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What do Auxiliary police Officers carry?

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Posted by: hunter617

What type of iteams do Auxiliary Police officers carry? Baton, Cuffs, OC Spray ect.



Posted by: reno911_2004

That completely depends on the policy of the department you work for.



Posted by: hunter617

The Cambridge Auxilliary Police Department



Posted by: Gil

The Attleboro Auxiliary Police Unit carries a full duty belt, cuffs, oc, asp etc... the authorized weapons are 38's or 357's 4 inch barrel with 38 +P rounds. There was talk of giving them our old Glocks when we went to Sigs a few months ago but that never happened.

When I was on the aux unit I carried a Ruger GP100 357 Mag

I checked their site [ http://www.rescuecenter.net/capd1.html ] and did not see anything on it, I guess most would assume that they carry the basics. The only department that I can recall that has a limited duty belt is Waltham. I don't remember exactly what they carry but I believe that they are not armed.



Posted by: Channy1984

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I checked their site [ http://www.rescuecenter.net/capd1.html ] and did not see anything on it, I guess most would assume that they carry the basics. The only department that I can recall that has a limited duty belt is Waltham. I don't remember exactly what they carry but I believe that they are not armed.
If you have your LTC they can call you up for armed emergency details, But for the most part it's only oc spray and handcuffs. I did hear that they are trying to get back the arrest powers and go armed but that might take a while.



Posted by: Badge 2

Randolph Auxiliary carries the same as the full timers Glock 22's.



Posted by: Wiggum_1

Waltham Auxiliary Police Officers aren't armed or batons, we just have OC. We also carry cuffs but that is to assist the FT Officers if they need an extra set ( We don't have arrest powers either).



Posted by: JoninNH

Last I knew, Lawrence Aux. PD Officers could be armed after the R/I academy and quallifying on the range. Privately owned 9mm autos only.



Posted by: Foxracingmtnridr

In Somerville we carry a full duty rig. Cuffs, OC, 14" Baton if you choose to. And we have Dept Issued S&W 6946 9MM Same as the regulars. Mostly just Sergeants are armed we have 1 Patrol Officer armed right now. They only give us a limited number of weapons to use which kinda stinks.
The Regular Dept. has a new Chief and the Aux Director is now the Deputy Chief so we may be getting better stuff, We hope. We'll see though.

Scott



Posted by: Wannabe1

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In Somerville we carry a full duty rig. Cuffs, OC, 14" Baton if you choose to. And we have Dept Issued S&W 6946 9MM Same as the regulars. Mostly just Sergeants are armed we have 1 Patrol Officer armed right now. They only give us a limited number of weapons to use which kinda stinks.
The Regular Dept. has a new Chief and the Aux Director is now the Deputy Chief so we may be getting better stuff, We hope. We'll see though.

Scott
I wouldn't hold your breath too long with that one.



Posted by: Foxracingmtnridr

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In Somerville we carry a full duty rig. Cuffs, OC, 14" Baton if you choose to. And we have Dept Issued S&W 6946 9MM Same as the regulars. Mostly just Sergeants are armed we have 1 Patrol Officer armed right now. They only give us a limited number of weapons to use which kinda stinks.
The Regular Dept. has a new Chief and the Aux Director is now the Deputy Chief so we may be getting better stuff, We hope. We'll see though.

Scott
I wouldn't hold your breath too long with that one.
I know, I'm not.
I've been there 2 1/2 years so I know how it works. It's better to be Optimistic then Pessimistic.
Plus the regular Dept is going through alot of changes.

Scott



Posted by: RPD931

Natick Auxiliary - OC and cuffs. Although they may have batons now, not sure. NO police powers.

Maynard Auxiliary (Specials) - they have the full boat of gear (armed) and full police powers.



Posted by: ejk55

Does Billerica have Auxiliary Police Officers?



Posted by: Philly

yes, but we are called Emergency Management Police



Posted by: ejk55

Is it a volunteer position? Are you eligible for paid details?



Posted by: Philly

its all volunteer



Posted by: looseScrew

Ashland Police auxiliaries carry a full duty belt, including any type of gun they want to carry and buy. They ride shot gun with full timers and do get paid details.



Posted by: ejk55

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Ashland Police auxiliaries carry a full duty belt, including any type of gun they want to carry and buy. They ride shot gun with full timers and do get paid details.
That is what I am looking for. What other towns are similar to this?



Posted by: looseScrew

To tell you the truth, I don't think many town treat auxiliaries as good as we do. Our Chief is from New Hampshire and they use allot of auxiliaries.



