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Posted by: JKeco

I just read some old posts and thought that someone here might be able to help me. I really want to join the EP and I almost took the test in 2005 but skipping a long story...I didn't. Of course I didn't look into it too well and thought there would be another test the next year. NOPE!!! This is really what I want to do and what I went to school for. Does anyone have any inside information as to when there will be another test? I already have more than the required environmental experience and I just want to do the job I've always wanted to do.

Posted by: Boxer3

I spoke with an EPO the other day. I was told that they are overdue for another test. However, that being said ... they may be hiring a few more off of this old/active list. I guess only a handfull passed the last one!

Good luck!!

Posted by: Tuna

JKeco, what type of "required environmental experience" do you have?

Posted by: pahapoika

that was one crazy test years back

what's the warmest part of a ice covered pond ?

what are the gunwales on a boat ?

what is the life span of the atlantic sea bass ?

etc, etc............

got something like a 68 on that test. you need to be part marine biologist , part ship captain , part game warden all rolled into one

Posted by: RodneyFarva

Well... how long does the atlantic sea bass live?

Posted by: Deputydog522

I was told that I would have a better chance of seeing God than getting on the Environmental police in Mass. I knew someone that was a dispatcher there and had a degree in Environmental Science and a Masters degree in land management. This person studied every day for the Mass Environmental police Exam. He got a 97 and he was turned down for a guy that was on the Coast Guard who got a 79 on the exam. So he quit the EPO and went to Florida and he is now a Fish and Game Officer in Florida and loves it. They like to hire Coast Guard and other family members that have no experience and should not be cops!!

Posted by: Foxy85

Sounds like a typical state agency of Massachusetts lol

Posted by: C73

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I was told that I would have a better chance of seeing God than getting on the Environmental police in Mass. I knew someone that was a dispatcher there and had a degree in Environmental Science and a Masters degree in land management. This person studied every day for the Mass Environmental police Exam. He got a 97 and he was turned down for a guy that was on the Coast Guard who got a 79 on the exam. So he quit the EPO and went to Florida and he is now a Fish and Game Officer in Florida and loves it. They like to hire Coast Guard and other family members that have no experience and should not be cops!!

Run that by me again.... I guess you are real tight with this guy who went to Florida... That would explain why he forgot to call you and mention that he's been on the job here in Mass as an EPO for three years now. I don't know where the family member comment comes from?? But as far as the Coast Guard not having any experience?? You do realize that that EPO's are the Marine Patrol for the state, and enforce all Federal and State marine fisheries regulations. Let's see Coast Guard = Boats and Maritime law enforcement, but I guess that is not experience. As far the "shoud not be cops" statement I will avoid anything scandalous llike bobbing for crotch apples but after 10 years USCG and ten years as an EPO, my stats speak for themselves... By the way I could have sworn that in an earlier post about EPO's, you were an expert on the agency b/c you had been a dispatcher. Now its your friend that was dispatcher...

C73

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It is very hard to get in with them. I used to work as a dispatcher for them and know all about it. PM for more info.

There I knew I had read that from you before. I'll take Delta's lead here and do a little calling out here... DeputyDog522 What PD do you work for and what is your experience?
C73

Posted by: Foxy85

I'm no sherlock holmes, but if I had to guess, I'd say he was an SPCA law enforcement officer.....either that or he just really likes their patch....

Posted by: WaterPistola

"the principles of detection tell me he works for the SPCA"

...oops already pointed out...sorry foxy

but yeah that sounds like a police entry test that you definitely must study for.

Posted by: quality617

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Originally Posted by Foxy85

I'm no sherlock holmes, but if I had to guess, I'd say he was an SPCA law enforcement officer.....either that or he just really likes their patch....

He apparently likes the patch, seeing as it was me that made it into an avitar and started using it. But no, he's not one of ours.

Posted by: 94c

Oh my, a dog whacker.

Posted by: C73

So I guess Sherlock and principles of detection are as all knowing as they think... Thanks qulality for clarifying, I wondered why the name didn't match the patch.

C73

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by 94c

Oh my, a dog whacker.

Certainly not the first one....remember the lunatic with the "Animal Ambulance 1" plates?

Posted by: MM1799

C73 whether it's crotch apple comments or this thread; thanks for the entertainment!

Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by pahapoika

what's the warmest part of a ice covered pond ?

Well, I would say the water? the coldest it can be is 32* which is the temp it freezes. the warmest part is most likely the bottom of the pond (away from the ice).

