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Posted by: Jackpot

Can anyone tell me when the next Boston Police Academy will be starting? Thank You.



Posted by: bspd103

Word on the street is Nov 27



Posted by: Mitpo62

The academy did start on the 27th. I have a friend in there and already in the first week 10 people quit. Unbelievable!



Posted by: Hopeful76

How does one go about applying for the civil service exam, when is the next one, what age is the cut off? Also, what can one do, especially being a female to prepare for the application process to apply to the Boston Police Academy?



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
The academy did start on the 27th. I have a friend in there and already in the first week 10 people quit. Unbelievable!
I'll never understand that. They would have had to physically remove me from the academy grounds.



Posted by: rhammond

Well an update on Boston Police Academy Class 45-06. As everyone knows we started on November 27, 2006 with 108 recruit officers. We had 101 for the City of Boston, 4 for the City of Chelsea, and 3 for the Town of Taunton. To date we have lost 15 recruit officers from Boston. Class is moving extremely quickly and no signs of slowing down. Rumors has it that the next academy class is scheduled for April.



Posted by: Mitpo62

Taunton is actually a city, but with widespread "small mindedness" you wouldn't know it.



Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:
Originally Posted by rhammond
Rumors has it that the next academy class is scheduled for April.
The Recruit Unit said that they would be starting up again after the new year.....



Posted by: rhammond

Sorry for the mistake, I was going off of what I was told by my fellow recruit officers. Also just to update Boston will be hiring 100+ and academy will be starting mid to late May. Start preparing now and don't wait to the last minute. PT is very intense, just want to give you people a heads up. Any questions feel free to ask. I will NOT talk about any type of test material or the day to day classes that we have. Sorry but everyone has to earn theirs.



Posted by: usaf1199a

I would hope you wouldn't talk about any academy test material - especially on a public forum. I personally would not even post anything if you are currently in an academy because the SI's check mass cops all the time - I know they did at Lowell.



Posted by: Mitpo62

How is this current class doing? Any more recruits drop? Hopefully it has smoothed out a bit for a little better sailing.



Posted by: Mstoney

how's it going guys just wondering if anyone knew when the next academy was scheduled to start?



Posted by: OutOfManyOne

why would they hold one when they can get laterals for free



Posted by: NewGuyhere

There is one currently in the academy now (started in June).



Posted by: Mstoney

thanks newguy so probably not till atleast the new year for the next academy. thats alot better help than some one elses comment.



Posted by: dayshift

They are taking another group of lateral transfers later in the year or early next year due to some of the laterals that deferred because of family and unable to make the residency on time. A great deal of money was spent on backgrounds and other testing and some of the laterals that received offers deferred or possibly considered for future employment.



Posted by: shaund44

Is it true that boston went through the whole list of eligiblity and went outside the city to take applicants. I know about the transfers but the residency, I live in boston and feel as though i should have taken the test, I know i could score at lease a 85 or more.



Posted by: podestiny

They often start one up shortly after graduation. This class in is due to graduate at the end of December. So, I deally 1-2 months after that. Given the scores of the latest test being out in the fall and the new test the end of Sept. things could be different??



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Anyone hear anything about the next BPD class?



Posted by: BSP268

may



Posted by: wolf9848

I've been hearing May also from Officers within BPD.



Posted by: soxrock75

Current Recruits say the staff is gearing up for May which makes sense. Cards go out and at least 3-6 months for the hiring process......



Posted by: josh08

does anyone know if the next class will be in febuary,



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by josh08
does anyone know if the next class will be in febuary,
Yes, deadline for signing is Saturday at Kenmore Square.
Look for the guy holding the "will work for food" sign.
He's an undercover recruiter.



Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

Can you sponsor yourself to go through like at the regional academys or State Police SSPOs?



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
Can you sponsor yourself to go through like at the regional academys or State Police SSPOs?
Yes. See above post.



Posted by: WaterPistola

that guy is the best, he recruited me and now has me working undercover getting donations. unfortunately he gets 50%. It's not so bad though, at least i get something and IM WORKING IN PLAIN CLOTHES!



Posted by: wolf9848

So who else is going to be at Police HQ this Sunday for application orientation?



Posted by: mikeyv7712

anyone have any idea how many people signed the list?



Posted by: Albundy

500



Posted by: mikeyv7712

yeah thanks bundy



Posted by: WaterPistola

you are really going to believe the word of al bundy?



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterPistola
you are really going to believe the word of al bundy?
of course I do a shoesalesman never lies



Posted by: Macop

I heard that they were going to take laterals again, any truth to that?



Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Relax, you need a year first before you lateral.



Posted by: wolf9848

Does anyone here know if Notarized copies of my last three years attendance record effects me since I was in the Military for the last 4 years? 2 of which were spent in Iraq.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
Does anyone here know if Notarized copies of my last three years attendance record effects me since I was in the Military for the last 4 years? 2 of which were spent in Iraq.
Time spent on active duty in the military won't affect your residency; it will be your home of record.



Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
Does anyone here know if Notarized copies of my last three years attendance record effects me since I was in the Military for the last 4 years? 2 of which were spent in Iraq.
I was in the same boat before I got on.

The rule states something similar to if you have the intention of moving back home to your HOR while on active duty you will keep that residence preference.



Posted by: trueblue

Anyone know what the Boston PD Academy is like? A friend of mine is going thru the process....knows no one on the job and I can't help him because I went to waltham 20 years ago. Do they run everyday? Academics tough? A final exam? Thanks in advance.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

I know there is a class being put on in May for Boston but does anyone know if its true that they are gonna put one on in the fall or is that just a rumor?



Posted by: trueblue

My friend says that the detective in recruit investigations said there won't be a fall academy class because they don't want to overlap classes in the academy. They have too many people in the building with In service for the Boston cops and some minor construction going on inside the academy.



Posted by: hunter617

From what i am hear they have the funding for a couple of classes. I know there is a class in May. I was also told that as soon as this class graduates they will be placing another class in the academy. The November class should be all the 9 band. The academy is also becoming shorter the last two classes have graduated early 5 months instead of 6.

Stay Safe
Hunter617



Posted by: trueblue

You are right hunter617, My friend going thru process says there will be a class in May and then another right after. He's getting prepared for may and to put up with 6 months of heartache. He's hearing the testing in the academy is tough and they don't mind getting rid of people if they don't measure up with the academics or physical stuff. Twenty eight from the last class got tossed from the academy...and one fired 12 hours before graduation for failing the drug test! I guess the detectives at recruit investigations use this for ammo to weed out people. Not a bad idea really. I'm just glad I don't have to go thru the academy that alot of you guys are trying to get into. I did it many years ago and it was a lot different. Good luck to anyone trying to get in.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

I am hearing a class going on right after the may one too. I am hearing the May class is mostly Vets and bilingual canidates and the the fall one will be 10's and some 9s



Posted by: hunter617

Most of the tens got processed. So a lot of the November class is going to be 9's and some 8's. As far as the academy goes it is hard and the academy staff will really break you down. The first day is the worst because most people are not use to it. a lot of yelling and them getting in your face.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

10s are being processed but told they are a reserve list for the may class and to expect to have a shot at the fall class



Posted by: Hopeful76

I'm currently going through the process. Was told the next class was in May, went as far as having my home visit and have heard absolutely nothing for about 2 months now. I am in the 9 band. Does this mean that it's not likely I get into either May or the Fall class? Anyone have any specific advice for me as a female going into the academy?