Posted by: Philly

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Ashland Police auxiliaries carry a full duty belt, including any type of gun they want to carry and buy. They ride shot gun with full timers and do get paid details.
That is what I am looking for. What other towns are similar to this?
We carry a full duty belt, 9mm or 40 cal. We do not ride with the full timers. We have our own patrol cars, and patrol town owned property.



Posted by: ejk55

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Ashland Police auxiliaries carry a full duty belt, including any type of gun they want to carry and buy. They ride shot gun with full timers and do get paid details.
That is what I am looking for. What other towns are similar to this?
We carry a full duty belt, 9mm or 40 cal. We do not ride with the full timers. We have our own patrol cars, and patrol town owned property.
That sounds like a good gig, however I am looking to be able to do paid details. I am a full time screw and wanted to make some extra cash during the day. How often does Billerica hire the emergency management police officers?



Posted by: JoninNH

If you're looking for paid details, I might suggest you look at getting hired as a part-timer or as a special police officer... most auxiliary officers are NOT paid for detail work.



Posted by: RPD931

E,

I believe Lincoln may have a Specials/Aux program. If I can think of any up in your neck of the woods, I'll let you know.



Posted by: Wiggum_1

EJK55, Waltham Auxiliaries are allowed to work paid details after training and a probationary period. We patrol city owned buildings, schools, and parks in our own crusuers. We have very good relations with the regular department



Posted by: Jasper

just curious... if you patrol municipal property such as parks, etc and see something that should be addressed, do Auxillary officers handle it or call the police ? do teens, etc blow you off or respect the auxilary force and obey you ? do the Regulars feel that the volunteers are a p.i.t.a ? do you assist as a back up to the regular officers ? what is the difference between a "special" and an "auxillary" officer ? I thought both of those jobs were being eliminated by most departments....



Posted by: chowder

We give are Aux. nothing but a old patrol car which they manage to drive around with 5 guys cramped into. But I shutter at the thought of them getting anything else. It sounds like all these other depts. have a much better structured Aux. Unit.. Are Aux. unit only does voluntary traffic details at big events or serious incidents when the patrol units are tied up. And even then they screw things up and usually end up getting hit by cars (AND I AM NOT JOKING ABOUT GETTING HIT).



Posted by: Muggsy09

I've only seen them one time but Fall River aux. I believe has everything but a firearm. Taunton aux doesn't exsist anymore thanks to a couple a dildos back in the day.



Posted by: HousingCop

Chowder,
Buddy, do yourself a favor, use spellcheck please. It's called "our Auxiliary", not "are Auxiliary" and "shudder", not "shutter. A shutter is something one closes over a window or is a part of a camera. Far be it for me to be a spellcheck Nazi, but for guys like you, it's made for.

You seem to like making fun of the Auxiliary officers in your town on an open forum, when you yourself write like an illiterate hillbilly from the Berkshires. Hillbilly High must be proud of it's finest "gradgeate". Obviously you're an MCAS disaster.

Put down your banjo, get in your cruiser and drive over to the "liberry" and get yourself a phonics and English grammer book. You obviously need 8 hours per day to study.

On Masscops, it's better to stay silent and be thought of as a fool, then to write an idiotic & rambling post and remove all doubt. Nuff said. HC



Posted by: Foxracingmtnridr

HousingCop,
You should have finished that post with a nice loud Ohh OHHHHHHH Sam Kinison style.



Scott



Posted by: HousingCop

Scott,
What else can be said about chowderHEAD? He obviously has an axe to grind with the Auxies in his town. He types an inarticulate and derogatory posting with numerous mistakes and expects nobody to pick up on it?

I checked chowderHEAD's other massive 4 postings and they all seemed to be grammatically correct which made me immediately suspect that he is a spellcheck master and he forgot to do this one particular post.

I don't like to bash anyone on here (yeah right) but when some farkin dope comes on and bashes others while leaving his ass hanging out of his trousers, then I step up to the plate and bat away.

Best thing chowderHEAD could do is go in and edit the post to just say.. "I am an idiot. I didn't mean to post bad things about the Auxies in my town. That's not what this post is about". Take his 40 lashes with a wet noodle & call it a day. HC



