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Posted by: davejoyce2000

Hello, anybody know if and when the MBTA is going to hire more recruits for their next academy? When was the last time they hired recruits? How often do they usually hire a year?


Posted by: kojack1

Transit hires on a regular basis, almost guarenteed that if the "T" academy is in session they have recruits in it.

I have been told (never confirmed it myself) that they only run an academy if they have enough "T" recruits to run one. Once they have enough they open it up to other departments, like I said only what I have heard take it as 5th hand info. My brother and I went through it and there were "T" recruits in both, Good Luck


Posted by: jay-z

I have a question, it looks like I will be receiving a notice from the MBTA. Yes, I know it is not a sure thing, I most likely will not even get an interview. My question is I am currently working for a non civil service department now. Yes, I know I can't transfer to a civil service department, but if by the luck of the draw, I do get a job offer with the MBTA, do I have to attend their acadamy?


Posted by: Macop

Jay, I will take a guess on this one. Police Officers from other Police agencies attend the MBTA Police academy along side with MBTA Police Officers. I would guess that you would not have to attend it again.


Posted by: jay-z

MACOP, I am thinking the way you are, but I have also heard that they do require you to attend , because their academy is 26 weeks and the other academies are 21 weeks. Will see if I get the chance...


Posted by: Macop

The only time I have heard of that was with Lowell. Something along the lines of a guy who went from a small p.d and had attended the Reading academy and within a year went to Lowell but had to go back to the "Lowell" academy. Someone else on here may have more specific details. Sounds pretty stupid to me.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Hey even Lynn, go to Reading for one PD this year, go to Reading again for Lynn PD this year. It would be easier to photocopy your first certificate and change the number.


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

I can't find any kind of pay scale or benefit info on this department. Anybody got any info to share? Is it really $48k/yr starting?


Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

Any new news about the proposed merger between MSP and the MBTA Police?


Posted by: 94c

The MBTA is refusing to pay for the new color scheme for the trains.


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Alright, I thought I had done my fair share of research on these things. First I saw something on the HRD site about paying $150 to take the PAT, now someone is saying that if I go to the academy it'll cost me $3100?! Tell me this is for someone who's putting themself through(if that is even an option). I've never heard of being charged to go through the application process(except the test) or the academy. Someone please set me straight on this since I'm totally confused now. Thanks.


Posted by: NegroRotary

SargeLorenzo, yes you are require to pay for the academy with the MBTA


Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

That is correct. The "T" requires all new hires to pay there own way through their academy. Best of luck.


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Absolutely correct. Plus $150(I think that's what it is) for the PAT. I went in today and signed my intent form and a few others. Those with GI Bill can apparently use that to cover it. Someone else here with experience in that will have to give up the details. I used my GI Bill up long ago.

Out of curiosity, what other towns make you pay for the academy? The officer there thought Quincy did, Delta?


Posted by: redsox03

Would you get the $3100 up front or monthy payments from the GI Bill?


Posted by: Crvtte65

There are departments out there that pay the fee up front but take it out of the paycheck on a weekly basis until it is paid off... Not too many, but they will most likely grow in the future rather than go away

SargreLorenzo, check out the the herald website to see state pay (actual). Just look for the lowest paid PO and that is most likely the base pay. I think it is in the mid to high 40's.


Posted by: WaterPistola

VERY interesting site


Posted by: onetime

So the HRD website says I was put on the cert list on 11/23, but I have not seen the card in the mail. Do you actually need the card in hand to sign the list?


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

You don't need the card in hand, you can print out the e-version off the HRD site. There's no rush, that card should show up within the next couple of days.

From what I got out of the conversation, the GI Bill would be paid out differently than if you were taking regular college courses. I think it's a one time payment. The academy is paid out like it's an apprenticeship, or something like that. Again, someone with more info should chime in on that one.


Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

Looking at the herald website it shows the starting pay as $39,274/yr. I also searched a name of a recent graduate (17th MPOC which graduated in Feb of this year) and saw that this, and his classmates all had the same starting pay. Best of luck to all that go through the process.


Posted by: NegroRotary

Best of luck for all that chose teh MBTA, for what I heard is a great department.


Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by SargeLorenzo
Absolutely correct. Plus $150(I think that's what it is) for the PAT. I went in today and signed my intent form and a few others. Those with GI Bill can apparently use that to cover it. Someone else here with experience in that will have to give up the details. I used my GI Bill up long ago.

Out of curiosity, what other towns make you pay for the academy? The officer there thought Quincy did, Delta?
.

I'm 99% sure that Dartmouth PD just graduated a class that had to pay their own way.


Posted by: COto50

I know Marshfield pays for there own. The town pays the cost up front then deducts it out of the officer's checks till it's paid back.


