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Posted by: JakeDodge

Got a 9, Non-Vet, White Male, already an Auxilliary with Reserve Academy, and just starting EMT-Basic Course. So basically, Im praying at this point.



Posted by: bgwin

This is my first time taking the test and because of that I am new to the process, but I know it's overall just a waiting game where you hope and pray you get hired. What is the next step in this process? Wait and rankings are given out? I'm just trying to understand the whole process so I know what is going on.



Posted by: COto50

you wait for the lists to get posted. On or around Nov 9th, then you get to see what you shot is depending on where you stand.



Posted by: jmac572

Just figured I would post this...

For anyone who took the september 29th entry police exam, I spoke with a rep at the HRD and was told that their plan is to release all scores before the eligibility list is established so that no person will miss out on any job opporunity, so hurry up and get your last experience claims in!

also, if you took the sept 29th exam and your wondering why your HRD online account hasnt updated past the "scheduled" status... they are overwhelmed, she said the next update will be your score.

-JD



Posted by: misconceived

The best part of the list coming out is when you get to see everyones names and find out who was full of shit when they said they had a "high" score. You then make sure they never live it down.


In all honesty, once the list comes out you do absolutely nothing.
You just have to wait for a card to come from Civil Circus stating
"Department XX is hiring so many officers." You'll get instruction from there.



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Oh so the list actually has everyone's name on it? That's pretty cool because I can see how others had done. I just thought I was given a number and that's it. Now I look forward to getting the list even more.



Posted by: L4G81

[quote=misconceived]The best part of the list coming out is when you get to see everyones names and find out who was full of shit when they said they had a "high" score. You then make sure they never live it down. quote]

I CANNOT WAIT for that. There are a few people I know who "claim" they got a ten who love to simply lie their way through life.



Posted by: lightsandsirens

vets are in band 11, civilians are band 10 and below.



Posted by: misconceived

Awhile back they showed what number you were and how many people tied with you. Then they changed it so it just shows the names in order.


One of my buddies will still tell people that he scored a 97 on the '03 exam.
Try an 87 dude. He was one of the many that "forgot" everyone could see the list.



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Ah great, nice way to get those people who often brag about things that never happened. I know a few of those, and hopefully they will be exposed by the list. It's just funny how people know this person and so forth and they are basically hired by their terms.



Posted by: JLT770

overwhelmed...pfff thats what happens when you procrastinate



Posted by: ProudAmerican

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmac572
Just figured I would post this...

For anyone who took the september 29th entry police exam, I spoke with a rep at the HRD and was told that their plan is to release all scores before the eligibility list is established so that no person will miss out on any job opporunity, so hurry up and get your last experience claims in!

also, if you took the sept 29th exam and your wondering why your HRD online account hasnt updated past the "scheduled" status... they are overwhelmed, she said the next update will be your score.

-JD
Outstanding! I can't wait to find out how well I did.



Posted by: COto50

I didn't see any 11 band listed on the sheet with the rest of the scores.



Posted by: redsox03

Im sure everyone on here will be number 1 on the list.



Posted by: LTSO16

Has anyone not received anything in the mail?



Posted by: JakeDodge

Quote:
Originally Posted by LTSO16
Has anyone not received anything in the mail?
Yeah, I havent got my mailing yet either



Posted by: Rocco39

Yep, got the letter(s) today, pretty standard stuff, reiterates what was said in the email, shows the banding and how that works and some other info too, nothing unusual. Now it's a waiting game again until the first or 2nd week of November, hopefully they'll be on time. The real deal comes when the lists are established, then we'll know for real what chance we have (or don't have).



Posted by: LTSO16

i finally have one of those "a little bird told me" items that everyone tosses out. Its along the lines that when the lists are made up for each town they will divide the bands up by veteran residents then residents, then non-resident veterans, then those who follow. so in theory, say a veteran resident in band 8 wont be called before anyone in band 9. Preference will be given above everyone else in your band. if thats true then that gives a little validity to the test and is the fairest ive heard so far



Posted by: Matt23

Just stumbled onto this website and it's pretty cool. This is where I stand in this whole process. I'm in group 9, I'm white, I'm a dude, I'm a non-vet, English is my only language, and I'm a non-resident. I live in Boston, but could not claim residency at the exam date-just moved here in January 2007.

