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Harvard University Police: Arrests Draw Fire from ACLU

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Posted by: fscpd907

Arrests Draw Fire from ACLU


By JAMISON A HILL
Crimson Staff Writer

The nation’s preeminent civil liberties group is accusing the University of maintaining a political intelligence unit within the Harvard University Police Department (HUPD), an allegation that comes after two protesters were arrested during a demonstration in the Square.

The protesters allege that undercover HUPD officers were photographing the demonstration, according to John Reinstein, the legal director of the Massachusetts division of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

“What we found really quite surprising and disturbing is that the Harvard police department has an undercover, plainclothes, political intelligence unit which so far as I know has never been acknowledged by them before,” Reinstein said.

HUPD spokesman Steven G. Catalano declined to comment, and a University spokesman did not comment as well.

The protesters, Patrick Keaney and Lisa Nieves, were arrested March 3 in front of the Holyoke Center according to the HUPD’s police log. The log said that “officers were monitoring a demonstration” prior to the arrest.

“Two demonstrators became confrontational and acting in an aggressive manner toward one of officers,” the log said.

Keaney was charged with resisting arrest and Nieves was charged with disturbing the peace. The charges against Nieves have since been dropped, though Keaney’s case is still pending in the Cambridge District Court, according to Reinstein.

Reinstein said that the ACLU has filed a request under the Freedom of Information Act to discover whether Harvard shares the intelligence it gathers with the federal government. Other schools have connections with the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTFs), local teams of law enforcement and intelligence specialists formed to investigate terrorism.

According to the FBI’s Web site, there are JTTFs in 100 cities across the U.S., including one in Boston.

Shareef Fam, a member of the Boston Coalition for Palestinian Rights who was at the protest, said that the protest was nonviolent and that he spoke with uniformed police officers about keeping pedestrian passageways clear at the beginning of the event. He said that Nieves was taking pictures during the protest, which was called by Harvard students, with the intent of distributing the photos later to the rest of the protesters present.

Reinstein said that Nieves noticed a bystander in plainclothes taking photos of the protest and decided to go photograph him. When she did, the man informed her that he was an undercover police officer with HUPD and placed her under arrest for refusing to delete the photos. Kearney said that the officer would have to arrest him if he was going to arrest Nieves and so Kearney was also arrested, according to both Fam and Reinstein.

“It’s a little unnerving to find Harvard undercover police spying and taking pictures of Harvard students on public property,” Fam said.

—Staff writer Jamison A. Hill can be reached at jahill@fas.harvard.edu.



Posted by: HousingCop

I've got a 2 word answer for these students if they don't like it..
GO ELSEWHERE.

Continue your education at Daddy's expense at a more liberal college (if there is one) if you don't like Haaavard. Then maybe in your new school of choice, you could use the treadmill while in your burkha at any time of the day while the gym is cleared of men.



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by fscpd907 View Post
“It’s a little unnerving to find Harvard undercover police spying and taking pictures of Harvard students on public property,” Fam said.
Here's a Con Law 101 lesson for Mr. Fam; you cannot be spied upon while you're on public property.



Posted by: Killjoy

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“What we found really quite surprising and disturbing is that the Harvard police department has an undercover, plainclothes, political intelligence unit which so far as I know has never been acknowledged by them before,” Reinstein said.
"Political intelligence unit"....not to deflate your balloon, but believe me no one cares about you moonbat politics. Not that I even believe HUPD has an "political intelligence" unit.



Posted by: BrickCop

These are the same folks who have NO problem filming cops. Their mantra is that the cops shouldn't mind if they're not doing anything wrong yet whine when the camera is turned around. Hypocritcal crybabies.



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

The nation’s preeminent civil liberties group is accusing the University of maintaining a political intelligence unit within the Harvard University Police Department (HUPD), an allegation that comes after two protesters were arrested during a demonstration in the Square.


Watch out for the Men-in-Black... their coming to take me away heee haaa!!



Posted by: sdb29

It just goes to show you how out of touch people like this are. Every REAL radical protester knows that wearing the tin foil hat will keep their image from appearing in photographs.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

AN UNDERCOVER, PLAINCLOTHES POLITICAL INTELLIGENCE UNIT??!?!?!?