Posted by: jay-z

Just wondering who out here has signed the list for the MBTA.


Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

Come on Guys MBTA? It's not going to be around anymore! THERE ALL GOING TO BE MASSACHUSETTS STATE TROOPERS! There not going to the MBTA class they are going to the MASP training class. Good luck to all the new MBTA TROOPERS. Will they still have to ride the T or get to ride the BIG ROADS


Posted by: BostonMuni

Quote:
Originally Posted by kojack1
Transit hires on a regular basis, almost guarenteed that if the "T" academy is in session they have recruits in it.

I have been told (never confirmed it myself) that they only run an academy if they have enough "T" recruits to run one. Once they have enough they open it up to other departments, like I said only what I have heard take it as 5th hand info. My brother and I went through it and there were "T" recruits in both, Good Luck

Not to split hairs, but I went through the MBTA Police Academy, 6th MPOC with a class of 50 recruits and there was not a single candidate from the MBTA. I don't know if this has happened since, but here is evidence that it has happened before!


Posted by: Mitpo62

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
Come on Guys MBTA? It's not going to be around anymore! THERE ALL GOING TO BE MASSACHUSETTS STATE TROOPERS! There not going to the MBTA class they are going to the MASP training class. Good luck to all the new MBTA TROOPERS. Will they still have to ride the T or get to ride the BIG ROADS
Troopers riding trains? N E V A H !


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by SargeLorenzo
Out of curiosity, what other towns make you pay for the academy? The officer there thought Quincy did, Delta?
QPD does not make recruits pay for their academy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
Troopers riding trains? N E V A H !
That's okay, the transit cops don't seem to ride them much either.


Posted by: Polch

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
Troopers riding trains? N E V A H !
T Cops riding trains? N E V A H!


Posted by: 40th MPOC#309

You just cant beat the MBTA Academy!!!! HOOAH!


Posted by: Inspector71

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
Any new news about the proposed merger between MSP and the MBTA Police?

Will you STFU? The T Guys have an awesome pension that is better than the one the Troopers have.


Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

Guys don't fight the inevitable. Change will come. Change will come. You think it's far fetched now but soon there'll be no town/city/t police. Everybody will be MA State troopers on the same radio frequency. It will be much safer that way and no more inbred fighting between agencies. Soon we'll all be on the same team together. Just like in Europe.


Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
Guys don't fight the inevitable. Change will come. Change will come. You think it's far fetched now but soon there'll be no town/city/t police. Everybody will be MA State troopers on the same radio frequency. It will be much safer that way and no more inbred fighting between agencies. Soon we'll all be on the same team together. Just like in Europe.
I just look at your posts when I need a laugh.


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
Guys don't fight the inevitable. Change will come. Change will come. You think it's far fetched now but soon there'll be no town/city/t police. Everybody will be MA State troopers on the same radio frequency. It will be much safer that way and no more inbred fighting between agencies. Soon we'll all be on the same team together. Just like in Europe.
Seriously, just let it go already


Posted by: wolf9848

WOW, ChicwithBadge, your jokes are lame. Anyways, do any of you guys know how many Officers the T is looking to hire? Any clue on how many cards were sent out?


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

I don't remember the exact numbers. They sent out more than enough cards for a projected February academy. No idea when there would be another. Ask DipWithBadge, she's got the answers....to the questions that no one asked.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector71

Will you STFU? The T Guys have an awesome pension that is better than the one the Troopers have.
I don't think so, they have a weak Railroad Retirement system, not Group 4 as locals or MSP style pension. Their pension cannot even be transfered over to municipal or state pension system.


Posted by: USMCMP5811

Quote:
Originally Posted by BostonMuni
Not to split hairs, but I went through the MBTA Police Academy, 6th MPOC with a class of 50 recruits and there was not a single candidate from the MBTA. I don't know if this has happened since, but here is evidence that it has happened before!
the 18th MPOC did not have any Transit recruites in it as well as the upcomming 20th MPOC


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

OK, I went to turn in paperwork today, fingerprints, etc. They have made a change to their policy of cadets paying for the academy. They are still charging, but, now they're willing to do a payroll deduction. It'll be $60/week coming out of your paycheck if you want to go that route.

Also, they had a policy stating that you had to stay on board for 2 years or they would charge you for for some non-reusable issued items. That has changed to 18 months starting on day 1 of the academy.

Good luck to those applying!


Posted by: onetime

The paperwork you turned in today, was that stuff from the last Civil Service test, or is the MBTA putting through a class from the 05 test? I am also just curious to know if anyone has heard any gossip on how many new hires the T will be looking to hire in the next couple of years.


Posted by: WaterPistola

why would they still be using the 2005 list?


