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Letter to Editor-Glodis should be jailer

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Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwflatbed
str8tshot52 (Glodis) went to NH for the Clinton show.
Ah quiet again.
Nah, I think he just works M-F and doesn't believe in his cause enough to debate it on his own time.


Posted by: 94c

Deputies are nothing but whackers with money to spend.
They try to pull up on a call and ask if you're all set.

Screw you.

They sneak their way into road details. Sorry, we just shut down the job. Go home.

Screw you.

I recall a deadly situation last year at the Foxy Lady. Local Srt, Stop Team, MSP SRT Team, Detectives, CPAC, uniform guys, you name it.

Some deputy hack shows up and now he's trapped on a road that has become a parking lot for 5 hours. He didn't do a damn thing but sit there with nowhere to go.

Unfortunately everyone else was too busy to assist him in getting out. (During the ensuing chaos he somehow got boxed in.)

Trapped like a rat with nowhere to go. Classic.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
Unfortunately everyone else was too busy to assist him in getting out.
What a shame.


Posted by: lawdog671

There is not an objective test, but experience is a factor, so are the annual evaluations conducted by the candidate's immediate supervisor and the formal interview. It is far from perfect. But so is civil service.
You read the part of my post that said I worked there for quite some time correct? Experience doesn't mean as much as you would have some believe. I happen to know of a north county guy who went through the ranks from CO to Lieutenant (his rank as of my departure there) in record time. Think that had more to do with how much the check was for.
str8 said would infer that he is suggesting that local law enforcement would collapse without assistance from the sheriff
Now let him defend himself; he dug his own hole. I think otherwise.
They are not considered correctional officers, they don't make the same money or get benefits, and cannot perform many of the duties of a correctional officer.
You would mean like outside the jail for prisoner transports and hospital trips? You and I both know inside "Temps" are CO's for all practical purposes.
What academy did you complete that would have made you eligible to be sworn as a deputy authorized to take enforcement action (not a powerless reserve)? I know for a FACT that you did not have more than me, alone.
OTTO we crossed this bridge a long time ago. When I called you out about where in WCSO you worked, you fell off the face of the earth. The reserve/intermittent class is all you need to get appointed as a deputy. Which no offense to R/I academy trained people on this site is barely enough to make you dangerous (who wouldn't go to a full time if they had the chance?) Post your resume for all of us to gander at....I'll prob know who you are in a second because there weren't that many over qualified people there when I was...you'll be easy to spot...15 years ago that was a big deal to me..could care less now. I know many deputies out there are FORMER police...that being said...Retired/Fired whatever...there's a reason they are no longer cops.
I agree with you that your neighbor and those like her should not get appointed as anything. That being said, she is a reserve, unpaid, untrained and not allowed to wear a uniform or take any action whatsoever.
Her and many others are out there tossing out that their badge as they're doing stupid stuff, to anyone who will look, and that makes you guys look foolish. WHY ON EARTH would you give someone a badge for the D.S Association when they make a donation? How can you complain about being a legitimate law enforcement agency when cash donations get you a badge? I mean a TV repairman at my house flashed me a badge when I was a CO there...The problem with the logic there is that THEY DO have these badges, and when shown to John Q Public what would someone who has no idea that they paid their way in do? You don't have to wear a uniform to have someone think that you're on staff if you have a badge right?


Posted by: resqjyw0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killjoy
Round and round we go!!! Str8 dances around issues like Keanu Reeves doges bullets in the "Matrix". For me..I'm done...I guess you really can't teach calculus to a slow kid.
Yes, I've noticed the same thing. I've been done when I noticed no improvement since my last post on this. We all know this won't end until str8shot admits the WCSO hasn't made a full-fledged effort on this issue. A half-assed attempt was made, if that.

-"We are in desperate need of money to expand our overcrowding jails."
-"No."
-"Ok. That settles it."

That's what I believe the extent of the Sheriff's effort was on this.

And the pissing contest continues...try drinking some more fluids, you'll need it.


Posted by: Otto

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawdog671
...They are not considered correctional officers, they don't make the same money or get benefits, and cannot perform many of the duties of a correctional officer.
You would mean like outside the jail for prisoner transports and hospital trips? You and I both know inside "Temps" are CO's for all practical purposes.
What academy did you complete that would have made you eligible to be sworn as a deputy authorized to take enforcement action (not a powerless reserve)? I know for a FACT that you did not have more than me, alone.
OTTO we crossed this bridge a long time ago. When I called you out about where in WCSO you worked, you fell off the face of the earth. The reserve/intermittent class is all you need to get appointed as a deputy. Which no offense to R/I academy trained people on this site is barely enough to make you dangerous (who wouldn't go to a full time if they had the chance?) Post your resume for all of us to gander at....I'll prob know who you are in a second because there weren't that many over qualified people there when I was...you'll be easy to spot...15 years ago that was a big deal to me..could care less now. I know many deputies out there are FORMER police...that being said...Retired/Fired whatever...there's a reason they are no longer cops.
I agree with you that your neighbor and those like her should not get appointed as anything. That being said, she is a reserve, unpaid, untrained and not allowed to wear a uniform or take any action whatsoever.
Her and many others are out there tossing out that their badge as they're doing stupid stuff, to anyone who will look, and that makes you guys look foolish. WHY ON EARTH would you give someone a badge for the D.S Association when they make a donation? How can you complain about being a legitimate law enforcement agency when cash donations get you a badge? I mean a TV repairman at my house flashed me a badge when I was a CO there...The problem with the logic there is that THEY DO have these badges, and when shown to John Q Public what would someone who has no idea that they paid their way in do? You don't have to wear a uniform to have someone think that you're on staff if you have a badge right?
"Temps" are not qualified to carry a firearm, so they are not qualified to go on a hospital trip. The moronic practice of sending them on hospital trips ended many years ago. If this happened, did the union grieve it? They most certainly should have. What was the result?

I have never fallen off the face of the Earth. I chose not to answer you. The R/I is all you need to be appointed a police officer. I graduated a full-time municipal police academy.

You stated, "I worked IN WCSO for several years as a correctional officer..in the main jail....despite having completed an academy...and watched all the "trained" deputies that carried signs, flags in the parades, dontaed to the "re-election" fund...the entire time of which I know for a FACT I had more training than any of these hacks combined...yet I stayed inside the Jail and did my job..."

I asked, " What academy did you complete that would have made you eligible to be sworn as a deputy authorized to take enforcement action (not a powerless reserve)? I know for a FACT that you did not have more than me, alone."

Why didn't you answer? Is it because what you claimed is not true?

As for your last paragraph, I have no argument at all. It pisses me off more than you because, as you so correctly stated, it make us look foolish.

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwflatbed
"How many stops have you seen on 290? I have driven on that highway almost every day of my life, and I have never seen a WCSO cruiser on a stop on that road. I'm not saying it has never happened, though. I've heard of a handful of them being made on different highways over the last twenty years. Management has always frowned upon it.

Being on the road doesn't mean they are patrolling it."

In my many years of driving on 290 I have seen to many including me stopped by
a WSO crusier for an improper lane change in my tractor trailer as soon as I said I would see him in court the stop ended.
Your claim that you've seen to (sic) many is bull. Obviously I can't refute your claim of being stopped, personally, but I doubt it happened. A civilian saying, "I'll see you in court," isn't going to end a stop. I think you are just trying to sound like some of the others around here.


Posted by: SinePari

Otto I think you're a stand up guy on these threads. But this str8-hack guy is lamenting in the fact that when asked for help by the locals, they respond. This the juxtaposition where a major group of professionals gave an endorsement when they were given his word that this mutual aid stuff (federal or state money STOLEN from other departments) wouldn't happen.

I think the MSP has failed to support an active push to remind local PDs that all this equipment is readily available at no cost. K-9s are a bit slim, but there are many more coming in the pipeline to solve this problem. This failure on our part created a vacuum where the SO saw an opportunity to promote its mutual support as THE central Mass public safety provider to locals.

If the SO stays in business it should be trying to fund a bigger jail, which we all agree is needed, and/or a detention center for short term prisoners. Every barrack in C Troop except the new C-2 is poorly equipped to house a prisoner for more than 4 hours. If the Sheriff wants to be like all others around the country, how about taking our prisoners so we don't have to feed them happy meals 7 times before going to court on Monday.

You get a female prisoner? Forget about it. Q-5? No way. We own it. Now (we've been down this road in many threads) we have to keep an officer off the streets who was doing POLICE work to become a jail guard and babysit someone. If a van showed up once a day to take them to the house, man our smiles would be ear-to-ear and there wouldn't be any resentment.


Posted by: kwflatbed

"Your claim that you've seen to (sic) many is bull. Obviously I can't refute your claim of being stopped, personally, but I doubt it happened. A civilian saying, "I'll see you in court," isn't going to end a stop. I think you are just trying to sound like some of the others around here."

And I think you are acting like a complete A$$ like a few have asked put up or shut up, lets see what you have for training and credentials or are you just using the money tin from Glodis.

I have nothing to gain by lying the jerk that stopped me saw a MA registered truck
and not someone who would not come back to fight a ticket. If you know anything about
truck stops and drivers coming back to fight a ticket the percentage of them returning to do it is very low unless it is a major offense.

Does the sheriffs department central dispatch if they have one log all calls and
stops made by their road warriors on patrol. If they do it would be good reading material, but I doubt it exsists to many tin holders would be in trouble.


