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Posted by: SJPDM92

Harvard University Police is currently accepting applications for the position of police officer. They have posted 14 PO positions. 3 Patrol Sgt. positions. 1 CID Sgt. position.
1. Go to www.jobs.harvard.edu.
2. Scroll down to the Central Administration section.
3. Highlight Harvard University Police Department.
4. Click search.

FOLLOW the directions!!! It has not been posted on the department's website, but it will be shortly. Good luck to all!


Posted by: mechanixman

Is it true that Harvard and MIT Police, when they can't fill their paid details, they call the Middlesex Sheriff's Department instead of Cambridge Police?

Do they not like the Cambridge Police Department?


Posted by: Mitpo62

That sure is alot of positions. Did someone take a broom to the place again?


Posted by: JLT770

holy...14 PO positions? unheard of for a smaller dept, Mitpo you're probably right


Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

When I was in the academy I had an instructor from HUPD. He had told me that HUPD was going to be hiring alot of cops due to expansion of the university and soem type of research stuff going on there.


Posted by: SJPDM92

There is no broom action going on. FightingIrish is correct. The Chief was able to get the funding to hire 14 due to the University's expansion into the Allston area. When it is all said and done (about 50 years from now), the Allston campus will be 10 times the size of the campus in Cambridge. As far as the Sheriff's getting details over the Cambridge Police.....IT IS NOT TRUE!!! Cambridge and Boston are always first call on HUPD's list when a detail cannot get filled. Cambridge will reciprocate by offering details to MIT and HUPD that they cannot fill. The Middlesex Sheriff's are called only when CPD can not take a HUPD detail because they are too busy with their own work. There is also a lot more to the story, but this is not the thread for that. HUPD is a great department and is growing. The only people that have left in recent memory are doing so by their own accord, whether its due to retirement or to work for their hometown departments. The big broom was brought out that one time and not since.


Posted by: JLT770

that's really good to know. do you know what area of allston? im guessing near the stadium? (if thats allston)


Posted by: SJPDM92

If you go to www.allston.harvard.edu it will give you a pretty good overview of what is going to happen over there. Its amazing. Spend some time on the site. It has an artist's rendition of what it will eventually look like in the end.


Posted by: Pacman

So is it true they broomed out a bunch of Lt's without prior notice? In a closed door meeting where they had to lock up thier sidearms first?


Posted by: copper24

Do they send through the munciple academy?


Posted by: mikeyv7712

Hey does anyone know the pay for Harvard pd?
also do they have a union?
thanks


Posted by: Macop

Yes they do.


Posted by: ratwatcher

They do go to a municiple academy.. They have a total of 70 Officers who patrol Boston [The Medical school across from Mission Hill], Allston/Brighton[near the stadium for the Business School] a lot of Cambridge and Somerville where the main campus is in Harvard Square and any property that Harvard Owns including animal testing sites in Southborogh.. They are sworn deputies in Middlesex and Suffolk counties and sworn Special State Police.. Ton of details and a good job..


Posted by: mechanixman

Do they have arrest powers and can they stop cars for violations in Boston?


Posted by: Massreturnee

Will they hire out-state officers with an MPTC approved academy?


Posted by: mechanixman

What is MPTC


Posted by: mikeyv7712

anyone know the pay?
thanks


Posted by: mpd61

Quote:
Originally Posted by mechanixman
Do they have arrest powers and can they stop cars for violations in Boston?
No, Police officers sworn as Deputy sheriffs in two (2) counties and as special state police would not be expected to have any arrest powers. =D>


Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpd61
No, Police officers sworn as Deputy sheriffs in two (2) counties and as special state police would not be expected to have any arrest powers. =D>
Here are the duties and requirements off the job posting

