| Originally Posted by Mitpo62 I recall the earlier, harrowing days at the 'Tute when you were ordered in around the clock, day off or not. Worse was coming off a mid, heading out the door, when the Lt. would say, "you're ordered to stay." "WHAT!" It sucked, but thankfully that is all in the past. |
| Originally Posted by Sgt Jack Well for us..when your home you wind up screening your calls...so if they call you..you never pick up the phone....They generally get you when your already working or tell you a few days ahead of time....Most of us don't mind working the next shift or comming in early..its just days off the has been one of several issues for folks to seek greener pastures....I have talked to several people at other agencies to include my other part time pd job...they all look at me like I have six heads when I tell them.... |
| Originally Posted by new guy In a perfect world it would be SOP to hold someone over who is already working rather than force someone in on a day off. However, if most of you guys don't mind holding over or coming in early than couldn't you work it out among yourselves and volunteer for the double whenever someone is looking to get forced on a day off ? |
| Originally Posted by cj3441 It would just turn into a sick call bonanza, i.e. every time someone got forced they would go home after their 16 hour shift and call out sick for their next shift |
| Originally Posted by tomfin according to the AFSCME contract they must pay you standby pay if they are going to call you into work on your days off or off times check your contract. File a grievance to get the back pay that they owe you for having you on standby and not paying the bill |
| Originally Posted by fscpd907 .............and AFSCME will do absolutely nothing about it because they SUCK!!!!!!!!!! |
It's up to the Officers who file the Greivance to stay on the ball and not let the union drop it If your union rep doesn't move on it call Roger @ AFSCME direct he is a good guy and will get the job done.
| Originally Posted by Irish Wampanoag At MCC depending on what shift your work you can only get forced to work the next shift only. |
| Originally Posted by csauce777 And what if you were on days off and "embibing of the grape." |
| Originally Posted by Loyal Obviously all the campus jobs are similar, but have differences. I heard that in some of the tiny towns in the western part of the state, the local police close shop at a certain hour and the State Police or officers in nearby towns cover their calls - someone has to respond to emergencies.. Are there any campus police departments that close shop if they can't fill ot and refer people to the local police ? Municipal police and/or State Police might not be thrilled, but someone has to respond to emergencies..I suspect that tasks like checking buildings and shuttles could be handled by other campus employees... If that did happen, how would the campus officers respond ? Happy that they are not forced ,or irate that others are doing their job ? What, if anything, could/would your union do ? |
| Originally Posted by bluenote You are missing what Sgt Jack was saying. These are schedule overtime shifts for vacant and academy coverage, from 9 to 15 8 hour shifts a week. You can only work some much overtime, some people do have lifes. If your regular day off is Friday and Saturday you may be told three days ahead that you would be working a 3-11 shift on Friday. Short question is how do you make plans on your day off when you are getting force on it? |
| Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne Too bad, this is a police department, we don't work a 9-5 schedule M-F. Seek another career. |
| Originally Posted by Sgt Jack Perhaps a little clarification session is in order, first off both growing up in a police family that stretches back to just before the prohibition era and working for two pd’s right now I am fully aware that this is not a 9-5 job ….I’ve never wanted one of those, further more those that do know me are aware that I’ve done my fair share of crazy hours hauling around two sets of uniforms and duty gear etc… I’m not some generation y new jack crying with false expectations ….anyway I digress… What is at issue here that we have a problem with the way forced overtime and days off are being handled…we’re not taking the occasional bang out or short shift either, we’re talking something that has degraded over the course of more than a year….so I’ll paint a picture. Officer Blue Note works a 60 – 80 hour week picking up extra shifts, he or she is then told that they have to come in on their night off to work second shift despite that fact that Sgt Jack is already in working the day shift and could easily be ordered to stay.. allowing Blue Note to have their night off and then it eventually be reversed i.e. Blue Note would stay working and Sgt Jack would be off..this goes on week after week..month… after month.. While no one likes getting held over at least we would have our days off…Not sure why this a hard concept to grasp but both the union and management choose to ignore it….despite having it brought up numerous times by various people…and when I tell officers from other places this they look at me like I have six heads or something…I even had a Capitan from another agency shake his head in disbelief …So when I started this thread in November I was curious to see who else was in the same boat….and just like I suspected we are the exception…I am right now cautiously optimistic that with some new hires and folks back from the academy things will settle down a bit…..Take care |
| Originally Posted by Loyal do any colleges have per diem officers ? Some small municipal departments have "Permanent Intermittent " officers who can be used when a shift cannot be filled by full time officers without forcing. |
| Originally Posted by Irish Wampanoag At MCC depending on what shift your work you can only get forced to work the next shift only. They can not force you from home or your days off. |
| Originally Posted by Irish Wampanoag via contract |
| Originally Posted by 94c For those times that Admin cries that there is no money for a pay raise, it is then that you fight for language. In the long run it can be just as important. |
| Originally Posted by Irish Wampanoag Sgt Jack, like I have earlier stated above, an officer can only get forced when he / she is working their regular shift onto the next shift. Eg regular shift 3-11 forced 11-7 . |
| Originally Posted by Sgt Jack;252873Irish..we have had this go round with the union and they don't care.....[B we've even had Roger B here at one time and he did nothing about it....[/b]when we are forced for our days off..it happens when we come to work a few days before...so I'm not sure how the standby pay would work... |
| Originally Posted by dsm290  Didn't somebody try to assassinate her with a speed trailer? |
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