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Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

The same page where you click to see you standings (which is number 1 on the list, then 2 is something else, 3 is Issued certifications 4 is info update and 5 is to change towns) Click number 3 and if a twon called for a list which would be a certification list and they reached your name you would be listed. However if you go there now it may be in red print that you are not on nay certification list at this time, meaning no town you put down called for alist and/or have not reached yoru name yet.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
yeah how do people know if they reached their name or not without receiving a card?
The city/town is planning or not planning to hire.

They call for a list which can contain say 100 names.

Now they want to hire 20 people.

They have to send out 2n+1 cards or 41 people get cards to report to the PD to see if they are willing to accept.

During this initial stage, many people decide they don't want to move into the city, have some baggage that gets them immediately dumped, decline the job etc.

Before you know it more cards are going out and you're pissing through a lot of names just to get 20 candidates.

This is even before you get to the thorough background checks which sometimes reveal even more about the quality of the candidate.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

that makes sense
thanks



Posted by: ride1620

Do you think it is going to be the 2n+1 system..or with this new band thing is it going to be a new system on how they take people from the list...



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by ride1620
Do you think it is going to be the 2n+1 system..or with this new band thing is it going to be a new system on how they take people from the list...
That's a good question. My guess is that with banding all the scores at "9" are considered a tie.

They can pick anyone they want since a tie-breaker is not considered a bypass.

I could be wrong but I can see a lower "9" getting hired over a higher "9" and since they are tied their is no appeal.

Why else would they create this stupid banding thing instead of staying with the raw score?

(Civil Service has already ruled that breaking a tie is not a bypass.)



Posted by: okie317

and you say I have been reading too much into this whole process...



Quote:
Originally Posted by PBiddy35
Some Numbers I crunched for Boston Test-Takers (Wish there had been a math portion.)

Boston Residents on the list: 2,040
Boston applicants: 5,502
534/402A: 4
DVETS- RES: 21
VETS- RES: 84
BAND 10- RES: 140
BAND 9- RES: 443
BAND 8- RES: 829

Stopped counting after that.




Posted by: rm91304

the list came out so go check it out



Posted by: SargeLorenzo

I was looking at the lists. Does anyone here know what some of the status codes mean? CTO, 402A, 402B?



Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by SargeLorenzo
I was looking at the lists. Does anyone here know what some of the status codes mean? CTO, 402A, 402B?
theres a code guide somewhere on there, according to that the CTO is a court order putting some people at the top of a list. I know Cambridge has some of them, as for 402A 402B, i believe it it has something to do with a person losing a parent in the line of duty.



Posted by: RCS

How do you get to a "9" is the bigger question. Do you have to bypass every single "10" to get to the next band? Or, could you take one from the 10 band, since all 10s are tied and then move on to the 9 band?



Posted by: Rocco39

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
How do you get to a "9" is the bigger question. Do you have to bypass every single "10" to get to the next band? Or, could you take one from the 10 band, since all 10s are tied and then move on to the 9 band?
As I understand it, they've got to get past the 10s to get to the 9's and past the 9's to get to the 8's etc... BUT, a 9, 8, 7, etc D vet or Vet will get called before any 10, 9s or 8s that are non vets.

As an aside, I've heard it said on this site by others and have also heard it first hand from several LEO's as well, that the City/Towns tend to burn through the lists during the hiring process often b/c of the quality of the candidates.



Posted by: davejoyce2000

I have a score band 8 on the exam. Does the rank also include people in my score band 8 with their last names alphabetically ahead of me? Does the number under total ties indicate the total amount of people that also scored a band 8?

My results are listed below. What are my chances of getting a card from HR?


BOSTON (PRA)
CIVILIAN RESIDENT rank: 711 ties: 836

CAMBRIDGE (PR)
CIVILIAN NON RESIDENT rank: 668 ties: 542

LOWELL (PR)
CIVILIAN NON RESIDENT rank: 392 ties: 149

SPRINGFIELD (PR)
CIVILIAN NON RESIDENT rank: 255 ties: 72




Posted by: Oscar8

check out this forum
http://www.masscops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39299



Posted by: TopCop24

Here are your chances....slim to none...i was 5th in my town after the 2003 test then 8th after the 2005 test, no call here



Posted by: Matt23

Quote:
Originally Posted by SargeLorenzo
I was looking at the lists. Does anyone here know what some of the status codes mean? CTO, 402A, 402B?
When youre at the view rankings section, above that box will be the word 'definitions' if you click on that it will give you an indepth breakdown of everything.



Posted by: robodope

The world needs ditch diggers too



Posted by: RCS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocco39
As I understand it, they've got to get past the 10s to get to the 9's and past the 9's to get to the 8's etc... BUT, a 9, 8, 7, etc D vet or Vet will get called before any 10, 9s or 8s that are non vets.

As an aside, I've heard it said on this site by others and have also heard it first hand from several LEO's as well, that the City/Towns tend to burn through the lists during the hiring process often b/c of the quality of the candidates.

I would agree that the lists tend to get burned through relatively easily, but my question specifically is this: a city moves throught the list and gets down to the civilian "10" band. There are 150 "10s", do all 150 "10s" need to fill out an application, and have a background done, before they move on to the next band?



Posted by: Delta784

Change one of your non-residents to the transit police, the others to very small towns either north, south, or west of Boston.



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Delta, I was wondering about the Transit police and how they base non-veteran scores as I would think everyone is either a resident of the state or not, I have no clue. If someone were to get on the Transit, put in time, are they still under the law able to lateral to a civil service town. The way I see it, I will take any shot I get and with the transit, at least I know there are opportunities for overtime.



Posted by: badgebunny





Posted by: wryman

If they are still using the x2+1 system it SHOULD be as simple as this...Its not hard to understand...

For example a Town/City is hiring 10, 10x2+1= 21

A, John Boston Resident D-Vet
A, Joe Boston Resident Vet
B, Jane Boston Resident Vet
D, John Boston Resident Vet
W, William Boston Resident Vet

This would be the first 5 canidates
They are all tied. From A to Z. When the alpha order starts over the tie ends...(just an example) there could be 150 vets (all listed as #1) If you're the first civilian you would be listed as #151.

The order goes alphabetical....so on and so on
Remember the Town/City is hiring say 10. 10x2+1= 21

Go down the list and find your name...As long your # is 21 or below you should get a card in the mail.

The problem is, with this new fucked up system...there could be 150 people between A-Z, but only hiring 10, (remember 10x2+1= 21)

Does the Town/City give a card to ALL 150? Or do they pick and choose 21?
ALOT OF WASTED TIME to interview 150 for 10 spots....



Posted by: Crvtte65

Quote:
Originally Posted by davejoyce2000
I have a score band 8 on the exam. Does the rank also include people in my score band 8 with their last names alphabetically ahead of me? Does the number under total ties indicate the total amount of people that also scored a band 8?

My results are listed below. What are my chances of getting a card from HR?
Hey... did you you happen to see this thread?? CS Marks (All Discussions Here No Need For New Threads)


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Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
Originally Posted by TopCop24
Here are your chances....slim to none...i was 5th in my town after the 2003 test then 8th after the 2005 test, no call here
Depends on where your hometown is also if you are in a place that has a police force of ten people yeah good luck, but New Bedford was looking to hire 40 people last year so right there thats a good chunck of people off the list.



Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by robodope
The world needs ditch diggers too
now thats funny and true



Posted by: RCS

Quote:
Originally Posted by wryman
If they are still using the x2+1 system it SHOULD be as simple as this...Its not hard to understand...

For example a Town/City is hiring 10, 10x2+1= 21

A, John Boston Resident D-Vet
A, Joe Boston Resident Vet
B, Jane Boston Resident Vet
D, John Boston Resident Vet
W, William Boston Resident Vet

This would be the first 5 canidates
They are all tied. From A to Z. When the alpha order starts over the tie ends...(just an example) there could be 150 vets (all listed as #1) If you're the first civilian you would be listed as #151.

The order goes alphabetical....so on and so on
Remember the Town/City is hiring say 10. 10x2+1= 21

Go down the list and find your name...As long your # is 21 or below you should get a card in the mail.

The problem is, with this new fucked up system...there could be 150 people between A-Z, but only hiring 10, (remember 10x2+1= 21)

Does the Town/City give a card to ALL 150? Or do they pick and choose 21?
ALOT OF WASTED TIME to interview 150 for 10 spots....

That is my point. All 150 get a card because you are tied. That is a lot of interviews. I believe that the formula : number of hires x 2 + 1, still exists but larger cities always send out way more cards that what this formula calls for. At least this has been my experience as a professional test taker.....



Posted by: WaterPistola

Quote:
Originally Posted by RCS
At least this has been my experience as a professional test taker.....
does it pay well? anyway im wondering if i should change one of my towns that im fairly high up in (110) to MBTA because im in Greater Boston



Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterPistola
does it pay well? anyway im wondering if i should change one of my towns that im fairly high up in (110) to MBTA because im in Greater Boston
If your a vet, yes.



Posted by: WaterPistola

im not a vet, so i should stay with this town? what about cities? i heard that boston went through their last list, but that they didn't hire any non residents?



Posted by: redsox03

The MBTA list is full of Vets and D-Vets.



Posted by: SolObsession

Anyone at the other end of the state? Pittsfield area? Band 10, non-vet. # 6 in Pittsfield.



Posted by: cvboy

I am a civilian and I scored a 9 on 2007 police test. I am capeverdean and I speak the language fluently. Does anybody know what department ( city, town,) would be my best bet to choose?
any help would be apreciated



Posted by: Macop

Pin pulled



Posted by: coldsteel

Quote:
Originally Posted by cvboy
I am a civilian and I scored a 9 on 2007 police test. I am capeverdean and I speak the language fluently. Does anybody know what department ( city, town,) would be my best bet to choose?
any help would be apreciated
Is this a joke...



Posted by: RodneyFarva

i can speak swahili... will that help me get on any where?



Posted by: Gil

I'll entertain this a little.....

I think you would have been better off asking this question before the test, a lot less headaches submitting your choices the first go round. Now you want to go to HRD and change them all?

In any event, you would be hard pressed to get high enough on any list other than your home town preference. Unless of course you have vet status.

I'm not sure being "capeverdean" will help you at all.

As far as the 9 congrats, although I have no clue how this new band scoring is going to work out, I also heard changes in the way applicants are picked from the list so now a department can pretty mush reach whomever they want.



Posted by: coldsteel

Quote:
Originally Posted by cvboy
I am a civilian and I scored a 9 on 2007 police test. I am capeverdean and I speak the language fluently. Does anybody know what department ( city, town,) would be my best bet to choose?
any help would be apreciated
Maybe the Capeverdean PD are looking for people...LOL.



Posted by: ride1620


haha



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldsteel
Maybe the Capeverdean PD are looking for people...LOL.
I was thinking more along the line of Cape Canaveral or Cape Crusaders...



Posted by: JLT770

cape verdean, try Boston, Roxbury and Dorchester are your best bets.



Posted by: coldsteel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
cape verdean, try Boston, Roxbury and Dorchester are your best bets.
WOW... Do us the favor and tell us all about the last two PD's you listed? Friggin dumbass...LOL.



Posted by: JLT770

...funny thing i chose none of those

just trying to help the guy



Posted by: cvboy

I thought people were nicer here. I guess Only vets will become police officers. Maybe I wasted my $75 taking a test for a position that is guaranteed for few. lol lo.... seriously though. A police officer told me that I would have a good chance of getting in because they would need people with language skills. I am not trying to offend anyone. just anxious be become a police officer like most of you.. good luck to all you



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
cape verdean, try Boston, Roxbury and Dorchester are your best bets.
I believed Roxbury and Dorchester are only accepting laterals. He should put in for Mattapan PD.



Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Brockton PD is always looking for creole speaking officers. But you must be a resident as there are many cape verdeans that are residents and took the test. It also depends if they pull the bi-lingual list or the regular list.



Posted by: coldsteel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
...funny thing i chose none of those

just trying to help the guy
Wow bud.... I hope you picked Brighton PD. Starting pay right out of the academy is 50,000 Wonka Bars.... There always looking for a few good Oompa Loompa's.



Posted by: JLT770

i thought roxbury, brighton, allston, dot, etc were all Boston PD? not being a resident of any how could i choose them?



Posted by: ride1620

I heard the cape verdean PD worked along side Roxbury and Dorchester PD alot...If you get on the Cape Verdean PD im sure you can make some good contacts within Roxbury and Dorchester and then lateral to one of them

JLT..
You are correct, they are the same...just think in 13 more years you will be able to take the Civil Service test..



Posted by: JLT770

yeah i can't wait... im just saying there is a large population of cape verdean people in Dot, Roxbury. The BPD could probably use officers that speak cape verdean? just a hunch, but lets beat this dead horse some more.



Posted by: coldsteel

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
cape verdean, try Boston, Roxbury and Dorchester are your best bets.
So do explain what you meant by this post...hmmm

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
...funny thing i chose none of those

just trying to help the guy
And this one....hmmm



Posted by: true555

I Have a real problem , On page 38 of this thread a user by the name of Kevindvbay00 posted his rankings , They are the same as mine , does anybody really know how civil service is posting this? Is the rank a new type of Town or city code??? What is going on?? My rank is

New bedford Rank 52 (35 Ties) This is my resident listing
Achushnet Rank 37 (26 Ties)
Fairhaven Rank 76 (48 Ties)
Wareham Rank 46 (28 Ties)

3 of my Rankings are the same as Kevindvbay00 How is this possible??????



Posted by: JLT770

well, there is a big cape verdean population in those areas? and not being a Boston Resident i didnt pick BPD? i think its very simple



Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by true555
I Have a real problem , On page 38 of this thread a user by the name of Kevindvbay00 posted his rankings , They are the same as mine , does anybody really know how civil service is posting this? Is the rank a new type of Town or city code??? What is going on?? My rank is

New bedford Rank 52 (35 Ties) This is my resident listing
Achushnet Rank 37 (26 Ties)
Fairhaven Rank 76 (48 Ties)
Wareham Rank 46 (28 Ties)

3 of my Rankings are the same as Kevindvbay00 How is this possible??????
Come on, the answer was in your post. I'll give you a hint, they're not talking about a piece of clothing you wear around your neck.



