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Posted by: Delta784

Can someone tell me the chapter & section that requires people to repaint old MSP cruisers after purchase? We have a local whacker running around in one that literally just had the decals peeled off, and you can still clearly read "state police" on the trunk & fenders.

He's been warned, but apparently hasn't got the message. I'm interested in what the maximum enforcement action is.



Posted by: 1234hey

-sounds like something mexicanman would do.



Posted by: resqjyw0

I think you can only go after who ever sold the vehicle with $500 per 266-92A unless it was sold to the buyer by the state or other political subdivision.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/266-92a.htm

I've searched MGL and can't find anything else that would apply. I thought I read somewhere here that they have to sign something saying that they will have the police markings removed and painted a solid color within 30 days of sale. It was probably that CMPSA thread.

http://www.masscops.com/forums/showt...?t=7602&page=5

But it went from trying to find something to nail the guy on to just shitting on him.



Posted by: rokurmthr61

well you could possible get him for impersonation if he acts or drives like a cop, and if you can clearly see the word "police" but im not sure about the actual law.



Posted by: resqjyw0

I found here that it says "use of emergency vehicle markings prohibited by law" as an equipment violation. I guess it gets you 2 surcharge points on insurance.

Go to page 128:
http://www.mass.gov/Eeops/docs/mrb/A...Procedures.pdf



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by resqjyw0 View Post
I found here that it says "use of emergency vehicle markings prohibited by law" as an equipment violation. I guess it gets you 2 surcharge points on insurance.

Go to page 128:
http://www.mass.gov/Eeops/docs/mrb/A...Procedures.pdf
So would that be 90-7?

It really isn't marked; the removal of the markings left the clearly legible (faded vs. non) letters, so I'm not sure if that would fly.



Posted by: resqjyw0

I'm not really sure either. I've searched through MGL and CMR after I read that. I also read the actual wording of 90-7 and didn't find anything that would actually apply.

Instead of taking away details why don't they pass a law that specifically states that emergency vehicle markings and paint schemes (MSP French and Electric blue and black and white schemes for example) can only be displayed on official emergency vehicles?



Posted by: BlackOps

I'll buy a gallon of pink paint from Home Depot...... any volunteers to help me paint this guy's car for him?????



Posted by: kwflatbed

I know if you buy one from the SP auction it states that you must repaint
it on the sales agreement, unless the agreement has been changed in the
last couple of years.
I thought I had a copy of one but I looked and can't find it.
A call to SPHQ might be the answer.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by resqjyw0 View Post
Instead of taking away details why don't they pass a law that specifically states that emergency vehicle markings and paint schemes (MSP French and Electric blue and black and white schemes for example) can only be displayed on official emergency vehicles?
For the few of our deathtraps that have made it directly to auction from police service, the mechanics simply took a can of bright-colored spray paint and made squiggly lines down the sides and on the hood/trunk. I don't know why the state doesn't do the same.



Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
For the few of our deathtraps that have made it directly to auction from police service, the mechanics simply took a can of bright-colored spray paint and made squiggly lines down the sides and on the hood/trunk. I don't know why the state doesn't do the same.
There isn't any incentive since they are the exception to the rule.

Passing a law that prohibits police paint schemes, markings or evidence of there being markings would allow us to go after the owner/operator if they fail to repaint after sale and would also cover the possibility of some whacker, that can do body work, making himself a cruiser.



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by rokurmthr61 View Post
well you could possible get him for impersonation if he acts or drives like a cop, and if you can clearly see the word "police" but im not sure about the actual law.
How does one actually "drive like a cop?" How do you actually charge someone for impersonation if he "drives like a cop?" I can actually think of any number of ways to send a subtle or not so subtle message to this whacker.

BlackOps has the right idea. A midnight paintjob may be an option. Nice big pink letters down the side - NOT A POLICE CAR - would be funny to see.



Posted by: quality617

266 92a.
It's all I can find.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by quality617 View Post
266 92a.
It's all I can find.
No need to search further, we have a winner.