Posted by: trueblue

A cop in the town next to mine says that Boston is putting more laterals on in Sept. Anyone know what the deal is with that? And how much money do BPD Patrolman make? I am doing ok now with ot/details and sure don't have the call volume they have. And is it true the laterals don't have to live with in the city because they already have civil service status? What about their rank? Do they keep it? No wonder there are lawyers who specialize in civi service law!



Posted by: hunter617

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Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
A cop in the town next to mine says that Boston is putting more laterals on in Sept. Anyone know what the deal is with that? And how much money do BPD Patrolman make? I am doing ok now with ot/details and sure don't have the call volume they have. And is it true the laterals don't have to live with in the city because they already have civil service status? What about their rank? Do they keep it? No wonder there are lawyers who specialize in civi service law!
Not sure on the lateral thing in september. P.O. start out at about $50,000 a year base i could be off by a few or so. as far as laterals living in the city they have to move to the city i believe before the date of the academy. I think they only take Patrol Officers



Posted by: trueblue

I would have considered making a move to BPD many years ago but like everything else in life you get real comfortable in just a few short years. I remember friends trying to get on Boston way way back and the amount of candidates was unreal. I guess the big city is not as attractive as it once was. To all that are trying to get a lateral transfer good luck but it is a job and the grass is always greener. The same complaints, problems, equipment breakdowns, etc happen in Boston....on a bigger scale!



Posted by: mikeyv7712

I havent heard anything about laterals from the BPD they said two classes this year off the civil service list. Who is hearing laterals?



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712 View Post
I havent heard anything about laterals from the BPD they said two classes this year off the civil service list. Who is hearing laterals?
Mikeyv7712, I heard it from a cop I have known for years and his info is usually very good. Plus he has a good friend who works for BPD (civilian) out of their HQ and he said they are putting laterals on this year. But.....no more than five. Yup five. That probably means that there are no other active cops trying to lateral because if there were I'm sure there would be another class of 50. And out of the five atleast 3 are from Lowell. Go figure. They must think they'll get some stars if they lateral over.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

anyone have any updates on the May BPD class?



Posted by: LTSO16

Im sure this has been asked but ive been away for a bit. Has anyone in band 9 who is a resident of boston heard anything? I have also noticed that ive moved from 317 to 330. Anyone know if this is because of the later test that were taken? thanks



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTSO16 View Post
Im sure this has been asked but ive been away for a bit. Has anyone in band 9 who is a resident of boston heard anything? I have also noticed that ive moved from 317 to 330. Anyone know if this is because of the later test that were taken? thanks
I think its becuase of the Vets coming home and taking the test at random times



Posted by: mikeyv7712

any residential non vet 10s get a home visit yet?



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712 View Post
anyone have any updates on the May BPD class?
Just heard from a source mikeyv7712 that the May class will be 90 recruits/20 females. there will be 10 or so outside agency recruits. And the conditions at the academy are not good. They want to stuff the whole class into two very small classrooms. The instructors are furious because they know how bad it will be to teach and learn. Good luck in July to all that attend!



Posted by: hunter617

The class was moved from may to July. I did not hear about them teaching in only two room those room only hold about 40 if that thats not going to work. are they doing work on the building?



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter617 View Post
The class was moved from may to July. I did not hear about them teaching in only two room those room only hold about 40 if that thats not going to work. are they doing work on the building?
Hunter617, From what source says May 26th is the start date and yes they are doing inside construction on the two classrooms which is now one not so bigclassroom. And it's behind sched.The wall between them was taken down but there is much more work to be done. The staff is worried that the 90+ recruits are going to roast because these two classroms (One not so big one now) doesn't have central air. I feel bad for anyone that has to go through that type of learning enviornment.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter617 View Post
The class was moved from may to July. I did not hear about them teaching in only two room those room only hold about 40 if that thats not going to work. are they doing work on the building?

I drive by there almost everyday and doesnt look any work is being done on that building



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712 View Post
I drive by there almost everyday and doesnt look any work is being done on that building
Hunter617, I believe all the work is inside the building.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

any non vet 10s get a home visit yet or heard anything else?



Posted by: LTSO16

how about any 9 non-vet residents?? hear anything??



Posted by: Mmp1

LTS016 as far as I know the 10's, non-vets-, have not heard a thing since the interview.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

From what RI has been saying it seems like the class in may is gonna be vets and cadets



Posted by: hunter617

I was told that the may class was going to be pushed back, but i was told the other day that the May class is still going to happen. The may class is going to consist of people that have 10's, vets , and a couple of cadets. The class is suppose to be 80 people. 60 males and 20 females.

Stay Safe
-Hunter617



Posted by: Hopeful76

I am a non-vet/non-cadet female on the 9 band currently being processed supposedly for the May class. Made it through the interview, home visit, written and oral psyc, medical, still haven't been scheduled for the PAT, looking for some advice on that.... I hear it will be scheduled some time this month?



Posted by: smd6169

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful76 View Post
I am a non-vet/non-cadet female on the 9 band currently being processed supposedly for the May class. Made it through the interview, home visit, written and oral psyc, medical, still haven't been scheduled for the PAT, looking for some advice on that.... I hear it will be scheduled some time this month?
What Interview did you go through for BPD, an Oral Board Panel Interview or is this the Background Interview?



Posted by: Robert35

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Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Mikeyv7712, I heard it from a cop I have known for years and his info is usually very good. Plus he has a good friend who works for BPD (civilian) out of their HQ and he said they are putting laterals on this year. But.....no more than five. Yup five. That probably means that there are no other active cops trying to lateral because if there were I'm sure there would be another class of 50. And out of the five atleast 3 are from Lowell. Go figure. They must think they'll get some stars if they lateral over.

One Lateral Resigned and went back to his old Dept. Might be a few more coming over but that's up in the air right now. June is looking like the next start for the Academy.



Posted by: smd6169

Robert35, what is the hiring process now and once they hire for this first [June] class, will they call for another cert. list? Thanks.



Posted by: Mmp1

HAHA, I love this state, don't give the job to someone that got a 10, has been in military, and has a bunch of other qual's, but to a female that got a 9 because they need more women.........



Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
HAHA, I love this state, don't give the job to someone that got a 10, has been in military, and has a bunch of other qual's, but to a female that got a 9 because they need more women.........
It's great, isn't it?



Posted by: hunter617

ok this is what i was told today. The May class is still going to happen at the end of may. The class after that might not take place untill May of 2009.



Posted by: Mmp1

hunter where are you getting this info from, what are you the boston police chiefs secretary or something?



Posted by: hunter617

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Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
hunter where are you getting this info from, what are you the boston police chiefs secretary or something?
No i dont work for the chiefs secretary. just know a few people that know a few people.



Posted by: Hopeful76

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Originally Posted by smd6169 View Post
What Interview did you go through for BPD, an Oral Board Panel Interview or is this the Background Interview?
The background interview, the only one on one interview I had was with the Psyc Doc...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
HAHA, I love this state, don't give the job to someone that got a 10, has been in military, and has a bunch of other qual's, but to a female that got a 9 because they need more women.........

There are several people going through the process right now that are from the 9 band, both male and female (with a bunch of qual's themselves)

...thought this was a site where comrades could offer advice



Posted by: Mmp1

sorry I forgot to mention I don't speak a second language......