Posted by: true555

I understand there are ties in each score , however what is the purpose of the "RANK" If I am ranked 52 with 35 ties does this mean there are 51 more groups with ties above me ? That is a lot of test applicants , if you do the math on---- Fairhaven--- Rank 76 and 48ties, if every rank had say 20 ties that would mean there are over 1400 candidates ahead of me, if every rank had say 30 ties that would be over 2200 ahead of me , there is no way that many people aplied to faihaven.



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Oh man... you gotta love the newbies!





Posted by: true555

OK guys I get it , I'm in the second block of aplicants with at least 51 ahead of me before I get a card,



Posted by: ride1620

JLT..
The whole issue is that you wrote try Boston, Roxbury, Dorchester..im assuming you meant trying moving there?? But im not sure, and everyone else here is probably thinking the same thing..that we hope you know that Roxbury and Dorchester are Boston PD, there is no individual PDs in those parts of Boston...it is all Boston PD and that is why everyone is getting a good laugh out of it...just wanted to clarify things for u and make you aware of what you wrote..



Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
Originally Posted by true555 I Have a real problem , On page 38 of this thread a user by the name of Kevindvbay00 posted his rankings , They are the same as mine , does anybody really know how civil service is posting this? Is the rank a new type of Town or city code??? What is going on?? My rank is

New bedford Rank 52 (35 Ties) This is my resident listing
Achushnet Rank 37 (26 Ties)
Fairhaven Rank 76 (48 Ties)
Wareham Rank 46 (28 Ties)
Quote:
3 of my Rankings are the same as Kevindvbay00 How is this possible??????
Come on, the answer was in your post. I'll give you a hint, they're not talking about a piece of clothing you wear around your neck.
LMAO so you're my competition makes me feel a little better, nah just kidding. The rank is how many people are ahead of us. So say for New Bedford, there are 51 names ahead of us until they hit the 9 band, and there are 35 of us tied at rank 52.

Hmm 46 in Wareham heh, maybe I'll switch Dartmouth to Wareham probably better than 96 then we will really be arch enemies .

How old are you?...wondering if I might know you.

Good Luck if you get a card because I know I will be bringing my A game.



Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by ride1620
JLT..
The whole issue is that you wrote try Boston, Roxbury, Dorchester..im assuming you meant trying moving there?? But im not sure, and everyone else here is probably thinking the same thing..that we hope you know that Roxbury and Dorchester are Boston PD, there is no individual PDs in those parts of Boston...it is all Boston PD and that is why everyone is getting a good laugh out of it...just wanted to clarify things for u and make you aware of what you wrote..
well i should have used a period instead of a comma...i meant

"cape verdean, try Boston. Roxbury and Dot are your best bet."

im only 8. ok guys?



Posted by: true555

Hmm 46 in Wareham heh, maybe I'll switch Dartmouth to Wareham probably better than 96 then we will really be arch enemies .

How old are you?...wondering if I might know you.

Good Luck if you get a card because I know I will be bringing my A game.[/quote]

Im 26, and a Vet, Just got home before the test date. , Do you know if Dartmouth hires reserve first ?? I hear Wareham is a good pick, anybody know how many they are going to hire? Good luck to all.



Posted by: redsox03

Watchout, Kevindubay00 is bringing his A game!

True555, I would change your Fairhaven pick to the MBTA because your a Vet. Good luck.



Posted by: Oscar8

Its very simple, you guys scored the same.



Posted by: kevindubay00

Alright now I'm a bit confused checked out the 9 band for New Bedford to see if I might know True555 since I am only two years older and there are no veterans in that band so how can he be same rank?

Plus I thought that vets were automatically bumped up higher for serving?



Posted by: wryman

Did'nt you know that its also ranked by your age? Where have you been?



Posted by: boysetsfire888

Quick question. When do we have to take the physical test? I was under the impression that after the written test there would be a physical test before the interviews. Wouldnt it make a lot more sense to wittle the field down as much as possible before the interview process? I dunno i guess that is just me.



Posted by: COto50

The physical test (PAT) is usually the last step in the process. It won't narrow the field that much because it isn't that hard.



Posted by: misconceived

Quote:
Originally Posted by COto50
The physical test (PAT) is usually the last step in the process. It won't narrow the field that much because it isn't that hard.
+1



Posted by: Foxy85

***Update***

Rumored Uxbridge P.D. won't be hiring anytime soon. They are going through budget problems, and officer shortages at the same time....makes for a bad combination. Moreover, they only pay their part-timers $9.00 an hour....And EVERYONE starts off part-time....

Something to think about....



Posted by: 94c

WBZ News is reporting a major fire at HRD. Computers have been completely destroyed. All records are lost and there will be another exam in March.



Posted by: cvboy

you are kidding humm???

tell me what department nobody chose so I can go lol.......



Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
WBZ News is reporting a major fire at HRD. Computers have been completely destroyed. All records are lost and there will be another exam in March.
As long as they remember that I was #1 in New Bedford, Fall River, Boston, and MBTA thats fine with me



Posted by: JLT770

WBZ pfff thought you would have gotten that fake info from a shitty news source like WHDH



Posted by: emerlad

umpa lumpa?
Now that was funny.



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
As long as they remember that I was #1 in New Bedford, Fall River, Boston, and MBTA thats fine with me
Even if they don't, you can always bring your "A game" and other jargon from VH1 reality TV shows to confuse them into believing so.



Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
Even if they don't, you can always bring your "A game" and other jargon from VH1 reality TV shows to confuse them into believing so.
ROFL



Posted by: wolf9848

Looks like Boston has just called up the list, I'm on the certification list along with about 330 other people.



Posted by: bgwin

I have three towns I am fairly satisfied with my rankings in, however one town is just a crap shoot. Would it be wise to play around and change this fourth town to see where I stand in other places, or would that be annoying?



Posted by: kevindubay00

This is your first warning this type of posting is uncalled for.
Harry Moderator

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
Even if they don't, you can always bring your "A game" and other jargon from VH1 reality TV shows to confuse them into believing so.
Heh obviously you don't know me, if the jargon doesn't help hopefully my degree will. It was a joke so get off your high horse we're all here for the same reason.

You know for a moderator maybe you shouldn't chase so many people away from a forum you are supposed to be helping. I don't know why it shocks me because there are already a million police officers like you out there, exactly what MA needs another better than thou officer...maybe you should be on the trooper forum .

While you're out beating up bad guys and trying to get on COPS I'll be trying to actually make a difference in a city I actually care about.

LOL well I typed all this to realize you are a woman ( Explains the snippy remarks) kind of ruins my argument but figured I'd post it anyway just to post my feelings about it. I have never wanted to do anything else with my life so getting bashed about it kind of pisses me off just a tad.

BTW beautiful baby girl my son is 3 weeks older than her.



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
Looks like Boston has just called up the list, I'm on the certification list along with about 330 other people.
How do you know?



Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
This is your first warning this type of posting is uncalled for.
Harry Moderator

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
Even if they don't, you can always bring your "A game" and other jargon from VH1 reality TV shows to confuse them into believing so.