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by onetime
The paperwork you turned in today, was that stuff from the last Civil Service test, or is the MBTA putting through a class from the 05 test? I am also just curious to know if anyone has heard any gossip on how many new hires the T will be looking to hire in the next couple of years.
.................................................. ..................................'07 test

Anyways, I have no idea how many they plan on hiring over the next couple years. I can tell you there were a good number that no-showed when cards were sent out. Also, there were a handfull of no-shows today out of the people that actually signed when they got a card. This current group of applicants are alot of vets and d-vets, many are going through the process for other towns currently or are at least very high on other lists. Plus, some will be weeded out. I wouldn't be too discouraged if I wasn't too high on the list, hang in there.


Posted by: mchef766

MBTA is looking for 14 FT Police officers


Posted by: southwick34

Ya but I heard Billy Bulger controls these jobs????? Tom Birmingham has a hand in it too! Better start watching Brotherhood on Showtime.


Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by southwick34
Ya but I heard Billy Bulger controls these jobs????? Tom Birmingham has a hand in it too! Better start watching Brotherhood on Showtime.
Yeah, maybe back in 1992 they did. Southwick34, pick up a Herald once in a while, will ya? Or do they deliver that far out West?


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by southwick34
Ya but I heard Billy Bulger controls these jobs????? Tom Birmingham has a hand in it too! Better start watching Brotherhood on Showtime.
Ya and I heard Bill Bratton is a wicked awesome MBTA Police Chief!!!


Posted by: PaulKersey

Quote:
Originally Posted by southwick34
Ya but I heard Billy Bulger controls these jobs????? Tom Birmingham has a hand in it too!
I thought Keverian was running the show.


Posted by: IceBreaker

Any more word on upcoming classes....or how many candidates they have gone through?


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IceBreaker View Post
Any more word on upcoming classes....or how many candidates they have gone through?
My conditional offer says March 3rd academy date. I'm still going through the hiring process with the first group called off the list. Don't know what they started with or what they're down to.


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by IceBreaker View Post
Any more word on upcoming classes....or how many candidates they have gone through?
Update: they apparently sent out 150 cards and are down to 21 applicants that are almost completed with the process. They wanted 24, but, only got 21. Those people have definite academy seats as long as they pass the rest of the psych and the PAT.


Posted by: onetime

I guess I just don't understand how this whole process works. It was my understanding that if you received a card, you would move throught the interview process. So hypothetically speaking, if I got a card, signed the list, turned in application on the day I was told to, they could have passed me over, and I would never know? Will they continue to pick from those 150 cards they sent out if they do hire more than the 21 this time around? Or, will they send out a completely different set of cards, negating those who already received one, but did not move beyond turning in the app?


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by onetime View Post
I guess I just don't understand how this whole process works. It was my understanding that if you received a card, you would move throught the interview process. So hypothetically speaking, if I got a card, signed the list, turned in application on the day I was told to, they could have passed me over, and I would never know? Will they continue to pick from those 150 cards they sent out if they do hire more than the 21 this time around? Or, will they send out a completely different set of cards, negating those who already received one, but did not move beyond turning in the app?
They're supposed to inform you if and why they bypassed you, because you have the right of appeal to civil service (something you should do if bypassed).


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by onetime View Post
I guess I just don't understand how this whole process works. It was my understanding that if you received a card, you would move throught the interview process. So hypothetically speaking, if I got a card, signed the list, turned in application on the day I was told to, they could have passed me over, and I would never know? Will they continue to pick from those 150 cards they sent out if they do hire more than the 21 this time around? Or, will they send out a completely different set of cards, negating those who already received one, but did not move beyond turning in the app?
You need to pay better attention and work on your reading comprehension. They mailed out 150 cards.
Out of those 150 possible applicants they ended up with only so many replies.
Out of those that replied, only so many passed the BI.
Out of those that passed the BI, only so many passed the medical.

Are you seeing a trend here? I don't see any of those 150 getting another card unless maybe they never responded to the first one they got, maybe. At least that's how the DOC does it, I get a new card every couple of months from them.


Posted by: redsox03

I never got a card from the MBTA. Im way before 150 on the list. Did the call for spanish speaking people?


Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsox03 View Post
I never got a card from the MBTA. Im way before 150 on the list. Did the call for spanish speaking people?
I'm just going off of what they(MBTA Brass) told the remaining applicants, did you add up all the ties? They can easily send out 150 cards without even getting close to #150. Tengo no idea.


Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by SargeLorenzo View Post
I'm just going off of what they(MBTA Brass) told the remaining applicants, did you add up all the ties? They can easily send out 150 cards without even getting close to #150. Tengo no idea.
Yeah, I'm before 150. I dont know what the deal is?


Posted by: rireserve

They probably called for the layoff list as well so factor in another 25 cards.




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