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Posted by: Macop

Has anyone heard of H.R 980. I was looking at the IBPO newsflyer and to my suprise H.R 980 a bill which will allow colletive barganing in all 50 states has passed the house. It started in Feb and just passed in July. I am suprised I did not hear it about sooner, nice to see our Brother and Sister Public Saftey Officers in other states who never had Collective barganing like we do will now have the chance at it. Do a search and look at the You tube video of Politions backing it. Its a victory for us all.



Posted by: Wolfman

House Approves Bill to Extend Collective Bargaining Rights to Public Safety Workers in all 50 States
July 23, 2007
WASHINGTON, DC -- By an overwhelming, bipartisan vote of 314-97, the House of Representatives last week approved legislation to guarantee the rights of public safety workers in all 50 states to collectively bargain for better wages, benefits and working conditions.
“The brave men and women who risk their lives each day and serve as our first line of defense against medical emergencies, criminals, natural disasters, and terrorist attacks deserve the right to bargain with their employers,” said Rep. George Miller (D-CA), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. “Collective bargaining rights will enable rank-and-file public safety workers not only to improve their own working conditions, but also to have more input into the day-to-day operations of their departments.”
“Our firefighters and police officers risk their lives to keep us safe,” said Rep. Dale Kildee (D-MI), the sponsor of the legislation. “Yet there are some states in this country that deny them the basic right to discuss workplace issues with their employers - a right many Americans have. At the very least, they should be allowed to negotiate for wages, hours and safe working conditions.”
“Today's House passage of the Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act of 2007 marks a historic day in America,” said Rep. Rob Andrews (D-NJ), chairman of the Subcommittee on Health, Employment, Labor and Pensions. “H.R. 980 extends the basic right to discuss workplace issues with their employers to our firefighters, law enforcement officers, emergency medical services personnel and corrections officers.”
Approximately 20 states do not fully protect the collective bargaining rights of firefighters, police officers, corrections officers and emergency medical service workers. Two states - Virginia and North Carolina - prohibit public safety employees from collectively bargaining at all.
The Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act (H.R. 980) would provide basic labor protections for state and local public safety workers, including:



Posted by: Barbrady

Thats huge for NC.



Posted by: Macop

Thats huge for all states that dont have collective barganing. I am sure it will change things alot in some states. I will now reconsider a career in a southen state once this gets finalized.



Posted by: pahapoika

thought all those southern folks hated unions and had the "right to work' laws to keep them out.

glad to see this bill pass , it's about time.



Posted by: Macop

I would imagine the folks with the gold badges hate the unions even more. And to my suprise it is the Public Safety sector that has no Unions as we do. I have a buddie in VA who was telling me that other people have unions and the right to collective bargin, just not the Police.



Posted by: Barbrady

Hopefully soon we will get Union. Raleigh is the only (NC) department I know that has representation(Teamsters). Without the 980 it does no good to have union with right to work law in place.



Posted by: soup

Bush is expected to VETO it if it reaches his desk.



Posted by: Macop

I find that very hard to believe. Where did you get that information?



Posted by: soup

DO YOU THINK HE'S COME AROUND?
2/17/00
President Bush Attacks Organized Labor
Bush attacked organized labor Saturday, issuing orders effectively reducing how much money unions can spend for political activities and opening up government contracts to non-union bidding.
At his central Texas ranch this weekend, Bush issued four executive orders that labor union supporters denounced as a "giant step backward." The moves are a reversal of policy of the previous Democratic administration and an attack on organized labor, which vehemently opposed the orders.
Republicans have long sought to limit the influence of organized labor on political campaigns. The labor movement has been a prime source of get-out-the-vote drives for Democratic political campaigns, including that of Vice President Gore last year.
The orders drew a sharp rebuke from one Democratic lawmaker. "It is meant to have a chilling effect on the ability of working men and women to organize and bargain collectively for decent wages and benefits, and basic job security," Sen. Paul Wellstone of Minnesota said in a statement. "This is no way to set the tone for bipartisanship," he added.
While Bush's orders were limited to federal contracts, he would like to take it a step further as part of campaign finance reform legislation. He would like to include a provision giving all union workers the right to not have their dues spent for political activities.
Bobby L. Harnage, national president of the American Federation of Government Employees, called Bush's action "hasty, foolhardy" and "a giant step backward. In one day, President Bush has torn apart what has taken years to craft -- the development of a government workplace that is people-driven, highly flexible, creative and responsive to the changing needs of the American people."





Posted by: Macop

Wow, that is very disappointing.



