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Massachusetts definition of "failed to stop at red light"

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Posted by: plc23

Hello,

In Massachusetts, if the front of a car crosses the limit line before the light turns red, is it considered a "failed to stop at a red light" violation? It apparently varies from state to state. The Massachusetts laws of the road (Chapter 89, Section 9) does not appear to explicitly answer the question.

Thanks.



Posted by: mpr4601

Quote:
Originally Posted by plc23 View Post
Hello,

In Massachusetts, if the front of a car crosses the limit line before the light turns red, is it considered a "failed to stop at a red light" violation? It apparently varies from state to state. The Massachusetts laws of the road (Chapter 89, Section 9) does not appear to explicitly answer the question.

Thanks.
For some reason, 95% of those I cite for 89/9 state "The light was yellow!". You must be a 95%er. Please appeal twice to the magistrate.



Posted by: CJIS

Surely you can't be serious. But sadly you probably are. Let me make it really easy for you.

I am not exactly sure what kind of answer you are looking for but I'll give it a shot.

If the light is a a solid Red and you fail to stop, you ran it
If the light is a solid Yellow and you fail to stop if safe to do so you ran it

The only way you can run a yellow is if it just turned yellow and if you were to apply your brakes you would be unable to stop at the stop line.
However this rule does not apply if you were unable to stop because you were speeding. (this would fall under speeding and traffic light violation)

The only other case is if a car was up your ass and would have rear ended you if you stopped.

All other cases you must stop.



Posted by: mikemac64

Just a rules of the road refresher: A yellow light does not mean speed up.



Posted by: rg1283

I laughed so loud, that the dog started to bark when I read this.



Posted by: HOLLYROCK50

Quote:
Originally Posted by plc23 View Post
Hello,

In Massachusetts, if the front of a car crosses the limit line before the light turns red, is it considered a "failed to stop at a red light" violation? It apparently varies from state to state. The Massachusetts laws of the road (Chapter 89, Section 9) does not appear to explicitly answer the question.

Thanks.
Don't listen to them... The white line and the red light are just sugestions to stop. And in no way should you be forced to even slow down for the yellow light. Go ahead and appeal that ticket and you will get the justice you are entitled too.

Now that being said go hit yourself with a tack hammer because you are a retard!



Posted by: OCKS

Also if you stop beyond the stop line it is a violation.



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Quote:
Originally Posted by plc23 View Post
Hello,

In Massachusetts, if the front of a car crosses the limit line before the light turns red, is it considered a "failed to stop at a red light" violation? It apparently varies from state to state. The Massachusetts laws of the road (Chapter 89, Section 9) does not appear to explicitly answer the question.

Thanks.

89/11 Stopping on or blocking a crosswalk line



Posted by: sammy269

I forget the exact CMR, but it specifically shows "running a yellow light." It gives the exact same fine for running a red light, which, I believe under the CMR's is $35.00. Either way, if they say "it was yellow," they get gigged for yellow. Same "bat" fine, same "bat" chapter.



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Quote:
Originally Posted by plc23 View Post
Hello,

In Massachusetts, if the front of a car crosses the limit line before the light turns red, is it considered a "failed to stop at a red light" violation? It apparently varies from state to state. The Massachusetts laws of the road (Chapter 89, Section 9) does not appear to explicitly answer the question.

Thanks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Wampanoag View Post
89/11 Stopping on or blocking a crosswalk line

As I have reread your question I think I may have read it wrong. If you are asking about stopping at at a yellow light when you reasonably can stop and fail to do so
Violation:
720 CMR 9.06(10)(H) Yellow traffic light failure to stop for when reasonable

If you run a red light

89/9 Red traffic light Failure to stop for
or
720 CMR 9.06(1)(E) Red traffic light Failure to stop for





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