| Originally Posted by S0007  It'd be nice if we could get this show on the road. My time is running short |
| Originally Posted by Rock I'm a big fan of Fartleks. |
| Originally Posted by Sircopalot Ok, here is the latest... And this comes from the source as of last week. The Colonel and Academy are pushing hard for a class of 150-200 by the end of the year. And the class will be taken off the last test with scores of 95. They stressed that they don't want to get to 94's as it would result in another 900 backround invest...Letters are going out soon to see who is still interested. Also, there is a push get away from the State Police test and have the the State Police hire off the civil service list...And there you have it.. |
| Originally Posted by Sircopalot Ok, here is the latest... And this comes from the source as of last week. The Colonel and Academy are pushing hard for a class of 150-200 by the end of the year. And the class will be taken off the last test with scores of 95. They stressed that they don't want to get to 94's as it would result in another 900 backround invest...Letters are going out soon to see who is still interested. Also, there is a push get away from the State Police test and have the the State Police hire off the civil service list...And there you have it.. |
| Originally Posted by dcs2244 The 'show' has its own cadence...stand-by to stand-by...there is nothing to be done about it (I still have my rejection-due-to-age letter). Do you mean 'fart-licks'? Some call them 'wind-sprints'. |
| Originally Posted by mc2252 Christ...as much as us locals often hate the State...we sure do talk about it allot. As for rumors...I heard from a 78th trooper and thats good enough for me. God knows the sneaky money grubbing..... would like a new test anyway so all their sons and nephews can get on. My dad was right...shoulda been a CPA... |
| Originally Posted by mc2252 Christ...as much as us locals often hate the State...we sure do talk about it allot. As for rumors...I heard from a 78th trooper and thats good enough for me. God knows the sneaky money grubbing..... would like a new test anyway so all their sons and nephews can get on. My dad was right...shoulda been a CPA... |
| Originally Posted by Rock I'm a big fan of Fartleks. |
| Originally Posted by msp428 Do you really do Fartleks in the academy? LOL I thought I'd never see them again after track. In a strange, sick way I really do like them. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari Sons and nephews? Are you insinuating that you have to be family to get on? |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The new rumor is Deval cut the 80th RTT to fund his new program that gives cash to junkies for turning in their old needles. |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The new rumor is Deval cut the 80th RTT to fund his new program that gives cash to junkies for turning in their old needles. |
| Originally Posted by Deuce No that's just the sheriff's office and Worcester PD.... FWIW, I don't hate you guys.. xoxoxo.... |
| Originally Posted by Rock No we did not do them in the SPA but did do them in the local academy. I know what you mean by "sick". They are a great training tool. |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The new rumor is Deval cut the 80th RTT to fund his new program that gives cash to junkies for turning in their old needles. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari I know you have a poster of Norman Rockwell's The Runaway over your bed and a Glodis sticker on your car |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The new rumor is Deval cut the 80th RTT to fund his new program that gives cash to junkies for turning in their old needles. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari I know you have a poster of Norman Rockwell's The Runaway over your bed |
| Originally Posted by Deuce Damn straight and I give it a smart salute just prior to wedging myself under the covers so come morning reveille I don't muss the hospital corners.. |
| Originally Posted by cj3441 the forecast on deck |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Where is there a ship near New Braintree? |
| Originally Posted by AFchris77 so i'm turning 22 in a couple days...and im starting to realize that this thread will still be here when i'm 34....rumors will still be hitting everyone in the face...there still will not have been anotha RTT...and i'll still be waiting on a test... who's idea was it to higher a guy that defends cop killers? just curious? |
