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Posted by: CJIS

Guns That Look Like Toys

abcnews.go.com — A colorful gun maker gives firearms a candy-coated makeover.

Posted by: resqjyw0

They complement ASP's colored handcuffs rather well...

Posted by: PaulKersey

Great, they just did the police a favor. Now when you blast someone that was carrying a toy gun, you're all set. When the libs start crying that you should have known it was a toy, here you go.

Posted by: 94c

The NRA and GOAL should be speaking out against this.

It doesn't help their cause of responsible gun ownership.

It can only hurt it in the long run.

Posted by: rokurmthr61

haha im going to get a lime green ar15 haha that will solve the problem haha

Posted by: CJIS

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Originally Posted by resqjyw0

They complement ASP's colored handcuffs rather well...

Those things suck

Posted by: OCKS

The only thing Amy has right is that if you point something that looks like a gun towards a police officer you are going to get shot. Kersey is right when you get sued which you will, you can go into court with guns that look like toys and toys that look like guns.

Posted by: mcpd704

This is ridiculous, why the hell would anyone want to paint a gun any of those colors in the first place? unless they want to use it for the wrong reason? I can only see this causing problems!!

Posted by: Wolfman

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Originally Posted by 94c

The NRA and GOAL should be speaking out against this.

It doesn't help their cause of responsible gun ownership.

It can only hurt it in the long run.

That's about as absurd as saying cars should only come in one color. If I want to paint my AR blue, why should that be considered irresponsible? Where's the outcry against camo schemes on shotguns; it only makes them easier to hide?

This summer, I'm building an AR with my daughter for her to keep. If she wants it to be pink with a Kalashnikitty on the stock that's just fine with me.

I choose my own diet, I don't allow myself to be spoonfed by the likes of that gun grabbing douchebag Bloomburg and Good Morning America.

Posted by: paulgta

the bottom line is if you point a gun at someone don't be surprised if one gets pointed back at you way...

Posted by: Kem25

I am all for legal, lawful gun ownership but these guns are NUTS! This is the third time in a month I have seen a heads up about these guns....You can bet that somebody will be shot with one of these guns and people will be in an uproar.

Posted by: rokurmthr61

i wonder if they come in multi color gun cases haha

Posted by: pahapoika

some of those pictures are old. have seen them on other web sites. guys would post them joking about building their kid a new rifle or something silly like that.

Posted by: celticsfan

There are flyers all over our PD about these... bad bad bad.

Posted by: Wolfman

Unreal. I would hope that you guys had more sense than to jump on this ridiculous bandwagon. I don't give a rats ass what color a gun is, in the hands of a criminal it's no more or less dangerous than any other gun and anyone who would treat a lime green gun differently than a black or gray one is about as stupid as someone who wouldn't stop a speeding car just because it has a FPO or blue line sticker on its bumper. I'm still waiting for a lucid and believable reason why a gun with a paint job is "bad bad bad", NUTS" or should be arbitrarily regulated by law. Where are the seizures of multicolor guns from street thugs? How many incidents have occurred where some evil gang has painted their guns hot pink to strike fear into the hearts of their victims? Shit, it seems a day-glo orange gun would be easier to spot than a flat black one!

The only reason that this is pervading the media recently is directly attributable to the megalomaniac mayor of NYC Michael Bloomberg. The rights of the little people are meaningless to this power-hungry nitwit. Bloomberg is a rabid gun control nut who has millions upon millions of dollars to pour into lopsided press releases (in his own media outlets) and witch hunts to promote his own agenda. Even the pantywaist bible New York Times sees it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/04/ny...=1&oref=slogin

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In New York, Michael R. Bloomberg is known as the billionaire media mogul who became mayor. But in many parts of the country, he is the man who would take away your guns.

An editorial writer in Harrisburg, Pa., accuses him of “ranting” about illegal firearms. A conservative publication in Florida, NewsMax, asserts: “Bloomberg’s hatred of guns has twisted roots.” And on the Web site of The Wichita Eagle, one writer wonders why a New York mayor is “telling the people of Kansas what to do.”...
...The pushback has come not just from gun rights groups. The Justice Department has warned the Bloomberg administration about the legality of its sting operations. Virginia has already outlawed them, while Georgia is considering similar legislation. And at least four mayors have dropped out of the coalition, citing discomfort with the group’s tactics and concerns about potential infringement on gun rights.

I guess it's OK for millionaires like Bloomberg and Rosenthal to mastermind attempted felonies for their own purposes wihtout fear of reprisal. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

Yeah. I can see it now....some banger pianting his stolen pistol NOT. In any case I know if someones pointing anything at me that resembles a firearm, bazzoka or whatever, Im gonna be pointing something back until I know Im safe.

Posted by: Tuna

I can see a mistake being made with a "red gun" and one of these. There are idiots out there even in our chosen profession.

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by Kem25

I am all for legal, lawful gun ownership but these guns are NUTS! This is the third time in a month I have seen a heads up about these guns....You can bet that somebody will be shot with one of these guns and people will be in an uproar.

The NRA and GOAL should be speaking out against this.

It doesn't help their cause of responsible gun ownership.

It can only hurt it in the long run.

1. Kem25 you're right, somebody will be shot with one of these guns, and there will be no uproar. A SHOOTING is a violent crime and nobody gives a shit about the color. Blue/Black/Bright nickel/Green and gray parkerized guns have been around for decades. If the threat was present and articulated well, people are going to get shot with cell phones, lighters, and toy guns if their movements/actions justify it. With about 200 Million firearms in circulation, the recent anomoly of applying colored finishes to some is no cause for concern. We're trained to respond to threats with red and blue guns being aimed at us, so just keep TRAINING, not just qualifying, and go back to sleep.

