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Posted by: BlackOps

So I ran two plates yesterday on two seperate vehicles that had thin blue line plates and/or stickers on them. Low and behold both vehicles were owned by complete scumbags with extensive BOPs for all kinds of wonderful things.

Tonight, I did the same. Ran every vehicle with the stickers and plates that I could find. Out of seven vehicles that were ran, five were complete scumbags with multiple BOP entries.

My new hobby at work: Running every plate I see with these damn plates/stickers on them and stopping them for any violation I can find.

Time to put an end to this.

Posted by: JoninNH

Why only run plates with TBL stickers and plates? I'd run file checks on every plate I can see whether they have a wanna be sticker or not and then cite those who are found violating the sacred book of Chapter 90.

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by BlackOps

My new hobby at work: Running every plate I see with these damn plates/stickers on them and stopping them for any violation I can find.

Just a suggestion...find a violation FIRST before you run them. Those of us without MDTs have to do things that way, and it stands up better in court when you have PC to stop. Those of you who run all plates will get dependent upon your computer and miss a lot of violations. And you'll also get a call to your Sgt why my plate was run twice in one week by the same MDT when wifey was driving (true story).

Posted by: pahapoika

saw another "troopers are your best protection' stickers in the back window of a pickup truck today. guy wasn't the best driver

are these sticker legit ?

Posted by: TopCop24

Who knows if they're legit, but the unlicensed Brazilians absolutely love them

Posted by: Wolfman

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are these sticker legit ?

Keep it simple. No sticker is legit until verified.

Posted by: JoninNH

Simply ask why they have the sticker. I love the shocked... "Uh, um, well because I thought you wouldn't pull me over if I had it."

Posted by: resqjyw0

They could make a show on the excuses of why people display the TBL sticker when they aren't supposed to, like how they have the show Speeders.

Posted by: JoninNH

God help the first one I catch who says "I'm a cop" and then can't come up with a shield and ID.

Posted by: Macop

MDTS are a wonderfull thing.

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by pahapoika

saw another "troopers are your best protection' stickers in the back window of a pickup truck today. guy wasn't the best driver

are these sticker legit ?

They get one when they donate to The Constabulary.

Posted by: JoninNH

HAHAHA! "CONSTABLES are our best protection!" ROTFL

Posted by: pahapoika

Simply ask why they have the sticker. I love the shocked... "Uh, um, well because I thought you wouldn't pull me over if I had it."

that's pathetic. they really think you guys wouldn't pull them over ?

Posted by: JoninNH

There are some very stupid people on the roadways.

Posted by: pahapoika

There are some very stupid people on the roadways.

amen !

Posted by: Jeepy

I wouldn't ever put a sticker on my Jeep that would draw unwanted attention.

No offense to anyone here -- but I wouldn't advertise that I was police-friendly 'cause it may attract vandals who want to retaliate by trashing your car.

Also, I remember reading stories about people who had NRA stickers on their cars and they were falsely accused of brandishing in traffic.

Why bring on that kind of baloney, even if you can ultimately win the argument if it goes to court? I'd rather just lay low and not let anyone know who I am or what my beliefs are when I'm driving around out there.

It's too dangerous. Better to blend in . . . as much as one can blend in with a bright red Jeep.

Posted by: seadiver

MDT's are a nice thing but when you work in a valley and they dont work kinda in trouble well I guess thats why we have dispatcheI deffinatly know what you mean alot of people with TBL sticker or support your state police, also supporters of either local or chief of police association stickers. As wolfman put it no sticker is legit until verified

Posted by: Gil

I stopped a guy for suspended lic, on the trunk of his 2008 Toyota was a TBL sticker, asked him why he had it and he made mention of his friend being a cop in Rhode Island somewhere. Whatever they mean nothing to me, he ended up under arrest and his vehicle towed. My backup who waited for the tow removed the sticker and from the complaint filed (against me) days later was that I scratched the paint on his car when removing the sticker.

The point being just leave the sticker on the car and save yourself the headache, there is nothing in MGL about TBL stickers that warrant their removal. If anything, like BlackOps indicated they are becoming more of a target for anyone that has them.

