| Originally Posted by ath817  I do have a few thoughts on the M&P .40. I was able to try this out at the S& W range a few weeks back. Personally, I didn't much care for the grip and found that I was all over the place with it. I tend to be pretty accurate with a Glock 23, but was far less so with this. I certainly can't blame the gun for this. There is the safety issue that would be of concern for LE, as if the magazine drops, a bullet in the chamber will not fire as it will on a Glock as a new "safety" feature. Just my 2 cents. |
| Originally Posted by VTCOP I use an M&P on duty. I fell in love with it the first time I used it. For me, it is very accurate. Anyway...A leo does not have to have the new safety device, meaning if the mag is not in it will not fire. you can order it with out that safety. I personally, got the safety device...for me I like it because I do transports a lot, go to courts, and deal with people in holding cells alot. If you get into a scrap with someone in the cell areas, drop the mag, and if they get the weapon, too bad, can't use it. Now time for a major beat down. For me, it made sense. I know for others they dont like the idea.... |
| as far as i know i think that is part of the new gun laws the gun will not shoot without a mag in it. which i think it stupid. if its the same gun im thinking of it also has a marker that shows people your pointing at there is a round in the chamber. |
| Originally Posted by rokurmthr61 as far as i know i think that is part of the new gun laws the gun will not shoot without a mag in it. which i think it stupid. if its the same gun im thinking of it also has a marker that shows people your pointing at there is a round in the chamber. |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy There is no provision in any of the "consumer protection" regulations that the firearm be equipped with a magazine disconnect. Smith & Wesson has had magazine disconnects in many of their pistols, from the 80's on up. You can get the M&P pistol without it, if that is desired. Some prefer them, some don't, I personally don't like them, not because I think that in some bizarre circumstance I'm going to have to fire my pistol with a round in the chamber and the magazine removed, I just loathe any mechanical device that could disable my pistol...the simpler the better in my opinion. As far as the actual pistol goes, I've shot the .40 full size and the .45 full size, and I have been quite impressed. The gun was accurate, reliable and because of its interchangeable backstraps, quite a comfortable gun to shoot. With the smallest backstrap fitted, the .40 was quite a bit smaller than my Sig, yet held more rounds. I think that S&W has finally gotten a winner with this pistol, all the advantages of a Glock, without the Glock's chunky, brick-like feel. I think Smith is going to take a bite out of Glock and Sig's market with this; if all things are equal, I think most departments would rather spend their money on an American product, and I think America has been edged out of modern defensive pistols for far too long. By the way, join us adults and use capitals in your posts. |
| Originally Posted by mpd61 You know KJ, I knew there was a reason I liked you so much... It's because you're so common sensicle AND you know as much about firearms as I do... I agree with the mag disconnect theory, The M1911 didn't ever have one, so who needs it? Keep it simple! I have fingered with the M&P's, both versions, and came away impressed with fit/features/feel. Can't wait to actually shoot with em! BTW if the NHSP went from Sig's to M&P's (and we all know why) then the naysayers can just go back to eating breakfast. You might be surprised to accept that the M&P will have a tough time cutting into the "Glock Perfection" myth for a few years though. It's really too bad how entrenched and inflexible the "Glock Goobers" can be. Oh well. Be safe |
| What exactly do you consider an inflexible "Glock Goober?" |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The kind of guy who thinks the only pistol ever worth carrying was created by Gaston Glock. They think Glocks shoot thunderbolts, have 200 round drum magazines, and can run in the vacuum of outer space. I think Glocks are decent pistols, but I have no particular love for them. |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The kind of guy who thinks the only pistol ever worth carrying was created by Gaston Glock. They think Glocks shoot thunderbolts, have 200 round drum magazines, and can run in the vacuum of outer space. I think Glocks are decent pistols, but I have no particular love for them. |
| 940 CMR 16.05: Sale of Handguns Without Childproofing (1) It shall be an unfair or deceptive practice to sell a handgun without a safety device in violation of M.G.L. c. 140, § 131K. (2) It shall be an unfair or deceptive practice for a handgun-purveyor to transfer or offer to transfer to any customer located within the Commonwealth any handgun which does not contain a mechanism which effectively precludes an average five year old child from operating the handgun when it is ready to fire; such mechanisms shall include, but are not limited to: raising trigger resistance to at least a ten pound pull, altering the firing mechanism so that an average five year old child's hands are too small to operate the handgun, or requiring a series of multiple motions in order to fire the handgun. (3) It shall be an unfair or deceptive practice for a handgun-purveyor to transfer or offer to transfer to any customer located within the Commonwealth any handgun which does not contain a load indicator or magazine safety disconnect. |
| Originally Posted by drknyt I have a question for all of you does anyone know who I should look to for finding and off duty holster for my mp 40 compact, black hawk doesn't have one so any other ideas. |
LOL | Originally Posted by OICU812 I just picked up the compact .40 and put 50 rounds through it this morning. I absolutely loved it. No malfunctions at all. It reminded me alot of the Glock 23 (the gun I used in the academy). It feels like it will be a great gun to conceal and use off-duty. The gun did jump around alot, but that was expected in a compact 40. I still had a close grouping and the grip felt fine even with bananna hands. |
| Originally Posted by OICU812 I just picked up the compact .40 and put 50 rounds through it this morning. I absolutely loved it. No malfunctions at all. It reminded me alot of the Glock 23 (the gun I used in the academy). It feels like it will be a great gun to conceal and use off-duty. The gun did jump around alot, but that was expected in a compact 40. I still had a close grouping and the grip felt fine even with bananna hands. |
| Originally Posted by drknyt I have a question for all of you does anyone know who I should look to for finding and off duty holster for my mp 40 compact, black hawk doesn't have one so any other ideas. |
vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vB Easy Archive Final ©2000 - 2008 - Created by Stefan "Xenon" Kaeser
ma police, boston ma police, massachusetts police, massachusetts police, mass state police, mass police, ma, mass, massachusetts, massachusetts, massachutes, massachusetts law, massachusetts polece, police, officer, police officer, cops, police gear, law enforcement, police duty gear, state police, sheriff, law, police supply, police agency directory, police agency, police department, traffic officer, police dept, state trooper, dispatcher, massachusetts county sheriff, massachusetts sheriff, massachusetts department of corrections, ma doc, doc, dept of corrections, police information, civil service, ma civil service, massachusetts crime, police training, police academy, ma police academy, massachusetts officers, masscop, masscops, mpa, bpa, ibpoa, police association, massachusetts police news, massachusetts crime news, mass most wanted, police career information, police patrol, police administration, police books, crime scene training, police discussion, crime discussions, cops