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Main Page What's happening with the Bio-terror Cops?
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Posted by: Out2lunch

I heard from a friend that the people going to that academy at BU for the Bio-terror buidling are running into problems.. Any Ideas? I guess BUPD wants to take them into their union but with pay cuts, and promises

Posted by: soxrock75

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Originally Posted by Out2lunch

I heard from a friend that the people going to that academy at BU for the Bio-terror buidling are running into problems.. Any Ideas? I guess BUPD wants to take them into their union but with pay cuts, and promises

I thought that they were promised GREAT money and membership in the IBPO like the Statre Specials @ BMC.

Posted by: fish4all

From what I hear is that one union is making backhanded false offers to the recruits they can't produce in a vain attempt to bolster the number of officers they represent.

Posted by: Out2lunch

I guess BUPD Union wants more memebers... The pay for the Cadets is great if they stay at BMC if not they start out at starting officer pay which I guess for some of them is a HUGE pay cut because they worked at BMC before the acedemy.... I guess no ones wants to speak out or up on this one... Good luck to those cadets... I hope they're BULLIED into anything....

Posted by: new guy

What are some of the promises that are being made ?

Posted by: Edmizer1

I may be a bit late on the conversation. What are the new cops about?

Posted by: richie28

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Originally Posted by Out2lunch

LACROUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'S THINKS YOUS UP TO NO GOOD!!!!!

Posted by: soxrock75

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Originally Posted by Edmizer1

I may be a bit late on the conversation. What are the new cops about?

These Officers are going to be assigned to the new BU Bio-Lab near Boston Medical Center. They are in the SSPO right now.

Posted by: SPINMASS

With the SSPO academy they should be able to find another job at some campus.

Posted by: Kilvinsky

I also would think it would work towards getting a job PT in a smaller town. Sure, it's not a FT job, but it's a source of income. I believe the SSPO academy is far more rounded and complete than a Reserve/Intermitent academy.

But that situation does sound very cruddy for the people who applied in good faith.

Posted by: Motorcop

I dont blame BUPD. They are the Police Department at BU. The Bio-center is part of BU. The people getting hired are being trained as police officers not security guards. It should be BUPD's work.

Posted by: Kilvinsky

touche.

But, will BU cops want to be assigned to a single building? BU Medical used to have a seperate Police Department. Could this be a subsidiary of the BUPD?

Kinda like the distinction between POLICE OFFICER and CAMPUS POLICE OFFICER. Still within the union, but a subsection.

I do see your point and do not disagree, but also see the otherside of it. It would be great for a guy who is in the last years of his career (damn, I'd love something like that once I hit 55 yoa) but a young patrolman (even a guy in his late 40s) would go freakin' nuts having only one building while listening to his colleagues doing all sorts of stuff on the street.

Posted by: Out2lunch

it was announced the other day or Friday that the building will not open on time it was or pushed back for 12-18 months. where will those officers work. BU campus or the medical center? Are they going to be laid off.

Posted by: Kilvinsky

Do we know that anyone ever even actually got hired?

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by Kilvinsky

Do we know that anyone ever even actually got hired?

Jim!
That's the $64 Question brother!

Posted by: new guy

They hired about 20 of them and they are currently in the SSPO Academy. What they are going to do when they graduate is another $64 Question.

Posted by: soxrock75

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Originally Posted by new guy

They hired about 20 of them and they are currently in the SSPO Academy. What they are going to do when they graduate is another $64 Question.

From what I heard, the plan was always to have them occupy the building and train 6-9 months prior to it opening anyway. With the building being pushed back even further, I have no idea what they will do.

Posted by: Kilvinsky

Taking all this information into consideration, I can guess what they're going to do.

Play a LOT of solitare, re-write their resumes and rake in some easy money. GOOD FOR THEM.

Posted by: Out2lunch

word is they can only work at Lab can't work anywhere else. how do you have 20 officers guard only a couple of post with empty building? Police preforming Secuirty at Lab and Unarmed Security doing police work at Med Center go figure...

Posted by: csauce777

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Originally Posted by Kilvinsky

I also would think it would work towards getting a job PT in a smaller town. Sure, it's not a FT job, but it's a source of income. I believe the SSPO academy is far more rounded and complete than a Reserve/Intermitent academy.

But that situation does sound very cruddy for the people who applied in good faith.

You are correct as far as the SSPO being more rounded than the R/I academy, unfortunately, the SSPO doesnt work even for part time municipal jobs.

Posted by: fish4all

Don't blame BUPD? I heard they originally had no interest in that building. Suddenly BUPD gets the idea adding anothertwenty or so to their membership will strengthen them. Funny thing is BUPD "wants" them but they have to wear different uniforms and can't work at the main campus? The folks who were hired know they were part of the union at the medical campus and have to stay on for at leat one year or pay BU for the academy. BUPD just trying to strongarm vulnerable recruits with false petty promises in order for the BUPD union to gain membership. Desperation is what it is.

It's the building that is running into problems due to the sensitive nature of what will be inside once complete. When those folks graduate the building won't nearly be complete but I am sure BU will find places to plug them into.

Posted by: Kilvinsky

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Originally Posted by csauce777

You are correct as far as the SSPO being more rounded than the R/I academy, unfortunately, the SSPO doesnt work even for part time municipal jobs.

Well, I guess that only makes sense.

