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Posted by: ADM1987

I am a 20 year old criminal justice major at Suffolk. I have a clean record, aldready passed an advanced FAA background check for my current job am physically fit and rarely drink and have never done drugs. I am wondering what the MSP looks for in a potential candidate as far as test scores, law enforcement experience and so forth. I am also heavily considering attending Marine Corps Officer Candidate School upon graduation of college. I am just wondering what I should do in order to position myself in the best possible way. Any ideas suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: lawdog671

Yeah stop posting that you "rarely" drink on police oriented page when you're only 20 years old.....you might want to follow the laws you profess to want to follow....and considering OCS is light years from being accepted and passing.....

Posted by: KozmoKramer

Very good LawDog..
How cavalier people can be with those "inconvenient" laws...

Posted by: Wolfman

They probably look for people who don't cavalierly admit to ongoing criminal activity on a cop board. Duh.

I weep for the future.

Posted by: REILEYDOG

Nobody else on this board ever drank when they were underage.

Posted by: Killjoy

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Nobody else on this board ever drank when they were underage.

No, but we were smart enough to never walk up to police officers and admit it.

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I am wondering what the MSP looks for in a potential candidate as far as test scores, law enforcement experience and so forth.

They don't look for anything other than a valid driver's license, high school diploma, and a clean background. In order to even be considered, you have to score high on the MSP exam. Once you breach that barrier, then your education and experience will come into play with your background check and oral boards. There probably won't be another exam offered until 2009.

Posted by: MSP75

Don't forget that one can also file a lawsuit if unqualified or if one has an impediment that would make a dangerous incident even more so.

Posted by: Rock

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Originally Posted by MSP75

Don't forget that one can also file a lawsuit if unqualified or if one has an impediment that would make a dangerous incident even more so.

Is that that new "sarcasm" thing?

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Rock

Is that that new "sarcasm" thing?

No, that's the new "truth" thing.

Posted by: dcs2244

:l:

Posted by: coldsteel

Kid I wouldnt concern myself with tryin to get on the MSP... By the time they have another exam your gonna be 40... So in the meantime while you and 70,00000 other people wait for the exam go live it up and enjoy your youth.... Just my .02.

Posted by: 1234hey

Hopefully we'll get to see another state police exam relatively sooner than later. Run and pray.

I don't want to rehash this thread, but is there any troopers out there that may have heard anything? anything?

Posted by: MM1799

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Originally Posted by 1234hey

I don't want to rehash this thread, but is there any troopers out there that may have heard anything? anything?

Ya, when an exam date is decided on it'll be posted on the MSP website.
If an RTT is scheduled, those that it affects will be notified accordingly.

Posted by: lawdog671

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Originally Posted by REILEYDOG

Nobody else on this board ever drank when they were underage.

If you want a job being a cop...and you take it seriously...how do you come on a police oriented website and say something like that? Or worse how do you condone it? Justify something inconsequetial like that and what's next? Escorting drug dealers like the Boston guy who got locked up?? I think that it speaks towards your character a little bit...(no offense to any Boston guys just most recent in my mind)

Posted by: ride1620

While your waiting for the test..relax and have a couple drinks

Posted by: MSP75

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Originally Posted by Rock

Is that that new "sarcasm" thing?

You've been a road dawg long enough to know 99% of what I say is sarcasm. When it is not, be worried!

Posted by: Foxy85

Ok, so he was stupid and admitted to boozing it up a bit while being underage....we all did stupid shit....

While we did not actaully walk up to police officers and admit it, I can appreciate his honesty, and I think he was trying to be open and honest about his inquiry about the MSP.

I think comparing having a drink while being under the age of 21 to escorting drug dealers is a little out of context...

Posted by: msp428

how old do you have to be to take the test?

Posted by: LawWoman

Its not hard, just drive East/West on the pike or North/South 495, and youll get the hang of it.

Posted by: Foxy85

Alright, no where in this thread are people taking shots at the State Police, and then comes along LawWoman.....I think they do a bit more than that.....

Its funny, we took a poll in the R/I academy....most people were knocking the MSP and busting their chops, all in good fun. But then when we took an anonymous survey asking everyone in the class if they were offered a job with the state police or a local department, which they would choose....about 75% said State Police....

So LawWoman, are you one of those people who throw shots at Troopers, but secretly want to be one?