Heh obviously you don't know me, if the jargon doesn't help hopefully my degree will. It was a joke so get off your high horse we're all here for the same reason.

You know for a moderator maybe you shouldn't chase so many people away from a forum you are supposed to be helping. I don't know why it shocks me because there are already a million police officers like you out there, exactly what MA needs another better than thou officer...maybe you should be on the trooper forum .

While you're out beating up bad guys and trying to get on COPS I'll be trying to actually make a difference in a city I actually care about.

LOL well I typed all this to realize you are a woman ( Explains the snippy remarks) kind of ruins my argument but figured I'd post it anyway just to post my feelings about it. I have never wanted to do anything else with my life so getting bashed about it kind of pisses me off just a tad.

BTW beautiful baby girl my son is 3 weeks older than her.



Quote:
This is just a heads up there are ranking officers from the New Bedford PD on this board one of which is on the interview board,postings like this will definatly hurt you
in the interview process.
For what telling her she should be nice and help people? I thought that was what Police Officers do?

Maybe you are taking what I said into the wrong context. I typed out the whole ranting part saying about beating up bad guys and such and then checked her profile to realize she was a woman. In no way was I degrading women I just doubt she is going around busting heads ( unless it is necessary of course).

While I was going through her profile I came across a picture of her daughter, my son was also born in November 0f 2006 3 weeks before her daughter and when I seen that cute little face I was like wow what the hell am I even complaining about.

If it came across wrong I do apologize, but again in no way was it a dig at being a woman and certainly not at a 1 year old, but if it's because I said she should be a little more helpful then I don't know what to tell you because thats just my opinion ( especially in the CS marks discussed forum some of these people you guys make fun of could possibly be the future of policing and it would be a shame for good future police officers to change their minds because police officers on a forum degraded them).

Again sincere apologies for anone who might have found this offensive that's not what it was meant to be, Kevin



Posted by: misconceived

Anyone bringing the popcorn?



Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
This is your first warning this type of posting is uncalled for.
Harry Moderator



Heh obviously you don't know me, if the jargon doesn't help hopefully my degree will. It was a joke so get off your high horse we're all here for the same reason.

You know for a moderator maybe you shouldn't chase so many people away from a forum you are supposed to be helping. I don't know why it shocks me because there are already a million police officers like you out there, exactly what MA needs another better than thou officer...maybe you should be on the trooper forum .

While you're out beating up bad guys and trying to get on COPS I'll be trying to actually make a difference in a city I actually care about.

LOL well I typed all this to realize you are a woman ( Explains the snippy remarks) kind of ruins my argument but figured I'd post it anyway just to post my feelings about it. I have never wanted to do anything else with my life so getting bashed about it kind of pisses me off just a tad.

BTW beautiful baby girl my son is 3 weeks older than her.
Going to war with Dunny? Not a good idea.................



Posted by: kevindubay00

Absolutely not... not going to war with anyone just simply wanted to say that allot of people probably never come back to this forum because I've noticed that when they ask questions they get made fun of.

Like I said the CS discussion forum is especially not the place to do it IMO allot of these people are probably really young and just looking for help in something they don't know much about chastising them about it is like your mechanic calling you a moron for paying $50 for an oil change when you can do it yourself for like $15 and 5 minutes if you don't have the knowledge it does you no good.

hehe if you run you're just gonna goto jail tired I like that



Posted by: Foxy85

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Absolutely not... not going to war with anyone just simply wanted to say that allot of people probably never come back to this forum because I've noticed that when they ask questions they get made fun of.

There are no stupid questions.....just stupid people.....



Posted by: ProudAmerican

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxrock75
Going to war with Dunny? Not a good idea.................
I went to war with Dunny once...then I saw her pic and realized she was HOT...I couldnt stay mad at her after that



Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
Originally Posted by ProudAmerican
I went to war with Dunny once...then I saw her pic and realized she was HOT...I couldnt stay mad at her after that
Hehe a hot female police officer don't get any better than that



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Hehe a hot female police officer don't get any better than that
So what's your opinion on fraternizing on the job?



Posted by: Foxy85

"In our cruisers, the doors have to be opened from the outside...."

Any takers? LoL



Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
So what's your opinion on fraternizing on the job?
Unless my wife becomes a police officer that won't be happening



Posted by: IheartTheWire

So did anyone else get on a Certification list? I am on two for Boston. I believe one is just all the Vets, plus 10s with residence, and the other is all the vets and 10s who speak Spanish fluently (although it could be those who speak any other language fluently, as I see some Greek sounding last names on there).

Anyone else?



Posted by: nitetrain

What is your rank for Boston? Is it all Vets or just ones with Residency. I'm on there as a vet with no residency and I'm defenitley not on the Cert list.

Bri



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by nitetrain
What is your rank for Boston? Is it all Vets or just ones with Residency. I'm on there as a vet with no residency and I'm defenitley not on the Cert list.

Bri

Hey you know how many people are on that list for boston?
just curious i got a 10 resident and I dont see anything
thanks



Posted by: nitetrain

I think something like 5100 people on the Boston list....I am # 2140 9 vet non-res. I'm looking into changing towns. I'm pretty low on my other 3 towns so I may just leave it.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by IheartTheWire
So did anyone else get on a Certification list? I am on two for Boston. I believe one is just all the Vets, plus 10s with residence, and the other is all the vets and 10s who speak Spanish fluently (although it could be those who speak any other language fluently, as I see some Greek sounding last names on there).

Anyone else?
hey how many people are on the the Certification list?
Did it reach the residents with 10s?



Posted by: hawkeyz77

Does any mind telling me what a DVET is and what are common disabilities? I am not being disrespectful. I am just curious- Thanks!



Posted by: JLT770

DVET is a disabled veteran, they may have been shot in the ass while in the military? which may or may not be common



Posted by: Rocco39

Quote:
Originally Posted by hawkeyz77
Does any mind telling me what a DVET is and what are common disabilities? I am not being disrespectful. I am just curious- Thanks!
That is a very good question. I've been wondering the same thing. I'm assuming that whatever the disability is, it has to be minor (oxymoron?) b/c otherwise you gotta believe it would interfere with their ability to perform the duties of a police officer.

?? anyone else have any first hand info on this subject?



Posted by: fidelis98

I am a disabled vet and I can tell you that in this state being considered for disability status you must be 10% or higher. Now, these disabilities vary obviously but none of them are common. Thats why we are considered first on lists, because our status sets us apart from everyone else. No offense but common has nothing to do with it.....SEMPER FI.



Posted by: Mmp1

10-non vet-178 for boston, anyone know if this is good enough to get in the first class, or maybee the 2nd?



Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
DVET is a disabled veteran, they may have been shot in the ass while in the military? which may or may not be common
wow. to me it sounds like a dvet is a joke to you, which being a vet myself, royally pisses me off.



Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
DVET is a disabled veteran, they may have been shot in the ass while in the military? which may or may not be common
More often is better to stay quiet and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt..................



Posted by: hawkeyz77

Quote:
Originally Posted by screamineagle
wow. to me it sounds like a dvet is a joke to you, which being a vet myself, royally pisses me off.
Sorry to piss you off - TG- An answer would have helped



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Any 10 non-vet residents get on the list for boston yet?