2. 94c, Take a chill pill buddy. You're looking to impose your perception of a problem into your definition of "responsible" gun ownership. Think man, use your brain, not your heart-on-your-sleeve.

Posted by: rokurmthr61

it just means that we can shoot at anyone with some multi colored object in their hands lol

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

Anyone else remember m-16's made by Mattel?

Posted by: pahapoika

Anyone else remember m-16's made by Mattel?

it's swell because it's made by mattel

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by justanotherparatrooper

Anyone else remember m-16's made by Mattel?

Hey Jap!

You'll poop yourself when you see what they get for one on E-bay!

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

I dont mean the toy ones sold by Mattel in the 60's and 70's . When I was in basic my issue M-16 was manufactured by Mattel. I swear on my kids its true...and Im talking about the lower reciever not the furniture.

Posted by: kwflatbed

before that some of the m1's were made by rock-ola the company that made the juke boxes

Posted by: GreenMachine

Seems like opinions are divided on this one. My only concern would be the psychological delay of seeing a blue gun due to having trained with them knowing they are fake.

Posted by: Wolfman

Then the flaw is in the training, not the weapon.

Posted by: Killjoy

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I dont mean the toy ones sold by Mattel in the 60's and 70's . When I was in basic my issue M-16 was manufactured by Mattel. I swear on my kids its true...and Im talking about the lower reciever not the furniture.

Urban legend. Mattel never manufactured any components of the M16. Read The Black Rifle : M16 Retrospective, generally considered the definitive source about the M16 by gun nerds like me.

Posted by: jettsixx

I'm not quite sure how I feel about these guns. On the one hand I feel that you should have the freedom to choose what color you want. But on the other hand we all know that not every gun owner is responsible with thier firearm and I think making the bright colors could attract children to them even more so than the traditional black or silver colors.
Just my $.02

Posted by: Inspector71

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Originally Posted by jettsixx

I think making the bright colors could attract children to them even more so than the traditional black or silver colors.
Just my $.02

Really??????

Posted by: Wolfman

rally cry of the gun grabbers..."it's for the children!"

Posted by: jettsixx

You dont think that the second a kid gets ahold of one of these the anti gun people are going to have field day? Like I said though I also feel that you should have the right to have what ever color gun you want. Like has been said earlier I dont care what color it is if you point it at me, expect to have one pointed back at you.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

I see what your saying Jettsixx but it really doesnt matter. From officer safety youve already got it covered as far aswhat the anti=gun people say it just dont matter. They already want to ban guns because theyre black, to powerful, not powerful enough, cheap, expensive, to big, too small...what ever

Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by jettsixx

You dont think that the second a kid gets ahold of one of these the anti gun people are going to have field day? Like I said though I also feel that you should have the right to have what ever color gun you want. Like has been said earlier I dont care what color it is if you point it at me, expect to have one pointed back at you.

If someone values their kid's life, they would either educate the kid about guns, lock the guns up until the kid can be trusted, or both. Actually in this state, it needs to be locked up unless it is under the person's direct control.

As far as pointing a gun at me, regardless of color, you get one quick warning. If compliance is not met instantly, expect shots fired. I can't react quick enough when the other side has already shot at me.

Posted by: Slimer

Hmmmmm let see how dose it go. I would ratrher be judged by 12 then carried by six, silver,red,green, black or blue if it's a real gun I will shoot you too!

Posted by: Mstr.Gunz.

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Originally Posted by jettsixx

as far as kids go, if a child picks up a firearm due to the color, then the kid is probably too young to even be handling a firearm. Therefor, the gun should be either locked up or under the direct supervision/control of the gun owner or someone else responsible enough to be handling it. So they can be classified as an 'irresponsible gun owner' which doesnt apply to the rest of us. So that puts us back to square one.

As someone else said earlier, if an officer's reaction to an object is impared due to the color of the firearm, then the training is the problem not the firearm. And now that citizens can have firearms painted in all kinds of colors and patterns, its all the more reason and justification for an officer to hold a gun to someone with anything in their hand and not drop their sights until the object is confirmed to be non-dangerous.

the only ones I see that should be concerned is the officers on duty who are more 'social' per se than others. Those who havent had training for a while and/or are more trusting and forgiving to the average citizen might assume there is no threat when they see, for example, a small pink object is a females hand. Especially with all the gadgets females and, unfortunately, some males carry on their person from makeup, jewelery, accessories, cell phones, etc. (I don't specialize in these fields sorry for the lack of specifications). Will an incident occur in such specific or similar conditions? probably not often, if ever... but never say never.

Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by Mstr.Gunz.

Those who havent had training for a while and/or are more trusting and forgiving to the average citizen might assume there is no threat when they see, for example, a small pink object is a females hand. Especially with all the gadgets females and, unfortunately, some males carry on their person from makeup, jewelery, accessories, cell phones, etc.

Like this chase that ended with the guy getting pumped full of lead because he was holding his cell phone in a manner that looked like a gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruQmcQgolM0

There are two unedited videos posted on the net that show the incident from two angles, which I bet are posted here somewhere that don't edit out the guy getting shot. I just can't find them at the moment.

Posted by: Mstr.Gunz.

well not even that, I'm talking about something more casual when the suspect pretends its Not a weapon. Thats when I think some officers may assume its not a threat, when they see a color not of a typical firearm in their hand.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

Till I SEE both open palms...its a weapon!

Posted by: jettsixx

JAP that is a very good point.

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