Posted by: MM1799

Just another hero hiding behind a keyboard. Hardly anything/anyone to get worked up over.

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by LawWoman

Its not hard, just drive East/West on the pike or North/South 495, and youll get the hang of it.

LawWoman is apparently a late entry for the 2007 "Most Abrasive Newbie" award.

Posted by: MM1799

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Originally Posted by Delta784

LawWoman is apparently a late entry for the 2007 "Most Abrasive Newbie" award.

Too late, mechanixman won that by a LONG shot.

Posted by: LawWoman

Ok, ya got me, I wasnt really serious. In fact Troopers are my favorites, After all, I am a true badge bunny, not a wanna be like Foxy.

Posted by: 94c

We can have one for each sex.

Maybe toss one in for transvestites too.

Posted by: JLT770

Quote:

Originally Posted by MM1799

Too late, mechanixman won that by a LONG shot.

i bet hes out there settling things the old irish way, the only way he knows how

Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by MM1799

Too late, mechanixman won that by a LONG shot.

True...I had blocked him from my mind. Then again, has anyone ever seen mechanixman and LawWoman in the same room??

Posted by: MDSP2597

OUCH! If the response is, I'll get Big Irish and you get.... and we'll settle it the old Irish way, then you know they are one in the same... lol

Posted by: lawdog671

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Originally Posted by Foxy85

Ok, so he was stupid and admitted to boozing it up a bit while being underage....we all did stupid shit....

While we did not actaully walk up to police officers and admit it, I can appreciate his honesty, and I think he was trying to be open and honest about his inquiry about the MSP.

I think comparing having a drink while being under the age of 21 to escorting drug dealers is a little out of context...

I was being open and honest too..
My point was that if you're predisposed to breaking the law before you even get the job, what will you do once you get the badge?? I took it in exactly the context I wrote it as. No offense to you Foxy, but because you said it, don't you think its that kind of "it's not that big a deal" attitude that encourages guys like the boston kid in the first place?? If you respect the job, you have to stop that stuff before it gets out of control and gives the profession more of a black eye. The media already does that for us.

LAWWOMAN...you got MSP pegged huh? If its so east why aren't you on instead of Mefford???....

Posted by: GodblessThearmy

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Originally Posted by Delta784

True...I had blocked him from my mind. Then again, has anyone ever seen mechanixman and LawWoman in the same room??

On the other hand, think mechanixman would know what to do with a "Women" while in the same room???

Posted by: Foxy85

[quote=lawdog671] No offense to you Foxy, but because you said it, don't you think its that kind of "it's not that big a deal" attitude that encourages guys like the boston kid in the first place?? quote]

Not really, I'm not condoning it at all. But when you drink at a party in high school, whos really thinking about whether or not it will affect their career in the future...

Save the arguement of "then where does it stop, cocaine, heroine?" because its shit...If he goes on to try that shit than he derserves what he gets

I drank plenty of beer in high school, and while it was stupid, its not going to prevent my getting into law enforcement....The job doesn't require being a saint prior to employment.....

You drank underage (didn't get caught) and now you want to be a police officer....fine, but clean up your act, because in this state, they will find any reason to skip to the next person on the list....too much competition in this state to have ANY slip ups on your background

Posted by: GodblessThearmy

I figure high school to be a 4 yr. grace period. If you are still doing that same shit 5 years later, then it is a problem.

Posted by: MM1799

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Originally Posted by Foxy85

but clean up your act, because in this state, they will find any reason to skip to the next person on the list....too much competition in this state to have ANY slip ups on your background

Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxy85

I drank plenty of beer in high school, and while it was stupid, its not going to prevent my getting into law enforcement

Please see YOUR above post. Please explain your logic as to how if "they" will find any reason to skip someone; that it doesn't apply to you?

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by MM1799

Please see YOUR above post. Please explain your logic as to how if "they" will find any reason to skip someone; that it doesn't apply to you?

I'm living proof that if someone important wants you skipped, whether it's for personal reasons or because they want to get to someone lower down the list, the PTB will find a reason to skip you.

In my case, it was mystery high blood pressure that I didn't have before, and haven't had since that one day in the city doctor's (who is now is prison for molesting female patients) office. That cost me 11 months seniority.