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Originally Posted by pahapoika

what are the gunwales on a boat ?

top edge of a boat's sides. i wouldn't have known that if i hadn't taken a boating safety course in the past.

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Originally Posted by pahapoika

what is the life span of the atlantic sea bass ?

you got me on that one. who really cares anyway. EPOs are law enforcement officers...well...enforcing laws, not a marine biologist trying to determine the limit on the number of fish a fisherman can keep based on different factors such as their life span.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by resqjyw0

I can think of a couple of reasons why EPO's should know that....if they start finding Atlantic sea bass dead in a certain are before they should be dead of old age, there might be an environmental concern.

I never knew what the minimum length for a striped bass was until I was called to a complaint of someone catching short stripers. I had the dispatcher call the environmental police and learned that it's 28 inches.

Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by Delta784

I never knew what the minimum length for a striped bass was until I was called to a complaint of someone catching short stripers. I had the dispatcher call the environmental police and learned that it's 28 inches.

worse thing the state ever did was drop it from 32" to 28".

for anyone that has some time and thinks it may be possible to get called in for a situation that deals with hunting or fishing laws, like Delta did, and would like to have an idea, here is the current year's "abstracts" on the state's hunting and fishing laws. Local and state police are called, not often but, frequent enough that it is nice to know the laws if you don't have them in your cruiser.

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dfw/regul..._abstracts.pdf

and the marine fisheries regs (click on section link for full-text):

http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/comme.../cmr_index.htm

Posted by: quality617

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what's the warmest part of a ice covered pond ?

Usually the part you are currently standing on.

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what are the gunwales on a boat ?

The part where you mount the whale hunting guns.

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what is the life span of the atlantic sea bass ?

Depends on how good a fisherman you are.

Thank you folks, I'm outta here!!! Please tip your waitress!!!

Posted by: Tuna

Deputydog522; you haven't a clue what you are talking about. No, MEP does not hire just Coastguard or family members. I am neither and have been on for 14 years, (17 total in LE) You say we shouldn't be LEO's. Where do you get off making that statement? You obviously know nothing about the job. The Dept. hires allot of Coasties (approx. 20%) because of their prior experience with marine operations but they have to pass the test just like anyone else. I don't know of any family members other that 1 set of brothers and a father son situation and I bet you can find that on any PD. Any time you want you can follow me around while I play with drunks with guns in the woods. Or maybe do a boat accident fatality investigation. Deputydog522, you strike me as someone who has tested for many dept. and never got a call back. Didn't you study or are you a true WACKER? Do you dream about someday being a cop and impressing your friends? Do you drive around in a surplus Crown Vic? Please let us know what Dept. you work for, I'm interested. And FOXY85, what's with you, "typical state agency", MEP is anything but typical. Maybe at top management somewhat, but not the officers who work the field. Now you want to talk about political hackisim you need not to look any further than your own little kingdom of HACKS but your little reign of terror is ending soon, trust me. I'm Tuna and I approve this message.
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Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Tuna

are you a true WACKER? YES

Do you dream about someday being a cop and impressing your friends? YES

Do you drive around in a surplus Crown Vic? YES

.

Another internet cop exposed. Good Job.

Posted by: mikemac64

The EPO who covers my area is niether a former USCG nor has any relatives on thst job. He is also good guy and is always available for a consult in person or via telephone.

Couldn't ask for anything more.

Posted by: emerlad

I was eating a late morning breakfast a few months ago, the two EPO's that were sitting across were talking about Jet Ski trainning..
Legislature appears to hate EPO's/ Parole though. Contract is very old.

Posted by: Foxy85

They hate any state agency they have to give pay raises to.

Posted by: C73

I taught that jet ski training at Lake Quinsig. If you have the right conditions it is one of the most efficient ways of conducting Marine L/E. It provides fast response without a huge wake for crowded events (greasy pole in Gloucester, Esplanade, etc.), fast response search and rescue especially in surf conditions, is the best way to handle Jet ski problem areas, and lastly is very efficient for normal boating safety boardings. Another Officer and I left the Sandwich Basin and travelled down to Sesuit Harbor and back on the skiis. We conducted over 60 recreational boat boardings which netted Stripe bass V's, boating safety V's, a 94c case, and one underway rest area, Sen. Craig meets Gillligan situation. There were no violations of the marine mammal protection act in the last one so we cleared.
The Skiis are to Maritime Law Enforcement what a M/C unit is to traffic enforcement. Just a lot tougher to keep the duty belt oiled and rust free.

