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Posted by: kparr15

Why are state cops always so mean???

The other day I got pulled over for doing "87" even though I was definatly only going 74 according to my GPS. On the ticket he marked off lidar and estimated. Is it possible that his laser radar picked up a different speed because of the direction I was coming from because I NEVER do 87 on 495 (especially considering I got a speeding ticket on this same route a year ago when I was going 77 and was cited for just that).

I'm not saying I wasn't speeding but I certainly wasn't going as fast as recorded. Plus everytime I have EVER gotten pulled over before (my car has tinted windows) local cops are always very nice and just tell me to fix my headlight or watch the limit.

Should I bother contesting this?!? Please help!!!

Posted by: 5-0

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Posted by: KozmoKramer

KParr - I was having a really rough day,thank you so much for posting this....
My day is about to get so much better...

Posted by: kwflatbed

Ahhh Fresh Meat

Posted by: Gil

The estimated check box is just a quick way of saying "the vehicle appeared to be traveling faster than the speed posted" the lidar check box is just a quick way of saying "your fu*&!"

As far as contesting it, that's a no brainer... ALWAYS contest!

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

Oh ABSOLUTELY contest it as far as you can. Bring your GPS to court as evidence to show the judge. Obviously you were totally aware of your speed and that you were flagrently violating the law by "doing 74" in a 65. I'll bet you a donut that the Trooper wouldnt even listen to you either...Theyre so rude!

Posted by: BPD3352

If you didn't buy your piece of shit GPS at Wal-mart you wouldn't be in this bind right now would you. Maybe if the windows wern't so dark you would see the Trooper on the side of the road. Everyother cops tells you to fix, slowdown, ect....how many friggin chances do you expect???

Oh you forgot to put another option on the poll...

x Stick it up your ass

Posted by: cmagryan

'Why are state cops always so mean???

'

- and by 'mean' that would be? He/she didn't ask you to dance? Give you a small gift? Offer to buy you lunch?? Oh, the horror.

- Thankfully the locals are so sweet!

Posted by: MM1799

LIDAR is vehicle specific. It was your vehicle clocked at 87; end of story.
LIDAR is accurate and precise. The trooper sets up in a stationary position and observes traffic. He/she visually estimates speeds and when their estimation is above the speed limit, he/she will point the LIDAR device at the vehicle getting an accurate speed reading. Taffic stop intiated, conversation ensues and citation is issued. Next...

There was no mistake. The end.

Posted by: NPD108

What you SHOULD have done was make the same argument on the road with the Trooper, about how your GPS knows far better about whether or not you speed. Then you should have torn up the ticket and thrown it at him while laughing and peeled out, only to go 86 mph the rest of the way home because you will never learn and you are SO IMPORTANT and BUSY. How dare he stop you. Thats all I have to say about that...

Posted by: kparr15

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Originally Posted by NPD108

What you SHOULD have done was make the same argument on the road with the Trooper, about how your GPS knows far better about whether or not you speed. Then you should have torn up the ticket and thrown it at him while laughing and peeled out, only to go 86 mph the rest of the way home because you will never learn and you are SO IMPORTANT and BUSY. How dare he stop you. Thats all I have to say about that...

I never said I was "important". I am asking a simple question. My tinted windows CAME with my car when I bought it I am a student and therefore have little money to pay for just the right car and the only reason I was stating their existance is because it seems to be a magnet for sketchiness.

You probably have passive aggressive tendencies am I correct? Are you a "yes but.." person? Expressing aggression online is not the healthiest outlet. Try focusing on what REALLY makes you mad and don't pick on people that have nothing to do with it. I never said I wasn't wrong for speeding I just said that the speed picked up was likely accurate from my NON-WALMART GPS. And I just wanted information on the accuracy of these lidar detectors bc I don't want to contest something that is supposidly "accurate".. though I know enough about physics to know that the only true accurate reading is upon passing and the cop was in front... not behind me.

Posted by: resqjyw0

Tip - to avoid speeding tickets, don't speed. One can accurately determine one's speed by having a properly working GPS that relies on satellites that are hundreds of miles away.

You think the Trooper was mean. I think you're soft.

BTW-I picked "Cry on Masscops for help" but I see that you didn't need my advice to do that... You seem reluctant to pay it since you feel so confident that you have everything figured out. Logic says to appeal it. So why are you here, again?

