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Posted by: USMCMP5811

ANyone herer work for Bridgewater State that could shoot me a PM? I have a few question.

Posted by: Mitpo62

I know they'll be looking for two or three patrol officers. They still have a Lt. opening too. The pay's not great, but it is a good gig.

Posted by: USMCMP5811

Hmmmmmm.......... I threw my app and resume in a month and a half ago when they were looking and got the generic fresh off the press letter of thanks for applying for a position that is not open. We'll see if they kept it on file.

Posted by: Mikey682

Last time I didnt even get a letter. If they get swamped with applicants and they want to do it the RIGHT way why dont they just hold a test to screen the applicants first.

Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Last time I didnt even get a letter. If they get swamped with applicants and they want to do it the RIGHT way why dont they just hold a test to screen the applicants first.

Gee, I don't know Mikey....... The part i had to laugh at onmy letter was at the very end where the director for HR had her name all typed out, there was a spce left for the signature but it was never signed

Posted by: badogg88

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I go to BSC, and it sounds just about right. I moved out of the dorms almost 6 months ago and half of my mail from them still goes to my dorm address instead of my house address, and I still get "resident" emails every day. I think they do just enough work to get things done, but miss simple things like siging an HR paper or taking someone off the resident list!

Posted by: stadinko

It is the State system, efficiency is not part of the lexicon-that's why there are so many good jokes. But get your pens ready, they just lost a shift worth of personnel and it looks like this summer recruiting will be a priority.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Pens indeed! As much as five patrol officers and 10 reserve officers. I do believe the Lt.'s job is all sewed up!

Posted by: Dibble

On campus scuttlebut is: 3 Officers with the possibility of another leaving soon, and that the Lieutenant position hasn't even reached the interview stage yet. That place is hurting. And with their record of moving at a snail's pace good luck to the guys that are left to work, hope you didn't want any time off this summer! I'm sure the bosses will be feeling bad for you from their beach, not desk, chairs.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Ouch Dibble, that hurts!

pank:

Posted by: Dibble

Not aimed at you Mitpo, unless you're one of the bosses sitting on your hands over there. The officers left are bearing the brunt of their slow reaction and lack of foresight. The open positions were apparently not a huge surpise....

Posted by: mpd61

WOW!

That place should be a good place to work now that the yellow-oozing-ear hearing-challenged fellow left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mitpo62

MPD, I am not allowed to comment on that comment.....

Posted by: Mitpo62

Just posted recently........BSC is looking for four (4) patrol officers. Check it out at www.bridgew.edu. Great job, great experiences, plus the full municipal academy!

Posted by: badogg88

They are looking for 4, as well as one reserve (as said on the website).

Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

For a place that is so great to work there is a lot of turn over?????

Posted by: badogg88

I think it's a great place to start out, not necessarily to build your career there....but that's just me.

Posted by: mpd61

Yes!!!!!!!!
The place is the BALLS!!!!!! They have a decent Chief, a FANTASTIC detective, and they show up in force for legislative hearings!!!!!

Seriously, I would recommend them as a good place to do police work for not enough pay.

Posted by: badogg88

They have new cruisers now!! Update the picture!

Posted by: USMCMP5811

For a dept that's looking for bodies, I still haven't gotten a call

Posted by: wryman

Go to their website and check out the Police Log. That will explain the low pay rate. 95% Lock outs and jumpstarts. Oh, a few fire alarms.

Posted by: mpd61

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Go to their website and check out the Police Log. That will explain the low pay rate. 95% Lock outs and jumpstarts. Oh, a few fire alarms.

Nice!.......................

Actually it's the AFSCME/Higher Ed contract+State agency that dictates the low pay rate. Anybody who thinks a Police log is the whole story is a neanderthal. Or maybe just a little bit poopy.

Posted by: stadinko

Good point MPD. I'm also told they are looking for a whole slew of reserves too, not just the one. Guess the pay blows, but it's a good place to get some experience under your belt if your coming from a more restrictive department. As far as full time, the place sounds like a bit of a train wreck, but if they can straighten out with a new crew it might be just the right time to jump on.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Ah geepers, I don't think it is a train wreck so much as a string of bad luck, sort to speak. For example, through no fault of their own they had officers leave for other departments. The chief is committed to sending folks to the academy; part of the creed for a professionally trained department. You then create some very marketable people. It is certainly no fault of the administration there that the pay is so lousy. The benefit of course is great working conditions, experiences, and training. Top notch place without a doubt!