As far as those "Troopers are your best protection" stickers, they are just unsightly bumper stickers that decrease the value even more on those 1986 Aries K cars etc....

Posted by: Loyal

The blue line stickers and plates are easily obtained by anyone and mean nothing. Good point about there being no law against having one, but there is a Ch 90 fine for displaying an MPA sticker, or other affiliation, without authority - think it's a $25 fine

Posted by: JoninNH

That Ch90 section doesn't apply to TBL stickers.

Posted by: kttref

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Originally Posted by SinePari

We had a trooper running one of our DB cars three times in a week (because one of our female officers was going to training)...and he kept stopping her asking for her number...needless to say, his supervisor got a phone call as well.

Regardless, I like stopping the cars with the school stickers...especially the beat up ol shit cars with stickers for schools they definitely didn't go to...

MDT's are great...but we do miss basic shit sometimes because we sit and run stuff all day.

Posted by: Macop

I have run the same car a few times in a couple of weeks, occasionally, why, because I, by force of habit run plates to find shit, for obvious reasons and sometimes I hit the transmit button only to realize that I ran the dam thing a week ago, lol. If I ever get a call from someone bitching about it, too bad. I can't be the only person that runs the same plate by accident. Of course I am not refering to kttref's scenerio, that is unacceptable.

Posted by: SinePari

A call to the supervisor about someone running your wife's plate is not "bitching". It's a concern that somebody with access to an MDT may be abusing the privilege. A little conversation with said person may stifle a potential escalation of abuse, as kttref pointed out. That "too bad" attitude could send you to a time out off the road.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

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Originally Posted by SinePari

A call to the supervisor about someone running your wife's plate is not "bitching". It's a concern that somebody with access to an MDT may be abusing the privilege. A little conversation with said person may stifle a potential escalation of abuse, as kttref pointed out. That "too bad" attitude could send you to a time out off the road.

Did he know she is your wife? I run everything that moves, especially cars with police stickers to se if they have BOPS etc. Sometimes I run the same car three times a week as I sit somewhere and enter dozens of regs on the MDT simultaneously. I don't know what abuse you are talking about, shit I see my plate being run by MSP sometimes, I don't call the baracks and ask to speak to the troop commander. Remember MA law allows you to run every plate you want when you want. Maybe there is something more to your situation but I would be pissed If I got pulled in by my supervior regarding this, cause next time i would have seen that car it would be a gig.

Posted by: red2851

I scraped a SPAM sticker off an unlicensed Brazilians back window a year ago. Stickers dont mean a thing. I only have one SPAM sticker on my vehicle and I give some to my immediate family. I have about 25 in my desk drawer. I havent found anyone worthy of them yet. On the computer topic; I dont think you should be allowed to use an MDT until you've had at least a year on the job. The instincts need more fine tuning. The crap I ran into my first year without a computer was an eye opener. Cars I wouldn't stop today produced some good results. Im a Trooper and I dont know where those Troopers are your best protection stickers came from but; hell I have to admit I love them. I have a great relationship with all the local guys in my area and we do great work together but we love to give eachother sh** about our respective departments and we have alot of fun with it. We're all on the same team. Those folks on every Dept that take themselves to seriously cause to much tension. This job is FUN. The more people I have watching my ass the better. Run everyone and stop the RATS.

Posted by: kttref

What are your rules for running stuff? In CT our COLLECT system has very strict rules. We are not allowed to run our own plates, we can only run plates if it is in regards to our professional duties. We can not run a plate just to see who owns it (ie because he/she is hot)....basically if it doesn't pertain to work, we can't do it. If we see a scrot on the highway on the way into work, technically we CANNOT run that plate when we get to work, because we saw it out of our jurisdiction...

Posted by: OPD05

The court case found that there is no reasonable expectation of privacy for a license plate. My understanding is, as with most things, as long as you do not abuse this power and you are using it for work related matters, you are good to run all plates you come accross.