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

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Originally Posted by resqjyw0

Tip - to avoid speeding tickets, don't speed. One can accurately determine one's speed by having a properly working GPS that relies on satellites that are hundreds of miles away.

You think the Trooper was mean. I think you're soft.

BTW-I picked "Cry on Masscops for help" but I see that you didn't need my advice to do that... You seem reluctant to pay it since you feel so confident that you have everything figured out. Logic says to appeal it. So why are you here, again?

...theres also that little dohicky thing infront of the steering wheel that has numbers on it

Posted by: kparr15

The warnings were for headlights and brakelights that had gone out bc the dealership i got my car from neglected to replace the bulbs with factory bulbs and I didn't realize until getting pulled over. I was only speeding once through a town and the officer was very nice because he actually ASKED why i was speeding... We are all human you know? It's not an US vs THEM world..

Posted by: andy0921

Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by justanotherparatrooper

...theres also that little dohicky thing infront of the steering wheel that has numbers on it

Psh...who would use that thing when a top of the line GPS could tell you. Afterall, its costs several hundred dollars so it must be dead on, right?

Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by kparr15

Why are state cops always so mean???

All razzing aside...

Depending on the GPS you have, the shelf life for calibration is only good for about a year.

In other words, after the one year mark the company no longer stands by the accuracy of it's product.

Bring the box and any proof of purchase (must include the date within the one year time frame) to the hearing.

Present it to the magistrate. You really have nothing to lose.

Unfortunately, magistrates are not that receptive to this.
Some will even smirk at you.

You'd have to appeal it and get it in front of a judge if you're looking for positive results.

Posted by: kparr15

Well I know the some ppl at the milford district court which is where I got pulled over. I take people to court there for bouncing checks so maybe they'll be nice to me

Posted by: NPD108

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Originally Posted by kparr15

I wasn't expressing aggression, I was making fun of you. Happens a lot here I swear. Sorry I offended you, but what did you expect? And saying you were "too important" or whatever it was is something I say to everyone that drives extremely fast. It wasn't directed specifically at you.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

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Originally Posted by kparr15

Well I know the some ppl at the milford district court which is where I got pulled over. I take people to court there for bouncing checks so maybe they'll be nice to me

Is this Sniper? playin troll?

Posted by: Sniper

kparr. send me a message with your ticket info. I might be able to help you. I used to clean the bathroom in the Judges lounge at Milford Courthouse before I got this better job. I got stopped once going to my new job in Marlborough. Stupid statie laughed when I showed him my security badge. I explained I was late for work but he didnt care. He even threatened to charge me with impersonating because I was driving in my uniform in the left lane with my Crown Victoria. Must be against the law to own a Crown Vic in Mass if you arent a cop. SHEESH.

Posted by: NPD108

Posted by: mpr4601

Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by kparr15

My tinted windows CAME with my car when I bought it...

Oh. Then it MUST be legal.

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Originally Posted by kparr15

Try focusing on what REALLY makes you mad and don't pick on people that have nothing to do with it.

I know it's hard to believe, since you're a psychologist and all, but YOU piss me off. Analyze that!

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Originally Posted by kparr15

And I just wanted information on the accuracy of these lidar detectors bc I don't want to contest something that is supposidly "accurate".. though I know enough about physics to know that the only true accurate reading is upon passing and the cop was in front... not behind me.

See, I told you. You know it all. So what does it matter what we tell you?

Anyone else getting PM's from this douche?

Posted by: screamineagle

I love this site.

Posted by: NPD108

Shockingly no, not yet at least. And I'm the one upset the douche enough the make that comment you just quote and destroyed lol

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by kparr15

Well I know the some ppl at the milford district court which is where I got pulled over. I take people to court there for bouncing checks so maybe they'll be nice to me

As a new guy you're going to get a lot of grief on this site. Especially after you got a ticket.

Take it with a grain of salt.

Just look for the proof of purchase and make sure you don't get fluffed off at court. If you do, then just make sure you can get this in front of a judge.

Good Luck...

Posted by: resqjyw0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNCWqIoi1JY

Next time you get stopped for speeding, when the Officer asks you if you know why you were pulled over, make sure you say "I'm speedin, I can't stop it's all I know." Then you say "I am german.. i am used to driving fast and not being penalized for it," you know, just like you told me. I bet he'll understand and let you off on a warning.

Posted by: misconceived

Kparr has a vagina 94c.