Posted by: soxrock75

Congrats to the BU Bio-Lab officers and those from other agencies that graduated from the SSPO last Friday.

Is it really true that the BU guys didn't have enough badges for the ceremony and had to borrow some from the officers @ BUMC???

I hear that the resumes from some of the BU guys are already starting to go out.......

Posted by: Kevin

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I hear that the resumes from some of the BU guys are already starting to go out.......[/QUOTE]

They won't find a salary close to what BUMC is paying.

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by soxrock75

True, but with an SSPO academy under their belt and no idea when they will get to work at the lab, Seems like a good time to "explore" other opportunities now that there is a delay in occupying the Bio-Lab.

I'd be looking at the POST jobs in the Western states!!!!

Posted by: fish4all

I hear they have to give BU one year according to their contract or pay back the cost of the academy. I also hear the academy was free, go figure.

Posted by: richie28

They may not find other places with the same hourly salary, but they have been told there will ber no OT for them at the lab. You can make in the 20's per hr and that is great, but a guy / gal making 17 to 18 an hr with applicable detail rates and OT can make alot more. Lets face it, OT and detail rates are a big bennifit in this field.

Posted by: Out2lunch

With the problems in the building the Officers will be guarding level two or three agents... Isn't that what the Officers who didn't go throught the SSPO do now. Does it make sense for ARMED GUARDS protect a building that UNARMED Officers are posted at. I alos heard that the BMC guys/gals are given attitudes from the Bio-Terror Officers. Walking arond like their SH&$ don't stink. Some of them are former BMC guys and aren't talking to their former partners.. Go figure..... Heard and can't confirm... That Bio-terror guys where told from their boss that they are SECURITY GUARDS and no better than the Officers that do police work at the Hospital.... It's kind of like Getting out of Parris Island and going to a Coast Guard base...

Posted by: Kilvinsky

I can't speak for what their jobs consists of, but if they are "walking around like their SH&$ don't stink", THAT stinks. Bad attitude and an inflated ego will come back to haunt you at some time and it won't be pretty. Is this ALL of them, or SOME of them?

So, I guess that means they're actually at work now?

Posted by: Copsrus

Hey Out2lunch, still disgruntled down at the Medical Center? Stop trying to stir up trouble. I highly doubt with all the stuff surrounding us at this point in time that any of us would even think to stick our noses up at any of you, especially since most of us come from there. All most of us could talk about in the academy was how much work we did down at the med center. Why dont you trying be happy for your brothers and 2 sisters who have sought to better ourselves. You can call us what you like (Security, Armed Guards) trust me, while wearing the white and grey at the med center I have been called worse, however, I know what my warrant and Chief of Police says. As a department, we swept the awards in the academy, that is an tribute to our department.

For the record, our title is NEIDL Public Safety Officer, we are sworn in as Special State Police Officers, soon to be out of state muni officers!!!

Posted by: Copsrus

Oh yeah, our direct supervisor never in a million years referred to us a Security guards, he doesn't even refer to the med center guys as that. He may not be pro police but he would never say that, especially being under our chief of police.

Posted by: Kilvinsky

Copsrus, I commend you for standing up and making a correction to an apparent bit of mistaken information.

Good luck to you guys there.

Posted by: mpd61

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Originally Posted by Copsrus

we are sworn in as Special State Police Officers, soon to be out of state muni officers!!!

YES! YES! Go west! now you're talking!

Posted by: gallivan73

Those who live in glass houses, should not throw stones. Be careful what you post about other who also have access to masscops., John

Posted by: fish4all

If your title is NEIDL Public Safety Officer then stay at the NEIDL and not try to worry what goes on at the main campus or with the medical campus, just worry about the one building your warrant applies to.

Posted by: Copsrus

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Originally Posted by fish4all

If your title is NEIDL Public Safety Officer then stay at the NEIDL and not try to worry what goes on at the main campus or with the medical campus, just worry about the one building your warrant applies to.

Sorry if we offended you! Will do Bro, will do! Have you seen our warrants?

Posted by: Copsrus

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Originally Posted by mpd61

YES! YES! Go west! now you're talking!

by the way mpd61, that was just a little humor about the out of state thing!! ha

FISH4ALL, In case there was some way that my prior text could have been misinterpreted, for clarification purposes, I made my comments in order to get the department to gel together as a whole. NEIDL doing there role, BUPD doing theres, and med center doing what they do. That wise crack about the warrants wasn't necessary, if you read our warrants you may actually be surprised at what our jurisdiction really is, not implying anything in the future but hey... you brought it up. Once again, I know what my assignment is (NEIDL site) and I have nothing but respect for you and yours ( thats assuming that you work at the med center ).

All BU guys,

Remember, we are on a public forum. For obvious reasons, any gripes, personal, or BU matters, I would suggest using the PM.

No need to air our business out...........

Well, I guess I should say any further info

Posted by: Out2lunch

I am not a disgruntled Med center officer. Just throwing out ideas and questions. I have been thinking about appling to that site. But they way everyone reacts is amazing. Yes I have checked out the campus. You guys have nice uniforms but no gun I thought you where armed.... I HEARD from 5 people that went to your class that Med center guy road a bike instead of running... Is there any truth to that... I know there is but wanted to see if you answered truthfully... did everyone pass the physical part...
I wish you guys the best.. remember where most of you guys came from

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