Posted by: soup

Who knows, he may sign it ,but historically the republican party has been anti-labor. The republican Presidential candidates are denouncing the Democrats "ties" to organized labor. Even if Bush doesn't sign a federal law, individual states are passing similar legislation. Deval Patrick just signed a law making it easier for unions to be formed. I don't agree with everything he says or does, but he is very good for unions. A UNION MEMBER THAT VOTES REPUBLICAN MAY BE HELPING THEMSELF, BUT THEY ARE HURTING THEIR UNION IN THE LONG RUN.



Posted by: Macop

Yes, I have thought about that. But I just can't see myself voting for one of these puke liberals for president.



Posted by: soup

I've been trying to follow up and see where this bill stands. What I have seen dosn't look too promising. The following is a story fom June 2007.



Senate Republicans



Los Angeles Times
Jun 27, 2007 12:00 AM EDT

Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked organized labor's top legislative priority this year — a bill designed to make it easier for unions to organize workers at nonunion workplaces.

No issue splits the parties more starkly than those involving organized labor, and this vote was no exception: Democrats and two independents stood behind labor, and among the Republicans, only Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania broke ranks.

The resulting tally — 51-48 — left the Democrats nine votes short of the 60 they needed to cut off debate in the Senate and bring the bill to a vote.

Unions and their supporters in Congress, deploring the outcome, portrayed the bill as pitting the middle class against the rich.

Check this out.




http://www.aflcio.org/issues/bushwat...08Analysis.pdf



Posted by: Macop

ALL ACTIONS: 2/12/2007: Referred to the House Committee on Education and Labor. 6/5/2007: Referred to the Subcommittee on Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions. 6/5/2007: Subcommittee Hearings Held. 6/20/2007: Committee Consideration and Mark-up Session Held. 6/20/2007: Ordered to be Reported (Amended) by the Yeas and Nays: 42 - 1. 7/13/2007 4:21pm: Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Education and Labor. H. Rept. 110-232. 7/13/2007 4:21pm: Placed on the Union Calendar, Calendar No. 143. 7/17/2007 10:35am: Mr. Kildee moved to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended. 7/17/2007 10:35am: Considered under suspension of the rules. (consideration: CR H7859-7866) 7/17/2007 11:12am: At the conclusion of debate, the Yeas and Nays were demanded and ordered. Pursuant to the provisions of clause 8, rule XX, the Chair announced that further proceedings on the motion would be postponed. 7/17/2007 12:07pm: Considered as unfinished business. (consideration: CR H7871-7872) 7/17/2007 12:32pm: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 314 - 97 (Roll no. 633). (text: CR H7859-7861) 7/17/2007 12:32pm: Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection. 7/18/2007: Received in the Senate. 7/20/2007: Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time. 7/20/2007: Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 275.

Well here is the latest time line, couldnt find any information in regards to when it may come across Bush's desk.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macop
ALL ACTIONS: 2/12/2007: Referred to the House Committee on Education and Labor. 6/5/2007: Referred to the Subcommittee on Health, Employment, Labor, and Pensions. 6/5/2007: Subcommittee Hearings Held. 6/20/2007: Committee Consideration and Mark-up Session Held. 6/20/2007: Ordered to be Reported (Amended) by the Yeas and Nays: 42 - 1. 7/13/2007 4:21pm: Reported (Amended) by the Committee on Education and Labor. H. Rept. 110-232. 7/13/2007 4:21pm: Placed on the Union Calendar, Calendar No. 143. 7/17/2007 10:35am: Mr. Kildee moved to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended. 7/17/2007 10:35am: Considered under suspension of the rules. (consideration: CR H7859-7866) 7/17/2007 11:12am: At the conclusion of debate, the Yeas and Nays were demanded and ordered. Pursuant to the provisions of clause 8, rule XX, the Chair announced that further proceedings on the motion would be postponed. 7/17/2007 12:07pm: Considered as unfinished business. (consideration: CR H7871-7872) 7/17/2007 12:32pm: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill, as amended Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 314 - 97 (Roll no. 633). (text: CR H7859-7861) 7/17/2007 12:32pm: Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection. 7/18/2007: Received in the Senate. 7/20/2007: Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time. 7/20/2007: Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 275.

Well here is the latest time line, couldnt find any information in regards to when it may come across Bush's desk.
Ma"cop";

Why do you refuse to answer my question as to where you work?

http://www.masscops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39157

What's the deal, buddy? Mall security? CMPSA? Garden variety whacker?



Posted by: Macop

Anyone have any new information on this?



Posted by: Loyal

keep in mind that democ rats are a polic e officer's nemesis - liberals are no friend of police - I'm voting Republican





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