I suppose I won't make her a "Hutch" because of this... yet.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

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Originally Posted by misconceived

Kparr has a vagina 94c.

I suppose I won't make her a "Hutch" because of this... yet.

This is going south fast!

Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by misconceived

Kparr has a vagina 94c.

I suppose I won't make her a "Hutch" because of this... yet.

In that case, I'll have to re-type my advice...

But slower.

Posted by: Wolfman

Isn't it obvious that none of this is her fault? The lidar's fucked up, the GPS let her down, the dealer forgot to put bulbs in her taillights, it's someone else's tint...

Tell ya what - if you haven't yet reproduced and promise you'll get sterilized, we'll take up a collection and pay your ticket. Just make sure the imebecilic whining bloodline ends here.

Posted by: NPD108

Ouch..

Posted by: USMCMP5811

Quote:

Originally Posted by kparr15

The warnings were for headlights and brakelights that had gone out bc the dealership i got my car from neglected to replace the bulbs with factory bulbs and I didn't realize until getting pulled over. I was only speeding once through a town and the officer was very nice because he actually ASKED why i was speeding... We are all human you know? It's not an US vs THEM world..

Ahhhhh, this speaks highly of your intelligence.....Factory bulbs huh? that explains all. Maybe they forgot to put winter air in your tires and you were low on blinker fluid and that caused the descrepancies in your GPS read out as well as your speedometer.....better go check that out with the dealer so you can bring that to court with you because it OBVIOUSLY wasn't your fault.

Posted by: Gil

94c I take it you only get paid at the judge appeal level and not the magistrate level lol. Good advice either way

Posted by: Killjoy

This is almost too painful to read...almost...

Posted by: 60chevy

Here's a hint pay it and slow down. This isn't a real brainer.

Posted by: mtc

Hunny -

The staties on 495 are mean because we pay them extra for it!

After their quotas are met, they get additional points for meanness, rudeness, and a bonus round if you complain!

Silly girl, we know it's not your fault, you take bad checks and know people at Milford court.

When you're that special, they're EXTRA MEAN !!!!!

Posted by: NPD108

Whoa whoa whoa who let the LOGICAL thinker in ^^^... jk 60chevy welcome

Posted by: Dazy5

You would think that people would take a look at similiar "I got a speeding ticket and now I need advice (but secretly I just want everyone to hear my sob story and feel bad for me)" thread, and realize that you guys don't take nicely to these kinds, AND NOT POST IT!!

If they DID read them, they would realize that your advice is what they should have been doing to avoid the ticket in the first place!!

I do enjoy reading them, though

Posted by: rocksy1826

this can't be for real. you even pointed out how you're going faster than the limit

Posted by: misconceived

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Originally Posted by USMCMP5811

Maybe they forgot to put winter air in your tires and you were low on blinker fluid and that caused the descrepancies in your GPS read out as well as your speedometer

Blinker fluid, I haven't heard that one in a while.

Posted by: SinePari

Man, I wish there was a masscops.com when I was 21 getting tickets...thanks to Al Gore we have a plethora of knowledge out there now.

This advice would have saved me a lot of grief.

Posted by: lpwpd722

These people just don't learn, do they? My god, people don't come to a police site and ask how to get out of a ticket.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kparr15

How long were you driving the car before you got pulled over??? Common sense and your daddy, would tell you to check the vehicle before you purchased it.

Posted by: OPD05

This one has worked hundreds of times. When you go to court just tell them that the trooper had to speed to even catch you, so they should recieve a ticket as well. With the fear of getting a ticket and higher insurance rates, the trooper is likely to dismiss your ticket and call it a wash. 50% of the time it works everytime!

Posted by: badgebunny

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper

kparr. send me a message with your ticket info. I might be able to help you. I used to clean the bathroom in the Judges lounge at Milford Courthouse before I got this better job. I got stopped once going to my new job in Marlborough. Stupid statie laughed when I showed him my security badge. I explained I was late for work but he didnt care. He even threatened to charge me with impersonating because I was driving in my uniform in the left lane with my Crown Victoria. Must be against the law to own a Crown Vic in Mass if you arent a cop. SHEESH.

Posted by: SinePari

BB, saw you on the news at FSC

Posted by: rocksy1826

when you bought the car... didn't you check it out to make sure lights and everything worked properly? and I'm sure you didn't go alone to buy the car. Anyone that doesn't know cars brings someone that does to buy a car. They would've alerted you to any issues.

factory bulbs is the silliest thing i've ever heard. And I doubt the dealership would've tinted the windows to a degree that wasn't legal.

i think you pulled your ponytail back a little tightly this morning. It's restricting blood flow to your brain.