Posted by: red2851

That is the answer. No expection of privacy on license plates. I think it was a case out of Marlboro. You can stop if the operator is suspended as long as the registered owner matches the description of the person driving the car. Run everything stop the Rats.

Posted by: BlackOps

Well, well, well. A call to the super's office because someone ran a plate twice. You have to be kidding me. I run plates all day long and sometimes you do run the same plate more than once over a short time period because you forget what plates you run. And not every one of us is dependent on our MDT. You still look for violations and police the way your were trained. Complete BS that every person with the privilege of an MDT is dependent on it.

Posted by: JoninNH

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Originally Posted by BlackOps

And not every one of us is dependent on our MDT. You still look for violations and police the way your were trained. Complete BS that every person with the privilege of an MDT is dependent on it.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

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Originally Posted by red2851

I have about 25 in my desk drawer. I havent found anyone worthy of them yet.

WE'RE NOT WORTHY!!!

Posted by: Delta784

The only thing a TBL sticker does is make me intensely scrutinize a vehicle I otherwise would have probably ignored.

Posted by: cj3441

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Originally Posted by Delta784

The only thing a TBL sticker does is make me intensely scrutinize a vehicle I otherwise would have probably ignored.

+1

One of my favorite stops was a rat with one of our union stickers on the window, it was brand new. Rat was suspended and had a warrant to boot.

Posted by: SinePari

I made a hypothetical here, not to the PD, regarding someone who may be abusing the system. Nothing came of it, jeesh you guys are jumpy! My wife drives like she's taking a road test, we have a brand new vehicle, no stickers, and takes junior to from errands. When my plate got ran twice at the same time, 2 different days, by the same MDT in the same town, it warranted a little concern, that's all. I happen to give fuck about my family so calm down.

Posted by: OPD05

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Originally Posted by SinePari

SinePari, I completely agree with your concern to protect your family. I completely disagree with your opinion to not run a plate until there is a violation. Moving violations is only one park of the job. Taking unreg cars off the road, unlisenced drivers off the road and arresting those with warrants are all other important aspects of the job. Not knowing all of the details from your wife's situation, it is tough to have an opinion, and I thinks its a good idea to look into it, but PROPER use of MDTs helps all officers do their job more effectively.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

They can run my plate all day long, no matching rmv record.

Posted by: kttref

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Originally Posted by SinePari

I made a hypothetical here, not to the PD, regarding someone who may be abusing the system. Nothing came of it, jeesh you guys are jumpy! My wife drives like she's taking a road test, we have a brand new vehicle, no stickers, and takes junior to from errands. When my plate got ran twice at the same time, 2 different days, by the same MDT in the same town, it warranted a little concern, that's all. I happen to give fuck about my family so calm down.

Out of curiosity...how did you know it was run? did you get a call or something from rmv?

My plate comes back to my PD...my husband's plate comes back to his PD...much easier that way.

Same with our licenses.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Sine runs his plate every day to see if some local is going to take his wife away.

Posted by: kttref

......running our own plates is a no-no in CT.

Posted by: coloneltruth

I would never put a TBL on my car. The number one reason is because the TBL company is owned by a P/T Deputy Sheriff hack out of Plymouth County.

Ask the guy who owns the police supply store on Washington St. in Quincy. He told me all about this guy and his BS lawsuit threats against him for copyright violations.

Posted by: Q5-TPR

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Originally Posted by coloneltruth

I would never put a TBL on my car. The number one reason is because the TBL company is owned by a P/T Deputy Sheriff hack out of Plymouth County.

Ask the guy who owns the police supply store on Washington St. in Quincy. He told me all about this guy and his BS lawsuit threats against him for copyright violations.

That is true about the Plymouth Deputy. The original Thin Blue Line was actually started by a Little Rock, Arkansas cop about 15 years ago, and it was big down south. It only recently caught on in the last couple of years up here. I believe that the Ark guy has the actual trademark and is the one sueing the PT DS.

Posted by: mtc

I wouldn't put a TBL sticker, nor SPAM sticker on my car... I am NOT a trooper, deathly afraid of guns, and not interested in standing out on the road.

