| Originally Posted by SinePari Several discrepancies here. First off, they are under State Department contract, which means they must follow all of their SOPs, and are subject to the same rules of engagement as the DSS agents. When the Defense Department handed the keys to the country back to the Iraqis in 2004, the technical state of the mission went from military to diplomatic with the stroke of a pen, regardless on the threat. Subsequently the State Department handed over to the Private Military Companies (PMCs) an SOP manual as thick as "War and Peace". Second, the company is in bed with just about every Congressman and Senator in the beltway, and the contracts were a virtual no-bid award. This means they will either continue to operate under the same BW name based on pressure from the US Congress, or a new name altogether. I ran the gauntlet every day and we took hits and casualties. Anyone who's standing around when a car bomb or an IED goes off, is probably not armed and the desired effect is chaos in addition to carnage. The haze of war during an IED attack is ten times what you read about. I'll be the first to admit that EVERY company over there has less-than-qualified people in their SUVs armed to the max. But without the PMCs the State Department has no where near enough DSS agents to provide security for the mission. Sooooo, pick your poison. |

| Originally Posted by MSP75 Everything in OEF/OIF had been outsourced. As a soldier, I felt the "contractors" were treated more valuable by CJTF (180 at the time) than the volunteers who took an oath for the USA. |
| Originally Posted by mikemac64 Immediate Action Drills. Any boot knows that. They teach it (or taught it) in boot camp for christ sakes. Someone shoots or blows you up, you are supposed to shoot and blow them up back. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari In the Personal Protection Detail world, the main response is to GET OFF THE "X". Protect the principal, move your wounded and dead with covering fire, and keep moving. I know FM 7-8 teaches you to assault through the kill zone, so when you become a civilian protection agent, you must change your paradigm on how things are done. |

| Originally Posted by kwflatbed US resumes Blackwater convoys in Iraq By KATARINA KRATOVAC, Associated Press Writer BAGHDAD - American convoys under the protection of Blackwater USA resumed on Friday, four days after the U.S. Embassy suspended all land travel by its diplomats and other civilian officials in response to the alleged killing of civilians by the security firm. |
| Originally Posted by SinePari I hate to brag but...I told you so |
| Originally Posted by justanotherparatrooper Didnt doubt you for a second brother but I'll buy you a beer next time I see you anyways |
| Originally Posted by SinePari You got it. Sam Adams Octoberfest would be great. |
Thanks for the reminder. Octoberfest is in season!
| Originally Posted by SOT $100-500 depending |
| Originally Posted by kwflatbed "There is simply no excuse for the de facto legal immunity for tens of thousands of individuals working in countries" on behalf of the United States, said Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee, D-Texas. |


Wire Service | Originally Posted by kwflatbed ''They are good, solid intelligent Americans. They're good people,'' Sweeney said. ''They're protecting U.S. diplomats.'' |
| Too bad the $$$ has gone down the toilet and they're getting less qualified applicants these days. |
| How bad have they lowered? Today I saw two guys in Charlotte at two different locations with BW shirts. They both looked about 18-21 yoa...thought it was odd. |
| Posers.. Just like the chumps walking around in general public wearing SF, SOF, SWAT garb... Wannabe's... |
| ..and thats what I figured but did not know Blackwater even had commercial merchandise. |
, wishing they could leave the camp and go do a REAL mission. Missions to fun places like Sadr City, Hillah, and about 10 BIAP runs on a daily basis, all the while trying not to end up on a website wearing an orange jump suit, with some dude holding a sword behind you.