Posted by: Otto

Unfortunately, it takes years to get more beds. If and when we finally get them, it is always too little, too late. Six or eight years ago there was a big push for a regional lockup in central Mass. The studies were done and plans drawn up, but it never happened. Those that were pushing the hardest are all gone now.

Our official capacity is 800 +. The federal cap we are now under is 1251 prisoners. If it looks like we are going to go over, we have to go before the superior court for bail reviews to see who stays and who goes. The judge would rather not see us.

So, taking in people who have not yet seen a judge and not taking people ordered held by a judge creates issues. There is actually a statute prohibiting jails from being used to hold arrestees before arraignment if a police lockup is available.

When we are able to take one in we can't even legally strip search him.

I totally understand your frustrations, but there is no easy solution because of the failures of the legislature.


Posted by: 94c

Say what you want about civil service but...

How can someone not make the cut on a PD and weeks later become a CAPTAIN with the sheriff's department?

And no, it is by far not an isolated incident.


Posted by: Delta784

Only 8 hours or so before Sheriff Str8shot jumps back into the fray.


Posted by: Killjoy

Quote:
How can someone not make the cut on a PD and weeks later become a CAPTAIN with the sheriff's department?
He was paid up in the right places.


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwflatbed
You always seem to avoid answering the question as to why the WSO cruisers are always on 290 making stops.(No Patrols)

I just loved your shady answer:"Sheriff's Deputies are required, by law, to intercede if they personally witness the commission of a crime."(While ridding up and down 290
not patrolling)

Is I 290 is so crime ridden that the MSP cannot handle it.

The lesson to be learned from Sheriff Joe is how to professionally run a correctional
instution.

There is a big difference in what sheriffs are trained to do in AZ and in MA.
I know you (Glodis) would love to have the authority like Sheriff Joe has but
this is MA and you are a jailer nothing more nothing less that is your job why
not try to do it.

I would suggest that you take a tape measure and go look at a 40 foot container
and measure it out. Pick up the phone and make a call to find out they work
for housing in Iraq. Square footage inside a 20 foot container might surprise
you also and they are not made of tin.

"inmate civil and wrongful death lawsuits" sounds like the ACLU coddling the
inmates to me,now tell me that does not happen in MA with big judgements,
it would still happen if the inmates were living in a five star hotel.

"we DO have to invest in inmate rehabilitation" another big joke,what is the
return rate of the inmates released if they are not killed first. I know that is
a big money point when lobbing for funds in leftist liberal MA.

"Not so simple a problem anymore, is it? The solutions could go on forever? You sure about that?"
Very simple run the jail like it should be run,stay off the streets put
the manpower where it counts in the jail not on the streets.Quit trying
to be something you are not, a street cop.

I wasn't originally going to respond, only because the definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over and expecting a different result. I've offered every bit of information available to explain each one of your accusations, but at the end of the day, if you choose not to listen, then there's not a whole lot I can do about that.

But a few clarifications....

We still, again, do not do patrols on 290, or anywhere else. You have an example of a Sheriff's Department Officer initiating a traffic stop? Back it up, give an example. Yes, Sheriff's vehicles do take 290....they have to, it's the easiest way from the jail to the courthouse. Would you now prefer Sheriff's Department vehicles don't take certain roads?

Just so you know...in the last election, Sheriff's Joe's opponent was endorsed by EVERY SINGLE police union in the state. Every...single....one. Pick your heroes carefully.

I actually agree with you, the ACLU and MCLS are down our throats all the time with potential inmate lawsuits. Now you're going to blame us for the ACLU and MCLS "coddling" inmates? Civil lawsuits are a fact of life, and one we MUST be cognizant of. Like I said before, do YOU like your taxpayer money being paid directly to convicted inmates?

Inmate rehabilitation DOES work. Reducing recidivism means less crimes are being committed. You think the Sheriff should reduce overcrowding....well, THAT is how you do it! The best way to address crime is prevent it from occurring in the first place, and getting inmates off booze or heroin is a VERY good way to do that. You may prefer to throw your hands up in the air and give up, but we simply can't do that. I understand your cynicism, and even share some of it, but we simply can't give up and assume every single inmate will re-offend. Since you asked, the recidivism rate was about 65% when the Sheriff took office....it's down to about 55% now.

You keep saying "stay off the streets"....please, tell me where we are "on the streets". You keep using blanket generalizations....well, back it up. I've said all I can say about the K-9 unit....is that the "on the streets" you're talking about?

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
Otto I think you're a stand up guy on these threads. But this str8-hack guy is lamenting in the fact that when asked for help by the locals, they respond. This the juxtaposition where a major group of professionals gave an endorsement when they were given his word that this mutual aid stuff (federal or state money STOLEN from other departments) wouldn't happen.

I think the MSP has failed to support an active push to remind local PDs that all this equipment is readily available at no cost. K-9s are a bit slim, but there are many more coming in the pipeline to solve this problem. This failure on our part created a vacuum where the SO saw an opportunity to promote its mutual support as THE central Mass public safety provider to locals.

If the SO stays in business it should be trying to fund a bigger jail, which we all agree is needed, and/or a detention center for short term prisoners. Every barrack in C Troop except the new C-2 is poorly equipped to house a prisoner for more than 4 hours. If the Sheriff wants to be like all others around the country, how about taking our prisoners so we don't have to feed them happy meals 7 times before going to court on Monday.

You get a female prisoner? Forget about it. Q-5? No way. We own it. Now (we've been down this road in many threads) we have to keep an officer off the streets who was doing POLICE work to become a jail guard and babysit someone. If a van showed up once a day to take them to the house, man our smiles would be ear-to-ear and there wouldn't be any resentment.
Somehow you've got it in your head that the Sheriff's Office met with Chiefs and tried to elbow their way into providing assistance. How you can say that with a straight face is nothing short of amazing, but it's still not true. I said it before, and I'll say it again....if local PD's stop calling for assistance, we'll stop going. I don't know how I can make it any more simple than that. But we will NOT turn our back on a call for assistance. We will NOT, as others have suggested, recommend they "log" their need for K-9, let the guy go, and force more funding for a K-9 unit. The fact that anyone in law enforcement would even THINK this is a good idea is depressing.

As far as STOLEN money from other agencies....name it. If you're going to make such a sweeping accusation, then name it. And be specific. Mobile Command Center? The applicant WAS the Central MA Chiefs. The ONLY reason the Sheriff's Office was involved was because the Central Region Homeland Security Council required a REGIONAL public safety agency to apply. Not state, not local...regional. So, like I said, any examples of "stolen" money?

Again, I assure you the Sheriff's Office IS trying, very, very hard, for funding of a bigger jail. But, like I said before, we can't wave a magic wand and make $50 million appear. The Governor says no new money for jails, then he really means no new money. And you want to blame us for that?

Again, we would LOVE to take your short term detainees. If the cell space is there, we take them. Female inmates? Never took them, they go to Framingham....you should know that. Nothing would make us happier than to have the space to take all safekeeps. But it all comes down to space....you see, this isn't just a Sheriff's Department problem. Every PD and Trooper barracks in Central MA has a vested interest in a bigger jail. Blame the Sheriff as much as you like, but the decision simply doesn't rest with him.


Posted by: kwflatbed

"Just so you know...in the last election, Sheriff's Joe's opponent was endorsed by EVERY SINGLE police union in the state. Every...single....one. Pick your heroes carefully."


I have and dam sure Glodis is not one of them !!!!!!!
Or his Flag Waving Tin holders


Posted by: Otto

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
Say what you want about civil service but...

How can someone not make the cut on a PD and weeks later become a CAPTAIN with the sheriff's department?

And no, it is by far not an isolated incident.
There is no justifying that. It doesn't happen where I am from. Maybe it is common somewhere else.


Posted by: lawdog671

Temps" are not qualified to carry a firearm, so they are not qualified to go on a hospital trip.
Thats interesting because I went on one as a temp. I personally know it happened because I was there. Sent by a Lieutenant with an academy trained CO.
What academy did you complete that would have made you eligible to be sworn as a deputy authorized to take enforcement action (not a powerless reserve)?
At the time I was 18 years old and did the R/I Academy. I took several other classes through the training council. I'm pretty sure I said that I had more training than most there. Which in that context of my statement, it's true. If you took that as a shot to you, relax. You say you have more anyways because all though you claim it, you've never bellied up to the bar when called out about what full time academy you attended. You want to compare resumes I'm very comfortable with mine, show me yours and I ll show you mine.
Obviously I can't refute your claim of being stopped, personally, but I doubt it happened.
HUH??? Ask your Sgt. from special services stopping an MSP sergeant on 495 OUTSIDE of Worcester County..happens more than you're willing to think.

You know the fact of the matter is, as this thread initially started, was Glodis (str8sht) made a promise to focus his attention on 5 Paul X Tivnan Dr (address for the jail sorry...lol) and has not bothered to do anything resembling this promise. I am not so naive to think that as a politician he wasn't blowing smoke, but you don't make a promise to a bunch of cops to do one thing and then completely blow them off. You mention that it takes years to get more cells and then by the time you get them it's too late? Why not be proactive and lobby for the expansion of the jail to a larger capacity than you currently need? Why not focus your efforts on your primary function which is the care, custody, and control of inmates instead of attempting to expand powers?


Posted by: kwflatbed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto
There is no justifying that. It doesn't happen where I am from. Maybe it is common somewhere else.