Posted by: Dibble

Contact with a few of the departed gives me the impression that the upper echelon are the train wreck he might be referencing, the patrol staff seem to be the more on the ball of the two groups. Looks to me like a pretty good opportunity to work with some decent officers at a place where they let you do your job. I say good luck to them.

Posted by: stadinko

You're right Dibble, was painting in broader strokes than intended. I certainly don't claim to be an expert on their department, only pass what I get from those I know, there's always another opinion. Mitpo, your defense is admirable, if confusing. If what I hear is correct, you left after a short stint and they locked the door behind you. How about some real info from one who's been on the inside instead of the vague PC wax job? Might help someone get a better handle on what the place is really about. I'm sure it would be appreciated. I myself am not above becoming educated, and changing my position because of it.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Sorry, "PC" is all you'll get from me (publicly speaking, of course).

Posted by: mpd61

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How about some real info from one who's been on the inside instead of the vague PC wax job? .

Oh GOD!!!! be careful how you talk about "wax"

Posted by: Mitpo62

Are they looking for four or five coppers at BSC? Some folks at the BI are very interested. Still accepting paperwork?

Posted by: SPINMASS

Shhhhh, keep that on the DL sarge. Don't want to give certain people any ideas over here.

-W41

Posted by: badogg88

I think the closing date was last Saturday, it's not online at the Jobs@BSC anymore.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Curses! Foiled again!

Posted by: SSPO#11

Anyone going through the process?

#11

Posted by: badogg88

I applied but haven't heard anything. Has anyone else?

Posted by: USMCMP5811

Not one Ioda

Posted by: badogg88

Ok, I heard (from a reliable source) that one of the positions was filled, however another officer left today. So there is another position that needs to be filled. I spoke with someone and asked why, if I applied for a position, I didn't get a call and he said that it could be because I don't have an academy under my belt.

But seeing as they're down from 13 officers to 5, and maybe even more, as well as only having 2 reserve officers...the chances aren't looking so bad.

Has anyone ever gone through the campus police hiring process? Any tips for an interview or kind of guidelines as to what is going to happen? Thanks I appreciate it

Posted by: Mitpo62

I can honestly say that with BSC one need only have the reserve academy to work. However, keep in mind that if BSC is flooded with applicants with the full academy the pickin's will be slim. It is a very slow process there, not because of the PD but the main admin/HR. Patience is a virtue.

Posted by: stadinko

They lost yet another one this weekend. What in the wide wide world of sports is going on over there! This particular individual is not a huge loss in the scheme of things I hear. They were out more hours than they put in. Yeah, one of those. Good luck to dwindling number of people left to man the shifts, maybe you'll luck out and hire some workers.

Posted by: SPINMASS

Well maybe my odds are getting better.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Apparently interviews were held last Monday with 13 candidates. A list has been sent to the chief for review. Don't know how many positions this round includes. Stay tuned I suppose...

Posted by: MPD

Let me ask you this, how great is it over there at Bridgewater State if everyone is leaving and I mean everyone. Be very careful, they take care of the top first over there not the lowly officers...

I did hear something ridiculous that they only start at about 29K!!

Posted by: Irishpride

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I did hear something ridiculous that they only start at about 29K!!

You tell me, you work there.

Posted by: redtargetarea

Our openings occured as a result of 3 going to civil circus. Oh by the way civil service is a joke, and protects you if you are an idiot to begin with, because you screwed up doing stuff you shouldn't have done. Two of the three stated that the equipment is crap where they went to, and time off is difficult to get. If the money was better at BSC they may have stayed. Another left to a private college PD to be closer to home.
And the final left for a federal police job.

They were able to move on because BSC trains with the full time academy (MBTA presently). If you are looking to do police work we are the place to be. If you are looking to do security work with a pair of rusty cuffs that never get used then look into the other agencies that post on this board and say that BSC is so bad. We will be posting two additional positions shortly because the college gave us two more on top of what we have already. HMMMM two more from a college administration, that's not because we sit on our hands and do building checks and lock doors. Oh by the way five brand new cruisers at once, shotguns, yet again from a college administration. Our junk cars out number all of these joker departments.

I've been on three sides private college PD, municipal PD and now here. BSC is the best by far. Wheeew.....