The towns I put down are Bost, Worcester (though after trolling through this entire thread I'll probably change that), Lowell, and Springfield.

So it seems like I'll be pretty far down on the list.......which stinks.

Like all of you, I want this more than anything, but I'm not going to push the panic button yet. Only thing to do now is to continue to prepare for the next steps as if it's guarunteed.

I gather it's a long process, so i'm just a long for the ride.

There's my 2 cents.



Posted by: Foxy85

"I've heard" that the banding system is to make it more lenient for the Chief's to select people whom they think are MOST qualified. Therefore, and I'll say again....The Chief, or hiring person can skip anyone he damn well pleases, as he can render them "unqualified" and skip down the list.

So this is where I am wondering something....

If the Chief decides that He wants to hire the Town Selectman's son who scored in a band 7. Can the Chief pass over bands 8-10, deeming them "unqualified" and skip right to band 7 where he can pick the selectmans son? I wonder this, because there is no more appeals process for being "by-passed". I'm sure most Chiefs will just stick to hiring legitmately qualified people, but it opens the door up to politicing...



Posted by: HPD22

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy85
"I've heard" that the banding system is to make it more lenient for the Chief's to select people whom they think are MOST qualified. Therefore, and I'll say again....The Chief, or hiring person can skip anyone he damn well pleases, as he can render them "unqualified" and skip down the list.

So this is where I am wondering something....

If the Chief decides that He wants to hire the Town Selectman's son who scored in a band 7. Can the Chief pass over bands 8-10, deeming them "unqualified" and skip right to band 7 where he can pick the selectmans son? I wonder this, because there is no more appeals process for being "by-passed". I'm sure most Chiefs will just stick to hiring legitmately qualified people, but it opens the door up to politicing...
Nine times out of ten the Chief will take who he wants whether the candidates in front of "the chosen one" are qualified or not, As long as the candidate gets a card from Civil Service the Chief can get to him or her by passing over other people. HRD will usually approve whatever the town submits for by-pass reasons, they usually only review if there is an appeal filed. Just my 2 cents



Posted by: Rocco39

from LTSO16

"i finally have one of those "a little bird told me" items that everyone tosses out. Its along the lines that when the lists are made up for each town they will divide the bands up by veteran residents then residents, then non-resident veterans, then those who follow. so in theory, say a veteran resident in band 8 wont be called before anyone in band 9. Preference will be given above everyone else in your band. if thats true then that gives a little validity to the test and is the fairest ive heard so far"

Negative. I contacted CS and also looked at VET website when I was looking at my chances. The deal is that bands are as follows; Disabled Vet, Vets, Resident, non-resident. Within the DVets and Vets there are Residents and non Residents. They always pull from the Resident DVets and Resident Vets first. Then they pull from Residents, then if they need to, they go to non resident DVets and then non resident Vets and then plain old non-residents. As for the all important banding, they pull from the Resident DVET and VETs starting at 10 and working their way on down (9,8,7,6. etc) IF they don't have enough DVets or VEts to pull from the list for open slots, then they move to the Resident Non VEt list starting, again, at 10 on down (9,8,7 etc.) IF they still don't have enough of a pool to fill the open slots, then they move to the Non-Resident lists, starting again with DVets then Vets then all others in the same order as above based on the score bands.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy85
"I've heard" that the banding system is to make it more lenient for the Chief's to select people whom they think are MOST qualified. Therefore, and I'll say again....The Chief, or hiring person can skip anyone he damn well pleases, as he can render them "unqualified" and skip down the list.

So this is where I am wondering something....

If the Chief decides that He wants to hire the Town Selectman's son who scored in a band 7. Can the Chief pass over bands 8-10, deeming them "unqualified" and skip right to band 7 where he can pick the selectmans son? I wonder this, because there is no more appeals process for being "by-passed". I'm sure most Chiefs will just stick to hiring legitmately qualified people, but it opens the door up to politicing...
Foxy85 that is similar to what "I've heard".