$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Speaks $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$


Posted by: exscrew

Oh my god it happens in every county dept. in this state. The sheriff's even control the promotional test. I know one county where you have to sign out a booklet for the exam and they give you a number. You use that number to sign in when you take the test. HELLO! they know your number. Not to mention if your too stupid to spell your name right they just make you a member of management.
Civil service takes away the control of hiring and promoting from these politicians who themselves couldn't pass the background check let alone an exam for hiring or promotion.


Posted by: SinePari

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
As far as STOLEN money from other agencies....name it. If you're going to make such a sweeping accusation, then name it. And be specific. Mobile Command Center? The applicant WAS the Central MA Chiefs. The ONLY reason the Sheriff's Office was involved was because the Central Region Homeland Security Council required a REGIONAL public safety agency to apply. Not state, not local...regional. So, like I said, any examples of "stolen" money?
The who? So, when it's convenient, you're a county entity, but your budget comes out of the state. So which is it? Since when the fuck did you become the Regional public safety agency? Public Safety???

Read your line items in the state budget. Something you don't want the citizens of the entire state to read. $44 million and you fall under "independents", with virtually no over sight. Not public safety you fuckhead.

This is exactly why we're going around in circles. Something you're very good at talking in. When you want to, you blame the Central Chiefs, the Judges, federal statutes, etc. But I didn't expect you to say, "nah, there are already 3 or more command centers in Framingham, but thanks anyway". C'mon, str8-jacket, you saw an opportunity to become "public safety" and seized upon it. Score one for you.

Stolen: obtaining funds fraudulently or by deception. Again, now it's "public safety"? You're out of control. Take a fucking mission statement, stick to it, or take your fucking $44 million budget and give it to the DOC. You are completely fucked. Go back to your corner office, read these posts, try to say something witty and that I'm irrational, or I somehow can't comprehend what scam you've pulled over and over again.

So, who do you answer to? Kevin Burke in the EOPS? The Governor? The central Mass Chiefs? No one, because you're the Sheriff. Take your shiny Explorer to the beach this summer with your family and park wherever you want to. You do whatever the fuck you want to, and how dare some dipshit trooper, officer, or an otherwise concerned citizen question the means by which you run your little fiefdom. I'm done with you scam artist.


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
The who? So, when it's convenient, you're a county entity, but your budget comes out of the state. So which is it? Since when the fuck did you become the Regional public safety agency? Public Safety???

Read your line items in the state budget. Something you don't want the citizens of the entire state to read. $44 million and you fall under "independents", with virtually no over sight. Not public safety you fuckhead.

This is exactly why we're going around in circles. Something you're very good at talking in. When you want to, you blame the Central Chiefs, the Judges, federal statutes, etc. But I didn't expect you to say, "nah, there are already 3 or more command centers in Framingham, but thanks anyway". C'mon, str8-jacket, you saw an opportunity to become "public safety" and seized upon it. Score one for you.

Stolen: obtaining funds fraudulently or by deception. Again, now it's "public safety"? You're out of control. Take a fucking mission statement, stick to it, or take your fucking $44 million budget and give it to the DOC. You are completely fucked. Go back to your corner office, read these posts, try to say something witty and that I'm irrational, or I somehow can't comprehend what scam you've pulled over and over again.

So, who do you answer to? Kevin Burke in the EOPS? The Governor? The central Mass Chiefs? No one, because you're the Sheriff. Take your shiny Explorer to the beach this summer with your family and park wherever you want to. You do whatever the fuck you want to, and how dare some dipshit trooper, officer, or an otherwise concerned citizen question the means by which you run your little fiefdom. I'm done with you scam artist.
I was going to be merciful and not respond, sparing you the embarrassment of any future posts (by the way, interoperability, which you labled "jargon" means RADIO's). But I'll indugle nonetheless....The Central Regional Homeland Security Council is the "local" agency responsible for the disbursement of federal funds, under the direction of the Department of Homeland Security.I'd be happy to help you figure out the county/state thing. In 1998 half of the counties in the state were dissolved, and the agencies under their jurisdiction became state agencies. Hence, the state funding. Yes, we're still a county. 60 cities and towns....Worcester County. And yes, Worcester County is a REGION. I'll piece it together for you....Worcester County is a REGION...the WORCESTER COUNTY Sheriff's Department is a REGIONAL agency. I don't know if I can make it any simpler than that. As far as the mobile command center goes, let's try this: statewide police......not eligible, local police......not eligible, regional public safety agency.....eligible. And how does Homeland Security make sure that their funds are best used, to insure rapid response, in multi-jurisdiction setting? Use a REGIONAL agency. Again, the Central MA Chiefs requested our involvement so that they would have this resource, recognizing the value of both the technology and the availability of it. That's not "blame", that's just how it is. The ONLY job we have is to fuel it and transport it, as needed, to local police and fire departments. We operate the interoperability....sorry, radio...equipment. Is that the "police" functions that you so vehemently hate the Sheriff's Office doing?And yet, you call it stealing and fraud. And you call ME out of control?And yes, the Sheriff's Office is involved in public safety....we don't exactly operate the Registry of Deeds at the jail. If you can't understand even that, I've got nothing else for you.So you can keep on hating the Sheriff's Office, Sine Pari, and telling yourself whatever you need to. You'll say that we're "on the streets" or "acting like cops", even though NOBODY here, including you, can give any examples. I've asked you to be specific, but you can't. You'll say that we're not "focused enough" on the job of running the jail, even though you probably know that's not true, and have NO idea what that entails. You draw conclusions, but don't know how you got to them. I've given as much honest information as I know, and the most you can muster is four letter words, temper tantrums, and adolescent name calling.I know you can't change the way a person feels, but only what they think....if they're willing to. You've offered NOTHING to the conversation, Sine Pari, and made it impossible to take you seriously at all.


Posted by: Vader

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
Say what you want about civil service but...

How can someone not make the cut on a PD and weeks later become a CAPTAIN with the sheriff's department?

And no, it is by far not an isolated incident.
How about someone being promoted from Sgt. to Lt. to Assistant Deputy Superintendant (seemed to skip rankings of Capt. and Major....hmmm) to Assistant Superintendant ($100k + / year) all within 3 years.

Here's the kicker...he AND his secretary are in charge of NO staff and NO inmates.

WHAT!!!!


Posted by: resqjyw0

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8shot52
I wasn't originally going to respond, only because the definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over and expecting a different result.
Quote:
Originally Posted by str8shot52
I was going to be merciful and not respond, sparing you the embarrassment of any future posts (by the way, interoperability, which you labled "jargon" means RADIO's). But I'll indugle nonetheless....
STFU! Stop sounding like you were going to do us a favor. The fact of the matter is you responded! Nobody here is buying your shit. You can call these guys stupid all you want. I assume most of the guys you're arguing with have a college education and they know how to do the job. You can't defend something indefensible as its been stated. Your posts are annoying and they haven't accomplished anything. My advice, just stop replying and let this thread die. I don't say close this thread in case something relevant comes along in the future there is a place to put it without starting a new thread. So you're wasting yours and our time. You said it yourself, insanity is repeating the same action over and over and expecting a different result. You, therefore, are calling yourself insane. Want to do a real favor to the police side of things, do what you were going to do and actually not respond...but let's not forget the insane individual you are and will most likely respond starting off with something like "i originally wasn't going to respond with a stupid reply that is really unnecessary but I'm fucked in the head and will do so anyway."

AHHHH!!!! <==str8shot


Posted by: j809

Quote:
As far as STOLEN money from other agencies....name it.
How about stolen citation books Guy?


Posted by: pahapoika

have been reading this thread and while i will always defend correction officers , you are not one.

your some front office hack with permanent lip lock on the sheriffs johnson.

while i try to to remain civil on this board the only thing you have done is come here and piss off allot of cops.

instead of concentrating on gang information , regional lock up ,crowd control , search/apprehension ( the things we're trained for ) it sounds like a bunch of hacks have decided to go out and play cop.

i've talked to your line officers and those deputies working outside the jail have "special assignments" they don't work blocks , weekends , holidays or nights and have little or no time in.

civil servants work nights, holidays , get crappy vacation picks and after 10 years things get a little better. along the way we put up with the worst of the worst and know a another law enforcement officer when we meet one. you are not one.

you will never gain the respect you so desperately crave because you have not earned it. you put on a uniform like somebody attending a masquerade party. you are a fraud.

do the right thing and support the officers inside the walls , make peace with yourself and your job. if you really want to be a cop , attend the part-time academy , take the civil service test and work for a police department.

allot of correction officers have gone this route and then you will truly be a police officer.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
Worcester County is a REGION...the WORCESTER COUNTY Sheriff's Department is a REGIONAL agency.
Norfolk County is a region. The Norfolk County Registry of Deeds is a regional agency. And they are about as much a police agency as the sheriff's department.

Stop trying to be something you're not.