Duties And Responsibilities Must work with members of the University community and develop relationships and partnerships to carry out team and organizational goals. Applies problem solving-skills to address issues in the community. Under the supervision of a Sergeant or higher ranking officer, patrols assigned areas of Harvard University to protect life and property and to maintain a secure campus environment by assuring compliance with laws, rules and regulations. Patrols campus buildings and adjacent areas on foot, on bicycle and/or in cruisers; responds to and investigates crimes or other incidents; when necessary, retains or arrests suspects, provides assistance to courts and district attorneys offices in the prosecution of cases. Guards against trespass, theft, damage to property and injury to individuals by diligent observation during patrol. Controls crowds; provides personal protection when required; investigates complaints and suspicious activity; mediates disputes; inspects grounds, buildings, fire lanes for compliance with safety standards; may make arrests, search prisoners, restrain violent persons, transport persons under arrest or restraints; preserves crime scenes and fire sites; administers first aid. Prepares thorough and accurate incident reports, investigative reports and follows-up when warranted.

so does the may mean probably not?


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by mechanixman
Do they have arrest powers and can they stop cars for violations in Boston?
1) Yes

2) No

Quote:
Originally Posted by mechanixman
What is MPTC
Municipal Police Training Committee, the new name for the Criminal Justice Training Council;

http://www.mass.gov/mptc


Posted by: mpd61

[quote=JLT770]so does the may mean probably not?[/quote]

Ahh...What the devil are you trying to ask?

If it's what I think, you need to look at the blue words again. Then think of one more word..."sarcasm". Perhaps then you'll understand better. Good luck!



Posted by: JLT770

=-/ been a long night sorry


Posted by: mikeyv7712

does anyone now the pay rate for harvard pd officers???
thanks


Posted by: Macop

Go to the Harvard web site and read the Union contract.


Posted by: mechanixman

Is the MPTC like a college? Can you pay your way through or does a city/town do that for you? Instead of college, should I just go there? Will it make it easier to get into a non-civil service department like Concord or Carlise? Thank you.


Posted by: HB7220PD

They send you to the MBTA Academy!

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyv7712
does anyone now the pay rate for harvard pd officers???
thanks
Most officers with Base pay, departmental Overtime, degree's and Details make about 90,000 or more.


Posted by: RCPD33

Harvard University is one of the top College Police jobs in the area. Good group of guys that know their stuff.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

Roger, you are TOO kind (and too quick to use a blanket answer. Hee hee hee)


Posted by: Foxy85

Do they get to carry guns and handcuffs?




LOL


Posted by: ironclaw

HUPD is the best hidden secret in all of Law Enforcement. The pay is great and the bennies are great. No heavy lifting and plenty of details and overtime.


Posted by: DoD102

OK....please bear with this stupid question from a guy west of 495. Ready? Here we go. What city is Harvard in?...........I KNOW, I KNOW!! Stay out west!!! Blah...Blah....Blah.... LOL

I drive from Greenfield to Bedford now. Obviously it'll be just as far, but I'm trying to figure out how much and if it's worth putting in for. Also, wheres the Mass College of Pharmacy and Science? Is thsat right?


Posted by: mikey742

Quote:
Originally Posted by sarge439
OK....please bear with this stupid question from a guy west of 495. Ready? Here we go. What city is Harvard in?...........I KNOW, I KNOW!! Stay out west!!! Blah...Blah....Blah.... LOL

I drive from Greenfield to Bedford now. Obviously it'll be just as far, but I'm trying to figure out how much and if it's worth putting in for. Also, wheres the Mass College of Pharmacy and Science? Is thsat right?
Sarge, I will take pity on you since you are from Indian country. Harvard is in Cambridge mostly and parts of Boston and I believe they also bought some property in Watertown. Mass college of Phram is in Boston


Posted by: Macop

Sarge working at Harvard wont be what you are usd to. No ch 90 and I imagine you won't be doing much Police work. It depends on what you want and after working with ya I dont know if you would like it. BTW how is the family, long time no talk, i'm back in Wmass.