Posted by: RCPD33

I am on the Malden Auxiliary Dept. We are a small and slowly growing department that consist of a Director, Chief, 1 Captain, 1 LT., 2 Sergeants and 4 Patrolmen. We are all sworn in and appointed by the Commisioner of Police for the City. We carry whatever we want, but must pay for our own sidearm. As long as you have the R I/ Academy at minimum, they allow you to carry. We also carry a full duty belt (o.c., cuffs, straight baton, etc.). We are fully a volunteer organization and do not get paid details. We direct traffic during special events. We can do patrols on a regular basis if we have a vehicle available to use. We did have our own cruiser, but at some point it broke down, was sent to the city yard (that's where the garage is as well) and subsequently stripped of the siren, radio and other pretty important pieces of equipment. The cruiser sat that way for some time, as the Auxiliary department fell victim to crooked management and shady happenings (ex Chief ran off with budget funds supposedly). Since the new Chief was appointed as well as a new Director (an MFD LT), they have tried to get things back in order somewhat. It has taken a year and a half, but we have just received another cruiser of our own again which is formerly a Supervisor's marked car from the regular force. Our current Chief definately has our best interest at heart, but is a bit gun shy due to what the previous administration put the department through, which also caused strained relations with some of the brass up above. Slowly that upper brass is moving on and we are gaining momentum and strength through developing good relations for the most part with the regulars. Bottom line, as long as your not a cowboy, you'll do well by and for the department overall. We are currently looking for GOOD people and NOT cowboys! Any other questions, PM me and I'll be glad to answer them.



Posted by: CivilServiceNO1Fan

RCPD, I am interested in finding out more about Malden. but cannot PM you. Are they accepting applications now? How are the relations between the aux and full timers?



Posted by: Pacman

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Originally Posted by Jasper
just curious... if you patrol municipal property such as parks, etc and see something that should be addressed, do Auxillary officers handle it or call the police ? do teens, etc blow you off or respect the auxilary force and obey you ? do the Regulars feel that the volunteers are a p.i.t.a ? do you assist as a back up to the regular officers ? what is the difference between a "special" and an "auxillary" officer ? I thought both of those jobs were being eliminated by most departments....
Auxiliaries handle it, barring any officer safety issues. If they observe/witness something, they contact dispatch and a full time officer will respond. As with any dept. there are some that think Aux's are a pain in the ass. There are almost forty former Aux's in the full time ranks now, most of us have no issue with the Aux's. As far as backing us up, no they don't. They aren't armed, and are only issued oc and handcuffs. Both to be used only under strict circumstances. I believe that they should at least have batons.



Posted by: RCPD33

Civil,
You can go into the Malden Police station @ 200 Pleasant Street during the day and ask for an Auxiliary Police application. That is if you can get one of the ladies attention behind the glass and they're done reading their newspaper or gossiping or whatever they do. Insist that the applications are there, even if they try to tell you they aren't. They are actively recruiting and the applications are at or under the counter. Go to the window on the right, stay away from the left side if at all possible. If you're lucky, a policeman or woman will be walking by and can assist you.

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Auxiliaries handle it, barring any officer safety issues. If they observe/witness something, they contact dispatch and a full time officer will respond. As with any dept. there are some that think Aux's are a pain in the ass. There are almost forty former Aux's in the full time ranks now, most of us have no issue with the Aux's. As far as backing us up, no they don't. They aren't armed, and are only issued oc and handcuffs. Both to be used only under strict circumstances. I believe that they should at least have batons.

We do the same at Malden somewhat. We are to observe and report to dispatch if we see anything. We act as instructed and have been asked to pull cars over on rare occasions, depending on the infraction. We are to respond to ALL Officer in trouble calls, as we are all armed and have to qualify under the same standards as the regulars. Relationship wise, as long as you're not a cowboy and the regulars see that, you'll be OK. We have developed a good working relationship with most of the regulars, but that has taken alot of time and alot of shit taking. Some of the older cops as always still do not and never will like or respect us and that's OK. The Auxiliary department for the most part is made up of people over or about 40, who have blown their load with the police thing and this is just a way to stay involved in the business, because you like it. You have to take the position for what it is and respect it and all of the hard work that has gone on to get it where it is. Five younger people (under 30) were hired last year and out of the five, two remain. Again, cowboys need not apply!



Posted by: EXTRACOP

Im a fall river aux. we only carry expandable batons and cuff . Its enough most of the time. We can do paided details but have to be made constables for the city. Its overly complicated



Posted by: rg1283

Westwood Auxillary Police only carry Cuffs and OC as far as I know. I have seen Westwood Auxillary Officers work details before.

Newton Auxillary Police I think carry the same and maybe batons.



Posted by: ogzee28

Wayland Auxiliary Officers carry the same as the full timers. ASP expandable baton, OC, cuffs and the Glock model 23 in 40 S&W.

Great unit and excellent opportunity for learning from some really great full time officers. I am a little bias in this matter.

Later
Ogzee28



Posted by: Opie

Mansfield Aux/Reserve look exactly the same as the Regular Ofc's, the only way to differentiate is by the badge number. Regulars low, Reserves High. Good and Bad, but we've weeded out our wackers and it works to our advantage at the Tweeter Ctr. They are also issued the same weapons as us, Glock 23 .40 w/ full duty belt. Just recently also issued them take home portable radios w/ chargers.



