cop.

I don't know you personally. For all I know you are highly respected by your peers, or maybe you're the guy who walks in with 100 arrests a week, all for a joint or open container or some such thing. I don't know where you work or how you are at work. I have no idea, but your posts just aren't impressing me.

Sorry, just my opinion.
I thought I apologized but so be it.

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
. I mean if you look at New Bedford's NIBRS/UCR stats for 2006, it shows that they only made 1 OUI arrest for the year. Not bad for a 200+ man department, or only 18 disorderly conducts arrests.
Wikipedia is not a reliable place to gather your stats.

OUI, Disorderly?

You got me there.


Posted by: j809

No, not Wikipedia, but this.
http://www.ucrstats.com/
But what I am saying is that these stats are unreliable. All depends what you report to them.


Posted by: robodope

94C who cares where MPD works..I don't think it's relevant and it's a low blow because he is spanking you. Just stick to the topic at hand. Theres good and bad cops in every agency college, town, state ,...etc. No need to degrade what he does or where he works...If people believe the crime stats a college puts out then I have some nice swamp land to sell you in florida...


Posted by: HELPMe

Cleary Act is a joke any well informed person knows that. A Larceny all of a sudden turns into "well, they lost it right?" An assault turns into a "misunderstanding" and is referred to res life. Its a farce.


Posted by: SCPDLT

Last I checked the Clery Report does not include larcenies only Burglaries. That is one of the problems it not a very inclusive report at all. It not hard to under report crimes just follow the rules. It is simply a poorly written law that falls under the Department of Education instead of the Justice Department where it belongs.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by SCPDLT View Post
Last I checked the Clery Report does not include larcenies only Burglaries. That is one of the problems it not a very inclusive report at all. It not hard to under report crimes just follow the rules. It is simply a poorly written law that falls under the Department of Education instead of the Justice Department where it belongs.
That whole 'burglary' thing is a mess. We used to have the UCR classifications as the heading for our reports. It was absurd and I got in trouble questioning it. Ho-hum.

I merely pointed out that we couldn't use THEIR definition of burglary because is was not in line with the MASSACHUSETTS definition.

I was wrong, but oddly enough, our new computer system isn't set up to use the UCR catagories.


Posted by: SCPDLT

Thats one of the big problems with that law it does not match the UCR definitions they seem to have made up their own definitions when they wrote it.


Posted by: HELPMe

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Originally Posted by SCPDLT View Post
Last I checked the Clery Report does not include larcenies only Burglaries. That is one of the problems it not a very inclusive report at all. It not hard to under report crimes just follow the rules. It is simply a poorly written law that falls under the Department of Education instead of the Justice Department where it belongs.

LOL you know what I meant. I was just making a funny

The Clery Act can be down played very easily. It doesnt take much and yes, burglary and I should have put in there aggravated assault too.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by SCPDLT View Post
Thats one of the big problems with that law it does not match the UCR definitions they seem to have made up their own definitions when they wrote it.
When they went forward with the whole UCR thing, they had to take into account 50 states and several territories, each with it's own laws and definitions. They tried to make things UNIFORM (Uniform Crime Reporting). I think it's a great thing, but each department should have one or two people well schooled in the codes who can translate our laws and incidents into their definitions.

The issue I had at MY department was the lazy son-of-a-bitch who is responsible for the UCR wanted the patrol officers to take that burden off of him, or someone did. Putting "BURGLARY" as the heading on a report where an office building was broken into at 2pm in another state might be perfectly fine, but is just nonsense in Massachusetts.

So long as you have a dedicated UCR person, I'm all in favor of going with their standards and rules. Check out the FBI reports and it's pretty interesting. Boring too, but that's only if you read it too closely.


Posted by: girlcop21

word on the street is that Meehan has a relative that is a high ranking member of the Sheriff's Dept... hmmm, the next UML chief?

As for the men & women of UMLPD, despite what the Clery stats may or may not reflect, at one point or another the department is dealing with the same crap that a municipal may deal with and may in fact see more than some small town cops ever will. In my 5 years there, I dealt with 4 dead students, 2 dead non students one of which decided to blow his head off with a shotgun... drugs, drug addicts, alcohol, assaults, larcenies, armed robberies, foot persuits, had my gun pointed at someone more than once, assisted LPD in calls, domestics, MVAs, pedestrian accidents, etc.

Look, the bottom line is that these men and women are hard working and doing the same as any other armed department. The administration just doesn't want to give them the support and resources that they desperately need. As much as I didn't agree with what Pray did as a boss, the admin certainly used him as a scape-goat and as a way for Meehan to put into that office who he wants. Unfortunately, depending on who he puts in there, the officers at the department will be the one to suffer.


Posted by: new guy

Quote:
Originally Posted by girlcop21 View Post
word on the street is that Meehan has a relative that is a high ranking member of the Sheriff's Dept... hmmm, the next UML chief?

As for the men & women of UMLPD, despite what the Clery stats may or may not reflect, at one point or another the department is dealing with the same crap that a municipal may deal with and may in fact see more than some small town cops ever will. In my 5 years there, I dealt with 4 dead students, 2 dead non students one of which decided to blow his head off with a shotgun... drugs, drug addicts, alcohol, assaults, larcenies, armed robberies, foot persuits, had my gun pointed at someone more than once, assisted LPD in calls, domestics, MVAs, pedestrian accidents, etc.