Posted by: lawdog671

Not really, I'm not condoning it at all. But when you drink at a party in high school, whos really thinking about whether or not it will affect their career in the future...
The ones who care do....
Save the arguement of "then where does it stop, cocaine, heroine?" because its shit...
Yeah, so who cares about all the studies done, Phd's data and research, because you say there's no such thing as gateway drugs or those behaviors that are associated.....and you're really smart too so... (heroine = female hero...heroin=opiate)
I drank plenty of beer in high school, and while it was stupid, its not going to prevent my getting into law enforcement...The job doesn't require being a saint prior to employment
So you're not even "on the job" yet and you know what is preferred in candidates and what kind of CRIMINAL activity should be overlooked??? I tried to be polite before but now I don't care...If that's how you think..I think it demonstrates a serious lack of judgement and maturity on your part...seeing how it's illegal and arrestable..something that Im sure with your 22 years on this earth and all your knowledge about what someone on the "job" may need...and I'm assuming since you drank "plenty" of beer it wasn't an isolated incident...and hence you're no different than the first kid on here...talking about how you break the law on a cop website but you're really a great candidate to be a cop....know-it-all
"Well the world needs ditchdiggers too...." Judge Smail from Caddyshack

Posted by: JLT770

adding on to that last sentence. "the world needs plenty of bartendahs" -Capt. Ellerby from The Departed

Posted by: Foxy85

Not about not applying to me as far as what I did in high school....I'm sorry I wasn't at home playing video games and wacking off ( though i did do my fair share of that too!)....I was at partys, drinking and getting laid....I joined the service after high school, and then went to work for the courts. Its pretty simple... I grew up after high-school... No need for you to get all hot and bothered because someone doesn't see it 'your way'.

The kid came on here asking for advice so I gave him mine. I have a good state job, own my own condo, and am happily married, all completed with "my 22 years on this earth".

All I'm saying, is that because he had fun in high school, and didn't get caught, isn't cause for concern for him getting on the job. So long as he corrected his behavior after high school.

And I mis-spelled heroin.... Thankyou for checking my spelling, it is greatly appreciated....

Posted by: MM1799

lawdog, dont even waste your time. It's not like you've actually been through the process and have become a tpr or anything. What would you know compared to a 22yr court security officer? Let these kids find out the hard way whether or not "a little partying" during highschool comes back to haunt people.

Posted by: tommym27

let he who is without sin cast the first stone...am i to actually believe that the people who are getting all worked up over foxy's opinion...opinion being a very key word...never did anything that could have got them in trouble with the law as a kid? please.

Posted by: SinePari

Nowadays, you have to also watch your online identity. That shit can come back to haunt you. Just ask the 78th RTT.

Posted by: TopCop24

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Originally Posted by SinePari

Nowadays, you have to also watch your online identity. That shit can come back to haunt you. Just ask the 78th RTT.

Dont forget the 79th too, because it came up there too

Posted by: lawdog671

Yeah I mean what do I know about making troopers ...I mean I only spent couple years in New Braintree doing just that...but say what you like...Foxy..Lawwoman....you bust my balls about correcting your spelling but it proves my point...you're ignorant...you just don't know what you're talking about..and you're telling some kid here who is seeking information who happens to be giving out too much info that it's okay to do so when it's not...and you don't know any better...that's bogus...but you were in the military and own a condo so it OBVIOUSLY qualifies you ....offer advice on things you know...offer advice on the state job you have....and check your profile because it says you are 22..

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawdog671

Yeah I mean what do I know about making troopers ...I mean I only spent couple years in New Braintree doing just that...but say what you like...Foxy..Lawwoman....you bust my balls about correcting your spelling but it proves my point...you're ignorant...you just don't know what you're talking about..and you're telling some kid here who is seeking information who happens to be giving out too much info that it's okay to do so when it's not...and you don't know any better...that's bogus...but you were in the military and own a condo so it OBVIOUSLY qualifies you ....offer advice on things you know...offer advice on the state job you have....and check your profile because it says you are 22..

Sometimes we lose focus that the internet is the closest some people will ever get to being a cop.

Posted by: Foxy85

Ugh, you're blowing this thing way out of context.

I simply feel that if you weren't a saint in high school, that you're shots of being a police officer are not blown. No one is saying you don't know anything about troopers. I have no idea what you know. I'm telling him what I know. Not everything is black and white. Take a breath man...

He admitted to it, its too late now. I admitted to it...not a big deal. I'll admit to it in an interview too. It was highschool.... I'm not the same person I was in H.S., end of story....