Posted by: SinePari

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
I was going to be merciful and not respond, sparing you the embarrassment of any future posts (by the way, interoperability, which you labled &quot;jargon&quot; means RADIO's). But I'll indugle nonetheless....The Central Regional Homeland Security Council is the &quot;local&quot; agency responsible for the disbursement of federal funds, under the direction of the Department of Homeland Security.I'd be happy to help you figure out the county/state thing. In 1998 half of the counties in the state were dissolved, and the agencies under their jurisdiction became state agencies. Hence, the state funding. Yes, we're still a county. 60 cities and towns....Worcester County. And yes, Worcester County is a REGION. I'll piece it together for you....Worcester County is a REGION...the WORCESTER COUNTY Sheriff's Department is a REGIONAL agency. I don't know if I can make it any simpler than that. As far as the mobile command center goes, let's try this: statewide police......not eligible, local police......not eligible, regional public safety agency.....eligible. And how does Homeland Security make sure that their funds are best used, to insure rapid response, in multi-jurisdiction setting? Use a REGIONAL agency. Again, the Central MA Chiefs requested our involvement so that they would have this resource, recognizing the value of both the technology and the availability of it. That's not &quot;blame&quot;, that's just how it is. The ONLY job we have is to fuel it and transport it, as needed, to local police and fire departments. We operate the interoperability....sorry, radio...equipment. Is that the &quot;police&quot; functions that you so vehemently hate the Sheriff's Office doing?And yet, you call it stealing and fraud. And you call ME out of control?And yes, the Sheriff's Office is involved in public safety....we don't exactly operate the Registry of Deeds at the jail. If you can't understand even that, I've got nothing else for you.So you can keep on hating the Sheriff's Office, Sine Pari, and telling yourself whatever you need to. You'll say that we're &quot;on the streets&quot; or &quot;acting like cops&quot;, even though NOBODY here, including you, can give any examples. I've asked you to be specific, but you can't. You'll say that we're not &quot;focused enough&quot; on the job of running the jail, even though you probably know that's not true, and have NO idea what that entails. You draw conclusions, but don't know how you got to them. I've given as much honest information as I know, and the most you can muster is four letter words, temper tantrums, and adolescent name calling.I know you can't change the way a person feels, but only what they think....if they're willing to. You've offered NOTHING to the conversation, Sine Pari, and made it impossible to take you seriously at all.
Are you stealing crack from your K-9 seizures, Guy? I don't know 100% of the facts that you seem to put the eternal spin on, Guy. You never asked me for specific examples but I do know this. Your budget comes from the STATE with no over sight, Guy. You BECAME the Regional Public Safety Agency with the stroke of the pen, Guy. I'm willing to bet Kevin Burke doesn't even know where WCSO is, but you claim to be Public Safety now. I've called you out on the state money, and yet you still continue to spin spin spin spin spin spin spin.

"It was Central Mass Chiefs fault. It's the judges fault. It's the federal statutes fault. Some nerd in Washington cut us a check because he's too stupid to realize the WCSO is NOT public safety". Boo-fucking hoo. And I'll bet you're laughing at us because WE had to take a test and an academy. You, Guy, had to take money from your buddies and daddy, place signs every where and scam the public into thinking you're something you're not.

Again, you're claiming to be "Public Safety" when money is being passed out from the feds, but who do you answer to? Burke? Patrick? There is no county comptroller or council is there? Nobody. Take your Explorer, and the ones you give to your biggest donors around the state for campaign meetings, plan your next big office take over, and continue to dupe the feds, the state and the public for $$$ that should be going somewhere else Guy. I'll check back for an answer to this one when you come to work at 9.

Scam artist. Probably sells Amway too.


Posted by: Otto

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawdog671
Temps" are not qualified to carry a firearm, so they are not qualified to go on a hospital trip.
Thats interesting because I went on one as a temp. I personally know it happened because I was there. Sent by a Lieutenant with an academy trained CO.
What academy did you complete that would have made you eligible to be sworn as a deputy authorized to take enforcement action (not a powerless reserve)?
At the time I was 18 years old and did the R/I Academy. I took several other classes through the training council. I'm pretty sure I said that I had more training than most there. Which in that context of my statement, it's true. If you took that as a shot to you, relax. You say you have more anyways because all though you claim it, you've never bellied up to the bar when called out about what full time academy you attended. You want to compare resumes I'm very comfortable with mine, show me yours and I ll show you mine.
Obviously I can't refute your claim of being stopped, personally, but I doubt it happened.
HUH??? Ask your Sgt. from special services stopping an MSP sergeant on 495 OUTSIDE of Worcester County..happens more than you're willing to think.

You know the fact of the matter is, as this thread initially started, was Glodis (str8sht) made a promise to focus his attention on 5 Paul X Tivnan Dr (address for the jail sorry...lol) ... Why not be proactive and lobby for the expansion of the jail to a larger capacity than you currently need? Why not focus your efforts on your primary function which is the care, custody, and control of inmates instead of attempting to expand powers?

This is what you said: ...the entire time of which I know for a FACT I had more training than any of these hacks combined...

This is what I said: ...Temps" are not qualified to carry a firearm, so they are not qualified to go on a hospital trip. The moronic practice of sending them on hospital trips ended many years ago. If this happened, did the union grieve it? They most certainly should have. What was the result?

I did not say it never happened.

This is what I said: How many stops have you seen on 290? I have driven on that highway almost every day of my life, and I have never seen a WCSO cruiser on a stop on that road. I'm not saying it has never happened, though. I've heard of a handful of them being made on different highways over the last twenty years. Management has always frowned upon it.

I said that I doubted the individuals' claim.

So, you thing that if we ask, they will give us more than we currently need, even though they won't even give us what we need?


Posted by: kwflatbed

Otto i have nothing against you but the more you post defending Glodis the further down the food chain you go.
If you are a bed buddy of Glodis,str8tshot52 and the other flag waving
tin holders you can expect the replies.
If you got your job legit fine if not then I guess you fall right in line with
them.
I live in Bristol county and have knocked the sheriff in this county for
many of the same things Glodis does but he does seem to find the money
to build more housing,and I agree with him starting the chain gangs,and
charging the inmates for their confinement.
I have also stated many times on MassCops that people could take a lesson from his grant writers to obtain funding.
But the WCS department is a joke that everyone enjoys laughing about, none
of us are laughing at the CO's that do their job,just the flag waving, tin holding
idiots that keep posting here.


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwflatbed
Otto i have nothing against you but the more you post defending Glodis the further down the food chain you go.
If you are a bed buddy of Glodis,str8tshot52 and the other flag waving
tin holders you can expect the replies.
If you got your job legit fine if not then I guess you fall right in line with
them.
I live in Bristol county and have knocked the sheriff in this county for
many of the same things Glodis does but he does seem to find the money
to build more housing,and I agree with him starting the chain gangs,and
charging the inmates for their confinement.
I have also stated many times on MassCops that people could take a lesson from his grant writers to obtain funding.
But the WCS department is a joke that everyone enjoys laughing about, none
of us are laughing at the CO's that do their job,just the flag waving, tin holding
idiots that keep posting here.

Keep in mind, the ONLY reason I started posting is because someone wrote a letter to the editor against the Sheriff's Department. So it's alright for you guys to lob grenades against the Department, but God forbid anyone defend the work we do. I'm nobody special....just another guy who happens to be proud of where he works. If I made unjustified, baseless criticism of your department, would you not come to its defense?

For those that don't like the Sheriff personally, I couldn't care less. He's done some very stupid things, outside the department, that I take issue with. But I work alongside a lot of guys who work very hard, do a good job, take pride in their work, and shouldn't be subjected to unwarranted criticism from guys who have NO idea what they're talking about.

You hate that the Sheriff's Department is political....well, to be honest, so do I. But it IS an elected position, no getting around that. I know people who have donated who've been promoted, and those who have never given a penny have been promoted. You're on the outside looking in, and the fact of the matter is that politics is everywhere, in every department, and no more or less at the Sheriff's Department.

You say we "pretend to be cops", or are frauds, yet you can't give any examples. You say we should be more focused on the jail, yet when I explain, in great detail, how overcrowding occurs and the obstacles facing the Department, you turn a deaf ear and refuse to listen. You somehow have all the answers, but still can't back up a single bit of it.

I've tried to be very civil and objective, listening carefully to negative things people have to say about the Department. Instead, I've been met with childish name-calling, vulgarities, sarcasm, etc. I'm not trying to piss anyone off...ALL I've done is answer the criticism thrown our way. Like I said, I have a tremendous amount of respect for local and state cops...those that do their job and go home at night. But somehow guys come on here and think they are immune from criticism....they can dish it but they REALLY can't take it.

Point being, we are NOT cops, and don't pretend to be. The Mobile Command Center is USED and RUN by local cops. The K-9 unit is USED by local cops and the US Postal Inspection Service. I still can't see what's so awful about a partnership that yields such positive results. So you don't like the Department because of the Sheriff...fine, I can live with that. But remember there ARE 650 hard working employees who stand behind the Department.