Posted by: LTSO16

so hupd officers have sspo powers and go to a municipal academy?? is that what i got from reading this thread so far. well that and they make a shit load of money


Posted by: Mitpo62

Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclaw
HUPD is the best hidden secret in all of Law Enforcement. The pay is great and the bennies are great. No heavy lifting and plenty of details and overtime.
Sounds like MIT!


Posted by: Foxy85

How much politics are involved with this P.D. as far as getting on...?

I just ask not because of anything I've heard, just because I think all who apply should have heads up....


Posted by: ratwatcher

Harvard P.D may not Ch. 90, but they are very busy with crimes committed daily on and off campus, very busy there MACOP, or do you or did you work there enough to say that?


Posted by: HB7220PD

Yes, They do have arrest powers, obviously you don't do your research.


Posted by: hupd451

Take it from someone that worked there for many years, it is a very good job, you make very good money and work with alot of good people. Just be aware there is alot of politics involved to get hired and even once you are hired to advance. My advice is it can't hurt to apply and see what happens, that way you won't regret it. And Macop there is plenty of police work, unless you have been there you should not speculate.


Posted by: RCPD33

Roger, you are TOO kind (and too quick to use a blanket answer. Hee hee hee)

You got me Jim! OK, for the MOST part. A good group of guys! At least while I was there.


Posted by: new guy

Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclaw
HUPD is the best hidden secret in all of Law Enforcement. The pay is great and the bennies are great. No heavy lifting and plenty of details and overtime.
I don't know if it's much of a hidden secret, when HUPD used to hold a test the place would be packed to the rafters. I imagine they still get tons of applicants as it is one of the more sought after jobs out there.


Posted by: SJPDM92

Word is the HUPD HR Dept. has already received over 200 applications thus far. I'm guessing somewhere between 600-700 will be the final tally.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

I noticed the Sgt position is a non-union position or maybe i read it wrong . I know of 2 former LTs that worked there and were let go because they were not union and new administration came in, These guys had 20+ years each there and were tossed out like thrash. Luckily for them they were abel to get municipal jobs at their later age. Be wary of that place.


Posted by: Foxy85

Outof that 600-700, I'm sure you can easily elimnate 100 of them that just aren't qualified....which drops it to 500-600, not so good in math, but those odds aren't the best...


Posted by: JLT770

if anyone is looking for the payrate, bene's etc.

http://www.laborrelations.harvard.ed...union_hupa.pdf


Posted by: jndaniel

Ya'll may think I am crazy but I am actually contemplating moving to Boston from DC to go from a Federal LEO to become a Harvard Police Officer. I would like your opinions on most questions that an officer in my situation will make. Do HUPD officers get respect as real Police? Do HUPD officers have full law enforcement authorities? Do they write moving violations? Does supervisory personnel micromanage? Any and all broad or specific information will be appreciative?


Posted by: JLT770

i do think you are crazy


Posted by: jndaniel

Is there a way to "challenge" the Mass. police certification from an officer coming from out-of-state? Still waiting on some of the basic questions I asked in my previous post My mother in law is an employee at NEU, but I have heard horror stories about that joint.


Posted by: jndaniel

Does anyone have a time frame on when any type of testing will take place? What kind of testing do they do?


Posted by: hupd451

no test


Posted by: JLT770

HUPD do you know whats going on right now with the application process?


Posted by: Foxy85

Whats the HUPD PAT test like.....?


Posted by: HB7220PD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy85
Whats the HUPD PAT test like.....?
You do the Commonwealth's PAT Test. There is no Harvard PAT Test. You attend A MCJTC Academy like every other police officer in this state. You go to the MBTA Police Academy. And If you are already trained in the academy, you might be considered for the job.

[quote=JLT770]HUPD do you know whats going on right now with the application process?

They are not taking anymore applications as of September 27. Then I think that they are going to review all applicants and see who qualifies for the job. Once they have determined that, then they will schedule interviews. Once the interviews are over, they will narrowed it down to the most qualified, and then make a decision from there.