Posted by: LTSO16

OK what the heck?? how come some 9 non-vet, white, males do not get a card and others do?? what ever happened to the bands being one even band just to get into the process and then go from there with the other quals. This is just getting crazier every day. whew..that feels better



Posted by: 1234hey

anyone get a card liviing outside boston?



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by hunter617 View Post
ok this is what i was told today. The May class is still going to happen at the end of may. The class after that might not take place untill May of 2009.
Tuesday May 27th is the intended start date for the academy. Comes from a HQ source.



Posted by: Robert35

Class will go on in May 2008 they want to put in 80 Recruits into this class.



Posted by: Blueheart

has anyone in band 8 received anything, or have any idea when that band will get a card?



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueheart View Post
has anyone in band 8 received anything, or have any idea when that band will get a card?
Blueheart...I keep hearing a start date for the Boston Academy is may 27. Wouldn't you have already started the process if you were going into that class? Just curious because it's getting late in the game.



Posted by: LTSO16

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueheart View Post
has anyone in band 8 received anything, or have any idea when that band will get a card?
Im a 9 boston resident and havent gotten anything



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTSO16 View Post
Im a 9 boston resident and havent gotten anything
Wow...That's unbelievable that they would keep everyone waiting up until the last minute. I wish you and everyone else going for the job good luck.



Posted by: soxrock75

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Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Wow...That's unbelievable that they would keep everyone waiting up until the last minute. I wish you and everyone else going for the job good luck.
They aren't waiting until the last minute. They are just going with the 10 band...............



Posted by: LTSO16

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxrock75 View Post
They aren't waiting until the last minute. They are just going with the 10 band...............
Thanks, I didnt think they got to 9 residents yet. Im not on the eligible list on the HR website so I didnt think that they were down to the 9's yet. we'll just see when they get that far and send out cards.



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTSO16 View Post
Thanks, I didnt think they got to 9 residents yet. Im not on the eligible list on the HR website so I didnt think that they were down to the 9's yet. we'll just see when they get that far and send out cards.
Wasn't it a few years ago they were back filling the BPD recruit class as recruits dropped out? Seems like a good idea so that others are given a chance to jump onboard. They did it in Waltham when I went thru in 1986 and the guys that came in late had to get up to speed but all 3 graduated.



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Wasn't it a few years ago they were back filling the BPD recruit class as recruits dropped out? Seems like a good idea so that others are given a chance to jump onboard. They did it in Waltham when I went thru in 1986 and the guys that came in late had to get up to speed but all 3 graduated.
That used to be standard procedure for every academy, not sure if it's still done.



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
That used to be standard procedure for every academy, not sure if it's still done.
Delta784....What a waste. Good candidates waiting in the wings while slugs take a seat in the academy. They might have scored higher on the CS exam but they aren't cut out for it. No shame in that really, just drop out quick and understand that the real world of police work is not CSI Miami. I know what I am saying is not new but I have seen good people wait for so long and then out of frustration or other job offers they just give up and move into another career.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Delta784....What a waste. Good candidates waiting in the wings while slugs take a seat in the academy. They might have scored higher on the CS exam but they aren't cut out for it. No shame in that really, just drop out quick and understand that the real world of police work is not CSI Miami. I know what I am saying is not new but I have seen good people wait for so long and then out of frustration or other job offers they just give up and move into another career.
Sometimes it's just a matter of circumstance; the first morning of my academy there was an empty desk, and no one knew why. It turns out that recruit got the crap kicked out of him in a bar fight the Saturday night before and was still in the hospital.

His replacement was there on Wednesday morning (needed a day to get uniforms, etc.) and subsequently graduated, I have no idea what ever became of the recruit who didn't make it.



Posted by: Blueheart

Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Blueheart...I keep hearing a start date for the Boston Academy is may 27. Wouldn't you have already started the process if you were going into that class? Just curious because it's getting late in the game.
Really? That is why I was asking, to see if anyone in my band received something. That way I know where I stand!!! Thank you TrueBlue!



Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
That used to be standard procedure for every academy, not sure if it's still done.

Within the last couple of years I know it was done in the third week.

I have no idea where they would draw the line though.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c View Post
Within the last couple of years I know it was done in the third week.

I have no idea where they would draw the line though.
Third week? The academy would have been almost a quarter done when you and I went through.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Third week? The academy would have been almost a quarter done when you and I went through.
12 weeks and a stint with an old timer is all that was needed.

I still can't figure out what they're teaching in 6 months now. (My guess is finger painting and learning how to tell the world how much you know)



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blueheart View Post
Really? That is why I was asking, to see if anyone in my band received something. That way I know where I stand!!! Thank you TrueBlue!
Delta784 and 94c, I think we all might be considered old timers on the job and although I'm new on masscops I'm not new to police work just like you guys. Doesn't it drive you crazy when you try to help someone out....yeah that would be you "Civilian Blueheart" and they come right back with a snotty nose attitude? Honestly "kid" you being in the 8 band is right where you belong. The only uniform you should be in is the one you currently wear at Burger King!



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c View Post
I still can't figure out what they're teaching in 6 months now.
Diversity, multiculturalism, sensitivity training, how to sing Kumbya, how to not profile, how to not offend illegal aliens, and how to get in touch with your inner womyn.

Seriously....they were grasping at straws to talk about stuff at the end of my academy, but that was before the reinvention of the wheel (a.k.a. community policing), homeland security, and the whole ICS nonsense.



Posted by: trueblue

Delta 784.....You forgot all the liberal civilians who come to the academy and want to "educate " the new guys on everything. We all know that they just want to pad their resume so they can say at the next cocktail party "I spoke to the bruts at the academy today....blah, blah , blah



Posted by: Mmp1

Yeah this thread is def going off topic, lets keep it about update info for the academy, becuase know one cares if your an old timer or what you think about this new class.....



Posted by: LTSO16

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Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Delta784....What a waste. Good candidates waiting in the wings while slugs take a seat in the academy. They might have scored higher on the CS exam but they aren't cut out for it. No shame in that really, just drop out quick and understand that the real world of police work is not CSI Miami. I know what I am saying is not new but I have seen good people wait for so long and then out of frustration or other job offers they just give up and move into another career.
Your are right on there. Didnt the last academy graduate only 56 or so? So they had to of had some drop outs. If it wasnt too long into the academy they should have added some more recruits. How is this for irony too..Im a Supervisor at my job and I just filled out a recommendation for a kid to go to this Boston academy and I'm still waiting to get a card. He's a good kid though so it was worth it though.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

I hear guys on this Forum saying that the May BPD class is all 10s. As far as I know its going to be all Vets, Cadets, Bilingual canidates and women. The 10s (white male non vet, non bilingual residents) are on a reserve list on the outside looking in. I am a 10 and everyone else who is a 10 on this website site or that I know personally got a couple of steps in the process and hasnt heard anything in 6 weeks. I think 8s and 9s are going to be wating a while



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
Yeah this thread is def going off topic, lets keep it about update info for the academy, becuase know one cares if your an old timer or what you think about this new class.....
Bring that attitude to the academy, and you'll quickly be one of the wash-outs who is replaced. And if by chance you happen to make it, be sure to tell your FTO you don't care about his experience, either. They like that sort of thing.

By the way....it's "no one", not "know one".



Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
Yeah this thread is def going off topic, lets keep it about update info for the academy, becuase know one cares if your an old timer or what you think about this new class.....

More idiot comments from the peanut gallery from a know it all.



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by kwflatbed View Post
More idiot comments from the peanut gallery from a know it all.
For whatever reasons, there's no shortage of them in the wanna-be police ranks these days, Harry.



Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
For whatever reasons, there's no shortage of them in the wanna-be police ranks these days, Harry.
Reading some of the posts in this thread I would have to agree Bruce.



Posted by: Blueheart

Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblue View Post
Delta784 and 94c, I think we all might be considered old timers on the job and although I'm new on masscops I'm not new to police work just like you guys. Doesn't it drive you crazy when you try to help someone out....yeah that would be you "Civilian Blueheart" and they come right back with a snotty nose attitude? Honestly "kid" you being in the 8 band is right where you belong. The only uniform you should be in is the one you currently wear at Burger King!
Honestly, thank you for your help! I am also new to masscops, and maybe I do belong in band 8 since that is what I scored… But I’m grad you are serving the state of Massachusetts with that sweet attitude you bring! It wasn’t a snappy comment I was only trying to see were I stand! Burger King? Nice comment for someone that is wearing a badge. Congradulations!!!!!!!!



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
Yeah this thread is def going off topic, lets keep it about update info for the academy, becuase know one cares if your an old timer or what you think about this new class.....

In case you haven't noticed....

This thread began in September 2006.

Ever get the feeling that the world is passing you by?

It's not your fault. I wanted to be a doctor myself.

Has anybody with a 10 been interviewed yet?
Does anybody know if they're only hiring vets?
Has anybody spoken to a background investigator yet?
Has anyone seen my MOMMY?



Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by Blueheart View Post
Honestly, thank you for your help! I am also new to masscops, and maybe I do belong in band 8 since that is what I scored… But I’m grad you are serving the state of Massachusetts with that sweet attitude you bring! It wasn’t a snappy comment I was only trying to see were I stand! Burger King? Nice comment for someone that is wearing a badge. Congradulations!!!!!!!!

Having a smart mouth on MassCops will not help you with your BI or interview IF you ever get one.



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Blueheart View Post
Honestly, thank you for your help! I am also new to masscops, and maybe I do belong in band 8 since that is what I scored… But I’m grad you are serving the state of Massachusetts with that sweet attitude you bring! It wasn’t a snappy comment I was only trying to see were I stand! Burger King? Nice comment for someone that is wearing a badge. Congradulations!!!!!!!!
With that grammatical train wreck, we all now know why you only scored in the 8 band.

"Congradulations" on your score!



Posted by: mikeyv7712

anyone hearing anything about a fall class?



Posted by: WaterPistola

yeah "stop drop and roll" May 26th



Posted by: trueblue

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Originally Posted by LTSO16 View Post
Your are right on there. Didnt the last academy graduate only 56 or so? So they had to of had some drop outs. If it wasnt too long into the academy they should have added some more recruits. How is this for irony too..Im a Supervisor at my job and I just filled out a recommendation for a kid to go to this Boston academy and I'm still waiting to get a card. He's a good kid though so it was worth it though.
Not sure how many graduated. It's on their website bostonpoliceacademy.com. Good luck with the process.



Posted by: Blueheart

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
With that grammatical train wreck, we all now know why you only scored in the 8 band.

"Congradulations" on your score!
Thank you!



Posted by: Albundy

But Delta he is grad you are serving massachusetts!



Posted by: Blueheart

Let me first start by apologizing to Delta. My intentions were not to be a smart @$$, if I said something the wrong way I apologize. I appreciate any Intel that is out. Sorry. Maybe I should double-check my spelling! I would like to start new with all you guys, so if I said anything that might made someone upset I also apologize. Hopefully I cleared the air with some of you guys.



Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
Yeah this thread is def going off topic, lets keep it about update info for the academy, becuase know one cares if your an old timer or what you think about this new class.....
Sorry, back on topic....

Step #1

https://www.csexam.hrd.state.ma.us/hrd/

Step #2

Repeat step #1

Step #3

Repeat step #1

Step #4

Repeat step #1

Step #5

Screw it. Support your local sheriff.



Posted by: WaterPistola

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Originally Posted by 94c View Post
Sorry, back on topic....

Step #1

https://www.csexam.hrd.state.ma.us/hrd/

Step #2

Repeat step #1

Step #3

Repeat step #1

Step #4

Repeat step #1

Step #5

Screw it. Support your local sheriff.
I think I am at step 3...going on 4 shortly, but my step 5 is NYPD... god I hope not



Posted by: Mmp1

hey heard from a source from HR that there might be another class going in right in October for Boston....



Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by WaterPistola View Post
I think I am at step 3...going on 4 shortly, but my step 5 is NYPD... god I hope not
If your age is what you say it is, don't sell yourself short.

Learn from the past exams and brush up on any deficiencies. You can say that you want it bad enough but if you can prove it, it'll happen.

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Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
hey heard from a source from HR that there might be another class going in right in October for Boston....
As for you my friend, just another class that'll pass you by.



Posted by: Mmp1

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c View Post
If your age is what you say it is, don't sell yourself short.

Learn from the past exams and brush up on any deficiencies. You can say that you want it bad enough but if you can prove it, it'll happen.



As for you my friend, just another class that'll pass you by.
Yeah I don't think so, I already had my interview and I am on the reserve list......



Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by Mmp1 View Post
Yeah I don't think so, I already had my interview and I am on the reserve list......
And the academy will start without you and there'll be another exam in June...



Posted by: Grasshopper

The next academy class is scheduled to start around the end of May.

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Originally Posted by mikeyv7712 View Post
I hear guys on this Forum saying that the May BPD class is all 10s. As far as I know its going to be all Vets, Cadets, Bilingual canidates and women. The 10s (white male non vet, non bilingual residents) are on a reserve list on the outside looking in. I am a 10 and everyone else who is a 10 on this website site or that I know personally got a couple of steps in the process and hasnt heard anything in 6 weeks. I think 8s and 9s are going to be wating a while
FYI. Last I checked it's the City of Boston who is conducting the hiring process, therefore like any other government agency, they're going to keep you waiting. During the last application process, it was about anywhere from 4 to 8 weeks before hearing anything between the different steps of the process, and that was with 2-4 days notice (if that).

As for the "10s", if you had taken the time to take a look at the last class, about 90-95% of the class had been "10s", even though the last class was the first time that they had accepted people of "non-resident" status.



Posted by: j809

Word has it that another lateral transfer process is going to happen for approximately 200 guys and gals.



Posted by: trueblue

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
Word has it that another lateral transfer process is going to happen for approximately 200 guys and gals.
j809....200? Last I heard from source at BPD HQ was five laterals. Could there be that many that want to go to BPD?



Posted by: j809

Silent laterals for now, wait till 200 new openings come up very soon, stay tuned.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
The next academy class is scheduled to start around the end of May.


FYI. Last I checked it's the City of Boston who is conducting the hiring process, therefore like any other government agency, they're going to keep you waiting. During the last application process, it was about anywhere from 4 to 8 weeks before hearing anything between the different steps of the process, and that was with 2-4 days notice (if that).