| Originally Posted by AFchris77 haha wow. sorry bout that....it been a long day, worked 1130p-8a last night, then had an asp/oc instructor course til 4p, and now working again tonite 1130p-8a. and ive got a damn yearly qualification test in 2hrs. shouldve invested in some ripped fuel. at this point in time i really hope gustav throws some rain up here and cancels this damn airshow. as much as i love 3 12hr shifts with unpaid mandatory overtime on the weekend of my birthday i'd really like to sleep sometime this week |
| Originally Posted by AFchris77 at this point in time i really hope gustav throws some rain up here and cancels this damn airshow. as much as i love 3 12hr shifts with unpaid mandatory overtime on the weekend of my birthday i'd really like to sleep sometime this week |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Where is there a ship near New Braintree? |
| Originally Posted by AFchris77 i'd really like to sleep sometime this week |
| Originally Posted by GottaRun I'm new to this site. Can you prove that funding was not approved for the 80th RTT? I have an oral interview this month and am going unless the MSP tell me not to. This does concern me though. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari I did 3 deployments while waiting between the written test to Day 1 at the SPA. If you're an old bastard like me when I went through the process, you'd better have Plan B in the works; as in another state or another line of work. |
| Originally Posted by Johnny Law I suppose you could say that this process (for me) is my plan B. |
| Originally Posted by Rock The MSP is your plan B huh? With that attitude don't bother. Wow do I hope the DI's get a hold of that one. |
| Originally Posted by Johnny Law LOL, my point being is I already have a good job, so I won't cry if I DON'T make it. With attitudes like yours, that fosters the "us vs. them" municipal vs. state thing. I don't let the job define me. Insecure much? |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica Johnny Law needs to talk to someone in the 78th RTT about posting on masscops and how it can help you succeed in the SPA. |
| LOL, my point being is I already have a good job, so I won't cry if I DON'T make it. With attitudes like yours, that fosters the "us vs. them" municipal vs. state thing. I don't let the job define me. Insecure much? |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy What happens on day 1 and the first few weeks of the SPA is nothing but a gut check on who really wants to be there. Many military services do the a same thing in their service academies or training programs, and the point is to see who really has the guts to stick it out. A friend of mine has a saying which I feel is applicable to stress inoculation training; "adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it". If one walks into Ranger School, Annapolis, or the MSP academy with the attitude "I don't really care if I succeed", let me give you a hint; you won't. All these troopers are trying to relay is that if the MSP is not your goal, then don't bother coming. I'm not fostering the "us vs. them" mentality, just stating simple facts; the MSP loses between 30-40% during an RTT. Our training methods are what they are, I've never said they were superior, simply different from most other departments, and it suits our needs very well. There are no indicators for who will succeed or who will fail. There have been Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and Coast Guard, many with combat experience, who've resigned. Local police veterans and federal agents. Young and old. PT machines and fat bags. The only thing in common with the graduates is their will to succeed. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica Johnny Law needs to talk to someone in the 78th RTT about posting on masscops and how it can help you succeed in the SPA. |
| Originally Posted by Johnny Law And I can totally respect everything you just posted. Many times it's impossible to relay the tone of a post over the internet, so I wasn't being a wise ass when I said I already have a good job. So why shouldn't I make a step to a great job? SinePari pointed out that most people should have a plan B in place in case this whole thing doesn't go or they don't get picked. A wise statement, especially to those who are not in police work currently. I am fortunate enough to be in police work, so I have that to fall back on if this whole thing doesn't work out. I never said I don't care if I succeed, I wouldn't be in this if I wasn't in it to win. Anything else is wasting the academy's time and my time, and that's not my style. |
| Originally Posted by evanbr33 Big Irish where you?!?!? Thanks for extending my Friday an extra few hours |
| Originally Posted by Johnny Law SinePari pointed out that most people should have a plan B in place in case this whole thing doesn't go or they don't get picked. A wise statement, especially to those who are not in police work currently. |