If you turn it around though you can look at it from this perspective. Under the old rules, the hiring authorities were locked into who they could hire based solely on a numerically descending scale (the test score). So in order to have a solid shot at a job, you had to score at the top of scale. Then the department would start from 100 (or higher) and go down from there with little or no chance of possibly reaching good candidates with lower scores. Basically it took the flexibility from the departments by not letting them reach down the list without cause. The new banding system, though not perfect, now allows the hiring department to "REACH" down or pull from other candidates within the band rather than being stuck with choosing the higher scoring candidate just b/c, well they scored slightly better.



Posted by: LTSO16

Negative. I contacted CS and also looked at VET website when I was looking at my chances. The deal is that bands are as follows; Disabled Vet, Vets, Resident, non-resident. Within the DVets and Vets there are Residents and non Residents. They always pull from the Resident DVets and Resident Vets first. Then they pull from Residents, then if they need to, they go to non resident DVets and then non resident Vets and then plain old non-residents. As for the all important banding, they pull from the Resident DVET and VETs starting at 10 and working their way on down (9,8,7,6. etc) IF they don't have enough DVets or VEts to pull from the list for open slots, then they move to the Resident Non VEt list starting, again, at 10 on down (9,8,7 etc.) IF they still don't have enough of a pool to fill the open slots, then they move to the Non-Resident lists, starting again with DVets then Vets then all others in the same order as above based on the score bands

Alright i dont want to ignite the whole "vet" preference argument but my two cents are that they should band all those who scored in the same band together and go through a whole band from disabled vets to vets to residents and all the way down before they go to another band. I know i dont want a cop on the street who can only score a 2 on the exam (which is just passing) alright i hope this doesnt start the whole riot thing up again. i am for vet preference even though it may not seem like it. i just want it fair and balanced thats all



Posted by: Rocco39

Alright i dont want to ignite the whole "vet" preference argument but my two cents are that they should band all those who scored in the same band together and go through a whole band from disabled vets to vets to residents and all the way down before they go to another band. I know i dont want a cop on the street who can only score a 2 on the exam (which is just passing) alright i hope this doesnt start the whole riot thing up again. i am for vet preference even though it may not seem like it. i just want it fair and balanced thats all[/quote]

I understand what your saying. I know that a lot of folks on this forum aren't against us Vets, but want to get on the job just a much as we do and see Vet status as being given a edge or advantage. IF you banded it the way you suggest though it would kinda defeat the purpose of Vet status altogether.



Posted by: LTSO16

not necessarily because they would still have preference, just in the band in which they scored and wouldnt be able to jump over other bands. they are just at the top of their band which also adds more purpose the the test itself



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Posted by: MM1799

Thank god when I was taking tests I didn't have a forum to come on! Had I taken a test and read all the comments, I would've started learned chemistry to become a doctor! While I am sure everyone is trying to help all the hearsay/what you heard/rumors are probably freaking everyone out.

Everyone needs to relax. Many of you are in your 20s. If you're qualified and it doesn't happen this time, keep testing and it'll happen some time. Remember this is a LONG, LONG, LONG process. Dont start guessing who's gonna get on and who's not in October. Ya, MA is difficult to be a PO but look at everyone who is a PO now. We can't last forever

Back when I took the civil circus test I scored very well and was interviewed but the PD decided to pass on me and take someone else. I was pissed and figured that I better start looking for a desk job career. However I score high on the SP test and was able to go through the process. One door closed, another opened. Almost 20 years later and I couldn't imagine it any other way.

Sorry to rant but I just wanted to give everyone some positive experiences. Keep chugging along.



Posted by: Delta784

What MM1799 said.

Looking back on it, I was in total panic mode about getting a police job when I was hired at the ripe old age of.......22.

If you're determined to stay in Massachusetts along with the rest of us morons, your day will come. The best advice I can give is to not throw all your eggs in one basket....don't sit back and wait for a good score on the CS or MSP test.....apply and test EVERYWHERE; federal, campus, railroad, housing, whatever jobs you can apply for. You can always "upgrade" later.