Posted by: SinePari

Eventually, there will be an 80th RTT. Some people on this board have been, or will be instructors at the SPA. The things you write now will blow up in your face and you'll be cursing yourself after the interview board over some stupid shit.

It sounds retarded but even in corporate America professional people looking to be hired by some big-bucks company have found themselves back on Monster.com because of some BS on the internet. So it's not a threat, just a reality check.

A fucking court officer giving another kid advice on to become a Trooper? C'mon, that's precious. You shouldn't have even typed one keystroke in this thread guy. It's called staying in your lane.

Posted by: 1234hey

I think some guys reading this thread are troopers or want to be troopers, and for those of us trying to become troopers, I believe we are trying to cover a ton of ground by asking questions about our pasts. Whether or not certain incidents will weigh heavily during hiring. I noticed the younger guys are openly anxious, we all are, but remember if your past shouldn't be a concern, which you should know by now, then leave it as done and over with. Live and learn. Most importantly, it's how you've matured over the years. Right?

If I could change anything, I would have taken the 02' exam! Ha Ha.

Most of us wannabe troopers, except for a few and we all know who, are decent guys trying to get advice from the veteran people. Personally, I can only ask for directions then lead into academy/testing talk so many times with a statie or call my trooper friends trying to get the next testing dates. The waiting sucks!

Call HR and put your name on their list, keep it clean, run, run, run, pray, then run some more.

Posted by: Foxy85

I'll end my opinion on this thread with this....

Apparently no troopers ever had a beer when they were in high school....Give the kid a break...

Posted by: JLT770

They are Troopers, we are not. The End.

Posted by: lawdog671

Apparently no troopers ever had a beer when they were in high school....Give the kid a break...
Maybe some of us had better things to do playing sports than wasting brain cells in a parking lot or the woods...
Ill end my posts with this. I think that if anyone is blowing things out of proportion it may be you Foxy. The kid that started this thread asked an honest question, was given an honest answer, and you chose to involve yourself in something that you know very little on. Have most troopers had a beer in high school? Some may have some may not I cant speak for anyone but me. The point of MY post was to say DONT MAKE IT KNOWN ON A PUBLIC FORUM THAT STATE POLICE OFFICERS READ THAT YOU BREAK THE LAW, because some of whom as Sinepari said have, are currently, or may be instructors up at the Academy. One may do this kids background invest if he gets that far, know about the kids screen-name like many people doing interviews are learning about from Myspace, and when his answers aren't CONSISTENT during the interview process he gets bounced and loses the chance of a lifetime for being dishonest. YOU may be happy with the condo, dog, 22 years at the court, etc..but for someone looking to START his career, YOUR bad advice could have ended it before it started. Harmless opinion on your part? Probably. My point to you was...don't offer advice about something you're not 100 % sure about, because you might be WRONG.
No more comments from LAWWOMAN huh??

Posted by: Wolfman

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I have a clean record, aldready passed an advanced FAA background check for my current job am physically fit and rarely drink and have never done drugs.

It's not so much that the kid had a beer, its that he continues to engage in this activity (rarely or not) and in context feels that it isn't a big deal.

Whether or not you or I or anyone else on this board had a beer when they were a kid is immaterial. The issue is this guy, and the pervading attitude that "some" underage drinking is OK. It is not OK, it is illegal, and if you want to be a cop you better cut that shit out right now. Not cut it back, cut it out. You'll be 21 soon and maybe then you'll realize what not a big deal drinking really is - when it's legal.

Posted by: Foxy85

Some how the line between this kids "rarely" drinking and my drinking in H.S. became a little hazy.....

You're absolutely right if he continues on this path, hes a moron....My point was that if one did stupid shit as a juvenille, its not a done deal for them as far as getting on the job. Most kids don't plan to be police officers at 15,16,17....If youre 20 and want to be a police officer, and are drinking, then I see lawdogs point of view. Apparently I'm mildly retahded and didn't read it very carefully....

Apologies to lawdog....

Posted by: lawdog671

Apoligies not needed but accepted...

Posted by: emerlad

Not to break up the love fest...
Spelling is not either one of your strong suits.
If you don't get on for underage drinking, and there are others that got on for known heroin use.
Say to yourself, SELF welcome to the world of LE. (in Mass).

Heroin use use may be a bit dramatic, but fake injuries of female trainee's surely is not.