Posted by: Rocco39

Quote:
Originally Posted by redsox03
More often is better to stay quiet and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt..................
I agree with your sentiment. However, the question remains. For curiosity sake if nothing else, I would think that most folks are wondering what the degree/severity of disability the DVets on the CS list have. Not for any morbid fascination, but rather a curiosity as to what the cut off for a qualifying disability would be as it pertains to getting on the job. In other words, I would assume that a DVET who suffered a loss of limb probably would not be eligible for hire as an LEO, where as someone with "10 %" range disability would be more likely to be hired.
With that said, regardless of the disability, they all deserve the first crack at the jobs!



Posted by: IheartTheWire

On the human resources website (under the Applicant Issued Certification link) it says I am now only on one list for Boston. Two days ago I was on two! Crap. Hmm ... oh well, the one I am listed on has me really high up. I am a 10 non-vet w/residency. I'm also hispanic and bilingual so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I'm guessing ... it does.

The lists became active on 11/16. So I'm guessing postcards soon? I also work downtown in a place with tons of BPD and rumor has it they are looking to do an academy in February, and one immediately after that. Don't quote me on that, as it's just hearsay at this point.



Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

Has anyone else received any cards or word that they are on a cert list. If so what towns??? So far I have only heard of Boston and another town which has yet to be disclosed. Just curious as to how many are getting a chance since the list was established.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by FghtNIrsh17
Has anyone else received any cards or word that they are on a cert list. If so what towns??? So far I have only heard of Boston and another town which has yet to be disclosed. Just curious as to how many are getting a chance since the list was established.
The only time cards go out is when a department is looking to hire NOW and they need a list of candidates.

Some of these guys are full of shit.



Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

Quote:
The only time cards go out is when a department is looking to hire NOW and they need a list of candidates.

Some of these guys are full of shit.
94c, i knew that they only put out cards when they want to hire but thanks for the info anyways. And I agree with ya thats why I put the question out there. I had seen that someone else had posted that they were on a cert list and asked about the card but never posted any city/town, so figured I would ask again.



Posted by: 94c

You're right.

Everyone who took and passed the exam is automatically on a certified list.

So for everyone claiming they're on a certified list only means you passed the test and nothing else.

Congrats...



Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by screamineagle
wow. to me it sounds like a dvet is a joke to you, which being a vet myself, royally pisses me off.
disabled veteran is not a joke to me at all, by all means they deserve to be at the top of any and all CS lists, i made a bad joke and regret it. i am sorry for offending you or any other vets out there. What is a joke to me is the people at the top of lists by litigation...i don't think that's fair at all, unless they were completely screwed somehow by the CS Exam.

I wonder as well as what makes a DVet a DVet. It was a quick sarcastic answer that i made and am sorry for it.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by IheartTheWire
On the human resources website (under the Applicant Issued Certification link) it says I am now only on one list for Boston. Two days ago I was on two! Crap. Hmm ... oh well, the one I am listed on has me really high up. I am a 10 non-vet w/residency. I'm also hispanic and bilingual so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I'm guessing ... it does.

The lists became active on 11/16. So I'm guessing postcards soon? I also work downtown in a place with tons of BPD and rumor has it they are looking to do an academy in February, and one immediately after that. Don't quote me on that, as it's just hearsay at this point.

so are you really on a list for boston?
how many people were on it?
thanks

i am hearing 200 cops for 2008 in boston



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by IheartTheWire
On the human resources website (under the Applicant Issued Certification link) it says I am now only on one list for Boston. Two days ago I was on two! Crap. Hmm ... oh well, the one I am listed on has me really high up. I am a 10 non-vet w/residency. I'm also hispanic and bilingual so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. I'm guessing ... it does.

The lists became active on 11/16. So I'm guessing postcards soon? I also work downtown in a place with tons of BPD and rumor has it they are looking to do an academy in February, and one immediately after that. Don't quote me on that, as it's just hearsay at this point.
If Boston is a "Consent Decree" department. And I think they are, every 4th name on the list has to be a minority.



Posted by: IheartTheWire

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
The only time cards go out is when a department is looking to hire NOW and they need a list of candidates.

Some of these guys are full of shit.
Okay then explain this to me --

Applicant Issued Certifications: Applicant issued certifications is a means for HRD to notify candidates on-line that an interview notice was mailed and that their name was recently released to a hiring appointing authority on a certification eligible list. This area is only populated with information if your name was reached for notification of an available position vacancy and then until the eligible list expires. This area is a backup to the postcard you receive from HRD informing you of a vacancy and where to report if you are interested in said vacancy.

Maybe you're right as this is all new to me, but maybe not. As for Boston hiring 200 - that's awesome! Much more than I woud have thought. God knows they need it. Dorchester and Roxbury are dying.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

IHEARTTHEWIRE,
are you on the certified list?
Boston is non-consent decree



Posted by: wolf9848

Received my card from Boston today. Also heard from a reliable source that there might be a chance of Civil Service running another test in 08 because of the lack of minorities that took part in 07's exam.



Posted by: cvboy

I am 23 years old. I scored a 9. I am a civilian. I am a boston resident.
my ranking is 318 and 400 people tied with me.

That is problably 10000 people ahead of me giving that each rank has x number of people tied. Will they ever reach me?

Do you knows know of any department that may call for a list of Cape Verdean speaking people. That is probably my only hope. I am not in any certified list.
I chose Boston, Brockton,MBTA, and quincy.
Any advice as to what list to drop and what do add?
thanks and good luck to all....



Posted by: cvboy

congrats on certification. good luck



Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
Received my card from Boston today. Also heard from a reliable source that there might be a chance of Civil Service running another test in 08 because of the lack of minorities that took part in 07's exam.
minorities in boston? or minorities overall taking the exam?



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
Received my card from Boston today. Also heard from a reliable source that there might be a chance of Civil Service running another test in 08 because of the lack of minorities that took part in 07's exam.

congrats on the card
are you a vet?



Posted by: wolf9848

Yes, I'm a Vet. I'd assume if a new test was to be held, it would involve everyone having the chance to take the exam.



Posted by: SargeLorenzo

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
disabled veteran is not a joke to me at all, by all means they deserve to be at the top of any and all CS lists, i made a bad joke and regret it. i am sorry for offending you or any other vets out there. What is a joke to me is the people at the top of lists by litigation...i don't think that's fair at all, unless they were completely screwed somehow by the CS Exam.
Nice try at backpeddling, but, I'm not buying it. You did alot of crying a while back about how you poor college boys w/ no balls to join the military were being pushed aside by us vets. Getting an 8 didn't seem to help you out any, either.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by IheartTheWire
Okay then explain this to me --

Applicant Issued Certifications: Applicant issued certifications is a means for HRD to notify candidates on-line that an interview notice was mailed and that their name was recently released to a hiring appointing authority on a certification eligible list. This area is only populated with information if your name was reached for notification of an available position vacancy and then until the eligible list expires. This area is a backup to the postcard you receive from HRD informing you of a vacancy and where to report if you are interested in said vacancy.
.
Isn't that what I said but with less words?