I can drive like a crazy chick and nobody knows where I work... but if you get close enough, you'll be able to read the one sticker I do have, that basically says I wish I could throw monkey poo on you!

Posted by: Crvtte65

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Originally Posted by Q5-TPR

The 3 active trademarks according to the US Patent and Trademark Office

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Goods and Services IC 006. US 002 012 013 014 023 025 050. G & S: metal license plates for use in identifying sworn personnel in the law enforcement profession. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100 Mark Drawing Code (2) DESIGN ONLY Design Search Code 26.11.11 - Rectangles divided twice into three sections
26.11.21 - Rectangles that are completely or partially shaded Serial Number 76616165 Filing Date October 12, 2004 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Owner (APPLICANT) Fraternal Blue Line, Inc. CORPORATION MASSACHUSETTS PO Box 260199 Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02126 Attorney of Record JOHN L. DUPRE' Prior Registrations 2878050 Description of Mark black and blue. The mark consists of two black stripes, with a blue stripe between them. Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

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Goods and Services IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: Pressure sensitive graphics for application to automobiles; decals; stickers. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100IC 026. US 037 039 040 042 050. G & S: Cloth patches for clothing; ribbons. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100
IC 014. US 002 027 028 050. G & S: Jewelry, namely pins which can be attached to clothing. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100
IC 006. US 002 012 013 014 023 025 050. G & S: Metal License plates. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100
IC 024. US 042 050. G & S: Cloth flags. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100
IC 025. US 022 039. G & S: Clothing, namely, hats, t-shirts and shirts. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100
Mark Drawing Code (2) DESIGN ONLY Design Search Code 26.11.11 - Rectangles divided twice into three sections
26.11.21 - Rectangles that are completely or partially shaded
29.05.01 - Red or pink (Multiple colors used on the entire goods)
29.05.11 - Black (Multiple colors used on the entire goods) Serial Number 76616166 Filing Date October 12, 2004 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Published for Opposition August 1, 2006 Owner (APPLICANT) Fraternal Blue Line, Inc. CORPORATION MASSACHUSETTS PO Box 260199 Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02126 Attorney of Record Erik M. Pelton Description of Mark The color(s) black and red is/are claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of two black stripes, with a red stripe between them. Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register PRINCIPAL-2(F) Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

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Goods and Services IC 006. US 002 012 013 014 023 025 050. G & S: Metal license plates. FIRST USE: 19930100. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19930100 Mark Drawing Code (2) DESIGN ONLY Design Search Code 26.11.20 - Rectangles inside one another
26.13.21 - Quadrilaterals that are completely or partially shaded Serial Number 76534078 Filing Date July 31, 2003 Current Filing Basis 1A Original Filing Basis 1A Supplemental Register Date March 24, 2004 Registration Number 2878050 Registration Date August 24, 2004 Owner (REGISTRANT) Fraternal Blue Line Inc. CORPORATION MASSACHUSETTS PO Box 240184 Boston MASSACHUSETTS 02124 Attorney of Record Erik M. Pelton Description of Mark The color(s) blue is/are claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of the color blue in a horizontal stripe applied to the center of a rectangular license plate. The dotted lining in the drawing is used to indicate the position of the mark and is not a feature of the mark. Type of Mark TRADEMARK Register SUPPLEMENTAL Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

The WHOIS registration to www.thinblueline.com:

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Registrant:
Fraternal Blue Line, Inc. P. O. Box 260199 Boston, MA 02126 US Domain Name: THINBLUELINE.COM
Administrative Contact , Technical Contact : Medeiros, David E. info@eternalblueline.com P.O. Box 260199 Boston, MA 02126 US Phone: (617) 212-1288 Fax: (617) 249-0857 Record expires on 08-Nov-2008
Record created on 09-Nov-1997 Database last updated on 27-Oct-2007

Posted by: jettsixx

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Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne

They can run my plate all day long, no matching rmv record.

"Ghost plate?"...........there are still ways of running those just have to know who to call.

Posted by: cchc28

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Originally Posted by kttref

Do you have take home cars?..