Posted by: JLT770

thanks a lot, i hope i get an interview at least, but im sure there are more qualified people out there.


Posted by: Foxy85

How many applications did they end up taking in?

How many interviews are planned....?

HB where do you get your info. from? Do you work there? I'm just curious so the rest of u scan pick your brain a bit more if you do work there...


Posted by: HB7220PD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy85
How many applications did they end up taking in?

How many interviews are planned....?

HB where do you get your info. from? Do you work there? I'm just curious so the rest of u scan pick your brain a bit more if you do work there...
Yes I do work here, and love it. It has been great for me since I started here.


Posted by: jndaniel

HB7220PD,

Are ya'll covered under HR 218? I know 218 gives stipulations about being a federal, state, and/or local officer. I heard since Harvard officers are officers of a private university they are not covered. I don't see how since the force is trained under state guidelines of police officers. What powers are ya'll given being deputy sheriff's in various counties?


Posted by: CampusOfficer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy85
How many applications did they end up taking in?
I have heard through the rumor mill that the number is over 1,000.


Posted by: LTSO16

am i right in saying that they are not part of the quinn bill as well?? also any ideas on what they are looking for in basic qualifications to get to the interview?


Posted by: 2-Delta

I heard they wont hire anyone who went to Yale.


Posted by: id1811xecj

[quote=jndaniel]HB7220PD,

Are ya'll covered under HR 218? I know 218 gives stipulations about being a federal, state, and/or local officer. I heard since Harvard officers are officers of a private university they are not covered. I don't see how since the force is trained under state guidelines of police officers. quote]

HR 218 does not apply to railroad police, except Amtrak, and private college police department.


Posted by: hupd451

Harvard is not part of the Quinn Bill system but they have a very good educational incentive program based on a percentage of your base pay. Harvard also pays for you to go to school, so they are paying for you to get your degree and then they pay you for having your degree. I got my masters and now I am working for a municipality and reaping the benefits. All the info about the HUPD contract is on the Harvard web site under employment section. In the past Harvard has interviewed persons with any kind of police background and if you know a member of the department you will also get interviewed. The interviews are very tough and with that many applicants they can be picky. Good Luck to all those who applied, it is a good job with good benefits and good people.


Posted by: LTSO16

Thanks for all the info


Posted by: Macop

To those who took offense to my earlier comments, get over it. I wasnt trying to bash HUPD kiddies, so you can unbunch your panties. Jesus don't be so sensitive about what someone says on an internet web site.


Posted by: JLT770

now that's funny


Posted by: policebound24

Just wondering If HUPD has set up interviews yet and if they did how many applicants got interviews and how many people are they looking to hire. Thanks in advance


Posted by: jndaniel

I put in for the position coming from out of state. If it's true that approximately 1,000 people put in for the position it may take them a minute to critique all of the resumes. It also depends who is looking at the resumes to determine who gets selected for interviews and who doesn't.


Posted by: Macop

Aww you guys are no fun.


Posted by: LTSO16

Anyone heard anything more about the positions??


Posted by: dpd9106

The interviews have started in Nov. I just got my date and time, fyi.


Posted by: AdamJ1984

Did you receive it by regular mail or was it Email because my comcast account has been inactive for a few days and I don't want to miss anything important.


Posted by: dpd9106

it came by phone


Posted by: AdamJ1984

Ok, thanks for the info.


Posted by: JLT770

when did you get the call? just wondering if i even have a shot at getting a call or if that was a week ago


Posted by: AdamJ1984

Just received the I am sorry but... letter today in the mail. I should keep a pile of these just to motivate myself even more. Oh well, what can you do?


Posted by: dpd9106

Keep trying it will happen, if you want a job and are wiling to leave Mass and want a ton of action. I am a background investgator for my department here in nc. Our next academy is in feb 2008 !
durhampolice.com


Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJ1984
Just received the I am sorry but... letter today in the mail. I should keep a pile of these just to motivate myself even more. Oh well, what can you do?