Posted by: IheartTheWire

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
Isn't that what I said but with less words?
No. In related news, I got a card in the mail as well for Boston. So, I'm out of here. Good luck to everyone!



Posted by: POPCOP

This batching system is stupid.....



Posted by: Mmp1

dont listen to these people, cards have not come out for boston yet.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

any non vet Boston residents with a score of 10 and not bilingual get a card yet?
thanks



Posted by: WaterPistola

Quote:
Originally Posted by POPCOP
This batching system is stupid.....
nice observation



Posted by: Demetri

I got a card on Saturday. What does it mean if I'm on the certification list? Also, any advice on the interview? and what's next, after I meet with the interviewer?



Posted by: davejoyce2000

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
You're right.

Everyone who took and passed the exam is automatically on a certified list.

So for everyone claiming they're on a certified list only means you passed the test and nothing else.

Congrats...
I passed the exam with an 8 and I'm not on the certification list. It says, "
You are not on any Certification Lists as of this date". Anyone know why?



Posted by: Mmp1

don't listen to these people they havent started handing out cards for Boston yet..........



Posted by: JLT770

davejoyce i think that certification page is for EMT-B and Paramedic, or being fluent in a language other than english...



Posted by: davejoyce2000

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
davejoyce i think that certification page is for EMT-B and Paramedic, or being fluent in a language other than english...
That was the message I got when I clicked on this part:,

3. Applicant Issued Certifications Applicant Issued Certifications Applicant issued certifications is a means for HRD to notify candidates on-line that an interview notice was mailed and that their name was recently released to a hiring appointing authority on a certification eligible list. This area is only populated with information if your name was reached for notification of an available position vacancy and then until the eligible list expires. This area is a backup to the postcard you receive from HRD informing you of a vacancy and where to report if you are interested in said vacancy.



Posted by: ride1620

Being on a Cert list means when the chief called HR for a list your name is on it. It is a way of giving you a heads up that you are getting a card.



Posted by: Delta784

This thread might as well be in Attic Greek; banded scores, credit for training, bi-lingual.....these things didn't exist back when I took the CS exam.

Which was also before electricity.



Posted by: misconceived

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1
dont listen to these people, cards have not come out for boston yet.
YES they did.....



Posted by: redsox03

I have been changing one of picks around and I found a town that has no residents on it. LOL I'm 7 on the list.



Posted by: JLT770

what is the population 1000?



Posted by: mikeyv7712

I just talked to one of my friends he is a vet resident in Boston and he got a card late last week



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1
don't listen to these people they havent started handing out cards for Boston yet..........
Im sure these people have no reason to lie about receiving a card bro. Don't hate...congratulate.

On that note congrats to those who have received cards thus far, I'm on the certification list for Boston as well, so hopefully mines is on it's way.



Posted by: WaterPistola

congrats and good luck guys



Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Best of luck and hope all goes well for those who have received cards!



Posted by: Mmp1

HAHA don't listen to these people, cards have NOT been sent out for Boston yet....



Posted by: kwflatbed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1
HAHA don't listen to these people, cards have NOT been sent out for Boston yet....

OK posting the same message three times is not needed.
Harry



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1
HAHA don't listen to these people, cards have NOT been sent out for Boston yet....
Dude quit it...HRD confirmed cards have been sent.

Some advice please...

Long story short, I called HRD for the contact person that was named for the certfification list. I left a message and decided to contact the other HRD to find out what was my next step after being put on the certification list. She transferred me to a Det. and he told me to basically wait for the card. About an hour ago the woman at HRD called me back and told me I didnt need the card to just print the page out and go up there because it's important to sign the paper saying i would except employment.

Not sure if I should go with the Det. or HRD


4get it..Just read I have to the 29th to respond so I guess there is no rush. Im sure the card will be here before then.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston24
Dude quit it...HRD confirmed cards have been sent.

Some advice please...

Long story short, I called HRD for the contact person that was named for the certfification list. I left a message and decided to contact the other HRD to find out what was my next step after being put on the certification list. She transferred me to a Det. and he told me to basically wait for the card. About an hour ago the woman at HRD called me back and told me I didnt need the card to just print the page out and go up there because it's important to sign the paper saying i would except employment.

Not sure if I should go with the Det. or HRD
Listen to HRD. Let the Detective know that his opinion doesn't matter. Maybe he'll be the same one doing your background



Posted by: JLT770

i hope you except employment Boston24



Posted by: GodblessThearmy

I will add some insight for those who are Vets to give you and idea, but this is just what happened to me.

I got off active duty June 28th 2005. I was at day 1 in the academy June 5th 2006. The whole time since I took the military make up in Oct. 2005 I couldn't sleep and trolled these boards looking for any piece of info I could find. I was working a internship for my DPW while going through the process and just focused on that. Good luck to all, pretty exciting time!



Posted by: Rocco39

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodblessThearmy
I will add some insight for those who are Vets to give you and idea, but this is just what happened to me.

I got off active duty June 28th 2005. I was at day 1 in the academy June 5th 2006. The whole time since I took the military make up in Oct. 2005 I couldn't sleep and trolled these boards looking for any piece of info I could find. I was working a internship for my DPW while going through the process and just focused on that. Good luck to all, pretty exciting time!
I'll top that.

13 years ago I got the card for the city I was living in at the time. I was engaged to my wife and had a good job/career. I talked it over with her and she was dead set against my dream to become an LEO. So I opted not to "sign the book". 13 years and a good career behind me I'm back in the hunt and this time the wife understands that this was not a passing faze, but a true dream this time she is behind me and supports my decision. To all on this board, I say if you really want to become a PO, never give up trying. It might mean you move out of state, hold another job for a time or take a less than dream position. Just don't quit!



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
i hope you except employment Boston24
Thanks and BELIEVE me I am!



Posted by: Mmp1

Any non-vets get a card from boston yet??



Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

I have a question regarding the result of when cards get sent out. May sound stupid, however I do not know the correct answer.

When a dept sends out for X amount of people do you move up on the list when all the candidates sign/don't sign the list by the deadline given.

For example:
Say Boston sends out 300 cards and the deadline for the signature comes and goes. You are say 1000 on the list and do not get a card. Once the deadline to sign passes does the list then update and you move up to 700 on the list or remain at 1000???

Also when they have an interview and don't get a position or don't sign by the deadline do they go back on the list for the next round of hires?? Thanks in advance for your help.



Posted by: WaterPistola

i don't think you go UP the list, they go DOWN the list til they get the people they need.



Posted by: wryman

Quote:
Originally Posted by FghtNIrsh17
I have a question regarding the result of when cards get sent out. May sound stupid, however I do not know the correct answer.

When a dept sends out for X amount of people do you move up on the list when all the candidates sign/don't sign the list by the deadline given.

For example:
Say Boston sends out 300 cards and the deadline for the signature comes and goes. You are say 1000 on the list and do not get a card. Once the deadline to sign passes does the list then update and you move up to 700 on the list or remain at 1000???