C73

Posted by: PBC FL Cop

The EPO test was the toughest LEO test I've ever taken, God bless you folks that past it!!!!

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop

The EPO test was the toughest LEO test I've ever taken, God bless you folks that past it!!!!

I took it over 20 years ago....scored somewhere in the 50's or 60's.

Posted by: JKeco

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Originally Posted by Tuna

JKeco, what type of "required environmental experience" do you have?

I have a Bachelors in Marine Safety & Environmental Protection plus 1.5 years in Hazardous Waste Management and 1 year and counting in Environmental Health and Safety. I believe all I need to actually take the test is 2 years experience which the 4 yr degree covers

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Originally Posted by Boxer3

I spoke with an EPO the other day. I was told that they are overdue for another test. However, that being said ... they may be hiring a few more off of this old/active list. I guess only a handfull passed the last one!

Good luck!!

Thanks for the info

Posted by: Tuna

JKeco, you got the qual's now score high on the test, pass the interview board, psyc exam, pass the academy, pass your FTO program, buy lunch and lots of coffees for the senior officers and your in. Oh ya, veterans status helps allot. Good Luck

Posted by: C73

JKECO,
Absolutely take the test and score well and you should be looking good.

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I was told that I would have a better chance of seeing God than getting on the Environmental police in Mass.

Unlike some other people on here, DeputyDog552 or should I say Brad P., who didn't realize that the reason they have a better chance of seeing God than getting hired as an EPO was b/c they couldn't even hack it as an EPO dispatcher never mind as an EPO. Then they tried the Fed's and some how ended up as dockboy handling mooring lines down in Hingham....But hey what business does a Coastie having being a cop.
Semper Paratus

C73

Posted by: Foxy85

Errr....that totaly sucks.....Let that be a lesson to you all.....

Posted by: Boxer3

I totally agree with Mikemac64. The EPOs are my area (northshore) are a great group of guys/gals. I have always gotten a call back and a heads up on a variety of issues. I respect what they do 100%, having personally been out in the woods with a dozen + hunters, who by the way are half in the bag and have 15 + shotguns/rifles. Talk about pucker factor!

Those running their mouths about them .... maybe when you get on the job and know what it's about, you will appreciate all levels of L/E. It's a great feeling when you see another agency in your rearview ... while on a car stop. In my experience, that vehicle on many occasions, has been a Green Ford F-150.

Posted by: mikemac64

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Originally Posted by Boxer3

I totally agree with Mikemac64

Finally someone has come to their senses!!!!

Posted by: MM7918

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Originally Posted by Deputydog522

This is my point exactly on why Veterans should not be getting as much preference as they do.

Posted by: Tuna

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Originally Posted by MM7918

This is my point exactly on why Veterans should not be getting as much preference as they do.

First off DD522 has no clue what he is talking about. That high scorer IS on the job and yes, Veterans do get preference in this Dept to get on but that being said there are many non vets on also. Don't listen to DD522 he couldn't hack it as a dispatcher for our Dept. never mind an officer. DD522 is just your every day generic wacker with a surplus crown vic. driving around looking to join up with CMPS or what ever the're called now. Hey DD522 call a guy by the name of Mike Barill, he will set you up and stay off this site. We got you figured out. Hey MM7918 you may want to be carful about opening up this can in regards to Veterans preference. You could feel some heat coming from Vets.

Posted by: kojack1

MM7918---- are you veteran??

Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by kojack1

MM7918---- are you veteran??

No he is not he took the easy way hiding in college playing sports

Posted by: redsox03

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Originally Posted by kojack1

MM7918---- are you veteran??

Nope.

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Originally Posted by MM7918

I ended up getting a baseball scholarship and that honestly made me realize what "teamwork" and "sacrifice" was all about. Playing at that level was like a full time job itself, plus taking classes.

Vets got nothing on this guy. He's been though so much, I can't even imagine how hard that must of been.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by kojack1

MM7918---- are you veteran??

People who bitch about veteran's preference never are.

Posted by: MM7918

Who's bitching? I just don't agree with the amount of preference they get.You could have a kid who went to school for ciminal justice and has wanted to be a cop all his life get passed by a veteran who just simply takes the test for the heck of it. (this is just one situation, not referring to all) Red Sox, were you ever an athlete? Probably not. My point was that I was not partying all through college. Playing a sport in Div 1 sucks. You have to devote a lot of time into it while maintaining good grades. So you're right, Vets got nothing on me. I'll respect someone who is good on the job, regardless of whether they're a vet or have a fucking masters degree.
Don't fucking act all tough either...I've done a lot more for this country since 9/12/01 when my team got activated for NYC.
KFlatBed, I took the easy way out? Just because I chose to go to college? Maybe you're the one who chose the "hard way." Remember individuals make their own choices. I would fucking smack you in the face if you ever showed me disrespect to my face.