At least Harvard University notified you!!! I have applied to departments who couldnt even give the courtesy of mailing you a F U letter.


Posted by: LTSO16

Did you get the "im sorry" letter after an interview?


Posted by: AdamJ1984

No, just the letter, no interview, it said they have more qualified individuals.


Posted by: jndaniel

I didn't get a phone call for an interview or the "FU" letter. Wonder what that means?


Posted by: JLT770

i got the FU Phone Call...boy was that hard to take...

yeah i didn't get anything either, but it is the weekend just be patient, im guessing no phone call by now = the letter?


Posted by: RPD931

Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Wampanoag
At least Harvard University notified you!!! I have applied to departments who couldnt even give the courtesy of mailing you a F U letter.
Great point!! A BIG step up in the professionalism department.


Posted by: MPKalnicki

i have not heard anything from them, not even a simple phone call.


Posted by: Foxracingmtnridr

Got my FU letter yesterday. They already knew who they were gonna hire way before they posted the jobs.


Posted by: WaterPistola

really? thats no good...i still have not received anything and i sent my letter of intent, resume, and those papers they wanted you to fill out on the first day!


Posted by: Loyal

Not ready to retire yet, but plan on doing so when I max out at age 55. Just wondering which colleges hire retired municipal police officers at that age ? What Boston/South Shore area colleges are most and least likely to ?


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loyal
Not ready to retire yet, but plan on doing so when I max out at age 55. Just wondering which colleges hire retired municipal police officers at that age ? What Boston/South Shore area colleges are most and least likely to ?

Try MIT and Tuffs


Posted by: Loyal

GodBlessTheArmy, I see that you are serving in Iraq; Thank you for your service to the people of the USA and take care of yourself !


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loyal
GodBlessTheArmy, I see that you are serving in Iraq; Thank you for your service to the people of the USA and take care of yourself !
Thank you very much for your support. Got recalled out of IRR after two years out from active duty, and 10 months on the job =( but I'll be back soon and on the beat/booking room =)

Oh and I meant Tufts in that last post =)


Posted by: Mitpo62

MIT....the best kept secret in the Commonwealth.


Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

WOW I guess you def need "pull" for HUPD considering people with a full-time academy didn't even get a chance to interview before they received the thanks but not this time letter.


Posted by: mpd61

I don't know how many times it can be said here in relation to the larger "in-town" private schools; If you don't know someone at the institution, have BIG pull outside, or recently given your lottery winnings to the Alumni fund, then forget it. This includes Harvard/MIT/BU/BC/Tufts and others.



Posted by: dpd9106

Thats not true I had neither of those but was well qualified !


Posted by: daxxkid

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpd61
I don't know how many times it can be said here in relation to the larger "in-town" private schools; If you don't know someone at the institution, have BIG pull outside, or recently given your lottery winnings to the Alumni fund, then forget it. This includes Harvard/MIT/BU/BC/Tufts and others.
I don't know about all of those, but BC just took one of my friends this spring, she just graduated MBTA this October.
Good luck to all at Harvard


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Private schools will always hire from within before going outside to the public. just consider it some type of residental list, or something....


Posted by: JLT770

just got my FU letter for real, actually i got 2 of them. i guess they are really trying to drive the point across that they are thankful for my application but do not need me at this time.


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
just got my FU letter for real, actually i got 2 of them. i guess they are really trying to drive the point across that they are thankful for my application but do not need me at this time.
Sorry to hear that. If you need any information regarding other agencies in that general area, send me a PM.


Posted by: LTSO16

hey JLT770 what did your letter say? was it for an interview?


Posted by: FghtNIrsh17

Quote:
just got my FU letter for real, actually i got 2 of them. i guess they are really trying to drive the point across that they are thankful for my application but do not need me at this time.
If you read his post it pretty much sums up what they wanted. So I am assuming it wasn't for him to come in for an interview. Letter probably said something like After reviewing you application/resume, we were impressed BUT you will not be interview for the position at this time. Thanks for you interest and good luck in your endeavors. Something close to that.