| Originally Posted by Q5-TPR And for the record, we prefere to be called "that class" |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick I thought it was "the Bad Class"? |
| Originally Posted by evanbr33 Big Irish where you?!?!? Thanks for extending my Friday an extra few hours |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick I thought it was "the Bad Class"? |
| Originally Posted by justanotherparatrooper Ive gotta wonder how many of these post are thought out, if I was trying to get in the SPA I sure hell wouldnt be posting a damn thing on an open forum. The interwebs may seem anonymous but the aint my friends as many of the tools that have posted on this site can swear to....Once its out there, it stays there! |
| Originally Posted by MM1799 Good luck finding one, I heard they were all gone. WHOOPS!.... ...just kidding Rock! |
| Originally Posted by barrakouta Hi all- I just wanted to say that I am also a wannabe recruit (95). I've been waiting as long as the next guy and I would drop everything to become a recruit in the "supposed" 80th RTT. I hope that they give us a shot. I have a lot of friends who are Troopers and a few that have made it through the academy. From the older Troopers to the Boots, they have all respected the academy and training by the Drill Instructors. I've been training just in case the call comes. I actually like the fact that we don't have a clue as to when and if they are having a class. It makes checking the mail that much more exciting. Good luck to us all because we are going to need it. btw - Thanks for all the info that you people have posted. It's helpful and gives us a better understanding as to what we are getting ourselves into. I can't wait!! |
keep checking your mailbox and training I heard from a very good source (my half brother's step sister's old boyfriend's cousin's step father's former wife's brother in law's sister's godfather) that letters were going to go out sometime in the future...... | Originally Posted by d02461 "a few that have made it through the academy"?????? did the rest of the troopers make it through the academy? keep checking your mailbox and training I heard from a very good source (my half brother's step sister's old boyfriend's cousin's step father's former wife's brother in law's sister's godfather) that letters were going to go out sometime in the future...... |
| Originally Posted by 78thrifleman I prefer to think of it as the last real class *ouch* |
| Originally Posted by USMCTrooper you had to be in the final RTT at the real Academy in Framingham......... |
| Originally Posted by Rock With all due respect you old crotchety types.....New Braintree was orig. built to be a prison and it felt that way every day. |
| New Braintree was orig. built to be a prison |
| Originally Posted by Barbrady Any truth to interviews this week and the academy projected Jan-Feb time frame? |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica 68 pages and we continue to march! |
| Originally Posted by d02461 I can't confirm or deny anything but I will say that a very good source said that there will an 80th RTT in the future. Steps
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| Originally Posted by d02461 I can't confirm or deny anything but I will say that a very good source said that there will an 80th RTT in the future. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari Well the state of the commonwealth at this stage leads me to believe that the 79th was the last RTT, and the next class with be the First Massachusetts Municipal/Quasi-Gov't Agency Police/College Cop/Flagger/Tollbooth Worker/Highway Patrol Public Safety Class, which will be held in New Braintree, run by the WCSO of course. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari Well the state of the commonwealth at this stage leads me to believe that the 79th was the last RTT, and the next class with be the First Massachusetts Municipal/Quasi-Gov't Agency Police/College Cop/Flagger/Tollbooth Worker/Highway Patrol Public Safety Class, which will be held in New Braintree, run by the WCSO of course. |
Governor Deval Patrick, faced with a surprisingly tight budget situation, is tempering some of his campaign promises, saying yesterday that he may have to stretch his much touted plan for 1,000 new police officers over several years and stabilize, rather than cut, property taxes.
"We can definitely start, and we will start down the path of adding more cops on the beat, because I think that's critical," Patrick said yesterday.
Last month, he said on a radio station that "we may not need 1,000 cops" all at once.