I wish this information hadn't been kept from the rank and file, I'm sure most of us would have signed up.

Then again, I've often wondered who those people are that constantly slip in and out of the station. They never show their faces and meet in little groups in the conference room late at night with all the shades drawn and only one small light in the center of the table, all the while 'white noise' is all one can hear from in the hall. I tried to listen in one night and, at least I think I did. Most of that night is a blur and all I remember is waking up and being told I had been in a car accident and had spent two days in the hospital. But I don't remember that either. Hmmmm.

I've also heard strange transmissions on our radio frequency from time to time and rumor has it that the HUPD is actually the parent agency of the CIA, but that's just a rumor. Everyone knows the CIA was started with Yale people!



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Kilvinsky View Post
AN UNDERCOVER, PLAINCLOTHES POLITICAL INTELLIGENCE UNIT??!?!?!?

I wish this information hadn't been kept from the rank and file, I'm sure most of us would have signed up.

Then again, I've often wondered who those people are that constantly slip in and out of the station. They never show their faces and meet in little groups in the conference room late at night with all the shades drawn and only one small light in the center of the table, all the while 'white noise' is all one can hear from in the hall. I tried to listen in one night and, at least I think I did. Most of that night is a blur and all I remember is waking up and being told I had been in a car accident and had spent two days in the hospital. But I don't remember that either. Hmmmm.

I've also heard strange transmissions on our radio frequency from time to time and rumor has it that the HUPD is actually the parent agency of the CIA, but that's just a rumor. Everyone knows the CIA was started with Yale people!
Careful....that entire post could end up in the next edition of the Crimson as
"proof" of HUPD's secret unit.



Posted by: fscpd907

HUPD Rebuts ACLU Claims

HUPD says there is no undercover political intelligence unit


By JAMISON A HILL

Crimson Staff Writer


The Harvard University Police Department (HUPD) denied allegations that the University maintains an undercover political intelligence unit in the wake of two arrests that attracted the scrutiny of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

“Despite what the ACLU asserts, we do not maintain an undercover unit,” HUPD spokesman Steven G. Catalano wrote in a statement yesterday. But a police report does show evidence of undercover intelligence gathering at a political demonstration.

“I had been photographing the demonstrators for intelligence gathering,” Detective Thomas F. Karns Jr. wrote in a March 3 report of his activities at a human rights protest in the Square. He described himself as “conducting plain clothes surveillance on a demonstration.”

Massachusetts residents Lisa M. Nieves and Patrick J. Keaney were arrested by Karns after the protest.

ACLU attorney John Reinstein, who is representing Keaney, said that the ACLU has filed a Freedom of Information Act request to see if Harvard is sharing the intelligence it gathers with the federal government, specifically with the joint terrorism task forces overseen by the FBI.

The task forces are local units of law enforcement and intelligence officials based in cities around the country, including Boston. According to Reinstein, several universities work with these special groups, including the University of Massachusetts, the University of Texas, the University of Georgia and the University of Arkansas.

The Brown Daily Herald has reported that the Yale University police are part of a terrorism task force in Connecticut.

Both Catalano and the FBI declined to say whether Harvard has appointed someone to a Boston joint terrorism task force.

Special agent Gail A. Marcinkiewicz said, however, that the FBI does not film protests.

“The right to protest is protected under the First Amendment,” she said. “What we are interested in are the people who are thwarting or interfering with people who are protesting.”

University spokesman Joe Wrinn said Harvard police officers do film certain events on campus in a statement to the Boston Globe yesterday.

"We film when there is potential for violence, property damage, vandalism, HUPD arrest, or other circumstances require it," he said.

Reinstein said that Nieves noticed a bystander in plainclothes taking photos of the protest and decided to go photograph him.

According to the police report, Karns said that he identified himself as a police officer after an altercation in which Nieves tried to photograph the detective. Karns was wearing a hooded sweatshirt to obscure his face.

He followed Nieves into the Holyoke Center, private Harvard property, where he identified himself as a Harvard police officer and asked for her identification. She refused to provide it. According the report, Nieves began to shout, attracting a crowd, and Karns placed her under arrest for disturbing the peace.

