Wire service| Well.... I'll go out on a limb and say that Massachusetts is probably at the other end of the scale from states like Texas. "Texas is Texas: We are a state that has firearms," said Bill Taylor, chief of police at Rice University, which has sworn and armed officers. "If you don't have firearms on campus, what are the campus police going to do if somebody shows up with a weapon?" |
| Rhode Island won't even arm their state schools. Brown fought for YEARS, no DECADES to get firearms and just got them about two years ago. There's no restriction outside the individual school admins that prevent a college PD from carrying. As far as what to do without a gun, do what they used to do at Brown. Duck under the car and call the locals. Once the shooting stops, go and see who lived and needs help. Smartest move to make if unarmed. Evasive Action! |
| Rhode Island was the last state in the nation to have any armed campus police officers and that is just one school that is armed Brown. |
| The fact that this state has legislation that accodomates both state and private schools puts it ahead of alot of states. That doesn't mean that their isn't room for improvement. It would be nice to see the MPTC be a little more endearing with training opportunities and the addition of CH 90 in SSPO legislation would be nice but overall it seems like many of the individual colleges hold their own departments back more so than the state itself. |
| We're actually not bad off compared to a lot of other states, not to say things are rosy here so no, I don't have my glasses on at this time. Plenty of states won't even allow a private college/university to have a PD. Also, though there's no REAL training level requirement, there is a decent amount of training offered. Even California has only a few colleges that have powers and that's through a local concern. |
| Acording to the University of the Pacific PD's website: "Pacific is only one of two private universities in California whose officers have full police officer powers. Pursuant to a memorandum of understanding with the City of Stockton and the Stockton Police Department, Pacific officers receive and maintain state-mandated training standards. Though they are able to use their police officer powers off campus, their main jurisdiction is the Stockton campus." The opther appears to be Stanford University: "Stanford Deputy Sheriffs derive their peace officer powers through an agreement between Stanford University and the Sheriff of Santa Clara County. While on-duty, Stanford deputies have full law enforcement powers to make arrests, enforce all applicable federal, state, and local laws and provide any other law enforcement services pursuant to section 830.6 of the California Penal Code. The training received by Stanford deputies meets California State standards for full-function Peace Officers. The training program includes twenty-four (24) weeks of police academy training, and a minimum of sixteen (16) weeks of supervised field training, followed by a continuous regimen of inservice, specialty, and advanced training." Looks like for Private institutions, CA is tough for PD's, but for State institutions they are nuts. Hell, some of them even have fulltime FD's...not that we care about them. |
| csauce, nice research. I know as far as the state schools go, they're at the top of the field, but private-wise, they're mostly security with the 'power to detain' and hardly any private schools have firearms. I know UofSF is progressive as hell (I've got a photo of a bunch of those guys from the early 80s, armed back then and everything) as is USC. The private schools are very professional, but lack the powers and equipment that even in Mass. is available, though not issued often enough. You did a hell of a job on that list and it's obvious you know what you're talking about. |
| Any estimate on the percent of campus police that carry in Massachusetts ? I know of some private and state colleges that do, are they the minority ? What reason is given for your department not being armed ? |
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