Posted by: rokurmthr61

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackOps View Post
I'll buy a gallon of pink paint from Home Depot...... any volunteers to help me paint this guy's car for him?????
NO BALLS HAHA



Posted by: GMACK24

Maybe you can ask your police chief what to do ?

hee hee heee

: - D



Posted by: rokurmthr61

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post
How does one actually "drive like a cop?" How do you actually charge someone for impersonation if he "drives like a cop?" I can actually think of any number of ways to send a subtle or not so subtle message to this whacker.

BlackOps has the right idea. A midnight paintjob may be an option. Nice big pink letters down the side - NOT A POLICE CAR - would be funny to see.
we all well most of us drive like assholes b.c we can get away with it.

So by them driving like an asshole whos going to call it in when joe shmo thinks it MSP!



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by rokurmthr61 View Post
we all well most of us drive like assholes b.c we can get away with it.
I'm actually like Driving Miss Daisy in the cruiser unless I'm on a call. It's impossible to be aware of what's going on around you if you're driving like you're playing Grand Theft Auto.



Posted by: TopCop24

I couldn't agree with you anymore Delta



Posted by: WaterPistola

I think i saw him today on 95! he got off at the Newton Wellesley exit!



Posted by: rokurmthr61

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
I'm actually like Driving Miss Daisy in the cruiser unless I'm on a call. It's impossible to be aware of what's going on around you if you're driving like you're playing Grand Theft Auto.

Well maybe he thinks hes going to a call haha



Posted by: WaterPistola

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
I'm actually like Driving Miss Daisy in the cruiser unless I'm on a call. It's impossible to be aware of what's going on around you if you're driving like you're playing Grand Theft Auto.
Unless one of the assholes rams into you! sorry...one of the few games I love to play



Posted by: mtc

There's an older gent that drives a black/blackout Mercury Marauder, gets off at the Furnace Brook Parkway exit, and "drives like a cop" - up people's asses, high rate of speed, erratic lane changes... on and on.....

Damn near took me out a few times,,, must forget about those shiny reflective things on the side of his windows.....



Posted by: rokurmthr61

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtc View Post
There's an older gent that drives a black/blackout Mercury Marauder, gets off at the Furnace Brook Parkway exit, and "drives like a cop" - up people's asses, high rate of speed, erratic lane changes... on and on.....

Damn near took me out a few times,,, must forget about those shiny reflective things on the side of his windows.....
well pull his aass over or grab his license plate and but it up here we will find out who it is hahain a matter of minutes haha



Posted by: MM1799

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
For the few of our deathtraps that have made it directly to auction from police service, the mechanics simply took a can of bright-colored spray paint and made squiggly lines down the sides and on the hood/trunk. I don't know why the state doesn't do the same.
Now that's funny Delta! You have a better chance of seeing God in the flesh tomorrow than the state ever putting any extra effort before selling these shitboxes.

Do what you want but I honestly think it's humiliating enough to drive around a puke-encrusted, beat-to-hell decommissioned state police cruiser with the decals peeled off. If ANYONE (and I mean any single person) thinks it's a real police car with a real trooper in it then I'd be more worried about them than the idiot driving the car. Unless he/she is actually putting lights and "wacking" it out; just sit back and laugh at their pitiful existence.



Posted by: CarverD1

http://wbztv.com/watercooler/Transfo....2.677074.html


If everyone was like this guy we'd have a big problem.



Posted by: resqjyw0

Quote:
Originally Posted by CarverD1 View Post
http://wbztv.com/watercooler/Transfo....2.677074.html


If everyone was like this guy we'd have a big problem.
That was one of the points I was trying to make in my last post.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtc View Post
There's an older gent that drives a black/blackout Mercury Marauder, gets off at the Furnace Brook Parkway exit, and "drives like a cop" - up people's asses, high rate of speed, erratic lane changes... on and on.....
I know exactly who you mean, and he isn't nearly as old as you think. I wrote him for having a TBL front plate - 2 plate series.