Posted by: PBiddy35

http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=hrdtermi...ists&csid=Ehrd

For your order of cert. lists.



Posted by: JLT770

bad link



Posted by: PBiddy35

Sorry about that. If this doesn't work it's MA HRD site, under CS heading, Publications and Guides, Certification order of Lists.





Posted by: Rocco39

I agree with some of the older guys that recommend persistence when trying to get on the job. If you really want to be in LE then you need to try all avenues, not just here in MA with the CS. There are other options as well both in and out of the state. I was once a 20 something and now, some 15 years later and a sizable career outside of LE in rear view, I'm making this jump back in. PATIENCE! If you want it bad enough, keep trying and don't get discouraged, IF it isn't meant to be, you gotta know when to move on, there is life beyond LE. However, to get back on topic, the info that I've posted previously has all come from CS/Mass Gov (http://www.mass.gov/Ehrd/docs/cs/pub...sforonline.doc, HRD as well as CIS /Secretary of the Commonwealth's site http://www.sec.state.ma.us/cis/cisvet/vetempl.htm ) You can disagree, bitch and complain, and beg for change, but It is what it is. The explanation of banding, ordering of lists and preferences are what they are.



Posted by: wolf9848

What's the earliest you've guys have heard or gotten a card from a department after the List has been put out?



Posted by: L4G81

MM1799,

Thank you for being an optimist...it's nice to see that once and a while! I feel like everyone is so worried and nervous it's been more of a "glass is half full" concept. I like to believe that EVERYTHING happens for a reason and if it's any of our times for a door to open in what ever town/city we choose, then it is what it is. Your story of not becoming a reg PO and then getting accepted to MSP is certainly encouraging...and it happened for a reason.





Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
Thank god when I was taking tests I didn't have a forum to come on! Had I taken a test and read all the comments, I would've started learned chemistry to become a doctor! While I am sure everyone is trying to help all the hearsay/what you heard/rumors are probably freaking everyone out.

Everyone needs to relax. Many of you are in your 20s. If you're qualified and it doesn't happen this time, keep testing and it'll happen some time. Remember this is a LONG, LONG, LONG process. Dont start guessing who's gonna get on and who's not in October. Ya, MA is difficult to be a PO but look at everyone who is a PO now. We can't last forever

Back when I took the civil circus test I scored very well and was interviewed but the PD decided to pass on me and take someone else. I was pissed and figured that I better start looking for a desk job career. However I score high on the SP test and was able to go through the process. One door closed, another opened. Almost 20 years later and I couldn't imagine it any other way.

Sorry to rant but I just wanted to give everyone some positive experiences. Keep chugging along.




Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
What's the earliest you've guys have heard or gotten a card from a department after the List has been put out?
Some people will be getting cards the first day the list is certified.

Some people just might make the Plymouth Academy that is currently on float status. (Was supposed to start December 10th but doesn't look too promising.)

It all comes down to the needs of each individual department.



Posted by: NBPD

I have a feeling plymouth is going to start for the new year after the holidays.



Posted by: rm91304

im just wondering if there are any guys from the wareham area that r going to be on the list, and if so what r ur scores.



Posted by: wryman

Quote:
Originally Posted by wolf9848
What's the earliest you've guys have heard or gotten a card from a department after the List has been put out?
It all depends IF your towns of choice are hiring, and how many...Then the Officer in charge of hiring must submit a letter to the town selectman and or city counsel...Then the selectman must approve the request, sign it, send it back to the dept.
Most towns a cities meetings are backed up with other shit. Hiring new officers is the last thing they are worried about. Then hiring dept. sends the request to the Civil Circus for a certified list of canidates. It is a long, long process. I would'nt expect to receive a card in the mail the first week the list comes out. Especially with the Circus taking their sweet ass time...As for getting into the academy for Dec. or Jan., HIGHLY DOUBT IT!!!



Posted by: FordMustang

It's very simple if you want to work LE and do real LE. Move out of mass



Posted by: COto50

FYI...Plymouth Academy not on float status. Still 3 weeks left to fill it before it hits float. I also hear it is pretty close to being full.