Posted by: lawdog671

**You'll say that we're &quot;on the streets&quot; or &quot;acting like cops&quot;, even though NOBODY here, including you, can give any examples. I've asked you to be specific, but you can't.
**You say we "pretend to be cops", or are frauds, yet you can't give any examples.
Then I would assume you missed KWFLATS specific incident of being pulled over HIMSELF..my reference to a WCSO Sgt stopping an MSP Sgt on 495...a WCSO K-9 with a car stop on Goldstar Blvd at the end of the off ramp from 190 north...
If I made unjustified, baseless criticism of your department, would you not come to its defense?
You have and we did, "MSP does not have public safety in mind?....troopers would rather whine.." than offer services ..remember offering to tell us all why we don the bullet resistant vests and put on the uniform daily?
You say we should be more focused on the jail, yet when I explain, in great detail, how overcrowding occurs and the obstacles facing the Department, you turn a deaf ear and refuse to listen.
We know how it happens....the original gist of this thread was that you should focus on alleviating this instead of looking for new pies to stick your fingers in.
You'll say that we're not &quot;focused enough&quot; on the job of running the jail, even though you probably know that's not true, and have NO idea what that entails. You draw conclusions, but don't know how you got to them.
STR*SHT.. Many of the guys on this site have worked inside jails, or currently do so. Don't insult our intelligence by saying we have no idea what we're talking about. WORK THE BLOCKS and you'll get a new appreciation for what your guys do daily inside for you with hardly enough equipment, so you can take care of your select few political favors outside. And if you are GG like everyone thinks you are, your time as a temp doesn't really count...lol

Oh and OTTO, you failed to me mention AGAIN what MPOC that you attended, shockingly. I know that FLYNN sent a bunch of his boys from special services to full time academies when I was there. However, I would steal a page from DELTAS book and agree that while you learn basics in the academy, you learn to be a cop from senior troopers and patrolmen during the FTO programs and beyond. So if you were one of the chosen few, you had a big dime you dropped, and still means that despite having a full time academy under your belt, you still have less road time that the lowest boot trooper or rookie cop on the road now. Not your fault, just the way it is. Which also leads me to ASSUME (correctly or incorrectly), that if you're outside, you dropped that same dime you have to get out there, because everyone else stays inside otherwise. Because whether it's in this forum or another where I observed you called out about your work experience, you fell silent or chose not to answer for various reasons.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
You say we "pretend to be cops", or are frauds, yet you can't give any examples. You say we should be more focused on the jail, yet when I explain, in great detail, how overcrowding occurs and the obstacles facing the Department, you turn a deaf ear and refuse to listen. You somehow have all the answers, but still can't back up a single bit of it.
I read both Boston dailies, as well as several websites that deal specifically with law enforcement news. I have yet to see one single news story where ANYONE from the WCSO has made any noise whatsoever about getting funding for more jail space. Not one.

As someone else said, it's probably like this;

Glodis: "Hey guys, what about funding for more jail cells?"

Legislature: "Well Guy, that's a lot of money"

Glodis: "Okay, never mind then! Now, where is that latest federal grant?"

When I first got out of the military, I worked a security job that was good as far as security jobs go (armed & special police powers), but it was still a security job. I didn't venture off our property, stop cars, or do anything else my job didn't call for. I bided my time, kept my nose clean, and was eventually hired by a police department. Several years after that, I was hired by my #1 choice.

I suggest you do the same. Police officers respect the job corrections officers do; know your role in the criminal justice system, and stick to it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
Take your Explorer,
It's an Expedition Sine, Explorers are for the bourgeoisie and other assorted rabble.

Plus, an Expedition probably wouldn't be able to hold Guy, his family, and assorted beach chairs, coolers, etc.;

http://www.capecodtoday.com/blogs/in...rking_fee_pran


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
I read both Boston dailies, as well as several websites that deal specifically with law enforcement news. I have yet to see one single news story where ANYONE from the WCSO has made any noise whatsoever about getting funding for more jail space. Not one.

As someone else said, it's probably like this;

Glodis: "Hey guys, what about funding for more jail cells?"

Legislature: "Well Guy, that's a lot of money"

Glodis: "Okay, never mind then! Now, where is that latest federal grant?"

So you honestly don't think the Sheriff's Office has requested, and pushed hard, for jail funds? Have you thought to check WORCESTER papers? Gotta use a little common sense here, pal....

__________________________________________________ __________

Glodis gears up for jail expansion; [ALL Edition]
Shaun Sutner. Telegram & Gazette. Worcester, Mass.: Jan 7, 2007. pg. A.13

Abstract (Summary)
[Sheriff Glodis] Guy W. Glodis is ramping up his campaign for a multimillion-dollar expansion of the Worcester County Jail and House of Correction to ease overcrowding that he and others say is making the West Boylston jail dangerously unstable and an inhumane place for both inmates and correction officers.

One Worcester lawmaker with close ties to House Speaker Salvatore F. DiMasi, state Rep. Robert P. Spellane, D-Worcester, said he backs the sheriff's request and will do what he can to advance it this year. However, Mr. Spellane, House vice chairman of the Committee on Financial Services, said the sheriff first needs to develop a fully fleshed-out financial proposal detailing his specific needs and what kind of facility he envisions being added to the jail complex.

Sheriff Glodis and Mr. Spellane said they expect support from the new Democratic administration of Gov. Deval L. Patrick and Mr. [Timothy P. Murray], though some liberal activists who backed Mr. Patrick's campaign oppose building new jails and prisons under the theory that more jail space will only be filled up with more inmates, who are usually poor and disproportionately minorities.

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Sheriff Guy W. Glodis is ramping up his campaign for a multimillion-dollar expansion of the Worcester County Jail and House of Correction to ease overcrowding that he and others say is making the West Boylston jail dangerously unstable and an inhumane place for both inmates and correction officers.

With a new legislative session under way and Worcester's own lieutenant governor, Timothy P. Murray, having taken a seat at the governor's table, Sheriff Glodis wants the county's legislative delegation to have as much as $100 million inserted in a capital bond bill this year to fund construction of new units for 500 of the most dangerous and suicide-prone prisoners.

"We are desperately looking for a limited jail expansion. We're bursting at the seams," the sheriff said. "This is about public safety. It's also about rehabilitating inmates. You can't do that when you're 185 percent over capacity."

The jail, which now houses about 1,450 prisoners and pre-trial detainees, was built in 1973 for 490. Its most recent additions, five modular units designed for a 7-year lifespan, were installed in 1991, adding 300 more beds.

While the sheriff has been complaining about the crowding since he took over the jail two years ago, a string of inmate suicides and deaths, an outbreak of a serious antibiotic-resistant virus and low staff morale have focused even more attention on the worsening conditions inside the sprawling complex, which sits on 100 acres with plenty of room to expand.

Sheriff Glodis' request to add 250 more cells landed with the Legislature's Joint Committee on Bonding, Capital Expenditures and State Assets last year, but never went anywhere, and lawmakers did not produce one of the large capital bond measures that it traditionally releases every two or three years.

This year, he said is counting on his former colleagues in the state Senate, in which he served for six years until being elected sheriff in 2004, as well as in the House, where spending vehicles originate, to bring his proposal forward again.

"I really need the focus, the attention and the advocacy of the Worcester County delegation before this situation becomes critical," Sheriff Glodis said.

Even though Central Massachusetts now has one of its own - Mr. Murray, who has been mayor of Worcester for six years - in a high place, it is unclear just how much political clout the region's lawmakers have these days.

A few area legislators serve as chairmen or vice chairmen of legislative committees, but none is in a position of upper leadership in either the House or Senate.

One Worcester lawmaker with close ties to House Speaker Salvatore F. DiMasi, state Rep. Robert P. Spellane, D-Worcester, said he backs the sheriff's request and will do what he can to advance it this year. However, Mr. Spellane, House vice chairman of the Committee on Financial Services, said the sheriff first needs to develop a fully fleshed-out financial proposal detailing his specific needs and what kind of facility he envisions being added to the jail complex.

"The sheriff is 100 percent right. This is a project that should have been done five or 10 years ago and certainly is needed," Mr. Spellane said. "It's a top priority for Worcester County. It just becomes a question of timing and getting it done."

Sheriff Glodis and Mr. Spellane said they expect support from the new Democratic administration of Gov. Deval L. Patrick and Mr. Murray, though some liberal activists who backed Mr. Patrick's campaign oppose building new jails and prisons under the theory that more jail space will only be filled up with more inmates, who are usually poor and disproportionately minorities.

James B. Leary, chief of staff for Mr. Murray, said the governor and lieutenant governor "will be reviewing all budget and bond authorization requests very closely."

"Obviously, we understand there are challenges with the facility and we're eager to review any documentation the sheriff wants to forward to us," Mr. Leary said.

Timothy J. Connolly, a spokesman for newly sworn-in Worcester District Attorney Joseph D. Early Jr., said Mr. Early, who recently toured the jail with the sheriff, also is sympathetic to the overcrowding problem.

"But he's also emphatic that we're not going to stop sending people to jail who need to go to jail," Mr. Connolly said.

The sheriff often points out all the tactics he's tried to reduce population pressure at the jail. They range from sharply boosting the number of prisoners on electronic ankle-bracelet monitored release and establishing a halfway house on the jail grounds to starting an in-house substance abuse treatment unit and even shipping pre-trial detainees back to state custody.

Prisoners' rights advocates have been impressed with some of these moves, but building more cells is not an idea that has found much favor in that community.

"Our feeling is you're never going to build your way out of an overcrowding problem," said James R. Pingeon, director of litigation for Massachusetts Correctional Legal Services, a prisoners' rights group. "The solution is sentencing reform."

Mr. Pingeon noted that other states, notably New York, have changed strict sentencing requirements, such as those used in Massachusetts, that mandate set jail times for even relatively minor drug-related crimes, with the goal of reducing the ranks of the incarcerated.

For example, one bill that has floated around Beacon Hill for about five years, sponsored by Sen. Cynthia S. Creem, D-Newton, would make more prisoners eligible for early parole, Mr. Pingeon noted.

Others who work with inmates at the Worcester County House of Correction, however, take what they say is a pragmatic view of the situation.

Russell S. Chernin, a lawyer and board member of the Worcester County chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union of Massachusetts, said that in the absence of sentencing reform that seems perennially to be years away, the only realistic solution is expanding the jail.

"I certainly support rehabilitation and educational programs and alternative-type sentencing," Mr. Chernin said. "But the reality is right now, today, we have more people up there than the jail is built to hold. That is a recipe for disaster."

Civil liberties activists appear to be divided on the issue, though.