Posted by: BMC324

1st story
I lived in WB and would go to parties at BSC during the early 90's The first time I ever had a gun pointed at me was at BSC. Just because My friend and I had run around MY car twice flirting with each other (sober). BSC flies up with Bells and whistles and orders me to the ground at gun point. Granted I was 300lbs at the time, played Football and was just about to enter USMC. The two officers did not weight more than I did combined. HAHAHAHA. (reason for gun point) They ask her if I was assualting her and what was going on. She told them we where playing. Anyway I was on the gound the whole time cuffed. When the took the cuffs They basically ran back to the cruiser when I wanted their badge numbers
2nd story. 3 yeaars ago I moved to Bridgewater to an apartment complex just across from the football field. Driving home one night (3AM) after a night out with the boys in boston and Brockton. We all know how empty Bridgewater is after 10PM. Well They get behind me and run my plate.. Some Alpha Hotel must have F*^& with me and I had 2 BSC cruiser and 3 Bridgewater cruiser pull me over. As 6 officers approached me with weapons out, one came to my side and asked if I had any weapons in the car.. I did not and told them this. I was ordered to show ID and reg. As I did this kids voice raised about 10 octives like a little girl yelling to me "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS" I calmly told him Where do U keep your wallet? I have to get mine." Well I show them my ID and badge... He starts laughting and says that my plate came up with Warrants for stolen guns and assualt charges out of Texas... He walks back to his car then came back 2 minutes later saying he must have hit a wrong letter. Because my plate is fine... They all thought it was funny.. Which if I did That I would think it was funny too...
But every night I would come home from work at 2330 or so BSC cruiser would be parked by the gate to our apartment for about 2 weeks and flash the take down lights every time I drove by...
That is my two 2 cents

Posted by: Dibble

"These events are fictional and are not meant to portray actual people or places, any similarity is purely coincidental". BMC obviously fell asleep watching "cops" and dreamed those things really happened to him.....smoke another one.

May be a grain of truth though, guess they have a certain lieutenant who does have the voice of a little girl.

Sucky pay, absentee bosses(could be counted as a plus), good training. Tough call.

Posted by: SPINMASS

I have heard nothing but good things about the department and hopefully will get an interview with the next postings, if not i will keep trying till I do

Posted by: mpd61

Hey,

Having lived for 44 years next door to BSC and working with some of the same town P.D.'s they do here's the scoop..........................

1. They have excellent front-line equipment
2. They are an active department and I'll put up the Brockton District
Court daily dockets to prove it.
3. They go to the Full-time academy (contributes to turnover) and
continuous specialized courses.

You digest the above and make what you will of it.

Yes, ANY department has one or two yahoo's or over-the-top types. You can't paint the whole department with one broad brush however. Also the pay SUCKS. They are an AFSCME school, like mine here next door, and deserve an immediate 20% pay raise to help retention, but now I'm falling into opinion and we know what that means.

Bottom line............................

BSC is the pre-emminent STATE College P.D. in Massachusetts today.

Posted by: SSPO#11

The only problem is they discriminate against white males. So if you are white you need not apply.

Posted by: Radio1

You know it's amazing to sit here and read all these posts from people who are absolutely clueless about BSC. Where do you people get your information??????

Posted by: BMC324

Radio I go mine First hand.... I can give U witness info when I had the weapon pointed at me back in 1991 Witiness is a WBPD officer now . And I have/ get the want/warrant/plate check they did that Memorial day (night) at 0306 in 2002 at WaterFord Village Bridgewater MA. I have 4 friends who are on WBPD who called that night to see Y they stopped me... I was trying to get on WBPD at the time.... too.

Posted by: badogg88

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Radio I go mine First hand.... I can give U witness info when I had the weapon pointed at me back in 1991 Witiness is a WBPD officer now . And I have/ get the want/warrant/plate check they did that Memorial day (night) at 0306 in 2002 at WaterFord Village Bridgewater MA. I have 4 friends who are on WBPD who called that night to see Y they stopped me... I was trying to get on WBPD at the time.... too.

1991 was 14 years ago. Maybe some of the officers are the same, but it's a completely different department now. I guess you could base your entire opinion of a department on one thing that happened 14 years ago (which I'm sure we're not getting the whole story), but I certainly wouldn't.

By the way, does anyone even LIVE in WB?