As for the "10s", if you had taken the time to take a look at the last class, about 90-95% of the class had been "10s", even though the last class was the first time that they had accepted people of "non-resident" status.
FYI Its simple math and if you took the time to look at the previous posts RI said there were 333 people who were being processed ahead of the 10s. Not to mention there are 142 10s. The nonresident class from last year has nothing to do with it. The city is slow but RI said right from the start that the 10s were a reserve list.



Posted by: Robert35

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
Word has it that another lateral transfer process is going to happen for approximately 200 guys and gals.

Don't think so. Maybe a few but not 200.



Posted by: j809

Maybe alot of people will lose their jobs because of substance abuse, maybe.



Posted by: HousingCop

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
Maybe alot of people will lose their jobs because of substance abuse, maybe.
Since BPD can only test one month before or after your birthday, or upon probable cause, that means about 1/6th of the department is eligable to be tested at any one time. Well, 1/6th of the patrol force of 1,200 men & women is about 200 people. No way everbody would fail, plus there is a 2 strike rule.

Why doesn't some of the laterals from Lowell get Big Ed on the horn & ask him directly? From what I hear, he's on their speed dial!

Some people on the stand-by list can only hope & pray for a few drop outs the first 2 weeks. They've been back filling the last couple of classes & it's a good idea to give other people who are waiting a chance at their dream job.



Posted by: j809

Ed has been bringing more people over even past the open lateral process.



Posted by: trueblue

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Originally Posted by j809 View Post
Ed has been bringing more people over even past the open lateral process.
Maybe some civilian staff.....but no cops have come over thru the lateral process. This comes from HQ. And he said only one academy class in the last five has back filled when recruits have quit during first few weeks. Last class lost many in first few weeks but no one got called to replace them. It's crazy not to let people fill those spots!



Posted by: policema51

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c View Post
If your age is what you say it is, don't sell yourself short.

Learn from the past exams and brush up on any deficiencies. You can say that you want it bad enough but if you can prove it, it'll happen.



As for you my friend, just another class that'll pass you by.
Wow, I am new to this site, but you seem like a real jerk 94C, people ask a question then you answer back with some sly remark.....



Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by policema51 View Post
Wow, I am new to this site, but you seem like a real jerk 94C, people ask a question then you answer back with some sly remark.....
New people on the site do not insult members of MassCops
take this as your first warning.



Posted by: Grasshopper

Your impetuous remarks were just directed toward the salutatorian and treasurer from the previous class of the academy of which you are trying to gain admittance! If you want to become a cop, you accept the advice that a cop happens to give to you and the rest of the wannabes (if such an officer is feeling benevolent enough to dole it out for you)!
If you had any idea whom you are speaking to, I doubt (or rather I hope) that you would not be wasting the space on this site as well as expending time of other recruits who are well qualified as you baselessly criticizing advise I may have for other wannabes such as yourself. I could only surmise that you don’t have a grasp upon how inefficacious your infantile remarks verily are. The academy to which you are hoping to gain entry, has the most professional of educators and command staff with an awesome amount of experience in the field and if you qualified or lucky enough to get there, your attitude needs a substantial amelioration if you have any hopes of making it past the first week (or even day). I can only hope that there aren’t other hopefuls on this site that aren’t following your lemming like path most predetermined for separation for the academy if you get so far. No matter how many numbers you might throw out there (333, 142, 10), they do not guarantee anything. They’re bits of bbs gossip and nothing more. Neither a card, nor an interview nor a spot in the academy nor a probationary period ensure you anything. Conduct yourself accordingly.
I didn't care if I was a 10 or a 9 or an 8. I didn't even care. I brushed up on the 3 languages I speak, had 2 suits ready and pressed and kept myself physically and mentally prepared for the demands of any interview, exam or the rigors of the academy.
The “nonresident class” of which you refer, was comprised almost entirely of residents! Yes, some of academy’s composition was several nonresident recruit officers but to call it “The nonresident class you’re creating a falsehood that will no doubt be perpetuated and you are not giving my resident classmates (who had worked as strenuously as nonresidents) the credit and the admiration they deserve for earning their guns and badges.
Far more asinine is your kibitz reaching its absolute nadir with your "it's simple math" remark. Prior to beginning my career as a police officer, I was an accountant as well as a financial services auditor for two fortune 500 companies. Ooh... up in that skyline of that city to pine to serve and protect...two of those tallest and shiny buildings...they entrusted me for their audit. Ooh...when you begin to make your way through that checkout-line at the grocery store, see that U.S. News & World Report America's Best Colleges 2008? Look in the best business schools section...right at the very tiptop of the page...no way? That's my Alma matter! There again...for another year? And just a little ways below…is that school where I’m only several classes away from my master’s degree? No way! How could simple math (such as what you had mentioned) possible elude me? It’s not simple math! It’s the dissemination of gossip!

Response part 2( eh I've got a few min to kill):

I can appreciate a little gossip as much anyone (since I am a woman of her early to mid 20s and even more relevant, I’m a cop) but how useful it is? It isn’t! Gossip is neither reliable nor valid (that’s why it is preponderantly false or if not, then more often than not, based upon untruths). Your “simple math” is useless except for implementation into whatever mental-masturbation you partake in on here. Will I get in? How many spots do they have? How many residents? How many nonresidents? How many veterans? How many non-veterans? How many that can speak French-Creole or Spanish or Vietnamese? How many have had their parents die in the line of duty? Bands of 10s, 9s, and 8s? How can I ever get on??? Boo Fucking Hoo!!!
If you keep yourself in a suspended state of arousal beating-off your brain over whether or not you may have a shot, the most that you may actually be able to experience will be passing out on or ejaculating over your keyboard. Hey, porn is expensive nowadays. So have at it if you’d like but I’d rather your tittle-tattle not be taking up space on a site in which (hopefully) qualified candidates are looking for information on gaining entrance to my chosen career field. I’d hate to miss out on an able future partner, supervisor etc. Or if you’d like to stop the tattlebearing, then step up and take a shot. Myself and I’m sure one or more of my more experienced collegues would be more than felicitous.
Gab on with the gossipry if you’d like. If that’s where you get your kicks, there are far more destructive paths to be taken but like I said it won’t help you get the job you want and if an officer such as my self takes time out of her (or his) busy schedule to dole out some advise to you and your peers.



Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by policema51 View Post
Wow, I am new to this site, but you seem like a real jerk 94C, people ask a question then you answer back with some sly remark.....
Well at least we know you're a good judge of character.

Welcome to MassCops.

I look forward to sharing future posts with you.

But if I were to guess, your next post should be about you complaining about a speeding ticket.

And if you agree with this post,

"Yeah this thread is def going off topic, lets keep it about update info for the academy, becuase know one cares if your an old timer or what you think about this new class....."

Then I really look forward to sharing future posts.



Posted by: HousingCop

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
The academy to which you are hoping to gain entry, has the most professional of educators and command staff with an awesome amount of experience in the field and if you qualified or lucky enough to get there, your attitude needs a substantial amelioration if you have any hopes of making it past the first week (or even day)
Those that can, do.
Those that can't do, teach.
Those that can't teach, teach at the Police Academy.

You'll learn more in the first year with a good partner who trains you correctly than you would with 5 years of academy instruction. Your post, although effective and written quite well, makes you sound more like a future Command Staff weenie than an actual street cop. Just my .02 cents. HC



Posted by: Grasshopper

My scores in defensive tactics and at the range speak (*cough* 100) for themselves. Oh and by the way, I never touched a gun before in my life before going to the range. As for the command staff comment, I'll just take that as a compliment. For right now, I'll take whatever the streets can throw at me.