Ronal C. Madnick, executive director of the Worcester ACLU chapter, opposed the idea of adding more prison cells in a letter he wrote last year to Mr. Patrick, then a candidate for governor.

"We do not believe in constructing new buildings to house prisoners," Mr. Madnick wrote. "The money would be better spent on alternatives to sentencing."

Those alternatives include probation, fines and restitution, house arrest, drug treatment and more halfway houses, Mr. Madnick wrote.

Contact Shaun Sutner by e-mail

at ssutner@telegram.com.


Guess that one slipped by you, huh? I'm also guessing the SIXTEEN other news stories about our efforts, including the Governor's refusal to fund prison expansion, must have somehow got by you. Is it really too much to ask for you to THINK before making stuff up?

Yep, the mobile command center was federal money (we never saw a penny...went straight to the vendor). Federal money that could not, under ANY circumstances, have gone to a local or state police department. You have any other examples of federal grants, or even state grants for that matter, that the Sheriff's Office has "stolen"? Or is that really your ONLY one?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawdog671
Then I would assume you missed KWFLATS specific incident of being pulled over HIMSELF..my reference to a WCSO Sgt stopping an MSP Sgt on 495...a WCSO K-9 with a car stop on Goldstar Blvd at the end of the off ramp from 190 north...

You have and we did, "MSP does not have public safety in mind?....troopers would rather whine.." than offer services ..remember offering to tell us all why we don the bullet resistant vests and put on the uniform daily?

We know how it happens....the original gist of this thread was that you should focus on alleviating this instead of looking for new pies to stick your fingers in.
If the few times a WCSO deputy has pulled someone over, it was not the result of any patrol. And your reference to the MSP stop on 495? I asked around: the gentleman in question was driving his private vehicle, 95 mph on a 55 mph road, weaving in and out of traffic, and the WCSO Sgt. first called local police. Guy should have been cited for driving to endanger. Let me guess, you think MSP are above the law and shouldn't be held to the same standard as private civilians?

Let me recap your criticism: you have fiercely argued AGAINST a K-9 US Postal Inspection Program that to date has taken more than 12 kilo's of coke, 30 lbs. of marijuana, and countless prescription drugs off the streets, and resulted in 20 arrests. You have fiercely argued AGAINST operation of a mobile command center that to date has been involved in more than 30 emergency call-up situations, and twice as many homeland security training exercises. Where would I get the crazy idea that public safety isn't your first priority?

You say you know how overcrowding happens, yet you think the Sheriff can somehow make 195% overcrowding simply disappear, or $50 million appear. Focus on alleviating overcrowding? We're doing it....every single day. As I've said before, no amount of manpower, K-9 units, or mobile command centers will reduce overcrowding.....but I won't insult your intelligence, you already know that.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
So you honestly don't think the Sheriff's Office has requested, and pushed hard, for jail funds? Have you thought to check WORCESTER papers? Gotta use a little common sense here, pal....
The state house, as well as the majority of Massachusetts residents, are in the Metro Boston area. If you want to create a stink (and you damn well should in regards to overcrowding) that people will notice, you do it in the Boston papers.

Gotta use a little common sense there, pal........


Posted by: resqjyw0

Str8shot, if there is any reply I am interested in at the moment from you, its the one for the statements Harry made below. I underlined the portions of particular interest. Or maybe that is why you didn't respond to it, you don't have any defense for his statements that is the least bit intelligent and rational. Those statements are what your reply made earlier to that post by Harry should have focused on, not giving another recap of your defense in this thread.

If the Bristol County Sheriff can do it, why can't Glodis? Are you afraid of admitting what we've been claiming all along? And try to come up with something other than the Governor said "no."

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwflatbed
I live in Bristol county and have knocked the sheriff in this county for
many of the same things Glodis does but he does seem to find the money
to build more housing,and I agree with him starting the chain gangs,and
charging the inmates for their confinement.
I have also stated many times on MassCops that people could take a lesson from his grant writers to obtain funding.
But the WCS department is a joke that everyone enjoys laughing about, none
of us are laughing at the CO's that do their job,just the flag waving, tin holding
idiots that keep posting here.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
If you want to create a stink (and you damn well should in regards to overcrowding) that people will notice, you do it in the Boston papers.

Gotta use a little common sense there, pal........
Exactly. If the Boston papers aren't picking up on it, then obviously you're not putting in enough effort to get your point across to the people that matter. Like I said, half-assed attempt to get it out of the way with an "at least I tried" and get back to more "important" matters like trying to be a police department.

Please str8shot, not another one of those "if you're just joining us" speeches.


Posted by: Vader

[quote=str8tshot52] So it's alright for you guys to lob grenades against the Department, but God forbid anyone defend the work we do.

Who is "we"? What is your job title? C.O.??? Deputy???

But I work alongside a lot of guys who work very hard, do a good job, take pride in their work, and shouldn't be subjected to unwarranted criticism from guys who have NO idea what they're talking about.

We all know there are a lot of guys/girls that work there that do a great job. They are called Corrections Officers. And I have yet to see anyone bashing them despite your claims of unwarranted criticism. And the "guys that have NO idea what they're talking about."...are probably police officers that actually go out and perform all functions of policing...not just the ones that get you on the cover of a Gall's magazine.

and the fact of the matter is that politics is everywhere, in every department, and no more or less at the Sheriff's Department.

You couldn't be anymore incorrect. Keep in mind that a good percentage of us HAVE worked corrections in one way, shape or another. I'd say that 95%, or more, of the people hired by the almighty Sheriff had to call in a marker with someone to get that slot...everyone I know that is employed (past and present) had to. I'm sure you did as well. Is that more or less political than a PD that you have to take a test for and wait and wait and wait to get on to, only if you make the top 5-10%. You openly admit people get promoted when they give "contributions/donations"...how freakin corrupt is that? "Yea, I'll promote you, but first you have to line my pockets!!!" This is the type of guy (Guy) you are defending??? I will agree that some form of politicing is everywhere...but "no more or less at the Sheriff's Department" is an absolute falsehood.


Point being, we are NOT cops, and don't pretend to be. The Mobile Command Center is USED and RUN by local cops.

That wasn't a local cop I saw driving it when it pulled up onto a scene, not requested by the way, nor was it a local cop I saw driving it in the last 6 parades I've seen it at.

Like I said, a lot of us have been there before...so don't take a leak on my foot and tell me it's raining. We've seen the "all glory, no guts" attitude that a small percentage of you department is portraying...and THOSE are the ones I think everyone are speaking to.


Posted by: j809

24 pages and going.


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by resqjyw0
Str8shot, if there is any reply I am interested in at the moment from you, its the one for the statements Harry made below. I underlined the portions of particular interest. Or maybe that is why you didn't respond to it, you don't have any defense for his statements that is the least bit intelligent and rational. Those statements are what your reply made earlier to that post by Harry should have focused on, not giving another recap of your defense in this thread.

If the Bristol County Sheriff can do it, why can't Glodis? Are you afraid of admitting what we've been claiming all along? And try to come up with something other than the Governor said "no."

Exactly. If the Boston papers aren't picking up on it, then obviously you're not putting in enough effort to get your point across to the people that matter. Like I said, half-assed attempt to get it out of the way with an "at least I tried" and get back to more "important" matters like trying to be a police department.

Please str8shot, not another one of those "if you're just joining us" speeches.

Though I'm not exactly on the front lines of getting new funding, I would be happy to answer that for you. Prisons are largely paid for using bond bill funding (the state doesn't exactly write checks for $50 million). The only way that happens is when the Legislature, and the Governor, authorize a prison bond bill. The last one, if I remember, was four or five years ago. I didn't know Bristol was planning anything new (last I heard, their last renovation was 10 years ago). The counties that are NOT dissolved might use their county government to get a bond authorized....not sure about that. Either way, Worcester County is a state agency, and therefore relies solely upon the Legislature to authorize bond bill money. In this year's bond bill, the Governor did two things: reduced prison expansion money by 50% for the next two years, and second, froze any new prison expansion projects until a $500,000 study can be completed, which should take at least a year.

So now it's the Sheriff's fault that he's not getting enough Boston press, EVEN THOUGH they rarely, if ever, cover central and western massachusetts news. Let's be clear about something: legislators authorize money, the governor authorizes money, the executive office of administration and finance authorizes money....newspapers do not. Do you honestly think a resident of Lowell is going to call their legislator and advocate for new prison spending in West Boylston, based on a story they saw in the Lowell Sun? And you're calling ME insane??

The Worcester County newspapers have been VERY clear about their support for jail expansion. The Sheriff, as far as I know, has met with every chairman of every committee, the Lt. Governor, and the Secretary of Administration and Finance to plead his case. But when the Governor declared a reduction in prison spending, it wasn't a joke, it wasn't a maybe....it was very, very real. And yet you still blame the Sheriff for not trying hard enough. Does it ever occur to you, even for a moment, that there are forces well beyond the Department's control that determine our fate? SinePari thinks we don't have any oversight....nothing could be further from the truth.

What next...you're going to suggest the Sheriff storm the State House and take hostages, demanding $50 million....THEN he'll have tried hard enough?

Overcrowding compromises officer safety and inmate safety, and makes our jobs much harder. It's gotten so bad that a federal judge has ordered the premature release of inmates because we're too overcrowded. And you still think relieving overcrowding is a secondary priority? Relieving overcrowding is the ONLY priority. Come on by, take a tour, stay for the day....and THEN tell me how taking K-9 units out of post offices and the mobile command center away from local chiefs has ANYTHING to do with relieving overcrowding.