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Oh hey guys, I had contacted someone at my local department and I actually got a response. I was told that it is way too premature at this time to determine how many officers may or may not be hired off of this list. Basically I was told what I sort of knew already, and that was to be patient. I would not hear about any interviews or background checks for quite some time, perhaps a year or so. I was recommended to take every test I can from outside cities. So that is some factual information I received, not very promising, but you just never know.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by FordMustang
It's very simple if you want to work LE and do real LE. Move out of mass
Yes, there is no "real" law enforcement being conducted in Massachusetts.



Posted by: Rocco39

"It all depends IF your towns of choice are hiring, and how many...Then the Officer in charge of hiring must submit a letter to the town selectman and or city counsel...Then the selectman must approve the request, sign it, send it back to the dept.
Most towns a cities meetings are backed up with other shit. Hiring new officers is the last thing they are worried about. Then hiring dept. sends the request to the Civil Circus for a certified list of candidates. It is a long, long process. I would'nt expect to receive a card in the mail the first week the list comes out. Especially with the Circus taking their sweet ass time...As for getting into the academy for Dec. or Jan., HIGHLY DOUBT IT!!!"

Yeow! a little bit of that ole "northeast negativity" detected.
Anywho, some departments are probably waiting on the new list to hire and have already received preliminary authorization to fill open vacancies once the new list is established.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by wryman
It all depends IF your towns of choice are hiring, and how many...Then the Officer in charge of hiring must submit a letter to the town selectman and or city counsel...Then the selectman must approve the request, sign it, send it back to the dept.
Most towns a cities meetings are backed up with other shit. Hiring new officers is the last thing they are worried about. Then hiring dept. sends the request to the Civil Circus for a certified list of canidates. It is a long, long process. I would'nt expect to receive a card in the mail the first week the list comes out. Especially with the Circus taking their sweet ass time...As for getting into the academy for Dec. or Jan., HIGHLY DOUBT IT!!!
There will be people preparing for the academy off the November 1st list before you even open your Christmas presents.

Quote:
Originally Posted by COto50
FYI...Plymouth Academy not on float status. Still 3 weeks left to fill it before it hits float. I also hear it is pretty close to being full.
I have instructors telling me it's not. Where are you getting your info from?

But yes, 30 days prior is the magic date.



Posted by: wryman

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
There will be people preparing for the academy off the November 1st list before you even open your Christmas presents.



I have instructors telling me it's not. Where are you getting your info from?

But yes, 30 days prior is the magic date.
GOOD LUCK!!!! You honestly think within 30 days hiring depts. will conduct the interview, background, medical and psych checks...oh and dont forget about the PAT test. Some, mabey most canidates still need their Class A LTC.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by wryman
GOOD LUCK!!!! You honestly think within 30 days hiring depts. will conduct the interview, background, medical and psych checks...oh and dont forget about the PAT test. Some, mabey most canidates still need their Class A LTC.
And that my friend is the reason I am saying there will be no December 10th class in Plymouth.

I also said by Christmas people will be preparing.

Not first hand knowledge, just what the instructors are saying.

Departments are being left with a choice. Scrape the bottom of the barrel or wait unit November 1st and get a new list. Some will be opting for the wait.

The interesting thing is that people will end up getting hired off both lists.

I can guarantee you that if Plymouth doesn't launch on Dec. 10th, there will be people getting cards the first week of November and be in an academy at the beginning of the year.



Posted by: 94c

Here's hoping someone with your vast knowledge is sitting across from me at the interview table.



Posted by: kevindubay00

Quote:
GOOD LUCK!!!! You honestly think within 30 days hiring depts. will conduct the interview, background, medical and psych checks...oh and dont forget about the PAT test. Some, mabey most canidates still need their Class A LTC.
Not that it really makes much of a differance and I agree with you that it is still gonna take forever and a day, but when I got my Class A LTC and went for all lawfull purposes When asked why I said because I plan on becoming a police officer I was told that you don't even need a LTC to carry your issued weapon that you carry under your badge



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by kevindubay00
Not that it really makes much of a differance and I agree with you that it is still gonna take forever and a day, but when I got my Class A LTC and went for all lawfull purposes When asked why I said because I plan on becoming a police officer I was told that you don't even need a LTC to carry your issued weapon that you carry under your badge
99% of the Chiefs are now requiring a LTC.