Posted by: Mitpo62

Ups, downs, highs, lows. Bottom line: BSC is THE place to be!

Posted by: Macop

The only problem is they discriminate against white males. So if you are white you need not apply.

Oh bullshit, They have how many minorities, not many, I went to the web site and did not see any minority officers.

Posted by: BMC324

No not alot of people in WB home prices are going through the roof.. I was just putting my 2 cents in about BSC.... I never said they where a bad department... That the 2 times that I have had contact with them was not the best in the world....

Posted by: SSPO#11

"Bridgewater State College is an equal opportunity employer which actively seeks to increase the diversity of its workforce." - BSC Website

Hey Macop......did you notice that they only have 5 patrolmen left?

Posted by: badogg88

They may only have 5 cops left, but of the cops that did leave, there were 2 females, and the rest were white men. There are no minorities on that PD right now.

Posted by: Macop

I dont care if they have 2 cops left, I have never noticed a large amount of minorities there. Quit using that as an excuse it old. Are you going to tell me they activley don't hire wht males, dont mean to be a jerk but its pretty pathetic how some people keep harping on that BS excuse. Come up with a new one.

Posted by: badogg88

MAcop, I am agreeing with you buddy.

Posted by: reno911_2004

Do females count as minorities?, cause they still have at least one. So I guess that makes their department made up of 20% females.

Posted by: Mitpo62

BSC only had two female police officers and both have left for higher ground.

Posted by: stadinko

Latest update from the eye in the sky: No female officers left, no minorities in uniform. Hmmm, wonder how many applicants will be passed over for them to fulfill their gender and diversity dictates? Apparently except for someone already on part time staff for a while(with full acad), only one "non-female, non-diverse" applicant even made it to the final round of interviews for many of the openings. And the Lieutenants position was offered to a "diverse female" from North Bumf*&k who has less road time than most of their officers. Curious.
And that's the way it is........ Just relaying the news people-don't shoot the messenger.

Posted by: reno911_2004

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BSC only had two female police officers and both have left for higher ground.

Even the real cute one? She was there about a month ago

Posted by: Mitpo62

Gone Reno. Sorry.......

Posted by: SSPO#11

I am not going to get in a race war with you MACop. Take it for what it's worth....

I just do not agree with "actively trying to diversify the workforce" that is directly from the BSC website...call it an excuse if you want. Go there and look for the line yourself. It's there.

I am a firm believer no matter what your race, background, sex or whatever you should not be judged. If you have the best training and qualifications to do the job then you should be hired. If three black males are the best candidates then the three black males should be hired. It should not be about race this is 2005.

BSC is an awesome department, probably the best campus PD in the Commonwealth. I just don’t agree with one aspect of the college. If someone who works there wants to confirm that the statement on the HR website is not true I will stand corrected.

Posted by: mikey742

Does anyone know the starting rate for reserve officers?

Posted by: badogg88

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Does anyone know the starting rate for reserve officers?

$13.54

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Does anyone know the starting rate for reserve officers?

$13.54

Thank you.

Posted by: Dibble

The best campus PD in the commonwealth? Sorry, beg to differ. Maybe years ago when the shifts were populated with some heavy hitters and the students had more of an active on campus social life. But ever since the zero tolerance policy and their Chief started hiring those in his own image, they are certainly more Lt. Dangle than Dirty Harry. They look good but their makeup is a bit watered down. Still one of the better departments but their rep has carried them for a while.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Rep? BSC stands alone.... period.

Posted by: Radio1

There aren't to many local college departments that have Chapter 90, own booking/holding room with a breathalyzer, cruiser shotguns, cruiser labtops, town specials powers, and a lojack system. Also they don't have to worry about nonsense such as locking and unlocking in dorms or in buildings. I know it doesn't have the problems that UMASS Amherst has, but I think its one of the top departments.

Posted by: SSPO#11

I hope nobody took offence to my statements above.....

I just do not agree with a statement like that on an HUMAN RESOURCES website. It had nothing to do with the department. Like I said it.....it is a great State College PD.

#11

Posted by: stadinko

Anyone knows that powers bestowed and equipment doesn't make a department, the people exercising and utilizing do.

Posted by: Mitpo62

Two other police officer positions have been posted. The deadline to apply is July 20th. Check it out at www.bridgew.edu. Don't delay!