P.S.

When the little asian girl that scores better than you all throughout grade school, grows up able to throw down with you and might be able to outshoot you...doesn't that just suck?

Oh, and as for the little quote about "those who can't do, teach"...I hope when the time comes, the instructor who was in the Bomb Squad, you won't need him or her, oh, and the instructors who were in SWAT, you won't need them either, and the one who was a trained negotiator, you won't need him or her either.

Oh, but don't worry, if I ever come around the projects, I got your back!!!



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Oh, but don't worry, if I ever come around the projects, I got your back!!!
Good to know. I can always use somebody there since we work on the "one project, one cop" mentality.

Quote:
P.S. When the little asian girl that scores better than you all throughout grade school, grows up able to throw down with you and might be able to outshoot you...doesn't that just suck?
Not as much as the big fat Irish guy falling on top of you, probably breaking a couple of your bones in the process. One thing I learned IN THE STREETS after many years is not to be too cocky. Theres always a bigger, badder, bad guy who most likely has the element of surprise on his side.

Golleeey, you shar do use sum perty words in your posts. Can ya teach me sum down by the cement pond?



Posted by: nirtallica

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
My scores in defensive tactics and at the range speak (*cough* 100) for themselves. Oh and by the way, I never touched a gun before in my life before going to the range. As for the command staff comment, I'll just take that as a compliment. For right now, I'll take whatever the streets can throw at me.


P.S.

When the little asian girl that scores better than you all throughout grade school, grows up able to throw down with you and might be able to outshoot you...doesn't that just suck?

Oh, and as for the little quote about "those who can't do, teach"...I hope when the time comes, the instructor who was in the Bomb Squad, you won't need him or her, oh, and the instructors who were in SWAT, you won't need them either, and the one who was a trained negotiator, you won't need him or her either.

Oh, but don't worry, if I ever come around the projects, I got your back!!!
I aplaud your efforts and accomplishments, but you are extremely arrogant for one. I hope you do not act the same around your fellow officers. Please get over yourself. If your really that badass, come to the MSP and graduate our academy!



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
Oh, but don't worry, if I ever come around the projects, I got your back!!!
Something tells me you'll never see the inside of a project in your entire career.

Here's a saying you should familiarize yourself with;

"Pride cometh before the fall".



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Here's a saying you should familiarize yourself with;

"Pride cometh before the fall".
That's where MCAD will come in.

And one more thing...

Can you old geezers get back on topic?



Posted by: Grasshopper

Hey, it's good to know you have a sense of humor. As for the "big fat Irish guy falling on top of me", I don't know about falling, but rolling...if my husband fattens up anymore he might just be that fat Irish (well half Italian as well) bastard that breaks some bones during the night.

Cocky? No. I know what I've got, I know I've got a lot to learn and I know I'll always have a lot to learn. As for the "bigger, badder", bad guy out there, I took this job so that I could have a shot at the biggest and the baddest. If I were not prepared for that and all the consequences it entailed then I might as well be back crunching corporate digits. Well, if someone catches me by "surprise" then he or she better make sure I'm so definitively deceased that my husband gets a flag in his hand.

Sureee, I'll teach ya sum perdy words down by the ceement pond...but the only words I teach are Chinese swears. Hopefully the cement pond is close to a good bar because they don't come cheap. You'd have to grab a good bottle of scotch or break out the shot glasses and start pouring out some of my favorite tequila.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c View Post
That's where MCAD will come in.
Yeah....MCAD is very useful when you're getting your ass handed to you on the street. So are 3 languages and a top-ranked college degree.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c View Post
And one more thing...

Can you old geezers get back on topic?
Speak for yourself, you old fart.



Posted by: nirtallica

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Yeah....MCAD is very useful when you're getting your ass handed to you on the street. So are 3 languages and a top-ranked college degree.



Speak for yourself, you old fart.
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Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
Hey, it's good to know you have a sense of humor. As for the "big fat Irish guy falling on top of me", I don't know about falling, but rolling...if my husband fattens up anymore he might just be that fat Irish (well half Italian as well) bastard that breaks some bones during the night.

Cocky? No. I know what I've got, I know I've got a lot to learn and I know I'll always have a lot to learn. As for the "bigger, badder", bad guy out there, I took this job so that I could have a shot at the biggest and the baddest. If I were not prepared for that and all the consequences it entailed then I might as well be back crunching corporate digits. Well, if someone catches me by "surprise" then he or she better make sure I'm so definitively deceased that my husband gets a flag in his hand.

Sureee, I'll teach ya sum perdy words down by the ceement pond...but the only words I teach are Chinese swears. Hopefully the cement pond is close to a good bar because they don't come cheap. You'd have to grab a good bottle of scotch or break out the shot glasses and start pouring out some of my favorite tequila.
You are SALTYYYY! Confidence is good, arrogance is not. Lets hope the day never does come, but in Boston it will, where you may have to shit or get off the pot. Degrees are great to have, but you papers can't stop knives or bullets. Get some time in before you start running your mouth.



Posted by: MM1799

Let her be arrogant, let her be brash, let her wave her languages and degrees in peoples' faces. It hardly impresses anyone. When she gets some real experience outside of a controlled enviroment; she'll "get it" too.
I think we've all seen our department's version of God's gift to the police community. I'd wager to bet over half of them aren't even on the job anymore while us lowly, stupid and "regular" cops are still chugging away.

Good luck.



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post
Those that can, do.
Those that can't do, teach.
Those that can't teach, teach at the Police Academy.

You'll learn more in the first year with a good partner who trains you correctly than you would with 5 years of academy instruction. Your post, although effective and written quite well, makes you sound more like a future Command Staff weenie than an actual street cop. Just my .02 cents. HC
Housingcop, You do have to admit that there's some pretty decent cops that teach at every academy. We all know some get the assignment by "who they know" and not what they know. Others get it to ride out their career. I went thru Waltham many years ago. Great instructors from several different depts. Carl Lembo and Billy Taranto, and Rob Sterring (Now and author) all had knowledge, humor and street smarts, plus they treated everyone fair. Lots of other cops too but I can't remember them all. I'm sure you can think of a few also...and recall many things they said that have that have helped you in your career.



Posted by: HousingCop

trueblue,
sure, I understand that SOME instructors are great with a balance of book smarts & street savvy who make great educators. A Lieutenant at the above academy (retired now thankfully) reminded me of Thurston Howell 3rd and was proud of his 20+ years in the academy and his 25+ service in the JAG during the "First Gulf Sandbox War" --his words. At in-service one year, he told us that we'd have to speak up since he was a little deaf in one ear since he had returned from the war. When asked what had happened, he said a SCUD had dropped nearby his JAG quarters. When I spoke up and asked if it was because he was maybe a bit too close to the air conditioning unit, he wasn't too happy.

Lots of 1 year wonders who teach there & get to go back once they get their toes wet in the water. What can a guy with 1 year street experience teach a new recruit? Absolutely ZERO. Occasionally you'll get a great instructor who has the blend and balance of a cop / educator but as Delta says, you'll get the best expereince working in the streets and by keeping your yap shut until you know what the f@ck you're talking about.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post
What can a guy with 1 year street experience teach a new recruit?
Best places to eat perhaps?