1000+ applicants, I am sure there where many FU letters. I would hate to have been on that screening board looking at all the applications/resumes to see if there qualified to even receive an interview. Curious how many other applicants with full-time academy had received the FU letters without an interview. Academy isn't everything, you definitely need pull in this state to land a job which is BS. Not what you knwo or are trained for but who you know. Done ranting.

JLT770, Know how ya feel. Don't give up just keep trying and moving forward.


Posted by: 94c

With a 1000+ applicants they can afford to toss out applications/resumes because of bad spelling.

So for those of you too lazy to use spellcheck and criticize the grammar police, take heed.


Posted by: JLT770

nah im not that upset, seeing people getting the same letter on this board makes me feel better, especially those with academies under their belt. i know now there were many more qualified people that didn't get an interivew. I still got CS going for me...i believe


Posted by: Mortal knight

JLT770, I got my letter today also. My favorite line was, "...very impress with your qualification... not selected ofr an interview"

I got the FT academy and lots of certifications, but no interview. Oh well I'm already on the job so I'm not "heart broken", but the pay increase would of been nice.

Good luck to all who got an interview.


Posted by: JLT770

just goes to show you how political these jobs are...i just think its funny i got 2 letters, maybe i applied twice somehow?


Posted by: Redleg13D

I got my "thanks, but no thanks" letter and email.

I must say I do give them some credit. Even if it was a standard letter, ts the first time I ever recieved such a thing, given the dozens of jobs I've put in for.


Posted by: Xyr_gt

Anyone with an Interview hear back from Harvard yet?


Posted by: dmelo1432

I got mine back today saying thanks but no thanks I to have many certifications and experience but yet no interview . Ive been a special for four years and I been applying since I finished the reserve academy four years ago . Applied to countless colleges but only got one interview at Bridgewater State College but was so nervous I screwed myself . I apply to non civil service departments and I get interviewed with no problem just hard to get interviews at colleges for some weird reason . To top it off Im number 20 on my resident civil service list and the department is only hiring three . Dam I hate this state !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: HB7220PD

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xyr_gt
Anyone with an Interview hear back from Harvard yet?

The interviews are over. They will make a selection for the 14 officers in the next two weeks, Probaly after thanksgiving, first week of december.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
just goes to show you how political these jobs are...i just think its funny i got 2 letters, maybe i applied twice somehow?

It's not about politics at Harvard. It's different, and you would not be able to understand.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
nah im not that upset, seeing people getting the same letter on this board makes me feel better, especially those with academies under their belt. i know now there were many more qualified people that didn't get an interivew. I still got CS going for me...i believe

You have to remember that it is not always about being fully trained in the academy. They take alot of things into consideration. This deparment protects and serves the Harvard Community. Harvard is the Wealthiest University in the world, never mind the country. It is a different ball game at that university

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
With a 1000+ applicants they can afford to toss out applications/resumes because of bad spelling.

So for those of you too lazy to use spellcheck and criticize the grammar police, take heed.

They only took in about 500 applicants, and probably interviewed 150 of them. They will never take such load of 1000+applications. The department is very busy with their regular duties.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodblessThearmy
Private schools will always hire from within before going outside to the public. just consider it some type of residental list, or something....

That's not true, I live in Taunton, and I got the Job, I travel 100 miles a day, 2, per day depending on traffic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpd61
I don't know how many times it can be said here in relation to the larger "in-town" private schools; If you don't know someone at the institution, have BIG pull outside, or recently given your lottery winnings to the Alumni fund, then forget it. This includes Harvard/MIT/BU/BC/Tufts and others.
I didn't know anybody, I didn't have pull. I was very fortune to receive the job based on my interview score.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxracingmtnridr
Got my FU letter yesterday. They already knew who they were gonna hire way before they posted the jobs.