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Originally Posted by MM1799 View Post
Now that's funny Delta! You have a better chance of seeing God in the flesh tomorrow than the state ever putting any extra effort before selling these shitboxes.
It wouldn't take more than 30 seconds and a can of day-glo green spraypaint.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799 View Post
Do what you want but I honestly think it's humiliating enough to drive around a puke-encrusted, beat-to-hell decommissioned state police cruiser with the decals peeled off. If ANYONE (and I mean any single person) thinks it's a real police car with a real trooper in it then I'd be more worried about them than the idiot driving the car. Unless he/she is actually putting lights and "wacking" it out; just sit back and laugh at their pitiful existence.
You seriously underestimate the cluelessness of the public. I had a woman ask me if that exact car was a police car, right before I said "No" and put a parking ticket on it for being in the fire lane at Walmart.



Posted by: Sniper

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtc View Post
There's an older gent that drives a black/blackout Mercury Marauder, gets off at the Furnace Brook Parkway exit, and "drives like a cop" - up people's asses, high rate of speed, erratic lane changes... on and on.....

Damn near took me out a few times,,, must forget about those shiny reflective things on the side of his windows.....
that the one with the beefy exhaust and tinted windows ???????



Posted by: SinePari

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
I know exactly who you mean, and he isn't nearly as old as you think. I wrote him for having a TBL front plate - 2 plate series.

You seriously underestimate the cluelessness of the public. I had a woman ask me if that exact car was a police car, right before I said "No" and put a parking ticket on it for being in the fire lane at Walmart.
YOU wrote a Ch 90 gig AND a parking ticket??? What the hell is this world coming too???



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari View Post
YOU wrote a Ch 90 gig AND a parking ticket??? What the hell is this world coming too???
The Ch 90 ticket was dismissed because I didn't realize we aren't using series "D" citations anymore.



Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
I'm actually like Driving Miss Daisy in the cruiser unless I'm on a call. It's impossible to be aware of what's going on around you if you're driving like you're playing Grand Theft Auto.
So you're saying you don't drive on the sidewalk and run over hookers??

Why even get out of bed in the morning?



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbelichick View Post
So you're saying you don't drive on the sidewalk and run over hookers??
Only on the way to a priority call.



Posted by: resqjyw0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Only on the way to a priority call.
Like picking up a meal for the prisoners.

"Received, Code 3 for the Unhappy meal."



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by resqjyw0 View Post
Like picking up a meal for the prisoners.

"Received, Code 3 for the Unhappy meal."
Oh yeah...don't want the prisoners to have cold food.



Posted by: mtc

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper View Post
that the one with the beefy exhaust and tinted windows ???????

Limo dark tint, and duel exhaust, nice chrome pipes, I dunno if it's "beefy" - but he hauls azz!

And Thanks Delta ! I'm only a civilian dispatcher, I can't pull people over, just BOLO the idiots.



Posted by: resqjyw0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Oh yeah...don't want the prisoners to have cold food.
Massachusetts, where criminals are coddled...



Posted by: GMACK24

some Guy in Rhode Island is driving around in a 96 painted up French and Electric Blue.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhodeis...7594134652637/





Posted by: Q5-TPR

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtc View Post
Limo dark tint, and duel exhaust, nice chrome pipes, I dunno if it's "beefy" - but he hauls azz!

And Thanks Delta ! I'm only a civilian dispatcher, I can't pull people over, just BOLO the idiots.
LOL, I know who you usually call, LOL



Posted by: mtc

LOL Greg! I did think of you!



Posted by: rg1283

YES! I've seen that car around Narragansant, and did a double take last year.

It has RI Plate PI-489



Posted by: Nightstalker

Quote:
Originally Posted by GMACK24 View Post
some Guy in Rhode Island is driving around in a 96 painted up French and Electric Blue.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rhodeis...7594134652637/

Thats fine... Let him stay in RI. Its clearly odd that someone wants to drive a cruiser for fun. At $3.20 /gallon its time to put the freak away and buy a real car.



Posted by: TopCop24

I wonder how many times that car will be queried by masscops members while they're working tonight.



Posted by: j809

I wonder how many times in that cruiser's career has a suspect pissed,shit,puked,bled and threw up in it. I can't understand why you would buy a used beat on 200K miles car when you can buy a new one on EBAY .



Posted by: CallingAllFuzz

pink paint from home Depot huh? hmmm. you know all about painting a car. ...



Posted by: Portable81

Go away.





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