Posted by: CampusPoliceSEMA

Here is the deal, and let me start by saying Hello Chief. I will qualify this by saying, yes I do know what I am talking about.

Dept. has lots of toys and equipment, and we do a lot of police stuff, but things are not all roses.

Chief- gets all the equipment and good training (full academy), but still is a HUGE mircromanager and do not think that if you get on that he will not call you to a scene to arrest someone for him (booking, transport, all other paperwork less of the short paragraph report) and all discretion is taken away, this is good that there are lots of arrest, but this often goes overboard. Plays like he is your friend and then takes the Lt's inot his office to have them change all about you.

Dep Chief- Left and came back and should have stayed gone, not much to say here except he THINKS he is a tough guy.

4x12 Lt - HUGE EGO, thinks he knows it all, should have done some time between being a patrolman and a Lt.

12x8 LT - New hire and should not have been hired except for 2 check marks in the Minoroty column. Didn't we learn when they hired the last female from under the rainbow.

Split shift Lt.- PUPPET for the Chief, another one too fast a rise up the chain. Still has Brown on his face from kissing the Chief's A$$ while applying for the Lt. job, some day will be a good Lt if he grows to think on his own.

Sgt's - all Squared away and great guys.

Patrol - all good guys (no females) although at least one of us (day shift) does not want to do much work.

So - here is the rundown, the dept. has lousy pay and good equipment. Like a lot of other colleges the admin consist of micromanagers.

The dept. will be better of being run by a new Chief and brass. Great stepping stone as you will get an academy, but the wait may be up to 3-5 yrs with us hiring so many.

Love,

Me

Posted by: mpd61

Ok, Ok, I get it. Sounds like an inside scoop to me. But just one question left...............................

Is the DepChf that has "returned" the same one who recently went "Down East"?

Posted by: Mitpo62

I'd answer that, but I don't want anymore phone calls......

Posted by: Dibble

CPSEMA

You seem a little bitter

I may be wrong, but I'm going to have to guess that you don't work there, or don't anymore. Because if you did, there should be so many other things to say. Even I know that, and I'm only a distant relation.

The Chief is not a micromanager, maybe you have him confused with his little buddy that left in search of a higher being. The guy shows up in the middle of the afternoon and leaves before shift change, that includes meals. How much can he possibly manage other than his huge gut? Guess you are right about getting called to do the work, but you forgot to mention he only deals with children so you at least don't have to worry about handling any hard types.

The Captain, or whatever bullshit title they added in order to make it sound like they have this sprawling department, is anything but a tough guy. He's apparently too nice for his own good, or his position. Too busy kissing babies and giving in to everyone to get any respect. Not to mention he is way over his head, and it's hard to swim when one finger is stuck up your ass and the other one is sewn to the bosses nut sac.

The 4-12 Lt. is a boob, but won't waste time going into that, I don't have enough to cover what you hear about him. Just glad for his shift that he doesn't really work there all that much.

The split shift Lt. doesn't seem so bad. Maybe he could let up on the perfume a little, but sounds like he's one of the only guys that shows up and tries to keep it together over there considering his partner let's him do all the admin duties for the both of them.

Guess the new Lt. looks like she would be more comfortable in some flannel and work boots splitting a cord of wood, and probably has about as much timbering as police experience. But let's wait on that ticking package and see what is what.

The shift sergeants are easily the more squared away of the command rank(doesn't sound tough considering), it is common knowledge that they are the ones who run the show. But how about a couple sour mofo's? Maybe they're pissed off because unlike the rest of the ranking members, they have to show up and run a shift. But I think they'd be bitter anyway.

The survivors, I mean Officers, do what they can. I am not hear to say anything negative about them. I'm late walking my dog, and he's about to piss on me. I just like zinging the rank. I do it for the voiceless. I do it because I've heard they read it. I do it because I can. Have a nice day.

Posted by: Macop

I went by there a few weeks ago, I was impressed by the entire new fleet they have.

Posted by: fscpd907

Two of the new fleet

http://www.pbase.com/firefly019/image/44425205

Posted by: Mitpo62

Those are great pics! Contrary to what has been posted here lately, I still maintain (having worked there myself) that BSC is the "primo" college department to work.

Posted by: mpd61

Mitpo!!!

It is the primo STATE colleg to work for. Too bad the Johnny-come-lately's had to copy our black n' white cruisers though!!!

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