That's not true, They were more qualified individuals than you. They will be making their selection in the next coming weeks. The interviews were wrapped up couple of days ago. If they knew who they already wanted they would have not wasted their time with interviews. I had several of my friends receive interviews, and some of the them might have a shot.


Posted by: LawWoman

Who wants to be campus scab anyway?


Posted by: LTSO16

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg13D
I got my "thanks, but no thanks" letter and email.

I must say I do give them some credit. Even if it was a standard letter, ts the first time I ever recieved such a thing, given the dozens of jobs I've put in for.
yea i got the email too what did yours say? probably the same as mine. good luck with cs though


Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by LawWoman
Who wants to be campus scab anyway?
first you go after troopers, now college officers...who's next?


Posted by: Macop

Christ, and I thought I was bad.


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by hb7220pd
That's not true, I live in Taunton, and I got the Job, I travel 100 miles a day, 2, per day depending on traffic.
I meant hire from within HU(other employees), is that rumor?


Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by HB7220PD
It's not about politics at Harvard. It's different, and you would not be able to understand. You have to remember that it is not always about being fully trained in the academy. They take alot of things into consideration. This deparment protects and serves the Harvard Community. Harvard is the Wealthiest University in the world, never mind the country. It is a different ball game at that university
so they look for candidates with experience protecting a way of life? protecting wealth/wealthy places?


Posted by: HB7220PD

Quote:
Originally Posted by LawWoman
Who wants to be campus scab anyway?

Anyone in this state would want to be a Harvard Campus Scab, especially when they make more money than most agencies, especially medford. It is an outstanding department, with the best pay and less headaches. I wouln't want to sit in a desk for seven years for medford Pd, appearantly that is happens in Medford PD when your a rookie

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
so they look for candidates with experience protecting a way of life? protecting wealth/wealthy places?
N0, you obviously don't get it. What department do you work for?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodblessThearmy
I meant hire from within HU(other employees), is that rumor?
Sometimes they take interviews from within but it doesn't mean that they get the job. some times 1-2 people get picked from within.


Posted by: Macop

HB722OPD, easy man, don't take shit so seriously. I will admit LawWoman pulled a pin, but who doesnt.


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by HB7220PD
Sometimes they take interviews from within but it doesn't mean that they get the job. some times 1-2 people get picked from within.
Ahh, thanks. I have nothing but respect for you guys as we work hand in hand more often then not. Especially on those calls when half your department and half of mine are running about looking for some bad guy. Good times.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

So HB7220PD, you had no relative as brass on MSP, you had no one work for the college,no special skills,just picked out and hired, huh?


Posted by: BrickCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macop
HB722OPD, easy man, don't take shit so seriously. I will admit LawWoman pulled a pin, but who doesnt.
I'd be pissed too if I were a Harvard cop and somebody made a dumb ass statement like that. Anyone who "pulls the pin" without using facts or logical analysis is either a shit stirring moron or an attention starved drama whore.


Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
So HB7220PD, you had no relative as brass on MSP, you had no one work for the college,no special skills,just picked out and hired, huh?
I understand Harvard is a very diverse community.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
I understand Harvard is a very diverse community.
Oh, a homo.


Posted by: JLT770

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
Oh, a homo.
haha no wonder i just didn't get it


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by HB7220PD
Anyone in this state would want to be a Harvard Campus Scab, especially when they make more money than most agencies, especially medford.
Dude, it's nice to have pride in your job and everything, but get real. As fucked-up as my department is right now, I'd never leave to go to a campus PD. I think the former HUPD cop who left there to come to my job would agree with me.


Posted by: Macop

BrickCop Wrote:
I'd be pissed too if I were a Harvard cop and somebody made a dumb ass statement like that. Anyone who "pulls the pin" without using facts or logical analysis is either a shit stirring moron or an attention starved drama whore.