Look, the bottom line is that these men and women are hard working and doing the same as any other armed department. The administration just doesn't want to give them the support and resources that they desperately need. As much as I didn't agree with what Pray did as a boss, the admin certainly used him as a scape-goat and as a way for Meehan to put into that office who he wants. Unfortunately, depending on who he puts in there, the officers at the department will be the one to suffer.
I couldn't agree more. If your working in an open campus / city environment than you'll be exposed to lot's of things that may never make the cleary stats. We just had a guy pick up three suspects who were wanted for armed robbery and attempted car jacking who committed their deeds elsewhere and were seen walking near our campus.


Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by girlcop21 View Post
word on the street is that Meehan has a relative that is a high ranking member of the Sheriff's Dept... hmmm, the next UML chief?
I think you have a pretty good idea of who your new boss is going to be.

How is Roscoe working out so far?


Posted by: southwick34

how's the pay?


Posted by: smallgrey

1. For those of you who spell it "Cleary" it's Clery. Jeanne Clery, raped and murdered in her bed on a COLLEGE CAMPUS. What a shocker. At least get her name right.
2. Brian Pray was one of the most stand-up guys I ever met in the business. He knew his stuff, ran a squared away department at Salem State, and had the best sense of humor. I can't imagine the insanity of replacing him with an ADJUNCT PROFESSOR. He's probably better out of that place and I'm sure he'll land on his feet.


Posted by: j809

Quote:
ice 1. For those of you who spell it "Cleary" it's Clery. Jeanne Clery, raped and murdered in her bed on a COLLEGE CAMPUS. What a shocker. At least get her name right.
F*ck off.


Posted by: new guy

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Originally Posted by smallgrey View Post
1. For those of you who spell it "Cleary" it's Clery. Jeanne Clery, raped and murdered in her bed on a COLLEGE CAMPUS. What a shocker. At least get her name right.
2. Brian Pray was one of the most stand-up guys I ever met in the business. He knew his stuff, ran a squared away department at Salem State, and had the best sense of humor. I can't imagine the insanity of replacing him with an ADJUNCT PROFESSOR. He's probably better out of that place and I'm sure he'll land on his feet.
Hey newbie, I think your 2nd point would have been much better illustrated if you skipped the lecture about equating one mispelled word with some type of disrespect to an unfortunate victim.


Posted by: girlcop21

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Originally Posted by smallgrey View Post
1. For those of you who spell it "Cleary" it's Clery. Jeanne Clery, raped and murdered in her bed on a COLLEGE CAMPUS. What a shocker. At least get her name right.
2. Brian Pray was one of the most stand-up guys I ever met in the business. He knew his stuff, ran a squared away department at Salem State, and had the best sense of humor. I can't imagine the insanity of replacing him with an ADJUNCT PROFESSOR. He's probably better out of that place and I'm sure he'll land on his feet.

1. too bad this stand-up chief would often tell officers not to follow through on cases or file charges because the offenders were just college kids that made a mistake... didn't want to increase his CLERY stats.

2. too bad a sense of humor didn't help him to lead a department and help with the morale of the department. He spent more time sending himself to training rather than the officers. I hope he has a sense of humor now as many people who left the department under his supervision are now looking to come back - even if the boss is an adjunct professor. (allthough I think Roscoe is full time...)


Posted by: AdamJ1984

Yes, Roscoe is full-time, I think he is the main advisor for the CJ department. Nice guy, seems like he wouldn't hurt a fly though, but that is just his outward appearance.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by smallgrey View Post
1. For those of you who spell it "Cleary" it's Clery. Jeanne Clery, raped and murdered in her bed on a COLLEGE CAMPUS. What a shocker. At least get her name right.
The niece of a very good friend of mine was one of Ms. Clery's best friends and lived in the next room at the dorm when the incident occurred. I knew this girl then and knew what she went through because of what happened. Every girl in that dorm was a victim to some degree that week and any of us who work/worked at a college campus was very grateful for the Clery Law being passed. It not only was a wake up call to the administrations but to those parents and guardians who honestly are clueless as to what can and does happen on a college campus. It's because of this event that many college PD made strides in professionalism that they hadn't before, just like VTech is having that impact now.

As for your rant, all I can say is, sure I may have misspelled the name at times, I've never bragged about my spelling abilities (nor would I be dum enuff two). You want to chastise those of us here who occassionally hit the wrong key and don't always use spell check, go ahead, but be a little more diplomatic or expect that some folks on this board just might hand you your buttocks with a large PR-24 sticking out of it.

Not me, I don't fight anymore. I'm a lover not a fighter. I'm just giving some friendly welcoming advice to a Cadet.

WELCOME!


Posted by: southwick34

Where did the former Chief of ULowell go to?????

What happened to all the ranks there???
Did they quit? Fired? Go with old Chief?

Are they hiring at UMASS - Lowell currently???

What academy?


Posted by: girlcop21

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Originally Posted by southwick34 View Post
Where did the former Chief of ULowell go to?????

What happened to all the ranks there???
Did they quit? Fired? Go with old Chief?

Are they hiring at UMASS - Lowell currently???

What academy?
I am an outsider now as I left the department a year ago... I can only tell you what others have told me with regards to your questions...

- don't know what happened to Pray.

- as far as the upper ranks: out of 2 Captains, 1 left to go back to her previous job prior to Pray leaving and the other Captain is still there in between his military leaves. As far as Sgts, 1 left just after I left creating a vacancy and another Sgt. (an outsider) was fired during his probation period. Both of these happened while Pray was there. A number of officers have recently been promoted to Sgt. and a Sgt. was promoted to Lt.

As far as academy, Pray was sending new hires to the SSPO rather than the municiapl academy that most of us had. Roscoe is now going to be sending new hires to the Lowell academy. As far as hiring, I would check with HR, but I do know Roscoe is looking to hire more officers due to low numbers.




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