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by kttref

Out of curiosity...how did you know it was run? did you get a call or something from rmv?

A few years ago I was learning our LEAPS system and ran my plate for training. There are "recent queries" cashed for I think 30 days. PD, terminal, date and time. It helps to see these queries (not just to keep the sharks away from wifey

) from other PDs to see a pattern as to where and when these plates were run. You can build a case of suspicion by contacting the PD who ran the plate. I know the MSP does not but many PDs do keep logs of every mv stop.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

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Originally Posted by jettsixx

"Ghost plate?"...........there are still ways of running those just have to know who to call.

Yeah but calling Boston to find out who it is, you will have to stand tall before the man.

Posted by: snapbox

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Originally Posted by cchc28

Do you have take home cars?..

She's saying that the RMV Records on both her POV plates & license point back to her PD...

IE. As if she was living there

Posted by: kttref

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Originally Posted by SinePari

Makes sense. We keep a log of all cars we stop (must be entered into our in-house system).

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Originally Posted by snapbox

She's saying that the RMV Records on both her POV plates & license point back to her PD...

IE. As if she was living there

Basically...(We have a DMV, not RMV)...my personal license and license plate information is suppressed to the bad guys

and other cops...which I suppose an argument could be made about them to!

Posted by: csauce777

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Originally Posted by SinePari

I made a hypothetical here, not to the PD, regarding someone who may be abusing the system. Nothing came of it, jeesh you guys are jumpy! My wife drives like she's taking a road test, we have a brand new vehicle, no stickers, and takes junior to from errands. When my plate got ran twice at the same time, 2 different days, by the same MDT in the same town, it warranted a little concern, that's all. I happen to give fuck about my family so calm down.

Hell, I've run the same plate twice in one night

When I'm running several plates in a short span, sometimes one sneaks in on it's return trip from it's destination and it doesnt dawn on me until the listing comes back or I've hit transmit.

Posted by: Tango

Not sure if the video link is going to work..

Blue Line Bumper Stickers

By Justine Judge

Watch The Story

When you're on the roads, almost everywhere you look, people have bumper stickers supporting one cause or another.
We looked into one sticker that's getting more popular, the thin blue line.
Some are hoping it will get them out of a ticket.

Do you know what the blue line means?

One Amherst resident said, "The border of a blue state?"

Lyn Ginzberg said, "Something political?"

Nope.
It's called the "thin blue line" and it's a symbol used by police officers.

Sgt.John Delaney with the Springfield Police Department says, "This thin blue line basically represents the fraternal order of police officers throughout the country, the thin blue line represents the brotherhood of police being connected through the thin blue line."

Many officers display the stickers on their personal cars. But some civilians are catching on. In other places, motorists have put the blue line stickers on their own cars in hopes of getting out of tickets.

The idea started among police officers. They created a website called, thin-blue-line dot com. To buy a sticker, you had to prove you're an officer by providing your name, rank, department and references so they could check your background.

But we bought an identical bumper sticker on cafépress.com, it wasn't very expensive and it came in the mail in just a few days."

We didn't need to provide any information to buy the bumper sticker, just a credit card. We asked around see if people in our area would give it a try.

Jeffrey and Lyn Ginzberg say, "Just because of the basis that your identifying with a police department it seems that that isn't ethical."

Michael Sears is a UMASS Student and says, "If it gets me out of a ticket I would yeah."

Rick Eddleston is a UMASS Student and says, "I could name kids off the top of my head that would do that, it makes sense if it gets you out of paying a couple hundred bucks."

Officially, police say if you're speeding or violating the law in any other way, no bumper sticker can save you.

Delaney says, "If I'm a police officer and I'm watching a red light or if I'm running radar and the car goes by you they are going to get pulled over regardless of what kind of bumper sticker is on there."

Something to think about before spending the money to join the thin blue line, unless you're doing it to show your support, expecting nothing in return.

Delaney says, "I'm suspect to those people that are buying them, maybe they're buying them to get out from under a ticket which isn't going to work but if they're doing it to show their support for police then I'm all for it."