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Originally Posted by Vader
That wasn't a local cop I saw driving it when it pulled up onto a scene, not requested by the way, nor was it a local cop I saw driving it in the last 6 parades I've seen it at.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, our guy is responsible for driving it on scene, and setting up the communications once there. He is, in fact, the ONLY one qualified to operate the interoperability equipment on board. That's where his job ends. If the worst complaint you have is simply that a local cop should be the driver instead of a Sgt. with the WCSO, then there's nothing I can say to that. It's ludicrous, but if the driver's uniform color gets you all riled up, I can't imagine the stress you must face every day.

The mobile command center has NEVER been driven in a parade. It has gone to public events, at the request of the local police department, and sometimes in conjunction with the Molly Bish Foundation.....but not once has it been driven in a parade. In fact, the Sheriff's Department has a clear policy against participation in ANY parades (except Veterans Day). If you're going to outright lie, at least do it about something that's not so easy to refute.


Posted by: j809

Dude you bore me, i don't even read your long stupid posts.


Posted by: resqjyw0

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Originally Posted by str8shot52
you're going to suggest the Sheriff storm the State House and take hostages, demanding $50 million....THEN he'll have tried hard enough?
Well only if showing his badge and demanding $50 mil doesn't work.

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
Dude you bore me, i don't even read your long stupid posts.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
What next...you're going to suggest the Sheriff storm the State House and take hostages, demanding $50 million....THEN he'll have tried hard enough?
How about inviting an investigative reporter from a major Boston station into the jail so the people can see the overcrowding problem for themselves?

Oh wait....that doesn't look as good as the mobile command center in a parade.


Posted by: exscrew

Str8hack.
You said you have 650 hard working people? Please dont include you hacked up political losers when talking about hard working CO's. When refering to hard working people in your dept. Only those in uniform should be included. you pencil pushing ass kissing little mary's just don't count.
The command center is useless, all your k9's are a waste and should be taken out of the jails and given to those dept. that you claim to provide so much help to. Why in gods name should a local PD have to call you hacked up freaks to search for someone or something when they could have a k9 on call of there own 24-7. Nothing you have said makes any sense to anyone on this site. Why? because they are all in the trenches doing the job that hacks like you and your girl Glodis are just to scared to do.
Ok so you want everyone to look at County Sheriff's dept. as law enforcement. Ok great I agree. Now STOP letting them be run by politicians with little or no LAW ENFORCEMENT background and give the job to someone who understands what is like to have been assaulted on the job, had to respond to scenes of incredible violence, respond to guys hanging it up, cutting up, stabbings, rapes, etc. etc. Glodis and almost every county sheriff in this state who have no Law enforcement background are the real problem. when we stop electing them things will change for the better. unfortunately for hacks like you, your going to have see if they will give you that campus security job back. but even those guys have integrity so I doubt that would even work out for you.


Posted by: Otto

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Originally Posted by lawdog671

Oh and OTTO, you failed to me mention AGAIN what MPOC that you attended, shockingly. I know that FLYNN sent a bunch of his boys from special services to full time academies when I was there. However, I would steal a page from DELTAS book and agree that while you learn basics in the academy, you learn to be a cop from senior troopers and patrolmen during the FTO programs and beyond. So if you were one of the chosen few, you had a big dime you dropped, and still means that despite having a full time academy under your belt, you still have less road time that the lowest boot trooper or rookie cop on the road now. Not your fault, just the way it is. Which also leads me to ASSUME (correctly or incorrectly), that if you're outside, you dropped that same dime you have to get out there, because everyone else stays inside otherwise. Because whether it's in this forum or another where I observed you called out about your work experience, you fell silent or chose not to answer for various reasons.
So you admit that you know that Sheriff Flynn sent people to full- time police academies. Why then did you claim earlier that you had more training than all of those deputies combined, even though all you had was the reserve/ intermittent?

I was also a part -time patrolman for a local police department, as were several others. I worked shifts in a cruiser and answered all the calls that the full - time guys did.


Posted by: SinePari

Str8-jacket, your first several posts were very condescending, grenade-throwing flames towards the MSP when you first got here, even though everyone was playing nice. Now we're the name calling, childish ones. What did you expect us to do? If you walked a block during your day, you might hear some four-letter words thrown around...I dunno, I'm just sayin.

You want to play with the big boys? Well, here they are. We've asked you basically the same questions over and over again, to which you gave very detailed responses and led everyone to believe, either correctly or not, that you were some sort of office-holder up there. But now you say you're a nobody and tap-dancing backwards. Man up, take a position and stick to it.

Now, from a taxpayer's point of view, again, my point is that the WCSO has their priorities screwed up. Partly GG's fault, partly Flynn's fault. Dozens of new cruisers means less money from the state for a new expansion. Bloated budgets with campaign advisors means less money from the state for a new expansion. Duplicitous services already available from the MSP means less money from the state for a new expansion. You get it now?

The MSP has had to defend itself from the barrage of bad press regarding details, cruiser crashes, payroll, and everything else under the sun, so don't think you're immune to public scrutiny. If you get called out, you better put up and take the heat. You're just taking it on the chin on a website, from strangers who may or not be cops, but it's just a website man! Wait until the I-Team, or Joe Bergandouche, or any other reporter grabs a hold of the budget-blasting, no-accountability having, fiefdom known as the Sheriff's Office gets front page on the Herald! Stand by! But, it probably won't happen because the media is Guy-friendly, just like daddy wanted it...

Yes, there was a time in history not too long ago when the MSP were the anti-christs of this state, and nobody wanted to play together. Times have changed and egos have subsided, to make sure that the agency remains an integral part LE in this state and all of NE with all the toys, units, patrols to support locals, and federal funding as well. So, last question. What reason would you give for the state to NOT dissolve the SOs and merge under the DOC? Besides losing your job...

And several of your co-workers here, if you actually "work" there, have PM'd me regarding this thread. There are some juicy tidbits I could share but I respect their privacy, hence the PMs. I'm not the spokesperson for the MSP, MassCops, or anybody but myself. Just a concerned taxpayer looking for accountability from our "elected" officials.


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
How about inviting an investigative reporter from a major Boston station into the jail so the people can see the overcrowding problem for themselves?

Oh wait....that doesn't look as good as the mobile command center in a parade.
Been there, done that. Channel 4, Fox 25....been on both, two times each, specifically about overcrowding. Again, you can have 100 news stories, but that doesn't equal state funding.

Again, the mobile command center has never appeared in a parade. The ONLY time the Sheriff's Department even participates in any parades is Veterans Day. You can keep making stuff up all you want, but the fact of the matter is the mobile command center is a very effective, very active resource.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

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Been there, done that. Channel 4, Fox 25....been on both, two times each, specifically about overcrowding.
So Str8-jacket, is that you Glodis?


Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
So Str8-jacket, is that you Glodis?

Now do you realy think that he would admit to it.


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
Str8-jacket, your first several posts were very condescending, grenade-throwing flames towards the MSP when you first got here, even though everyone was playing nice. Now we're the name calling, childish ones. What did you expect us to do? If you walked a block during your day, you might hear some four-letter words thrown around...I dunno, I'm just sayin.
You're right....I let my emotions get the better of me sometimes, which I know YOU and everyone else here knows something about, but there is still no defense for being insulting.

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Originally Posted by SinePari
You want to play with the big boys? Well, here they are. We've asked you basically the same questions over and over again, to which you gave very detailed responses and led everyone to believe, either correctly or not, that you were some sort of office-holder up there. But now you say you're a nobody and tap-dancing backwards. Man up, take a position and stick to it.
I haven't led anyone to believe anything about who I am. The way I look at it, who I am is completely irrelevant...I've read enough posts that as soon as someone explains who they are, they are ripped to shreds for having the wrong name, rank, position...whatever. Enough guys on here do resume bragging...I don't need to be one of them.

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Originally Posted by SinePari
Now, from a taxpayer's point of view, again, my point is that the WCSO has their priorities screwed up. Partly GG's fault, partly Flynn's fault. Dozens of new cruisers means less money from the state for a new expansion. Bloated budgets with campaign advisors means less money from the state for a new expansion. Duplicitous services already available from the MSP means less money from the state for a new expansion. You get it now?
Dozens of cruisers....due to inmate transport (remember the mileage confusion?), and increase in community service program (I'm sure SOMEONE will argue against putting inmates to work in the community). The fact is, our vehicles put a LOT of miles on, and the mileage builds up, quickly. Cost of maintenance oftentimes outweighs cost of replacement.

Campaign advisors? Where'd you come up with that one? There's no such thing as a no-show job here. Every single position is paid for, and approved by, the state Comptroller's Office. Remember that oversight you wanted? It's alive and well.

Duplicitous services....K-9 unit? Not at all...in fact, they are in very short supply. Mobile Command Center? If the Department of Homeland Security, EOPS, and the Governor's Office thought it was duplicitous, it wouldn't be here. Every single Chief of Police in Worcester County didn't think it was duplicitous.

