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Posted by: kwflatbed

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez expects to sign a $1 billion contract next month for four brand-new Russian Kilo Class Type 636 submarines with $800 million financed by state-owned arms exporter Rosoboronexport.

The deal is expected to be finalized next month when Chavez goes to Moscow for Medvedev's inauguration.

Unlike nuke boats, the Kilos rely on diesel-electric power for propulsion so they must regularly operate on the surface or at snorkel-depth to run the diesels. Therefore, their operating capabilities are limited. Yet, they are sneaky bastards that could cause trouble by exploiting weaknesses. China operates two Type 636 submarines and Indonesia has two on order.

Kilo-Class Type 636 Submarine

The Type 636 is advertised as one of the quietest diesel boats in the world. It has a maximum diving depth of 900 feet and attains speeds of 11 knots surfaced and 20 knots submerged. The submarine can be fitted with cruise missiles (range 220 km) and it has six 533 mm torpedo tubes in the bow.

With the bulk of Venezuela's oil revenue being used to make the South American country into a socialist utopia, Chavez lacks cash for outright purchases and must finance his arms deals. Moscow and Caracas are coordinating the $1 billion funding for the submarines plus $500 million for Ilyushin Il-76 cargo aircraft. Also being discussed are contracts for a dozen or so Sukhoi fighters.

Interesting, there is a hint of reluctance on the part of the Russians regarding the financing of arms purchases.

A source in the Federal Military-Technical Cooperation Service said the lending of money to Indonesia for arms purchases had proven ineffective. He said Rosoboronexport could only finance arms manufacturing projects on Russian territory, and that Venezuela had to pay for personnel training, financing transport and insurance expenses and Rosoboronexport's commission fee.

So, even with his oil reserves, Chavez still has to qualify for a loan.

In any event, no reasoning has been disclosed as to why Venezuela needs submarines.

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Posted by: BB-59

Live targets for our NUke Boats!

Posted by: CJIS

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Originally Posted by BB-59

Live targets for our NUke Boats!

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by BB-59

Live targets for our NUke Boats!

Don't be so smug battleship-boy. With today's modern sonar suites and fire-control technology available, these boats are formidable adversaries.
Ever hear a D1G replacement core percolating in a 2nd generation 688 class fast attack? Well these are quieter, so don't be so dismissive of the threat. You surface-skimmer-sheriff-types are all alike, Yeesh!

Posted by: j809

Yes Woody but how does a Kilo fare against a Seawolf or Virginia Class? Kaboom!!!

You old geezer, we all know that the Kilos were the shi*t when you were in the Navy in the early 80s, late 70s.

Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

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Originally Posted by mpd61

Dont under estimate a bubblehead (MPD61) they know subs and seamen

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by j809

Yes Woody but how does a Kilo fare against a Seawolf or Virginia Class? Kaboom!!!

You old geezer, we all know that the Kilos were the shi*t when you were in the Navy in the early 80s, late 70s.

Yimmy!!!!
You armchair-aviation-anti-submarine expert you!
How many Seawolves and Virgins are gliding around out there? Kilo's with modern hardware ARE still the sh*t dude.
I bet if I put you in an F-15 today, and you had to face a Romanian Mig-21 in a dogfight, you'd start sweating a little wouldn't you?

Now stay up in the clouds with 40thMPOC and leave the "Death from below" issues to me fly-boy!

BTW...
It was the late 80's when I left active duty, and don't forget my recent service in the Navy Sea Cadets form 1998-2001 (LMFAO!!!)

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