“OH YEA”, He was for the boys in blue. Taking the details away. I wonder what Muffy would have done.
| Originally Posted by jester76 I have my interview tomorrow for the 80th, will it be just the interview only, or will there be anything else added, like a PAT? Thanks |
| Originally Posted by stgfp Does anyone know how many oral boards were scheduled? |
| Originally Posted by Truck Trooper The proposal is being promoted by the union representing Transit Police officers, who stand to gain higher pay by becoming instant State Police officers. |
| Originally Posted by Truck Trooper Every legislative session ends with work left undone. Among the proposals left behind when the state Legislature ended its formal sessions Aug. 1 is an idea that deserves to be on the agenda for the next session: Merging the MBTA Transit Police into the State Police. The Transit Police is a small organization - 257 officers strong - with a big territory to cover. While most of the crimes the officers must cover are in Boston and neighboring communities served by subways and metro buses, their jurisdiction extends the length of commuter rail lines as well. The MBTA system - and Transit Police jurisdiction - now includes 175 eastern Massachusetts cities and towns. When a car break-in is reported at a commuter rail parking lot in Franklin, for instance, a Transit Police officer must drive out from Boston to investigate. It would be more efficient to put jurisdiction for those lots in the hands of local police or, as the proposal suggests, the state police. Better enforcement in commuter rail parking lots is one of the merger's selling points in the suburbs, but the city would benefit from more officers stationed in the core MBTA service area. The proposal is being promoted by the union representing Transit Police officers, who stand to gain higher pay by becoming instant State Police officers. The Transit Police would live on as a special unit within the State Police assigned to the MBTA transit system, just as a similar State Police unit is responsible for Logan Airport. The attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and especially terrorist attacks since then focused on mass transit systems, demonstrated the need for better coordination between law enforcement agencies. Those concerns should play into this discussion, as should a serious cost-benefit analysis. If there are safety benefits and savings to be gained by this merger, legislators shouldn't let turf battles stand in the way. OH BOY |
| Originally Posted by Truck Trooper The Transit Police would live on as a special unit within the State Police assigned to the MBTA transit system, just as a similar State Police unit is responsible for Logan Airport. |
| i was talkin to one of the state swat guys who comes n works out on my base, what r they called again? s.t.o.p. i think? |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy If they do give a new test, do yourself a favor and complete the "Rosetta Stone" level 1 English language pack first. |
| Originally Posted by bowski_77 hey....just wanted to throw this out there that there are also plenty of us who have already done the oral interview and the p.a.t. ahead of the interviews going on now.....so dont be too excited |
| Originally Posted by Sniper GREAT first post. Don't throw your shoulder out PATting yourself on the back.............. To everyone else. Please be sure to check off the MSP box on the next Civil CIRCUS exam !!!!!!!!! Just keep in mind that BowFlex already has the job in his palm. Make sure he gets front of line priveledges at the exam. |
| Originally Posted by Sniper GREAT first post. Don't throw your shoulder out PATting yourself on the back.............. To everyone else. Please be sure to check off the MSP box on the next Civil CIRCUS exam !!!!!!!!! Just keep in mind that BowFlex already has the job in his palm. Make sure he gets front of line priveledges at the exam. |
+1. | Originally Posted by 78thrifleman It's called being bumped due to seniority. |
| Originally Posted by Sniper So the oral boards went well today............ The members of the board were optimistic and said to keep running. HAHAHAHAHA |
| Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop How do you feel the troopers on the interview board treated you?? |
| Originally Posted by 78thrifleman I was at the SPA today and it seems oral boards are going well. Just a word to the wise: If you do have an oral board scheduled... DO NOT 1) Take 1 last drag of your cigarette just before entering the lobby of the academy 2) Dispose of cigarette on academy lawn 3) Exhale smoke of said last drag inside the academy lobby 4) Walk to the Trooper on the desk and say "You guys have a bathroom here or what?" |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick Trick question? |
