Originally Posted by Macop

How goes the gun fight over there anyway?

Originally Posted by Loyal

what was the reason that the faculty gave ?

Originally Posted by fscpd907

Originally Posted by fscpd907

They feel that armed officers would intimidate the college community and want to look at “non-lethal” options.

Sadly MA State College cops are in a facilities / clerks union and they do not understand how to properly represent Police Officers. If we needed new lawnmowers then action would be taken.

Originally Posted by fscpd907

Arming police on campusBrandeis votes OK; others debate issue


Ken Corkran, director of public safety and risk management at Dean College, said the Franklin Police Department is only three to four minutes away, but administrators are still looking at perhaps arming police on campus. Why do all these people feel that, because the local police STATION is nearby, the cops will get there in seconds. It aint' the FIRE DEPARTMENT, it's the POLICE Department. And is there a guarantee that Franklin will have enough cops on at the time of an incident to be able to get there immediately? This guy is on the right track.

"We do recognize there will be instances where we need an immediate response, and that's what we're evaluating at this point," he said.

At Framingham State, a nonbinding referendum on April 16 found a fairly even split among its students. The vote was 263 in favor of arming campus police and 246 against.

Only one student gets a vote that counts: Jake Oliveira, the student member of Framingham State's 11-member board of trustees, which is scheduled to vote on the arming proposal on May 15.

Oliveira said he is "leaning against" supporting guns for campus police officers, but won't decide until the formal vote.

"There is a clear distinction if a police officer is breaking up a party and doesn't have a firearm and a police officer that does have a firearm," said Oliveira. Does this dope think that the cops will walk in waving the damn gun around? What kind of message is HE sending? Breaking up parties seems to be what this dope figures the gun is for and does he REALLY believe that the cops will get respect either way?

The police will get respect either way, Yes, we've all see the level or respect the cops get, unarmed or armed. Would that mean he's NEVER seen some dipstick give a cop a load of crap? Does he really believe that the purpose of a gun is to get respect and NOT to defend the life of the officer or some innocent person should, God forbid, the need arise? Oh my word. he said, but the presence of guns "tenses things up for a lot of people."

He also noted that campus police at both Virginia Tech and Northern Illinois were armed. So?

Sarah Charland, president of student government at Framingham State, said she is in favor of arming police.

"I just think because we live in scary times, and with all the past campus violence that's gone on in the last two years, we should try to protect ourselves as much as we can," she said. Smart girl. I LIKE this kid, she lives in the real world.


The Framingham State College Professional Association, which represents about 170 faculty members as well as several library employees, voted unanimously against arming campus police. Oh those pesky library employees.

"They didn't feel that the administration had necessarily made a strong enough case for arming the police," said John Ambacher, the union's outgoing president. "We just felt it needed more justification. I will not call for arming the police until I have been a victim myself of a violent crime. THEN I will call for the officers to carry M-14s and bazookas, but until that time when I personally am a victim, there is NO justification." What a moron.

Brad Medeiros, Framingham State's chief of police, proposed arming his force because campus tragedies have proven that every second counts, he said.

"You have to be able to engage these individuals immediately and neutralize the threat," he said. "The more time they have without opposition, without dealing with a law enforcement response, the more time they have to cause injury or death." Absolutely. To sit and say, "Hmmm, let's give this a few minutes, maybe he'll stop killing people." is just not a good thing to do....unless it's the FSC faculty?

His officers are already highly trained, said Medeiros, but will get more specialized firearms training if the proposal passes. They attend the Special State Police Academy and, like all other law enforcement officers, must submit to a background investigation, psychological assessment, and oral interviews before being hired.

"College policing has come a long way from years ago," said Medeiros. "They are regular police officers you'd see in your town, doing the exact same job."

"It can happen on any campus, that's the lesson learned," he said. Well, we all know how untrue that is, don't we. Some colleges have bubbles over them that only the academically inclined are allowed into. Ugh. I don't work for Chief Medeiros, but I like his train of thought on this matter.

Lisa Kocian can be reached at 508-820-4231 or at lkocian@globe.com.

Originally Posted by RCPD33

If the department does become armed (and I hope and pray they do), what does that do salary wise? Will the Officers be able to get higher wages from it as well? Is that in the back of everyone's mind and possibly a reason also against arming the department? I'd hate to think that, but you never know. Just food for thought. Hey BH, hands out of the pockets and stand straight brutha!

Good luck FSCPD from the former #908!

Originally Posted by RCPD33

If the department does become armed (and I hope and pray they do), what does that do salary wise? Hey BH, hands out of the pockets and stand straight brutha!

Good luck FSCPD from the former #908!

Originally Posted by mpd61