Posted by: Sniper

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Originally Posted by Sniper

no PM here........... SHUCKS.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

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Originally Posted by Sniper

no PM here........... SHUCKS.

....youre supposed to be in the food court buddy...quit slackin'

Posted by: Sniper

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Originally Posted by misconceived

Blinker fluid, I haven't heard that one in a while.

Yup, it was on the shelf in Supply right next to the Grid Squares......... hahahahaa

Posted by: POPCOP

Thanks for this post, as if there weren't enough things pissing me off...

Posted by: wgciv

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Originally Posted by Sniper

Yup, it was on the shelf in Supply right next to the Grid Squares......... hahahahaa

You sure??? I thought the blinker fluid was next to the roll of fallopian tube.. the HMMWV keys were hung next to the grid squares.

Posted by: Sniper

Quote:

Originally Posted by wgciv

You sure??? I thought the blinker fluid was next to the roll of fallopian tube.. the HMMWV keys were hung next to the grid squares.

Well in the Army, we had LOGICAL ways of doing things.......... In the marines , you guys needed room to hang pictures of HMMWVs next to the keys so that the guys understood what they went to.. HAHAHAHAA.

Posted by: wgciv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper

Well in the Army, we had LOGICAL ways of doing things.......... In the Marines , you guys needed room to hang pictures of HMMWVs next to the keys so that the guys understood what they went to.. HAHAHAHAA.

Haha.. nothing wrong with a little "Marine Proofing"!

Posted by: Q5-TPR

Put a Lance Corporal in an empty closet with 2 tennis balls. He will break one and loose the other! There is no such thing as "Marine proof"!

The only thing more dangerous than a PFC with a paycheck is a LCpl with a badge!!!!!

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sniper

Yup, it was on the shelf in Supply right next to the Grid Squares

Which were in front of the left-handed gunner's wrench.

Posted by: screamineagle

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Originally Posted by Delta784

Which were in front of the left-handed gunner's wrench.

I used to send the new guy to the first sergeant looking for a prick e-8.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by screamineagle

I used to send the new guy to the first sergeant looking for a prick e-8.

Good for you he didn't bring one back.

Posted by: CJIS

yawn

Posted by: Barbrady

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Originally Posted by Delta784

Which were in front of the left-handed gunner's wrench.

I guess it depends on the supply sergeant. I thought the extension cord for the range fan was in front...next to the antenna stretcher.

Posted by: Q5-TPR

And for the Marines who may need 1000 feet of shore line. That is usually located next to the boxes of grid squares.

Posted by: Sniper

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Originally Posted by Q5-TPR

And for the Marines who may need 1000 feet of shore line. That is usually located next to the boxes of grid squares.

Q, check your PMs man..........

Posted by: Rock

While working construction summers in college I was sent looking for the wood stretcher. "It's long with an orange handle...and hurry up!"

Posted by: Sniper

Hahahhahaa Rock.

Posted by: Tuna

We used to do " A bucket of Green Steam" and the old standby "Muffler Bearings" in high school shop.

Posted by: dcs2244

Get a clue, guys: the blinker fluid is next to the prop wash.

Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Originally Posted by dcs2244

Get a clue, guys: the blinker fluid is next to the prop wash.

but don't forget that the blinker fluid get's covered by the 7I0 cap

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

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Originally Posted by USMCMP5811

but don't forget that the blinker fluid get's covered by the 7I0 cap

710 cap...thats a classic

Posted by: Q5-TPR

Also, need to get some Bravo Alpha 1100 November's from supply.

Posted by: Sticktime

What brand of GPS did you have? I want to make sure I don't buy that one.

Posted by: Zorba222

...OK, so how many times have you been pulled over?

You said "every time you have been pulled over?"...Look pal, check off box #2 on the rear of the citation, mail it in the envelop provided, wait for your court date, and then cry a river to the clerk magistrate.

There is no doubt that you will receive a fair and equitible hearing and then will be found guilty....then you can enjoy the rest of your day and be able to tell allof your loser friends how much cops suck and are liars and the court system is no better.

Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Originally Posted by Q5-TPR

Also, need to get some Bravo Alpha 1100 November's from supply.

and fill out the ID 10 T form in triplacate

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