Posted by: screamineagle

wow, 8 posts and your threatening to smack a mod in the face. way to go fuckhead. And as far as I am concerned, as a veteran, YOU oughta get smacked for disrepecting any and all veterans. Doesn't matter if you were or werent partying thru college, you cannot compare the military to baseball camp. You devoted a lot of time to getting good grades and hitting a ball, I devoted ALL my time into getting me and my guys home in one piece.

Posted by: adroitcuffs

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Originally Posted by MM7918

Who's bitching? I just don't agree with the amount of preference they get.You could have a kid who went to school for ciminal justice and has wanted to be a cop all his life get passed by a veteran who just simply takes the test for the heck of it. (this is just one situation, not referring to all) Red Sox, were you ever an athlete? Probably not. My point was that I was not partying all through college. Playing a sport in Div 1 sucks. You have to devote a lot of time into it while maintaining good grades. So you're right, Vets got nothing on me. I'll respect someone who is good on the job, regardless of whether they're a vet or have a fucking masters degree.
Don't fucking act all tough either...I've done a lot more for this country since 9/12/01 when my team got activated for NYC.
KFlatBed, I took the easy way out? Just because I chose to go to college? Maybe you're the one who chose the "hard way." Remember individuals make their own choices. I would fucking smack you in the face if you ever showed me disrespect to my face.

Who's bitching? You clearly are, in more than one thread. I can respect a difference of opinion, when the person espousing said difference of opinion is articulate and respectful. Sadly, you have displayed neither quality here. The ignorance of individuals like you never ceases to amaze me. You can't even respect the men and women who have sacrificed in their daily lives, ready to give their own life at a moment's notice so an ingrate like you can have freedom of speech. Vets got nothing on you?? The sheer audacity of that statement alone floors me. Who knows what you mean when you refer to your "team" getting activated -- does that mean you were "on call", or did you get your pretty little throwing arm dirty?? Regardless of what your status was at that time, it pales in comparison to the greater sacrifice of those you so willingly disrespect.

I would have loved to play baseball in college. Hell, I would've loved to have been able to go to college straight from high school. My family couldn't even afford for me to play little league. Choice? I think not, for if it was my choice, my father would not have died of a heart attack when I was a young child and I would not have "chosen" to grow up in the conditions in which I did. I did not "choose" a harder life, it was given to me. With my grades and I.Q., I certainly qualified for scholarships but that doesn't pay the rent or put food on the table. I had to work full time in high school, just to have the basics. Don't misunderstand me, I don't begrudge anyone who had a different opportunity because of those I did not, but I absolutely abhor the cavalier attitude you have been displaying here. There are plenty of proud Americans who had very blessed lives who oh so honorably chose to serve their country.

And lastly, how DARE you make such a threat to "fucking smack" a respected member of this board. Disagree all you want, but to make such a threat is utterly unacceptable. Perhaps you didn't make the big leagues because you lacked the discipline -- or were too busy getting into fights because someone "disrespected" you.

My advice to you -- stand by to stand by...

Posted by: wgciv

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Originally Posted by MM7918

Who's bitching? I just don't agree with the amount of preference they get.
So you're right, Vets got nothing on me.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
- George Orwell

Posted by: Tuna

Hey MM7918 you may want to be carful about opening up this can in regards to Veterans preference. You could feel some heat coming from Vets.

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Hey MM7918I think you have gone a little far with your retoric. I told you the heat would come. As far as making threats on this forum your head is a mess if you really think that way. If you want to smack someone maybe you should have joined up to one of the military branches. Oh ya I'm a Vet and I'm insulted at your statement about vets have "nothing on me". You know nothing about me, where I've been or what I've done. You may want to rethink your post, print a retraction, apologize and cool off. Maybe we can get back on topic. The Ma Environmental Police are under attack by a political power play and we need support.

Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by MM7918

Who's bitching? I just don't agree with the amount of preference they get.You could have a kid who went to school for ciminal justice and has wanted to be a cop all his life get passed by a veteran who just simply takes the test for the heck of it. (this is just one situation, not referring to all) Red Sox, were you ever an athlete? Probably not. My point was that I was not partying all through college. Playing a sport in Div 1 sucks. You have to devote a lot of time into it while maintaining good grades. So you're right, Vets got nothing on me. I'll respect someone who is good on the job, regardless of whether they're a vet or have a fucking masters degree.
Don't fucking act all tough either...I've done a lot more for this country since 9/12/01 when my team got activated for NYC.
KFlatBed, I took the easy way out? Just because I chose to go to college? Maybe you're the one who chose the "hard way." Remember individuals make their own choices. I would fucking smack you in the face if you ever showed me disrespect to my face.

(Replying as a member not as a moderator

Scumbag I am a proud veteran who had the balls to step up to the plate and serve my country unlike you hiding under mamas apron and in the locker room shower with the rest of your kind.

A MAN steps up and does what is needed to protect his country and family
a coward takes the easy way out and we all know which path you took.

WTC I will match the hours that I spent in NYC with you any day in the week and I wasn't there serving coffee.

At 66 years old,and as a proud veteran,my little scumbag coward you can find me very easy,I have NO RESPECT for cowards like you who hide behind
a keyboard and would NEVER HAVE THE BALLS to meet face to face or try to smack me in the face, you would put your tail between your legs and run
like the coward that you have shown that you are.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by MM7918

I would fucking smack you in the face if you ever showed me disrespect to my face.

You'd smack an elderly man in the face?

Real tough guy.....here's to hoping you're NEVER hired by a police department, we have enough problem children as it is.

Posted by: 5-0

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Originally Posted by MM7918

Who's bitching? I just don't agree with the amount of preference they get.You could have a kid who went to school for ciminal justice and has wanted to be a cop all his life get passed by a veteran who just simply takes the test for the heck of it. (this is just one situation, not referring to all) Red Sox, were you ever an athlete? Probably not. My point was that I was not partying all through college. Playing a sport in Div 1 sucks. You have to devote a lot of time into it while maintaining good grades. So you're right, Vets got nothing on me. I'll respect someone who is good on the job, regardless of whether they're a vet or have a fucking masters degree.
Don't fucking act all tough either...I've done a lot more for this country since 9/12/01 when my team got activated for NYC.
KFlatBed, I took the easy way out? Just because I chose to go to college? Maybe you're the one who chose the "hard way." Remember individuals make their own choices. I would fucking smack you in the face if you ever showed me disrespect to my face.

Wow. You're really bitter aren't you. The problem with your analogy is that you completely failed... What if the veteran went to the military with the express intent of becoming a military P.O. so that he/she could get on the job? It would actually be more unfair if the college student got the job by your standards. You really fail at life on this forum, and should stop typing.

You are really drinking the Kool-Aid if you are comparing an athlete (regardless of the division) to the sacrifices that a soldier makes. There are plenty of opportunities for non-vets to get work here in the state, and thousands more out of state.

No one here is about to shit all over college students, except when they come on and talk out of their ass like you. Am I going to get smacked in the face too? I work out in New Braintree.

Posted by: kwflatbed

"You'd smack an elderly man in the face? "

Who the hell are you calling elderly LOL
Thanks Bruce

Posted by: redsox03

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Originally Posted by MM7918

So you're right, Vets got nothing on me.

Why don't you take a trip down to Walter Reed and tell all the Vets who are burned over 70% of their body, blind, or missing both legs from IEDs, how they "got nothing on you"? While your there, you can entertain them with your story of true "sacrifice" from when you played baseball.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by kwflatbed

"You'd smack an elderly man in the face? "

Who the hell are you calling elderly LOL
Thanks Bruce

You know I meant that in the most respectful and affectionate way possible, Harry.

Posted by: redsox03

I personally have seen this guy running by my unit during PT at Ft. Bragg. When we run at Bragg, it's 6-8 miles, not 2 laps around the baseball field. He's got nothing on you though MM7918, right?

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — George Perez still feels the sweat between his toes when he exercises. He's still plagued with nagging cramps in his calf muscle. And sometimes, when he gets out of bed at night without thinking, he topples over.

