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Posted by: Taylor

I was driving down the highway today and observed two troopers in different locations of the highway with vehilcles pulled over and they each had on different hats, one had the "smokey" marine corps DI type hat and the other had on the small typical town cop hat. I was wondering why they wear two different hats and why, thanks for any clerification.



Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Different temperatures.



Posted by: Mikey682

The campaign cover is worn between April 15 and October 15, then the winter uniform is donned and a garrison cover is used. I have no idea, its not the duty cover for this time of year. The only time I see the campaign cover worn during the winter months is MSP Academy Staff.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taylor
I was driving down the highway today and observed two troopers in different locations of the highway with vehilcles pulled over and they each had on different hats, one had the "smokey" marine corps DI type hat and the other had on the small typical town cop hat. I was wondering why they wear two different hats and why, thanks for any clerification.
One may have been doing Chapter 90 and the other drug interdiction. They have been known for wearing different hats.



Posted by: LA Copper

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
One may have been doing Chapter 90 and the other drug interdiction. They have been known for wearing different hats.
Don't you need the first so you can get to the second?



Posted by: Sniper

LAC, don't let 94C fool ya, HE is a man of MANY HATS..........



Posted by: REILEYDOG

I heard that it all depends on what size the Troopers head is. Next time, can you should stop on the highway and ask the Trooper his hat size and let us all know once and for all?



Posted by: rg1283

Maybe he just had the wrong hat on for whatever reason. Or it could have been one of those town PDs also with one of those look a like MSP hats.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sniper
LAC, don't let 94C fool ya, HE is a man of MANY HATS..........
Where I work the only guys that wear hats are trying to hide the chrome domes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Copper
Don't you need the first so you can get to the second?
That's why they came in separate cars.



Posted by: nevrehc

Command staff does not wear the campaign hat. Major and above wear the garrison cover year round. Academy DI's wear the campaign cover year round. Could be all the above as well.



Posted by: LA Copper

94c,
I don't understand...



Posted by: Victory

and one time... at band camp... I stuck a flute in my pussy.



Posted by: RodneyFarva




is it true they stick a coat hanger in their cover to get this shape?

aka the 40 mission chushed look?



Posted by: Mikey682

The Garrison Cover is pinned down on the sides.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by RodneyFarva
aka the 40 mission chushed look?
It's actually "50 mission crush" from the Army Air Corps in WWII;

"A 'fifty mission crush' is an Army Air Corps, or Air Force, service cap that has the stiffening ring removed, and is worn crushed and battered. This cap is obviously out of uniform, however steeped in tradition. This tradition was started by the 8th Air force flying personnel as a mark that separates the fledgling from the battle hardened survivor of 25+ combat missions. This mangled cap was frowned upon, but tolerated for those who earned the right to wear it.

Normally, this cap had stiffeners – a support piece behind the cap device and a wire around the inside top perimeter to maintain the cap's round shape. These kept the cap in its proper, regulation military shape and angle. However, since bomber pilots wore headsets over their caps during flights, they would remove the wire stiffener to make headset wear more comfortable, causing the sides of the caps to become crushed. Eventually, the caps retained their floppy "crushed" look, giving the pilot who wore it the look of a seasoned veteran. The crush cap identified its wearer as an experienced pro, and was as much a part of his identity as his leather flight jacket. Army regulations authorized wear of the service cap in this manner in the Army Air Forces, although ground Army officers hated that manner of wearing the cap. Since most AAF general officers likewise wore the crushed caps, the ground Army could do nothing about it. The wear of the "50 Mission" cap is prohibited in the current USAF".



Posted by: WaterPistola

nice history lesson, thanks delta i learned something today



Posted by: Barbrady

Quote:
Originally Posted by rg1283
Or it could have been one of those town PDs also with one of those look a like MSP hats.
Norton comes to mind....if I remember correctly.



Posted by: Killjoy

Quote:
The Garrison Cover is pinned down on the sides.
It looks sharper to unpin it on the sides and use the "wire hanger" method to achieve the proper shape. You then also give it the proper B troop "duck tail" in the back.

Quote:
Maybe he just had the wrong hat on for whatever reason. Or it could have been one of those town PDs also with one of those look a like MSP hats.
Maybe it was one of the mall guards from the Natick mall....they wear campaign covers too.



Posted by: Tango

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
It's actually "50 mission crush" from the Army Air Corps in WWII;

"A 'fifty mission crush' is an Army Air Corps, or Air Force, service cap that has the stiffening ring removed, and is worn crushed and battered. This cap is obviously out of uniform, however steeped in tradition. This tradition was started by the 8th Air force flying personnel as a mark that separates the fledgling from the battle hardened survivor of 25+ combat missions. This mangled cap was frowned upon, but tolerated for those who earned the right to wear it.

Normally, this cap had stiffeners – a support piece behind the cap device and a wire around the inside top perimeter to maintain the cap's round shape. These kept the cap in its proper, regulation military shape and angle. However, since bomber pilots wore headsets over their caps during flights, they would remove the wire stiffener to make headset wear more comfortable, causing the sides of the caps to become crushed. Eventually, the caps retained their floppy "crushed" look, giving the pilot who wore it the look of a seasoned veteran. The crush cap identified its wearer as an experienced pro, and was as much a part of his identity as his leather flight jacket. Army regulations authorized wear of the service cap in this manner in the Army Air Forces, although ground Army officers hated that manner of wearing the cap. Since most AAF general officers likewise wore the crushed caps, the ground Army could do nothing about it. The wear of the "50 Mission" cap is prohibited in the current USAF".

Interesting, thanks Delta. My FTO would not allow me to "duck tail" my cover until I got my first arrest on my own off break in.



Posted by: RodneyFarva

Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterPistola
nice history lesson, thanks delta i learned something today

+1 thanks





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