Posted by: SinePari

Quote:

Originally Posted by emerlad

Not to break up the love fest...
Spelling is not either one of your strong suits.
If you don't get on for underage drinking, and there are others that got on for known heroin use.
Say to yourself, SELF welcome to the world of LE. (in Mass).

Heroin use use may be a bit dramatic, but fake injuries of female trainee's surely is not.

Man! New here and off the top ropes already!

Posted by: lawdog671

[quote=emerlad]Not to break up the love fest...
Spelling is not either one of your strong suits.
If you don't get on for underage drinking, and there are others that got on for known heroin use.
Say to yourself, SELF welcome to the world of LE. (in Mass).
Heroin use use may be a bit dramatic, but fake injuries of female trainee's surely is not.
So I said to myself, "Self...If I decide to break someone's balls about their spelling...maybe I should use full, intelligent sentences that people can understand!"
I didn't use spell check you're right..douchebag..however I can. Too bad for you but you'll always be dumb.

Don't interrupt the love fest again...

Posted by: redsox03

Quote:

Originally Posted by emerlad

Who brought the cool kid.

Posted by: emerlad

You broke the guys stones over spelling errors.
Don't be so sensitive.
I thought drill instructors are not supposed to get so emotional.
See I can insult in the form of a sentence.

The State Police may not be the exact agency you want.
Do not underestimate the Fed criminal investigators position.
Good money, great hours, great retirement.
This means quite a bit when it comes family time.

Posted by: Foxy85

Does anyone get the feeling that hes writing a poem when you look at the way hes typing out his "opinion"....

I can't seem to follow what the hell hes talking about..... I call B.S.

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxy85

Does anyone get the feeling that hes writing a poem when you look at the way hes typing out his "opinion"....

A Maya Angelou poem, at best.

Posted by: lawdog671

Who's emotional?....I called you a douche without getting worked up. See? No sweat. Thanks for the concern over my blood pressure though.

Posted by: Macop

Sinepari and topcop dont leave us haning. Sounds like you guys have some good stories, lets hear.

Posted by: LawWoman

Have not been on in a while, had no idea my comment would piss off so many people. I was not trying to be mean. I apologize to any MSP personel that were offended. I have worked with you guys in the past and you are top notch. And on another note, Foxy ought not speak when the only thing that falls out is shit. I'm 41yrs old with 18Yrs on and cannot stand kids like Foxy blabbing about stuff they have no clue. And no I don't work for Medford, My little brother does, I just lateralled into a city near Medford. At any rate if you want to be a cop, don't go on Police discussion boards and admit to shit when its a very good potential that possible MSP personel you may encounter have read your posts and somehow put 2 and 2 together. Holy shit, if you can't figure that out, apply to Mcdonalds.

Posted by: Foxy85

A day late and a dollar short you flipping idiot, Lawwhore.....

YOUR ignorance has been observed on more than just this thread....get a life you troll...

Posted by: Macop

Just tell her how ya really feel.

Posted by: SinePari

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawWoman

At any rate if you want to be a cop, don't go on Police discussion boards and admit to shit when its a very good potential that possible MSP personel you may encounter have read your posts and somehow put 2 and 2 together. Holy shit, if you can't figure that out, apply to Mcdonalds.

Finally, the voice of reason.

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinePari

Finally, the voice of reason.

They finally balanced her meds.

Posted by: Rock

What a shame this thread became an underage drinkng bash session. I feel disappointed and let down that no one has told me the exact way to "become a Massachusetts State Trooper"! I thought the internet had everything?

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock

What a shame this thread became an underage drinkng bash session. I feel disappointed and let down that no one has told me the exact way to "become a Massachusetts State Trooper"! I thought the internet had everything?

It's not rocket science....this applies for any police job in MA;

1) Keep your nose clean.

2) Score well on the test.

3) Be truthful on your background packet.

4) Call in your dimes if you have them.

5) Hope for the best.

Posted by: Rock

Gee thanks Delta.....I really hope I make it!

Posted by: Sniper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock

Gee thanks Delta.....I really hope I make it!

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock

Gee thanks Delta.....I really hope I make it!

I called New Braintree and put in a good word for you; you're all set.

Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

Just get on the MBTA bandwagon they all want to be TROOPERS too

Posted by: SinePari

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE

Just get on the MBTA bandwagon they all want to be TROOPERS too

Why? I'd take their retirement plan over any other in this state.

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