Posted by: ferus fidelitas

I'm surprised that places like Attleboro,Waltham, Malden, Natick and Fall River still have or use Auxiliary officers.. we never had auxiliary officers and did away with P.I's about 15 yrs ago.. too many inexperienced yahoos creating problems due to lack of experience and training. I'm curious as to what percentage of police departments in Massachusetts stili use P.I.'s and auxiliary officers.... seems like a huge liability for a municipality to absorb..



Posted by: EXTRACOP

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Originally Posted by ferus fidelitas
I'm surprised that places like Attleboro,Waltham, Malden, Natick and Fall River still have or use Auxiliary officers.. we never had auxiliary officers and did away with P.I's about 15 yrs ago.. too many inexperienced yahoos creating problems due to lack of experience and training. I'm curious as to what percentage of police departments in Massachusetts stili use P.I.'s and auxiliary officers.... seems like a huge liability for a municipality to absorb..
Huge liability is an under statement , but citys like fall river have to many special events for the regulars to take care of on their own. festivals, feasts, parades, ect. happen every weekend for nine mouths out of the year.It's just a man power issue.
The main thing is that the voters are happy.



Posted by: tkmn204

Happy voters makes a happy Lt. you know what I mean EXTRACOP!!



Posted by: EXTRACOP

oh yes! happy LT. is a very good thing!



Posted by: masscopguy

If you are an Auxiliary in Mansfield or the surronding towns can you work paid details at the Tweeter Center? Or do those towns hire part timers for all those details?

Medford has a Special Police Department, they are all volunteer do not work paid details and carry firearms.
They tend to be over the age of 45+. They patrol city owned buildings in their own cruiser and are very visable directing traffic during parade season.



Posted by: TacOps

They usually carry m16's and an RPG strapped to their back.



Posted by: jeepn95

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Originally Posted by rg1283
Westwood Auxillary Police only carry Cuffs and OC as far as I know. I have seen Westwood Auxillary Officers work details before.

Newton Auxillary Police I think carry the same and maybe batons.
Yea, in Newton we carry O.C., cuffs and expandable batons...



Posted by: BigE515

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Originally Posted by TacOps
They usually carry m16's and an RPG strapped to their back.
No, they leave those in the trunks of their 'personal cruisers.' I was with an Auxialry Dept. for 5 years, I had hoped to use it as a stepping stone towards a full time career, not to get a uniform and a badge to add a few inches "somewhere." It was a great department, they actually did background checks and applicants were interviewed by 5-8 of the "Higher Ups", there was a 6 month probationary period then you were sent to the R/I Academy. After successfully completing the Academy you were allowed to carry a firearm, along with expandable baton and OC after completing a course with a LICENSED Instructor. They had a good thing going, then they expected you to treat it like a second full time job, one problem....you didn't get paid. The hiring process became a joke, anyone that could sign a credit card receipt was hired. We had a patrolman back a cruiser into a civilian vehicle then leave the scene, another officer mouthing off to a Selectman, officers harassing kids hanging out at basketball courts at schools-telling them they aren't allowed on school property even though its not after dusk and the kids are doing nothing wrong. Which just pushed the kids into doing something wrong like comeback later and put a brick through a school window, overweight officers were allowed to ride the mountain bikes without taking or passing the COBWEB training. Which is probably what prompted a civilian to call the local paper and in a "Talk Back" section ask, "I've noticed a lot of our Police officers are extremely out of shape. Don't they have to pass a physical test before being hired?" As I type this more and more ridiculous ignorant crap that happened there comes to mind but, you get the point. There are a lot of good people there too, that have put a lot of time and work into that department. For their sake, I hope things have changed and their hard work and extreme patience has paid off but things did not look good and there was no sign of anything changing. So, rather than have some yahoo that has no intention of ever trying to become a full time officer, in any field in law enforcement, ruin the resume I built up there.... I figured it was best that I leave before I'm in a cruiser with the "Farva" that's going to let his lack of training, and in some cases inteligence, make all the officers in town look bad or even worse result in someone getting hurt.



Posted by: Opie

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Originally Posted by masscopguy
If you are an Auxiliary in Mansfield or the surronding towns can you work paid details at the Tweeter Center? Or do those towns hire part timers for all those details?

Medford has a Special Police Department, they are all volunteer do not work paid details and carry firearms.
They tend to be over the age of 45+. They patrol city owned buildings in their own cruiser and are very visable directing traffic during parade season.
Mansfield Aux Ofc's are allowed to work paid details, just not paid patrol shifts. They only get called after all of the regular ofc's have been asked, both in and out of town. So they get to work both tweeter and gillette stadium gigs. Mansfield and Foxboro depend on their aux ofc's for those two venues.





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