Posted by: robodope

Actually a first year recruit can show you what "Not" to do. Any good first year person keeps the mouth closed, ears and eyes open. And if your really smart can learn something from those guys you consider disgruntled old vets. A good rookie cop will watch and take the best of what people do (and I dont care how bad you think someone is chances are they do SOMETHING well), and combine it with your own strong points. That's what makes a good officer.



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post
trueblue,
sure, I understand that SOME instructors are great with a balance of book smarts & street savvy who make great educators. A Lieutenant at the above academy (retired now thankfully) reminded me of Thurston Howell 3rd and was proud of his 20+ years in the academy and his 25+ service in the JAG during the "First Gulf Sandbox War" --his words. At in-service one year, he told us that we'd have to speak up since he was a little deaf in one ear since he had returned from the war. When asked what had happened, he said a SCUD had dropped nearby his JAG quarters. When I spoke up and asked if it was because he was maybe a bit too close to the air conditioning unit, he wasn't too happy.

Lots of 1 year wonders who teach there & get to go back once they get their toes wet in the water. What can a guy with 1 year street experience teach a new recruit? Absolutely ZERO. Occasionally you'll get a great instructor who has the blend and balance of a cop / educator but as Delta says, you'll get the best expereince working in the streets and by keeping your yap shut until you know what the f@ck you're talking about.
All good points. And by your description of that Lt.....I realized who it was! The more I thought of it the more and more positive I was as to who it is!!! I attended an in service many years ago and he did exactly what you said. Told everyone how deaf he was and on and on. I felt bad for the guy until some BPD guys told us he was all BS. He was a condecending instructor and I would have liked to have been there when you said that. I'm sure he never brought up the subject again.



Posted by: Hopeful76

Anyone heard anything recently (past couple of weeks or so) regarding this May class? I have gone through the entire process but still haven't gotten a date for the PAT and I keep hearing that the class is going in May 27th.. will there be another class after this May class? Just wondering because I haven't heard anything in about 2 weeks now... just waiting (again).

Also.. does anyone know where there is a wall similar to the wall at the PAT to practice on?

Thank you



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful76 View Post
Anyone heard anything recently (past couple of weeks or so) regarding this May class? I have gone through the entire process but still haven't gotten a date for the PAT and I keep hearing that the class is going in May 27th.. will there be another class after this May class? Just wondering because I haven't heard anything in about 2 weeks now... just waiting (again).

Also.. does anyone know where there is a wall similar to the wall at the PAT to practice on?

Thank you
A friend of mine going thru same process. He took the PAT last Wednesday. Could be that you might be one of the last to get notified if all is well with your background check. May 27th is the start date, (You get Monday off). Don't know about another class. Mennino could ask for more cops especially if shooting, killings etc. continue. But if you look at the academy website (bostonpoliceacademy.com) about 300+ cops have graduated in the last 3 years. Are they losing alot to retirement/resigning? Concerning the wall.....don't know where there is one you could use. Although I have heard some have made their own to practice on.



Posted by: Hopeful76

I know a couple of people that had their PAT this past week as well. Then there are several of us whom are at the same stage I'm in, waiting for the PAT, maybe we are the last minute recruits? Supposedly everything has been ok so far with my background, no idea why I'm waiting again, but I'm used to it at this point.

The violence is increasing here in Boston along with the nice weather... much of it amongst young adults, it's crazy...

Thanks, guess it's just another waiting game at this point.



Posted by: trueblue

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hopeful76 View Post
I know a couple of people that had their PAT this past week as well. Then there are several of us whom are at the same stage I'm in, waiting for the PAT, maybe we are the last minute recruits? Supposedly everything has been ok so far with my background, no idea why I'm waiting again, but I'm used to it at this point.

The violence is increasing here in Boston along with the nice weather... much of it amongst young adults, it's crazy...

Thanks, guess it's just another waiting game at this point.
Good luck. Keep on training.



Posted by: afdell

For the people who took the PAT for Boston, Are you 10's? military? female?
Im going through the process as well..Im a 10 band.... and waiting.... But I havent been scheduled for a PAT... or for the psychological...
Did you guys already have a psychological interview?



Posted by: Grasshopper

In no way am I defending my aforementioned statements. There is no need to defend them but since you have such a great screen name and an even better avatar I thought I’d give you a response. Did you (not only yourself but all others who responded negatively) see whom my first post was directed toward? I was advising someone (and whoever else might be reading this board) who is interested in the Boston Police Academy. He threw back a flippant reply. Should I not admonishingly retort? I feel the need to give back. When I was in his shoes, I visited this site and others similar. I did not make glib, sardonic remarks or replies to police officers nice enough to give advice. My ears, eyes and even nose were open while my mouth was firmly shut! If I had a (hopefully) worthwhile question I directed it toward recruit investigations during an appropriate time. If I had chosen to pose a question to any officers here when I had decided upon a career in local law enforcement, I would hope that I would have been respectful (whether I had taken given advise or not). I did not even join this site until after I was sworn in and on the street and I did not even make a post until I felt it was absolutely necessary (with the exception of the word association game). My credentials were mentioned albeit reluctantly, so that the person whom I was addressing (and any other potentials) could see that if they conduct themselves in such a manner (i.e. relying upon gossip, disseminating gossip, being disrespectful to officers; especially those within the department in which they aspire to be a part of) then they will not get too far in the recruitment process let alone the academy. If the proliferation of gossip in regards to band 10s, 9s, 8s, or how many spots might exist for whom, when, where, how and under what circumstances was to continue then it may dissuade potentially qualified candidates to my department. I might miss out on having a good partner, superior or subordinate that way. I spoke up. Who better to give advice on the process of admittance into the academy as well as a successful course through it (without relaying sensitive information obviously) than a recent grad who graduated at the top of his or her class, passed the physical abilities test on the first try etc? Someone from recruit investigations would be but they would give even far more limited information and rightfully so! I wouldn’t want any recruit knowing anymore than he or she had to. As far as I can tell it was far better for me, knowing the little I did from them. They couldn’t have been anymore professional.

The only other officer whom I had replied, I did so in response to his insult of my brothers and sisters of the department of which I belong (i.e. the academy staff). I would hope that you yourself or HousingCop would be just as quick to defend your brothers and sisters. I’ve had the pleasure of working alongside some troopers already. I hope you haven’t or wouldn’t leave them hanging while someone vilifies them. The training I was blessed to have throughout the academy and during my time with amazing field-training officers (or even with the partners I’ve had the pleasure of serving with since), could one day be all that comes between me and a casket. More essentially, each and every one of them wears a badge…the same one that I pin upon my chest. For that, I will never be silent when someone admonishes them for what I feel to be no good reason (Those that can, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't teach, teach at the Police Academy). I won’t stay silent when one of my brothers or sisters is attacked verbally or otherwise. So too, if someone lays a hand one of mine, I’m in it at the bat of an eyelash as I’m sure you or housing cop would be with yours (I hope). My “fellow officers” have my life if need be. I hope your question in regards to my fellow officers is sufficiently answered (then again what matters to me is how they feel I act toward them and whether or no they know I’ve got their backs).
“If your really that badass, come to the MSP and graduate our academy!” Awe, how considerate of you! Is that an invitation? I’m not badass, I’m sweet and loveable…isn’t that what my tattoo says? Or is it badass? I don’t evaluate myself as badass or not I know where I rank quantitatively and I know when I pass or fail. If someone want to qualify me as a badass or not, that’s up to whom I work for and who I work with. Their opinions are what matters to me most (theirs, that of my family and mostly of God above). Anyway, I don’t think the MSP has had an exam since I’ve graduated college. Otherwise I probably would have considered it. I had taken the civil service exam during my final exams of my senior year. I figured hey, it’s just one more exam and I don’t need to study for this one, why not take it and give local law enforcement a shot. The MSP academy looks like a lot of fun but the possibilities of getting assigned out in the woods or on an island fall somewhere between the Patriots loosing another world championship and the Yankees winning one.
“Salty”? Like I told you, I’m sweet…I just don’t mind getting up in it. I’m arrogant? Wow you can discern that just from two posts on a message board? What’s your secret? “Lets hope the day never does come, but In Boston it will, where you shit or get off the pot,” as you so eloquently remarked…well, I suppose I most defiantly, in this case prefer shit. “Hope the day never does come”? I rather hope it does, again, and again and again. Come on now, that’s what I signed on for.