This requirement unseals sealed records



Posted by: redsox03

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
99% of the Chiefs are now requiring a LTC.

This requirement unseals sealed records
Ahhhhh smart.



Posted by: Rocco39

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
99% of the Chiefs are now requiring a LTC.

This requirement unseals sealed records
I Love it! You can almost hear the audible gasps coming from the peanut gallery who thought they were gonna slip one past the goalie! I think you just crushed a whole segment of this forum who, in they're youthful exuberance pulled some bone head move as a teenager and thought that b/c the incident was sealed no one would ever know..........
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Sure am glad I've already got my Class A LTC !!



Posted by: kevindubay00

Well I know I'm gtg then cause I got the class A LTC

Not that I was worried anyhow



Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

OH my god my next store friend had my mail for a while. She was on vacation. I just got my score. 99. Does anyone know if Chelsea is hiring? That is my home town. HOLLA BACK.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
OH my god my next store friend had my mail for a while. She was on vacation. I just got my score. 99. Does anyone know if Chelsea is hiring? That is my home town. HOLLA BACK.
You may be out of luck.

They recently merged with East Boston.



Posted by: COto50

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
OH my god my next store friend had my mail for a while. She was on vacation. I just got my score. 99. Does anyone know if Chelsea is hiring? That is my home town. HOLLA BACK.
Do you mean 9? There were no scores on the tests only bands.



Posted by: screamineagle

what is a next store friend?



Posted by: wryman

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
And that my friend is the reason I am saying there will be no December 10th class in Plymouth.

I also said by Christmas people will be preparing.

Not first hand knowledge, just what the instructors are saying.

Departments are being left with a choice. Scrape the bottom of the barrel or wait unit November 1st and get a new list. Some will be opting for the wait.

The interesting thing is that people will end up getting hired off both lists.

I can guarantee you that if Plymouth doesn't launch on Dec. 10th, there will be people getting cards the first week of November and be in an academy at the beginning of the year.
I agree...With the announcement of "On or AROUND Nov. 9th" from the Circus, another words who the F knows. I'm sure if depts. are that deperate, they will have to scrape from the bottom...It would be a pleasure to interview with 94C...



Posted by: 5-0

Quote:
Originally Posted by screamineagle
what is a next store friend?

I was wondering the same thing.



Posted by: 94c

you guys never heard of someone living nextstore?

P.S.- you have to say it fast.



Posted by: 5-0

That should be a new CS question:

Bill lives at 1 Main St. Dispatch gets a call from Bill saying that there is a robbery next store. Where should dispatch send you?



Posted by: JLT770

yeah i always thought it was nextstore growing up, i mean it made sense in commercial settings right?

anyway, should i be trying to go for my LTC now? i mean will "planning to become a PO" be a legit reason to get the gun? what if im not taken off any list? will i be denied? sorry to completely go off topic, just wanted to know.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
yeah i always thought it was nextstore growing up, i mean it made sense in commercial settings right?

anyway, should i be trying to go for my LTC now? i mean will "planning to become a PO" be a legit reason to get the gun? what if im not taken off any list? will i be denied? sorry to completely go off topic, just wanted to know.
It's not considered a legitimate reason. Unless there are suitability issues, you would get one anyway.



Posted by: JLT770

well i was told LTCs are near impossible to get. was i misinformed? and what would a legitimate reason be?



Posted by: mikemac64

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
well i was told LTCs are near impossible to get. was i misinformed? and what would a legitimate reason be?
Spending too much time a Police related web sites. I imagine you could get that overturned at District Court though.



Posted by: kevindubay00

It is not hard to get a LTC at all. Depending on where you live you might not get all lawfull purposes but just about anyone can get hunting and target.

All you have to do is take a safety course and do an interview with the police

The only difference is hunting and target you are only supposed to be transporting your weapon to and from the shooting range or hunting.

Your local PD will have all the info.



Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
well i was told LTCs are near impossible to get. was i misinformed? and what would a legitimate reason be?
The City of Boston WILL NOT issue a Class A LTC for All Lawful Purposes, even if you work for another PD, municipal or campus. They will either issue it with a restriction of "employment" or "sporting & target".



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

This discussion will NEVER CHANGE. How many years has it been that this board has been in existence and people are STILL asking the SAME redundant questions?

So, anyhoos, I got a 9.

Hi guys and gals, nice to see you again.



Posted by: timothy135

I'm a resident of Franklin and scored a 10 on the most recent civil service exam. I am wondering what are some other towns which will be hiring a good amount of non residents.



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Yeah that is a tough question that I have asked myself many times as well. I know there is even less chance of this scenario ever happening, but if anyone knows as well of any towns/cities north of Boston, that would be beneficial.



Posted by: CHICwithBADGE

I meant 9. Thank you. Does anyone know if Chelsea's hiring off list or just promoting reserves? Holla back.



Posted by: wildbill0351

Hello, i got a 9 on the civil service and am a disabled veteran but no residency. Can anyone shed some light on my chances of even getting looked at?
Thanks good luck to all



Posted by: chileanspion

It seems that everyone got a 9 or 10. Tough getting on anywhere, must be a boatload of ties throughout the state.



Posted by: Rocco39

Quote:
Originally Posted by wildbill0351
Hello, i got a 9 on the civil service and am a disabled veteran but no residency. Can anyone shed some light on my chances of even getting looked at?
Thanks good luck to all
??? Are you eligible for residency in a Mass city/town or are you from out of state? I ask b/c a 9 D-Vet with residency status is, IMHO, a shoe in for an opening.



Posted by: wildbill0351

I live in NH so i dont have residency in any town so.... may have to wait and see



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Any rumors of classes in Boston being put on soon?



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHICwithBADGE
OH my god my next store friend had my mail for a while. She was on vacation. I just got my score. 99. Does anyone know if Chelsea is hiring? That is my home town. HOLLA BACK.
This is the fakest profile on here that I've ever seen. Definitely comes from the "badger bagger" crew, or whatever that troll's name was.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

JUST GIVE US THE LIST!!!!!!!
For the love of all people big and small give us the list!!!
Come Civil Service I have faith in you



Posted by: AdamJ1984

This is probably an easy answer for some of you, but on the list of civil service towns/cities, what is the difference between Police Consent Decree Communities and Police Non-Consent Decree Communities?



Posted by: Foxy85

It has something to do with minorities and preference...not sure of the exact meaning of it though



Posted by: COto50

the consent decree communites basically state that an appointing authority must interview one minority for every 3 nonminorites.



Posted by: JaneDoe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Officer Dunngeon
This is the fakest profile on here that I've ever seen. Definitely comes from the "badger bagger" crew, or whatever that troll's name was.
c'mon, you know you want that for back up! hah riiiiiight!



Posted by: nitetrain

I took the 9/29/2007 exam and my score is posted today on the HRD site.

Got a 9 vet.

Good Luck!!

Bri



Posted by: jmac572

9/29/2007 exam here too!

got a 9 vet status

good job guys... the list should be soon to follow, i know they were waiting for the 9/29 exam results before completing the list, good luck



Posted by: d02461

9/29/07 test..... scored a 10 non-vet



Posted by: JLT770

wasnt the 9/29 exam for vets who missed the test because of military duties? im confused



Posted by: Rocco39

That's what I thought at first but I think it had to do with Deval's change in the minimum age requirement for entry level officers.



Posted by: bgwin

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Originally Posted by JLT770
wasnt the 9/29 exam for vets who missed the test because of military duties? im confused
It was also for college students that had commencement on the same day as the test. They needed a letter from the President of the School stating they would be walking in commencement in order to take the make-up test in September.



Posted by: ProudAmerican

I took the make-up exam on 9/29/07. I received a 9, and I'm also a combat vet...it seems like everyone thus far has gotten a 9 or above. Is that a concern to anyone else besides me?