Also when they have an interview and don't get a position or don't sign by the deadline do they go back on the list for the next round of hires?? Thanks in advance for your help.
The only time names are taken off the list is if a canidate gets hired FULL TIME. Reserve and Permin. Intermitt. hires stay on the list till hired FULL TIME. If a canidate refuses or does not sign by the deadline, they stay on the list. A canidate must be BYPASSED 3 times for them to be removed from the list.
Now remember a tie is NOT considered a bypass



Posted by: Mmp1

Any non-vets for boston get a card yet????????????



Posted by: Boston24

FYI-

fOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON A ELIGIBILTY LIST AND ARE WAITING ON CARDS BUT STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE FOR WHATEVER REASON,

The eligibilty list that is on the computer (your account) is the electronic version of the card your waiting on in the mail, I hadnt received my card yet as I posted earlier but HRD said to print what appears in your account and bring it down when you sign your name at Headquarters verifying that indeed you are on the list.

Call HRD if you want verification but I would do so soon!



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boston24
FYI-

fOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE ON A ELIGIBILTY LIST AND ARE WAITING ON CARDS BUT STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE FOR WHATEVER REASON,

The eligibilty list that is on the computer (your account) is the electronic version of the card your waiting on in the mail, I hadnt received my card yet as I posted earlier but HRD said to print what appears in your account and bring it down when you sign your name at Headquarters verifying that indeed you are on the list.

Call HRD if you want verification but I would do so soon!
Boston24 can you see the list? if so how many people are on it?
thanks



Posted by: Mmp1

Anyone have an idea of how many people are going to be hired for Boston??



Posted by: davejoyce2000

Bradley, ET AL. V. Comm.
"As a result of a recent court decision and settlement agreement reached in the case of BRADLEY, ET AL. V. COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS, ET AL., U.S. DISTRICT COURT, CIVIL ACTION NO. 05-CV-10213-PBS, certain candidates who took the 2002 or 2004 entry-level civil service firefighter examination, or the 2003 or 2005 entry-level civil service police officer examination may be entitled to be considered for hiring in the next round of hiring as a police officer or firefighter in the respective city or town where you applied."

I scored an 85 on the 2005 exam and was never notified of this case.

Does this case also affect minorities who achieved a passing score or only those with a score of 90 or above on the exam?



Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by davejoyce2000
Bradley, ET AL. V. Comm.
"As a result of a recent court decision and settlement agreement reached in the case of BRADLEY, ET AL. V. COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS, ET AL., U.S. DISTRICT COURT, CIVIL ACTION NO. 05-CV-10213-PBS, certain candidates who took the 2002 or 2004 entry-level civil service firefighter examination, or the 2003 or 2005 entry-level civil service police officer examination may be entitled to be considered for hiring in the next round of hiring as a police officer or firefighter in the respective city or town where you applied."

I scored an 85 on the 2005 exam and was never notified of this case.

Does this case also affect minorities who achieved a passing score or only those with a score of 90 or above on the exam?
Yeah, your card will be in the mail this week.
You got an 85 and you want a free card because your a minority? Give me a break.

You should PM Macop, I'm sure he knows how to use the system.



Posted by: Mmp1

Any non-vets from boston get a card yet, and does anyone know how many people are being hired???



Posted by: kwflatbed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mmp1
Any non-vets from boston get a card yet, and does anyone know how many people are being hired???

You do not need to ask this question everyday,when someone gets a card they will post it.

Harry
Moderator



Posted by: mikeyv7712

I heard from HM that the list was all the Vets
Hopefully civilians will be next



Posted by: Oscar8

Anyone else down here on the cape in here?



Posted by: mikeyv7712

anyone who got a card from the BPD go down and sign yet?
whats the deadline?
thanks



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712
anyone who got a card from the BPD go down and sign yet?
whats the deadline?
thanks
Yea I went down yesterday, the deadline is the 29th. This Saturday is application orientation.

The MBTA deadline is Dec. 5th. Dec. 15th is application orientation. And oh, as a heads up, they want $3100 for the academy if you make it through the process...up front.



Posted by: jay-z

I have a question, it looks like I will be receiving a notice from the MBTA. Yes, I know it is not a sure thing, I most likely will not even get an interview. My question is I am currently working for a non civil service department now. Yes, I know I can't transfer to a civil service department, but if by the luck of the draw, I do get a job offer with the MBTA, do I have to attend their acadamy?



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by jay-z
I have a question, it looks like I will be receiving a notice from the MBTA. Yes, I know it is not a sure thing, I most likely will not even get an interview. My question is I am currently working for a non civil service department now. Yes, I know I can't transfer to a civil service department, but if by the luck of the draw, I do get a job offer with the MBTA, do I have to attend their acadamy?
If you graduated from a full-time municipal police academy, then no.



Posted by: jay-z

Yes S. Weymouth grad here....Thanks Delta784



Posted by: WaterPistola

$3100? geez, that could deter a few people, not the heart set people though.



Posted by: kevindubay00

ouch $3100 that would kill me to get that far and not be able to afford it



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
ouch $3100 that would kill me to get that far and not be able to afford it
Yea it is alot. They give you an itemized list of everything you're paying for. It includes your weapon and your uniforms, among alot of other things.



Posted by: kevindubay00

Anyone know if it is like that everywhere?

Kinda makes sense now considering it's for your weapon and such



Posted by: Foxy85

Beg, borrow and collect cans on the side of the road if you get an offer....To pass it up simply because you don't have the money would be such a shame...



Posted by: mikeyv7712

$3100 for which academy mbta or boston?



Posted by: Mmp1

Mbta



Posted by: KSFOLEY04

Just pay the $3100 if you get in. I cant beleive people would even think of not paying if they had the chance to get on. Im sure the person waiting behind you will find $3100 if they get the call!



Posted by: WaterPistola

Quote:
Originally Posted by KSFOLEY04
Just pay the $3100 if you get in. I cant beleive people would even think of not paying if they had the chance to get on. Im sure the person waiting behind you will find $3100 if they get the call!
I know I will. MY LIFE SAVINGS haha jk.



Posted by: kevindubay00

Trust me I would use every option available to get it.

Raised about that for ACL surgery for my dog so I know it can be done.



Posted by: redsox03

I'm on the certification list for Worcester and another small town. Can I sign both lists or do I pick one?
I wasn't expecting a card from Worcester because I'm not a resident, so I'm excited.



Posted by: Boston24

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Originally Posted by redsox03
I'm on the certification list for Worcester and another small town. Will I be getting cards for both? Can I accept both or do I pick 1?
Congrats on that and yes you will get cards for both, and you should pursue both just in case one doesnt work out. GO after all options presented to you. Also dude, I wouldn't wait for the cards, just print out from the computer and go there and sign the lists.



Posted by: Matt23

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Originally Posted by redsox03
I'm on the certification list for Worcester and another small town. Can I sign both lists or do I pick one?
I wasn't expecting a card from Worcester because I'm not a resident, so I'm excited.
This morning when I checked my standings it said I was on the Worcester cert list, had the number and reporting date and all. Now when I check it says I'm not on any lists yet. So I hope it's some kind of glitch.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

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Originally Posted by Matt23
This morning when I checked my standings it said I was on the Worcester cert list, had the number and reporting date and all. Now when I check it says I'm not on any lists yet. So I hope it's some kind of glitch.
yeah the list disappeared in mine today too



Posted by: Mmp1

Haha



Posted by: misconceived

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Originally Posted by Mmp1
Haha
Man...you are bitter.