—Staff writer Jamison A. Hill can be reached at jahill@fas.harvard.edu.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Quote:
Originally Posted by fscpd907 View Post
HUPD Rebuts ACLU Claims

HUPD says there is no undercover political intelligence unit


By JAMISON A HILL

Crimson Staff Writer


The Harvard University Police Department (HUPD) denied allegations that the University maintains an undercover political intelligence unit in the wake of two arrests that attracted the scrutiny of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

“Despite what the ACLU asserts, we do not maintain an undercover unit,” HUPD spokesman Steven G. Catalano wrote in a statement yesterday. But a police report does show evidence of undercover intelligence gathering at a political demonstration.

“I had been photographing the demonstrators for intelligence gathering,” Detective Thomas F. Karns Jr. wrote in a March 3 report of his activities at a human rights protest in the Square. He described himself as “conducting plain clothes surveillance on a demonstration.”

Massachusetts residents Lisa M. Nieves and Patrick J. Keaney were arrested by Karns after the protest.

ACLU attorney John Reinstein, who is representing Keaney, said that the ACLU has filed a Freedom of Information Act request to see if Harvard is sharing the intelligence it gathers with the federal government, specifically with the joint terrorism task forces overseen by the FBI.

The Brown Daily Herald has reported that the Yale University police are part of a terrorism task force in Connecticut.

“The right to protest is protected under the First Amendment,” she said. “What we are interested in are the people who are thwarting or interfering with people who are protesting.”
I find it very amusing that when these clowns protest and media shows up to film it, they're very proud of what they're doing and make even more noise, but anyone else is obviously out to get them.

What the hell do they care if they ARE filmed by anyone? How devoted is someone to a cause if they run and hide at the sight of a camera? This isn't the Soviet Union or China where once you're identified, you disapear. Fer Krissakes how juvenile.

Hey, btw, isn't it amusing that the BROWN University paper is cited for mentioning Yale PD working with the FBI and NOT the YALE paper?

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Careful....that entire post could end up in the next edition of the Crimson as
"proof" of HUPD's secret unit.
Holy Crap Delta, you've got a point there. You're correct in that those kids just might take that silly line as gospel and run with it. Now THAT'S investigative journalism at it's best!



Posted by: hupd451

Jimmy be careful they may be spying on you....



Posted by: GreenMachine

He only asked for her ID and she began to yell and draw a crowd She wouldn't have been arrested if she just gave it to him as required and not been so liberal about it.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by hupd451 View Post
Jimmy be careful they may be spying on you....
Kevin, I'm still waiting on the GPS to be installed. Funny enough, Sgt. JackO was saying the other night that HE has always said that in-car computers would mean GPS. Funny I don't recall that, just me being totally paranoid.

How YOU doin' by the way?



Posted by: RCPD33

Sgt JackO?

Things have certainly changed, eh Jim?



Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by RCPD33 View Post
Sgt JackO?

Things have certainly changed, eh Jim?
Oh dear God, yes. So far he seems to be doing fine, but that kool-ade he drank has to kick in sooner or later.



Posted by: hupd451

Couldn't be better!!!!!!



Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by GreenMachine View Post
He only asked for her ID and she began to yell and draw a crowd She wouldn't have been arrested if she just gave it to him as required and not been so liberal about it.
No way!!! I'm certain she was calm and collected! You're just making that yelling stuff up! Those kids just want to learn, they don't have time to be uncivil!




Posted by: Kilvinsky

An uncommitted protest.

"WHADDA WE WANT?"

"we're not really sure."

"WHEN DO WE WANT IT?"

"whenever."

"HEY--HEY, HO--HO......could we finish this up, we've got to go."





Posted by: soxrock75

I wonder if the "Political Intel Unit" will be out observing the Wu-Tang Clan as they perform in Harvard Yard. On second thought, they will probably have to pick up the John Harvard statue because it fell over from the shock that the Wu-Tang Clan is actually performing so close by.......................



Posted by: GuyS

ACLU-All Criminals Love Us



Posted by: mtc

Sounds like princess was looking to make a scene after knowing the guy was a cop.

Shocker!





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