Perez, 21, lost his leg to a roadside bomb in Iraq more than a year ago, but despite the phantom pains that haunt him, he says he is determined to prove to the Army that he is no less of a man — and no less of a soldier.
"I'm not ready to get out yet," he says. "I'm not going to let this little injury stop me from what I want to do."
Perez is one of at least four amputees from the elite 82nd Airborne Division to re-enlist. With a new carbon-fiber prosthetic leg, Perez intends to show a medical board he can run an eight-minute mile, jump out of airplanes and pass all the other paratrooper tests that will allow him to go with his regiment to Afghanistan next year.
On Sept. 14, 2003, Perez, of Carteret, N.J., and seven other members of his squad were rumbling down a road outside Fallujah when a bomb blast rocked their Humvee. Perez recalls flying through the air and hitting the ground hard. The blast killed one of Perez's comrades. Perez felt surprisingly little pain, but when he tried to get up, he couldn't. He saw that his left foot was folded backward onto his knee. His size 12 1/2 combat boot stood in the dusty road a few feet away, still laced.
A photograph of Perez's lonely boot transmitted around the world and spread across two pages of Time magazine became a stark reminder that the war in Iraq was far from over.

Doctors initially tried to save part of Perez's foot. But an infection crept up his leg, and Perez agreed to allow the amputation below the knee joint.
"I was going to stay in no matter what," he recalls telling the surgeons. "Do whatever would get me back fastest."
Perez was left with a rounded stump that fits into the suction cup of the black carbon-fiber prosthetic leg.
When he arrived at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., for his rehabilitation, Perez asked a pair of generals who visited his bedside if it was possible for him to stay in the Army.
"They told me, 'It's all up to you, how much you want it,' " he says. "If I could do everything like a regular soldier, I could stay in."
He wasted little time getting started. At one point, a visitor found him doing push-ups in bed. He trained himself to walk normally with his new leg and then run with it.
Perez has to rise at least an hour earlier than his fellow soldiers to allow swelling from the previous day's training to subside enough for his stump to fit into the prosthetic.
But it is a comfort for Perez to know he's not alone.
At least three other paratroopers in the 82nd have lost limbs in combat during the past two years and re-enlisted. One of them, Staff Sgt. Daniel Metzdorf, lost his right leg above the knee in a Jan. 27 blast. He appealed three times before the fitness board allowed him to stay on.
"I think it's a testimony to today's professional Army," says division commander Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell. "I also think, deep down, it is a love for their other paratroopers."
In July, amputee program manager Chuck Scoville of Walter Reed told a congressional committee that amputations accounted for 2.4 percent of all wounded in action in the Iraq war — twice the rate in World Wars I and II.
Perez is one of about 160 service members who have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan who have passed through Walter Reed's amputee patient program. The military says it does not track the number who choose to stay in the service.
"It isn't something that historically we've had to deal with a whole lot," says Lt. Col. Frank Christopher, the surgeon for the 82nd Airborne.
Today, Perez looks every bit the part of paratrooper — tall, in ripped-ab shape and serious-looking. His uniform is sharply creased, his maroon beret sits at an exact angle above one eye and the black leather boot on his good leg gleams with a mirror shine. The only thing that sets him apart at a glance is the white running shoe on his prosthetic leg.
Perez has to go before another medical fitness board to determine whether he will be allowed to jump again. He also must pass the fitness test for his age — run two miles in just under 16 minutes and do at least 42 push-ups and 53 sit-ups in two-minute stretches.
For now, he must content himself with a job maintaining M-16s and M-4s, machine guns and grenade launchers in his company's armory. But his dream is to attend the grueling Ranger school at Fort Benning, Ga., a serious challenge to even the most able-bodied soldier. "I got a lot of things to do," he said. "I want to do as much as I can, as much as they'll let me."

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by redsox03

Don't bother with this fool....it would be easy to say that those who never served don't understand, but I work with a lot of guys who were never in the military who are the first to give vets their due.

At this point I have to say it's a simple character flaw.

Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by Delta784

To me it sounds like IF MM7918 is a U.S.Marshal someone failed in
doing the BI on him.

Posted by: Sniper

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Originally Posted by Delta784

Yah....... SIMPLY unacceptable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: new guy

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Originally Posted by Delta784

I'm glad you said that. This poor excuse for a college graduate does not represent the millions of civilians who truly value and appreciate our veterans and he should stand alone with his dumbass comments. PS, I think KW could take him.

Posted by: Kevin

Take him where ?

Posted by: new guy

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Originally Posted by Kevin

Take him where ?

I think Chrome Dome / Dirty Harry / BU Observer, got himself yet another user name.

Posted by: Kevin

How about you take him to a rest area, or one of those Ell center rest rooms you're so fond of ?

Posted by: USMCMP5811

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Originally Posted by MM7918

Who's bitching?

Funny ball bag,it seems to be you

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Originally Posted by MM7918

Don't fucking act all tough either...I've done a lot more for this country since 9/12/01 when my team got activated for NYC.