| Originally Posted by Monty1997 Hey Johnny Law...We had a couple of those "soup sandwiches" in our group also. Overall however I was generally impressed with the caliber of candidates from a 6 year old test. A lot of good local officers came through our board, all representing themselves and their departments well. Hopefully they will fund this class. |
| Originally Posted by stgfp Are these oral boards from people that have deferred from the previous class or guys that have been overseas? Just wondering. Thanks |
| Originally Posted by 78thrifleman I was at the SPA today and it seems oral boards are going well. Just a word to the wise: If you do have an oral board scheduled... DO NOT 1) Take 1 last drag of your cigarette just before entering the lobby of the academy 2) Dispose of cigarette on academy lawn 3) Exhale smoke of said last drag inside the academy lobby 4) Walk to the Trooper on the desk and say "You guys have a bathroom here or what?" |
| Originally Posted by Dane It was originally built as a Seventh Day Adventist Bible camp before Dukakis started converting it to a minimum security facility. The NIMBY crowd followed him around during the '88 presidential campaign complaining about having a "dangerous prison" in their pristine community. Weld promised them they wouldn't have a prison, and converted it into the SPA. Instead of walkaway cons, the local trogs got early morning cadence and late night mobile riot tactics. And no, it didn't feel like a prison when I was there. I believe prisons have air conditioning and better chow. |
| Originally Posted by Hb13 5) No joke about 15 people walked right into the double doors with about 7 signs on them saying Secure Facility, do not enter, authorized personel only, and the 2 Bright red lettered signs that say Interviews proceed around (not through) this building to the back. |
| Originally Posted by Massguy So did anyone that went to the interview get any information from the panel members about what is to come in the future? Or what they are trying to do and the chances of a class? |
| Originally Posted by wolf9848 I just received my score for the Municipal Police Officer exam in the mail from HRD, it also came with a form that said the following: 1.If you took both the 2007 and 2008 exams, your 2008 exam result will replace your 2007 exam result. 2. In the spring of 2009, HRD will be administering one examination for the three state police officer titles: Municipal Police Officer, MBTA Transit Police Officer, and State Trooper. 3.If you are interested in becoming a State Trooper, you must take the 2009 exam. 4. If you are interested in becoming a Municipal or Transit Police Officer, you may opt not to take the 2009 exam, since your eglibility from the 2008 exam will continue until October 2010, 5. If you take both the 2008 and 2009 exams, your 2009 exam result will replace your 2008 exam result. Information about the Municipal Police Officer, MBTA Transit Police Officer and State Trooper Examination will be available at the HRD website by Nov 1, 2008. |
| Originally Posted by Deuce I heard the "L" word used.. Laterals.. As a cost saving measure.. Heehee, just kiddin ya fockers..... |
| Originally Posted by wolf9848 I just received my score for the Municipal Police Officer exam in the mail from HRD, it also came with a form that said the following: 1.If you took both the 2007 and 2008 exams, your 2008 exam result will replace your 2007 exam result. 2. In the spring of 2009, HRD will be administering one examination for the three state police officer titles: Municipal Police Officer, MBTA Transit Police Officer, and State Trooper. 3.If you are interested in becoming a State Trooper, you must take the 2009 exam. 4. If you are interested in becoming a Municipal or Transit Police Officer, you may opt not to take the 2009 exam, since your eglibility from the 2008 exam will continue until October 2010, 5. If you take both the 2008 and 2009 exams, your 2009 exam result will replace your 2008 exam result. Information about the Municipal Police Officer, MBTA Transit Police Officer and State Trooper Examination will be available at the HRD website by Nov 1, 2008. |
| Originally Posted by AdamJ1984 Thimios, how did you find out the confirming information? I know we have spoken in the past, but I am curious as this was a rumor that now seems to have become a truth. Thanks |
| Originally Posted by AdamJ1984 Thimios, how did you find out the confirming information? I know we have spoken in the past, but I am curious as this was a rumor that now seems to have become a truth. Thanks |
| Originally Posted by Johnny Law Also confirmed through Mr. Flynn at the oral boards, right from his mouth. |
| Originally Posted by Sniper I'm not going to believe it unless you have it on audiotape............ |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica Also, I wouldn't count on the hiring process or standards changing, just the venue of the exam. There will still be RTTs for now. |