Posted by: WaterPistola

that kinda sux, well let me ask you guys this. were you high scoring applicants say 10 Vets? or lower like 7 Civilians?



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

I know this is old and I'm a bit late in my reply, but you are going to get a well-deserved response from me:

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Heh obviously you don't know me, if the jargon doesn't help hopefully my degree will. It was a joke so get off your high horse we're all here for the same reason.
OOOooo! Sensitive, huh?


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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
You know for a moderator maybe you shouldn't chase so many people away from a forum you are supposed to be helping. I don't know why it shocks me because there are already a million police officers like you out there, exactly what MA needs another better than thou officer...maybe you should be on the trooper forum .


I was helping... I showed people that they shouldn't say stuff like "A-game" in public!

So exactly how many people did I chase away? Can you give me an exact number, please, and an explanation of how you know this? Did you get a bunch of PMs saying something along the lines of, "That rotten Dunny! She's a real poo-poo head! That does it, I am NEVER coming back here AGAIN, all because of HER!" Of course you didn't, that would be RIDICULOUS! Only a whinebag, crybaby with no sense of humor or the ability to laugh at him/herself would do that... hmmm, maybe I'm onto something here...

Like me? How do you know what I'm like? Also, are you insinuating that Troopers are egotistical, pretentious assholes? Hmmm... that's not a great way to make a first impression on DIs scouting the posts of potential new recruits on this board, by bashing officers from any given agency within the Commonwealth!

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
While you're out beating up bad guys and trying to get on COPS I'll be trying to actually make a difference in a city I actually care about.


Yes, because police brutality is just running RAMPANT in Massachusetts and thankfully, COPS is always here to catch that on film. And of course, to make a statement like that must mean that you've seen me in action, busting heads and cracking skulls. I am simply amazed at how you know me so well based on a one line post I made in reference to your "A-game!" So I guess if you become a cop, you'll be the one to rescue Metropolis because the rest of the cops in this state are nothing but psychotic savages that just wanna get on television!

Hmmm... this is beginning to smell more and more like cop-hating propaganda to me... he resents police officers, yet he wants to be one... how very fascinating!

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
LOL well I typed all this to realize you are a woman ( Explains the snippy remarks) kind of ruins my argument but figured I'd post it anyway just to post my feelings about it. I have never wanted to do anything else with my life so getting bashed about it kind of pisses me off just a tad.


Ohhhh, waiiiiit a minute! So now that you know I'm a woman, that changes things? Your argument is "ruined?" And why is that, kevvie-boy? Am I less of a threat to you? Not as capable as a man to do police work (which is beating up bad guys and trying to get on COPS, according to you)? Not quite as intimidating now that you realize I possess parts of the human body that you don't (like a brain, for starters)?

Oops, there I go again, letting those stereotypically feminine "snippy remarks" fly! Ohhhh boy, I am just SUCH a WOMAN!

If you didn't notice, this board is called "MASSCOPS," not "The Dr. Phil House." Nobody here gives a flying frigg about your feelings. If you're looking for a place to go stamp your feet, whine about being picked on and make slanderous assumptions about police officers, go somewhere else... this isn't the place to do it.

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
BTW beautiful baby girl my son is 3 weeks older than her.


Thank you. Tell him I said, "Happy Birthday."


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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
For what telling her she should be nice and help people? I thought that was what Police Officers do?
Huh? According to you, I thought all police officers did was beat up bad guys and try to get on COPS? When did "nice" and "help" sneak in there? DAMN, I guess I'm in the wrong line of work! Bummer.

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Maybe you are taking what I said into the wrong context. I typed out the whole ranting part saying about beating up bad guys and such and then checked her profile to realize she was a woman. In no way was I degrading women I just doubt she is going around busting heads ( unless it is necessary of course).
In no way were you degrading women; you were just bashing cops instead!

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
While I was going through her profile I came across a picture of her daughter, my son was also born in November 0f 2006 3 weeks before her daughter and when I seen that cute little face I was like wow what the hell am I even complaining about.
Yeah, babies do make the world seem so much brighter... by the way, do me a favor? Don't ever mention my daughter again. Yeah... Liiiittle too creepy there.

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
If it came across wrong I do apologize, but again in no way was it a dig at being a woman and certainly not at a 1 year old, but if it's because I said she should be a little more helpful then I don't know what to tell you because thats just my opinion ( especially in the CS marks discussed forum some of these people you guys make fun of could possibly be the future of policing and it would be a shame for good future police officers to change their minds because police officers on a forum degraded them).
If anyone changes their mind that easily and quickly about being a cop because of a comment not even addressed to or about them that they read on a message board, then they're not cut out for or serious about the job anyway. Nothing about them would be a "good future police officer" if that's all the stamina they have. I personally didn't degrade anyone, but if you think that I degraded you in some way, then that's in YOUR interpretation. It's all on you, dude.

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Again sincere apologies for anone who might have found this offensive that's not what it was meant to be, Kevin
It doesn't sound sincere, it sounds contradictory. But I'll accept your apology anyway. Have a nice day.



Posted by: kevindubay00

Well deserved I suppose and again I apologize was just having an off day.

Trust me I don't dislike cops in anyway just a little defensive, all I do is catch $%&@ about wanting to be a cop so I get a little snippy about it

Please do forgive me and I hope we can get off to a better start.

P.S. Must be busy eh that was like a month ago



Posted by: SargeLorenzo

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Trust me I don't dislike cops in anyway just a little defensive, all I do is catch $%&@ about wanting to be a cop so I get a little snippy about it
So you must be socializing with a real bunch of winners, or, is it your family that sucks? Either one explains a few things.



Posted by: MM1799

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Originally Posted by kevindubay00
I don't know why it shocks me because there are already a million police officers like you out there, exactly what MA needs another better than thou officer...maybe you should be on the trooper forum
At last those terrible troopers have LE careers. Tough words from someone who isn't on the job and probably wont get on after you've shown your disdain for fellow officers in MA -- it's not as if anyone who needs to know cant put your screen name + "new bedford" together.

Good luck anyway.



Posted by: redsox03

The same thing happened to me. I was on the certification list for Worcester, now I'm not. WTF?

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Originally Posted by WaterPistola
that kinda sux, well let me ask you guys this. were you high scoring applicants say 10 Vets? or lower like 7 Civilians?
10 + Vet



Posted by: kevindubay00

Like I said it was all just a distasteful joke and I apologize.

Would never take anything away from you guys on the job you have one of the hardest most underpaid jobs out there.



Posted by: redsox03

I went to Worceter today. They said they only wanted 150 off the list for 29 positions, not 500. I should of known that was to good to be true. Oh well, I got my card in the mail for another town today. They called 9 off the list for 3 openings, so I got a good shot.

Also, my card says to report to the Chief to sign the list. Should I wear a suit to go sign the list?



Posted by: WaterPistola

sorry to hear about that, but good luck with that town. why not wear a suit to sign the list. i mean its down to 9 now, everything counts. it's not like those clown