Posted by: jmac572

Well, if by "everyone" you mean the fifty, or so, people on this board that have posted their scores, then no, i dont think it should be a concern. Remember there are 43 cities and 308 towns in mass, so thats about one person for every 6 or 7 towns that took the last test and belong to this forum, lol.

But seriously, there are many, many more people in massachusetts that took the exam and didnt receive a 9 or 10. you're taking the scores of a very small percentage of people that took the exam, which happen to be members of a forum pertaining to law enforcement, and applying it to everyone's scores in the state.. it seems only right that members here would get higher scores than many people because most of the people that belong to this forum are either a police officer, or are trying extremely hard to be one. the truth is, the vast majority of the people that take this exam take it as an "option" for one of their careers, or take it just for the sake of taking it, and there's more than a handfull of people that fail it flat out. So no, I dont think you have much to worry about... you can claim residency(i'm assuming), you received a 9, and your a vet... you are in a very good spot right now as far as the possibility of getting a phone call goes. good luck



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Very true jmac, a very close friend of mine took the exam with me and is one of those people who "might" want a career in LE. When he found out his score, and then mine, which was higher, he said he did pretty good considering he never took a test like it before. Being the friend that I am, I said yes, good job, but did he fail to remember this was the first time I took the exam as well? Maybe he just knows that this line of profession is one I constantly talk about and dream that someday I will get my chance. A far cry from someone who "might" want to do this.



Posted by: Dave978

I received a 10 in the Exam and I am a combat Vet.

I actually havent heard anyone that took the exam with me to get anything higher then an 8 but we will see when the list comes out so who cares anyway.



Posted by: NytroCop

I got a 9 non-vet. I doubt that'll help me in a city like Taunton but we'll see. I'm about to graduate from the DOC academy so I'm going to sit tight and hold my ground for now.

AJ



Posted by: Redleg13D

Quote:
Originally Posted by bgwin
It was also for college students that had commencement on the same day as the test. They needed a letter from the President of the School stating they would be walking in commencement in order to take the make-up test in September.
This is true. I personally chose to take the exam instead of going to graduation (Westfield State) thinking that at least the scores would be out during the summer, of course I was wrong and way off, but, at the same time I felt my career was more important that the graduation.



Posted by: KSFOLEY04

The score of 10 is a 97-100 on the exam and so on down the line. If you click on your score while in SOARIS it will explain the whole scoring system.
The banded score is not based on being a vet or not so if you got a 10 thats the best you could have done and being a vet just puts you one step more ahead of the others.



Posted by: AdamJ1984

Yeah there is an "A" band that pertains to the veteran's preference, residency, and so on.



Posted by: mikeyv7712

Anyone hear if the list got established on Nov. 1st?
If so anyone know if the towns and cities got a hold of it?



Posted by: Boston24

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712
Anyone hear if the list got established on Nov. 1st?
If so anyone know if the towns and cities got a hold of it?
Yea..I talked to HRD on Thursday and she said that the list was currently being made...certified on the 8th...posted on your account the 9th. Seems like there wont be a delay with this. GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!! Watch this week be the longest..lol!



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712
If so anyone know if the towns and cities got a hold of it?
They won't get a hold of it unless they ask for it. They only send a requisition when they are about to hire.



Posted by: WaterPistola

I'm glad my town of residency is going to hire 3-4 off the list, with up to 10 in the next couple of years



Posted by: mikeyv7712

anyone here anything about Boston?
I heard a class in the spring



Posted by: Foxy85

Anybody heard anything on Worcester? I know they're going through budget issues, and their ;ast class was the smallest yet at only 14....



Posted by: COto50

Worcester just got 400,000 from the state to add officers. They are planning on bumping their class from 18 to 24/28 recruits. It hasn't been scheduled because they need to select 10 from this new list.



Posted by: SargeLorenzo

10 D-Vet, my residency town has no money to hire anyone...the wait continues



Posted by: Rocco39

Anyone know if Plymouth is going to be hiring?



Posted by: xterra55

Anyone know if Quincy or Brockton will be doing any hiring from the new list



Posted by: KSFOLEY04

Has anyone heard if any departments are hiring now??? So we all can keep up!



Posted by: Officer Dunngeon

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