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Originally Posted by SinePari
The MSP has had to defend itself from the barrage of bad press regarding details, cruiser crashes, payroll, and everything else under the sun, so don't think you're immune to public scrutiny. If you get called out, you better put up and take the heat. You're just taking it on the chin on a website, from strangers who may or not be cops, but it's just a website man! Wait until the I-Team, or Joe Bergandouche, or any other reporter grabs a hold of the budget-blasting, no-accountability having, fiefdom known as the Sheriff's Office gets front page on the Herald! Stand by! But, it probably won't happen because the media is Guy-friendly, just like daddy wanted it...
I have absolutely no problem with criticism...again, you want oversight? Try every voter in Worcester County. They can be the toughest critics of all. Interesting story for you: Joe Bergantino DID try to do a story on wasteful state spending....he came by, asked questions, looked over our information....and came up with nothing. Budget blasting? The Sheriff's Office didn't receive even enough money in the state budget this year to cover collective bargaining agreements.


Quote:
Originally Posted by SinePari
Yes, there was a time in history not too long ago when the MSP were the anti-christs of this state, and nobody wanted to play together. Times have changed and egos have subsided, to make sure that the agency remains an integral part LE in this state and all of NE with all the toys, units, patrols to support locals, and federal funding as well. So, last question. What reason would you give for the state to NOT dissolve the SOs and merge under the DOC? Besides losing your job...
Yes, the MSP ARE an integral part of LE in Massachusetts and New England. The fact of the matter, however, is that it's the MSP that goes on the ATTACK when any other agency does something, even if it's positive!

To answer the last part, if DOC wanted to absorb the Sheriffs, they probably would have when the seven counties were dissolved. While they would have to change the entire structure of the MA judicial system (the role and responsibilities of Sheriffs, in accepting both sentenced AND pre-trial inmates) is well-codified in state law, I guess it could be done. You'd also have to change the MA state constitution, a five year process at best (and delete Sheriffs as elected officials)...and state facilities cannot accept pre-trial detainees, under any circumstances, so that would have to be entirely changed as well. And THEN you'd have to have DOC absorb all county sheriffs at the same time, so that all DOC facilities would accept pre-trial (can't exactly change state law, and then change it county to county). You'd still have the problem of the non-dissolved counties, and exempting THEM from any state law changes you made regarding DOC...unless you want them absorbed as well. In which case, you'd have to entirely change the county government structure as well. I'm only guessing, but I'm pretty sure I'm not far off.....

Long and boring, I know...but I did try to answer your question.

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Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
So Str8-jacket, is that you Glodis?
No, I'm STILL not the Sheriff. I watch the news. Word spreads very quickly around the jail when we're in the news.


Posted by: kwflatbed

"To answer the last part, if DOC wanted to absorb the Sheriffs, they probably would have when the seven counties were dissolved. While they would have to change the entire structure of the MA judicial system (the role and responsibilities of Sheriffs, in accepting both sentenced AND pre-trial inmates) is well-codified in state law, I guess it could be done. "

Why because the current system does not work,you admitted this yourself.
Idiot sheriffs,Idiot judges,idiot politicans all in bed together does not fix
the system it only makes it worse.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
Been there, done that. Channel 4, Fox 25....been on both, two times each, specifically about overcrowding. Again, you can have 100 news stories, but that doesn't equal state funding.
I call bullshit....dates and times, please.

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
Again, the mobile command center has never appeared in a parade.
Then it's even more useless than I thought.


Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
So Str8-jacket, is that you Glodis?
He can't be Glodis, he's to articulate.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop
He can't be Glodis, he's to articulate.
Maybe it's his secretary Otto.


Posted by: mpd61

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
Again, the mobile command center has never appeared in a parade. The ONLY time the Sheriff's Department even participates in any parades is Veterans Day. You can keep making stuff up all you want, but the fact of the matter is the mobile command center is a very effective, very active resource.
Oh Good, Finally a statement that you can easily quantify;

1. Very effective at what? Specify what it has done. PLEASE?!?!?!
2. How often is it very active? Daily, Weekly, Monthly, yearly?

Remember, You are presenting this as fact. Now provide the evidence of it in actual use vs. Potential


Posted by: str8tshot52

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpd61
Oh Good, Finally a statement that you can easily quantify;

1. Very effective at what? Specify what it has done. PLEASE?!?!?!
2. How often is it very active? Daily, Weekly, Monthly, yearly?

Remember, You are presenting this as fact. Now provide the evidence of it in actual use vs. Potential
1. The primary function of the mobile command center is interoperability. As I'm sure you know, the ability of local police and fire to communicate on-scene is the most important priority. And, as you know, most local police and fire departments operate on different frequencies, across a large spectrum of frequency ranges. Remember the Worcester Cold Storage Fire? The inability of multiple departments to communicate led to the deaths of six Worcester firefighters. Using state of the art cross-patch communications technology, the purpose of the mobile command center is to bring together multiple forms of communication, whether cell phone, radio, landline, etc. and organize them into pre-designated frequencies. That way, the commander on-scene can issue orders instantly, to all agencies simultaneously. The command center also has satellite phones on board, as well as high speed wireless internet and flat panel touch-screen monitors...both of which are critical in tactical response situations. It also has a low-band video link with the state police helicopter, so that tactial response can be done with the benefit of aerial video. I forgot something else: in the event of a power outage or natural emergency, the mobile command center can serve as a local police or fire department's dispatch center. I know it does a lot more than I know about...but that's a start.

2. To my knowledge, the mobile command center has been called out on an emergency basis, whether through CEMLEC, local Police Chiefs, or local Fire Chiefs, more than 30 times. Equally as important, it has been involved in twice as many homeland security, and local police, training exercises. To be specific, the command center has been called out by the Milford, Sturbridge, Spencer, Webster, Millbury, Shrewsbury, Dudley, Mendon, Leicester, and Auburn Police Departments, as well as CEMLEC, though those are only the ones I know about. Incidents include missing person search and rescue, fugitive search, public health emergency, hostage situation, and multiple-alarm fires.

Again, I'm sorry for the length of the response, but I hope this answers your question.


Posted by: lawdog671

Im thinkin it's his #2.....Turco.....knows too much to be regular line guy because the working guys don't have time for TV interviews...lol

Oh and OTTO...the more you write the more I think I know who you are...
I recall a fan favorite Lt. in Special Services that was writing CO's parking gigs in the main jail who had the audacity to park in the Sherriff sallyport ..you know the one that was largely unused on the Mid shifts.?? Yeah...he was a part timer in like Paxton or Barre area...and almost got lynched by some of the very large midnight guys in the main jail for that...ring a bell??
Training does not end when you graduate an academy as I stated before...and that practice of full time academies ended rather suddenly....MCJTC catch onto the fraud or someone else ruin it??


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Otto got busted. Now we have to find out from whom he steals CH90 books from, come one now, just say where you get them from.


Posted by: lawdog671

The inability of multiple departments to communicate led to the deaths of six Worcester firefighters.

NOT TRUE!!!!! Those firefighters in Worcester were dead before other agencies got there, it had nothing to do with lack of communication between agencies because that was ALL WORCESTER FIRE! They died because they could not locate them once they were inside and had no means to find them, hence the Leary Foundation fundraisers for thermal imagers...come on...


Posted by: kwflatbed

They keep digging themselves in deeper and deeper.


Posted by: Otto

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawdog671
Oh and OTTO...the more you write the more I think I know who you are...I recall a fan favorite Lt. in Special Services that was writing CO's parking gigs in the main jail who had the audacity to park in the Sherriff sallyport ..you know the one that was largely unused on the Mid shifts.?? Yeah...he was a part timer in like Paxton or Barre area...and almost got lynched by some of the very large midnight guys in the main jail for that...ring a bell??
Training does not end when you graduate an academy as I stated before...and that practice of full time academies ended rather suddenly....MCJTC catch onto the fraud or someone else ruin it??
It doesn't ring any bells. We do not, and have never had parking tickets. I have no idea what you are talking about. I guess that makes us even.

Are you going to tell us why you lied in your earlier post about your training?

Is anyone else going to call him on it? It was all in his own words...

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Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
Otto got busted. Now we have to find out from whom he steals CH90 books from, come one now, just say where you get them from.
Otto isn't busted. Lawdog is. Of course it won't matter, due to the odvious double standards around here.


Posted by: 94c

Hey Slapstick52, know any whackers from Bristol County that can start another thread?

I'm feeling left out.

I could cut and paste all this stuff over onto that thread and not miss a beat.


Posted by: kwflatbed

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
Hey Slapstick52, know any whackers from Bristol County that can start another thread?

I'm feeling left out.

I could cut and paste all this stuff over onto that thread and not miss a beat.
LOL I think you and I know the same ones in Bristol, home turf.
We probaly could start something with an e-mail to BCSD.


Posted by: exscrew

Quote:
Originally Posted by str8tshot52
1. The primary function of the mobile command center is interoperability. As I'm sure you know, the ability of local police and fire to communicate on-scene is the most important priority. And, as you know, most local police and fire departments operate on different frequencies, across a large spectrum of frequency ranges. Remember the Worcester Cold Storage Fire? The inability of multiple departments to communicate led to the deaths of six Worcester firefighters. Using state of the art cross-patch communications technology, the purpose of the mobile command center is to bring together multiple forms of communication, whether cell phone, radio, landline, etc. and organize them into pre-designated frequencies. That way, the commander on-scene can issue orders instantly, to all agencies simultaneously. The command center also has satellite phones on board, as well as high speed wireless internet and flat panel touch-screen monitors...both of which are critical in tactical response situations. It also has a low-band video link with the state police helicopter, so that tactial response can be done with the benefit of aerial video. I forgot something else: in the event of a power outage or natural emergency, the mobile command center can serve as a local police or fire department's dispatch center. I know it does a lot more than I know about...but that's a start.

2. To my knowledge, the mobile command center has been called out on an emerge