Posted by: Sniper

TBL sticker.......... No LE affiliation............ FULL BOAT ciation. No questions asked.

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

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Originally Posted by Sniper

TBL sticker.......... No LE affiliation............ FULL BOAT ciation. No questions asked.

DAMN, you mall guys are tough!

Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Originally Posted by Sniper

TBL sticker.......... No LE affiliation............ FULL BOAT ciation. No questions asked.

Damn Snipe, a trespass notice for just that????

Posted by: SinePari

I see thousands of cars a day, only a few catch my attention. Don't be those few. Stickers only raise my curiosity as to who's in the car.

Posted by: kttref

Agreed. And if they can't call their "police friend" on the phone...I don't believe you. Also, NYPD PBA cards mean nothing to me.

Posted by: j809

Who gives a shit, you guys all act like a bunch of sparky hunters. Go out and do some real police work and stop worrying about some damn useless sticker. I could care less what someone has on their car, MPA,SPAM, BPPA, I gig everyone and ask nothing about any of that crap.

Posted by: mpd61

Boy don't I feel silly...

I run my plate or my licence everyday on duty to test my IMC/MDT, cuz I lose the Verizon connection quite frequently during the day. Sometimes I'll run my wife/kids etc too just for fun!

Death to those with TBL stickers though!

j809, I love that "sparky hunters" I gotta use that line buddy!

Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

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Originally Posted by j809

Who gives a shit, you guys all act like a bunch of sparky hunters. Go out and do some real police work and stop worrying about some damn useless sticker. I could care less what someone has on their car, MPA,SPAM, BPPA, I gig everyone and ask nothing about any of that crap.

Dito!!!!

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by j809

I could care less what someone has on their car, MPA,SPAM, BPPA, I gig everyone and ask nothing about any of that crap.

So before you've even made contact with the operator, you've already decided your course of action?

Nice.

Posted by: HOLLYROCK50

We only have ourselves to blame for scumbags, as you put it, having these plates and stickers.... Where do you think they are getting them from..... US!!!!! The blue line plates were a cool idea at first, they wouldn't sell them to you unless you were a cop. Then some cop some where decided they could make a few bucks and put them on Ebay. Just like everything else that used to be cool about being a cop, we abused it and we lost it.....

Posted by: j809

Whatever, forget about decals and shit, use your tin and ID and have a nice day. I don't let my guard down when i see that crap on cars, let's all grow up and be real cops and stop worrying about nonsense bullshit, plenty of real crime out there.

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Originally Posted by Delta784

So before you've even made contact with the operator, you've already decided your course of action?

Nice.

Yup, call me, don't ask ,don't care.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by j809

Whatever, forget about decals and shit, use your tin and ID and have a nice day. I don't let my guard down when i see that crap on cars, let's all grow up and be real cops and stop worrying about nonsense bullshit, plenty of real crime out there.

Yup, call me, don't ask ,don't care.

So if the person you stop with an MPA sticker is a relative of your police chief, you're going to write them the full boat?

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by j809

That's right Sarge! right em all and let God and the Magistrate sort em out!

Posted by: j809

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Originally Posted by Delta784

So if the person you stop with an MPA sticker is a relative of your police chief, you're going to write them the full boat?

My police chief doesn't hand out MPA stickers to anyone, maybe your chief does.

Posted by: SinePari

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Originally Posted by Delta784

So if the person you stop with an MPA sticker is a relative of your police chief, you're going to write them the full boat?

Your chief? Absolutely

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by j809

My police chief doesn't hand out MPA stickers to anyone, maybe your chief does.

You're dodging the question.....ANYONE with an MPA sticker gets the full CMVI from you, no matter who they are?

Posted by: j809

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use your tin and ID and have a nice day.

I think I already answered the question. Too many people can join the MPA now, dispatchers, part-timers, auxiliaries and just about any other law enforcement agency. BPPA nowhas EMTs in it and I just don't care about them at all.I don't ask any questions about them.

Posted by: mpd61

YEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yimmy I'm a chief!

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