Hey Douchbag, Who's the one acting all E-Tough? and I've been doing a lot more for my country since LONG before 9/11/01. and ooooooooohhhhh, so you got activated on 9/12/01. What, to play a double headder the following week? Tell you what asshat, why don't you go back to doing what you do best, Meat gazing in the mens locker room showers.

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Originally Posted by MM7918

KFlatBed, I took the easy way out? Just because I chose to go to college? Maybe you're the one who chose the "hard way." Remember individuals make their own choices. I would fucking smack you in the face if you ever showed me disrespect to my face.

Ya know, I'd love to see that. In fact after Harry cleans your clock, I'll personaly lock your retarded ass up for Feloney A+B on a person over 60.

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Originally Posted by Kevin

How about you take him to a rest area, or one of those Ell center rest rooms you're so fond of ?

And just who in the blue hell are you noob? trust me, you don't want to get involved in this.

Posted by: KozmoKramer

You get a Gold Star New Guy...
He's just about ready to be put through the uprights the same way (as USMCMP5811 so eloquently puts it) the Ballbag has...

Posted by: Sniper

Somebody sprinkled a little Testosterone in the Gatorade after the last JV baseball game !!!!!!!!!! OBVIOUSLY even the CHEERLEADERS were sippin on a little ..........

Posted by: new guy

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Originally Posted by KozmoKramer

You get a Gold Star New Guy...
He's just about ready to be put through the uprights the same way (as USMCMP5811 so eloquently puts it) the Ballbag has...

It's nice to see our moderators exacting swift justice. Nice work

Posted by: PaulKersey

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Originally Posted by kwflatbed

To me it sounds like IF MM7918 is a U.S.Marshal .

Absolutely not!

Posted by: Edmizer1

I once promised myself that I would never get into the vet pref debate. I am not a veteran. I am against the absolute vet pref as it stands. The state police system of adding some sort of additional points would be better. I have seen what I believe as a significant amount of abuses over the years. My brother was in the navy and never came within a thousand miles of combat but was considered a vet by MA civil service. He never had a thought in the back of his head of becoming a firefighter. He backed out of the Boston FD job at the last second. His attitude was that if they were going to hand it to him, he was going to take it until something better came along. I grew up with a friend who never left MA except for basic training in the reserves. He was told by people in his unit that they were considered combat verterans in MA because he was in training when his unit was activated even though he wasn't with them. He couldn't believe he was a veteran and brought the paperwork to Ashburton Place where they confirmed it. He is now on Boston PD. I won't mention a couple of "disabled vet" super pref status cases I've heard about. These are just a couple of examples. Most of the vet pref guys in my academy were excellent hires. There were definately some there who would never have considered a police job without the pref. I'm sure some were there because the fire dept didn't call them first. Its hard to reform the system right now because it isn't fair to the Iraq vets coming out. When the Iraq vets trickle down in a few years, there should be some reform to the absolute pref system.

Posted by: quality617

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Originally Posted by Edmizer1

I once promised myself that I would never get into the vet pref debate. I am not a veteran. I am against the absolute vet pref as it stands. The state police system of adding some sort of additional points would be better. I have seen what I believe as a significant amount of abuses over the years. My brother was in the navy and never came within a thousand miles of combat but was considered a vet by MA civil service. He never had a thought in the back of his head of becoming a firefighter. He backed out of the Boston FD job at the last second. His attitude was that if they were going to hand it to him, he was going to take it until something better came along. I grew up with a friend who never left MA except for basic training in the reserves. He was told by people in his unit that they were considered combat verterans in MA because he was in training when his unit was activated even though he wasn't with them. He couldn't believe he was a veteran and brought the paperwork to Ashburton Place where they confirmed it. He is now on Boston PD. I won't mention a couple of "disabled vet" super pref status cases I've heard about. These are just a couple of examples. Most of the vet pref guys in my academy were excellent hires. There were definately some there who would never have considered a police job without the pref. I'm sure some were there because the fire dept didn't call them first. Its hard to reform the system right now because it isn't fair to the Iraq vets coming out. When the Iraq vets trickle down in a few years, there should be some reform to the absolute pref system.

There are always examples like this. I've seen guys score in the 90's that couldn't tie a shoe or operate a doorknob without a spotter.

But the bottom line is, even though some vets didn't see any hot spots, they still made the commitment. They were ready to go if called, at a pay scale that would make a fast food worker scream, and gave up time that could have been spent with family, which is time you never get back.

They have already shown their loyalty to duty, and deserve every preference available to them.

Yes, I am a vet.

Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by JKeco

I just read some old posts and thought that someone here might be able to help me. I really want to join the EP and I almost took the test in 2005 but skipping a long story...I didn't. Of course I didn't look into it too well and thought there would be another test the next year. NOPE!!! This is really what I want to do and what I went to school for. Does anyone have any inside information as to when there will be another test? I already have more than the required environmental experience and I just want to do the job I've always wanted to do.

See what you started?

You asked a simple question that turned into a 16 car pile up with at least one fatality...

Posted by: Tuna

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Originally Posted by 94c

See what you started?

You asked a simple question that turned into a 16 car pile up with at least one fatality...

Yes, but the fatality was nessarsary

Posted by: Q5-TPR

Hey Tuna, do u guys give Vet Preferance on you test? If it has already been answered I appologize, my brain is kinda like jello right now. Well, that really isn't different than any other time, but i guess I am a little tired.

Posted by: dh18

The EPO A/B exam does give a vet preferance, and after the last exam was given the passing score was lower from 70% to 60% which almost doubled the number of vets at the top of the list.

Posted by: Tuna

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Originally Posted by dh18

The EPO A/B exam does give a vet preferance, and after the last exam was given the passing score was lower from 70% to 60% which almost doubled the number of vets at the top of the list.

what He said, I'm a mess

this is my Saturday

Posted by: Q5-TPR

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Originally Posted by Tuna

what He said, I'm a mess

this is my Saturday

LOL, well have a frosty one for me will ya. My saturday won't be for another couple of months!

Posted by: Tuna

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Originally Posted by Q5-TPR

LOL, well have a frosty one for me will ya. My saturday won't be for another couple of months!

Yes, we have Vet pref. Good luck and stay safe.

Posted by: JKeco

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Originally Posted by 94c

See what you started?

You asked a simple question that turned into a 16 car pile up with at least one fatality...

I can see that...

Posted by: JKeco

I saw that the promotional exam for EPO's was recently posted...Does anyone know if this is usually followed by an A/B exam in the not so distant future?

Posted by: dh18

The rumor is that there will be a A/B exam at the same time as the promotional exam in June, but nothing has been made official yet. So keep an eye on the HRD website because it may suddenly appear.

Posted by: docdpl

I'm interested in the MEP and will definitely take test next time its offered, but I was wondering about how officers get assigned. I'm already a licensed captain and have been operating passenger boats in Boston for 6 years, including a year under the tutelage of an ex-MEP officer who now runs ferries as his retirement job (you might know who I mean) and I have some college coursework in environmental science. (still working on finishing the degree)
I plan on studying my ass off and trying to get that degree completed and see how I do on the test. Does merchant marine experience and a coast guard license carry any weight when it comes down to hiring and/or assignment?? I'd really prefer to be on the boats than inland doing game enforcement, but I understand that EPOs wear many hats and are assigned all over the state. Any insight would be appreciated!

Posted by: csauce777

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Originally Posted by docdpl

I'd really prefer to be on the boats than inland doing game enforcement, but I understand that EPOs wear many hats and are assigned all over the state.

Talk to C73...he works inland and locks people up like it's going out of style...never mind game enforcement. The state forests offer different types of game

Posted by: Tuna

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Originally Posted by docdpl

I'm interested in the MEP and will definitely take test next time its offered, but I was wondering about how officers get assigned. I'm already a licensed captain and have been operating passenger boats in Boston for 6 years, including a year under the tutelage of an ex-MEP officer who now runs ferries as his retirement job (you might know who I mean) and I have some college coursework in environmental science. (still working on finishing the degree)
I plan on studying my ass off and trying to get that degree completed and see how I do on the test. Does merchant marine experience and a coast guard license carry any weight when it comes down to hiring and/or assignment?? I'd really prefer to be on the boats than inland doing game enforcement, but I understand that EPOs wear many hats and are assigned all over the state. Any insight would be appreciated!

Take the test. Officers are assigned by bid process. Finish the degree. Your experience with boats will weigh well for you at the interview board. Don't worry about where you will be assigned, if you get on you will (99% chance) be put on the coast as your first district. And yes, we do wear many hats. Keeps the job interesting. PM me if I can help further. Goodluck

Posted by: mpd61

I was #2 on the list from the previous 02' test and never heard a thing. When the list expired, I think in 06', it was frustrating to say the least!

Posted by: Tuna

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Originally Posted by mpd61

I was #2 on the list from the previous 02' test and never heard a thing. When the list expired, I think in 06', it was frustrating to say the least!

Did you get an interview?

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