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Originally Posted by nirtallica View Post
I aplaud your efforts and accomplishments, but you are extremely arrogant for one. I hope you do not act the same around your fellow officers. Please get over yourself. If your really that badass, come to the MSP and graduate our academy!
In no way am I defending my aforementioned statements. There is no need to defend them but since you have such a great screen name and an even better avatar I thought I’d give you a response. Did you (not only yourself but all others who responded negatively) see whom my first post was directed toward? I was advising someone (and whoever else might be reading this board) who is interested in the Boston Police Academy. He threw back a flippant reply. Should I not admonishingly retort? I feel the need to give back. When I was in his shoes, I visited this site and others similar. I did not make glib, sardonic remarks or replies to police officers nice enough to give advice. My ears, eyes and even nose were open while my mouth was firmly shut! If I had a (hopefully) worthwhile question I directed it toward recruit investigations during an appropriate time. If I had chosen to pose a question to any officers here when I had decided upon a career in local law enforcement, I would hope that I would have been respectful (whether I had taken given advise or not). I did not even join this site until after I was sworn in and on the street and I did not even make a post until I felt it was absolutely necessary (with the exception of the word association game). My credentials were mentioned albeit reluctantly, so that the person whom I was addressing (and any other potentials) could see that if they conduct themselves in such a manner (i.e. relying upon gossip, disseminating gossip, being disrespectful to officers; especially those within the department in which they aspire to be a part of) then they will not get too far in the recruitment process let alone the academy. If the proliferation of gossip in regards to band 10s, 9s, 8s, or how many spots might exist for whom, when, where, how and under what circumstances was to continue then it may dissuade potentially qualified candidates to my department. I might miss out on having a good partner, superior or subordinate that way. I spoke up. Who better to give advice on the process of admittance into the academy as well as a successful course through it (without relaying sensitive information obviously) than a recent grad who graduated at the top of his or her class, passed the physical abilities test on the first try etc? Someone from recruit investigations would be but they would give even far more limited information and rightfully so! I wouldn’t want any recruit knowing anymore than he or she had to. As far as I can tell it was far better for me, knowing the little I did from them. They couldn’t have been anymore professional.

The only other officer whom I had replied, I did so in response to his insult of my brothers and sisters of the department of which I belong (i.e. the academy staff). I would hope that you yourself or HousingCop would be just as quick to defend your brothers and sisters. I’ve had the pleasure of working alongside some troopers already. I hope you haven’t or wouldn’t leave them hanging while someone vilifies them. The training I was blessed to have throughout the academy and during my time with amazing field-training officers (or even with the partners I’ve had the pleasure of serving with since), could one day be all that comes between me and a casket. More essentially, each and every one of them wears a badge…the same one that I pin upon my chest. For that, I will never be silent when someone admonishes them for what I feel to be no good reason (Those that can, do. Those that can't do, teach. Those that can't teach, teach at the Police Academy). I won’t stay silent when one of my brothers or sisters is attacked verbally or otherwise. So too, if someone lays a hand one of mine, I’m in it at the bat of an eyelash as I’m sure you or housing cop would be with yours (I hope). My “fellow officers” have my life if need be. I hope your question in regards to my fellow officers is sufficiently answered (then again what matters to me is how they feel I act toward them and whether or no they know I’ve got their backs).
“If your really that badass, come to the MSP and graduate our academy!” Awe, how considerate of you! Is that an invitation? I’m not badass, I’m sweet and loveable…isn’t that what my tattoo says? Or is it badass? I don’t evaluate myself as badass or not I know where I rank quantitatively and I know when I pass or fail. If someone want to qualify me as a badass or not, that’s up to whom I work for and who I work with. Their opinions are what matters to me most (theirs, that of my family and mostly of God above). Anyway, I don’t think the MSP has had an exam since I’ve graduated college. Otherwise I probably would have considered it. I had taken the civil service exam during my final exams of my senior year. I figured hey, it’s just one more exam and I don’t need to study for this one, why not take it and give local law enforcement a shot. The MSP academy looks like a lot of fun but the possibilities of getting assigned out in the woods or on an island fall somewhere between the Patriots loosing another world championship and the Yankees winning one.
“Salty”? Like I told you, I’m sweet…I just don’t mind getting up in it. I’m arrogant? Wow you can discern that just from two posts on a message board? What’s your secret? “Lets hope the day never does come, but In Boston it will, where you shit or get off the pot,” as you so eloquently remarked…well, I suppose I most defiantly, in this case prefer shit. “Hope the day never does come”? I rather hope it does, again, and again and again. Come on now, that’s what I signed on for.

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Something tells me you'll never see the inside of a project in your entire career.

Here's a saying you should familiarize yourself with;

"Pride cometh before the fall".
All do respect Delta784, but I’ve already had experience with the projects during my relatively short time on. So, that “something” is that tells you that is I’m sorry…wrong. “Something” telling you? I have the utmost respect and admiration for my elders (therefore I really hate to ask) but are you sure that “something” (since it’s wrong as well insulting and directed toward a fellow officer) isn’t an auditory hallucination? That is one of the symptomatic onsets of Alzheimer’s. Whose quote would be, “pride cometh before the fall”? I’d like to know whose quote it is. Then, maybe I would be able to discern if it is a valid and applicable quote to my life but thank you for your input. If that predicates the fall…hmm, where would I don’t know… self-righteous indignation be???

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Originally Posted by Delta784 View Post
Best places to eat perhaps?
A guy (or woman) with one year street experience would be able to teach a new recruit what may or may not be effective means of navigating ones way through the recruitment process as well as the academy (without giving away any sensitive information of course), especially given that the guy (or woman) may have passed the physical abilities test on the first try and was successful for the duration of the academy...and I do know some damn good places for a bite to eat as well (that much you would be right about).

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Originally Posted by robodope View Post
Actually a first year recruit can show you what "Not" to do. Any good first year person keeps the mouth closed, ears and eyes open. And if your really smart can learn something from those guys you consider disgruntled old vets. A good rookie cop will watch and take the best of what people do (and I dont care how bad you think someone is chances are they do SOMETHING well), and combine it with your own strong points. That's what makes a good officer.
Thank you, Robodope. Well done (and said like a gentleman). I as I'm sure others appreciate the advice as it was very soundly said.



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Grasshopper View Post
All do respect Delta784, but I’ve already