Ok, BrickCop I guess you may have a point, but a person on some silly ass web site (no offense Gill) is "really" gonna get you all worked up, come on. Fuck em, who cares. But I digress, I do give him/her props for defending the P.D he/she works for. I would never leave my P.D to be HUPD, not to bash the place, but I have agree with the brucemeister. The claim that HUPD makes more money then most P.Ds I would argue, but what does it really matter.


Posted by: hupd451

Delta is right. I left after 15 years there. Harvard is very political. I got hired when they had a test, which was done away with by the current administration. Hiring and promotions are based on oral boards now. I worked for two administrations there and the politics are definitely more in play with the current administration. I believe that the officer that Delta works with could tell you alot about the politics, and how he got F**ked. It is a good job and the money is nice but the politics and the bulls**t ruins the job.


Posted by: BrickCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macop
BrickCop Wrote:
I'd be pissed too if I were a Harvard cop and somebody made a dumb ass statement like that. Anyone who "pulls the pin" without using facts or logical analysis is either a shit stirring moron or an attention starved drama whore.

Ok, BrickCop I guess you may have a point, but a person on some silly ass web site (no offense Gill) is "really" gonna get you all worked up, come on. Fuck em, who cares. But I digress, I do give him/her props for defending the P.D he/she works for. I would never leave my P.D to be HUPD, not to bash the place, but I have agree with the brucemeister. The claim that HUPD makes more money then most P.Ds I would argue, but what does it really matter.
You wouldn't take the HUPD job over the Boston School Police?


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrickCop
You wouldn't take the HUPD job over the Boston School Police?
I promised Gil I would be nice, but since you asked..........?


Posted by: new guy

There is no doubt that there are far more people in campus law enforcement who would make the switch to a municpality than vice-versa. That being said, I know that in my department, we have lost some good officers to cities and towns but we have also retained some that had offers to leave. We also have a number of officers who used to work for cities and towns ( non retirees ) and others who are satisified with their job and no longer take the CS or any other police exams. I guess we would be those "Campus Scabs," that law women was asking about. I think that law women needs to get off her high horse or atleast offer some credentials as to why she feels superior enough to talk down upon an entire profession.


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

LawWoman is just a troll...thats all


Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodblessThearmy
LawWoman is just a troll...thats all
But she's giving Medford PD a bad name...


Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
But she's giving Medford PD a bad name...

Banz0r her/him imo...


Posted by: Foxy85

Quote:
Originally Posted by LawWoman
Who wants to be campus scab anyway?

Its like every other month that we get some douche bag who comes on here just to stir the shit....Shes nothing more than a troll....Probably not even a woman, probably some old man who likes to pretend hes a cop with a vagina...


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by 94c
But she's giving Medford PD a bad name...
I could use the Seal of the President of the United States as my avatar, that doesn't mean I'm George W. Bush.


Posted by: 94c

That's why anyone caught impersonating a P.O. should be banned.


Posted by: Mitpo62

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
I could use the Seal of the President of the United States as my avatar, that doesn't mean I'm George W. Bush.
I could differ with you. Up, up, and awaaaay...........


Posted by: mpd61

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62
I could differ with you. Up, up, and awaaaay...........
"Mein Feuhrer! I Can WALK!!!"


Posted by: Macop

Yes Bricktop, I would absolutely take the HUPD job over the BSPD.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

Quote:
Originally Posted by FghtNIrsh17
When I was in the academy I had an instructor from HUPD. He had told me that HUPD was going to be hiring alot of cops due to expansion of the university and soem type of research stuff going on there.
The research that's going on will no doubt take the life of many of the cops currently working there, kinda like that old 'army' research from the 50s, so the University will have to replace the test subjects. I'm already feeling the effects

effects

effects

eff....what was I saying?

Hey HUPD451, how's things? You doing well? We miss you somewhat and want you back. My best to the family!

Quote:
Originally Posted by mpd61
"Mein Feuhrer! I Can WALK!!!"
The final, and one of the BEST lines from that movie. Truly a classic.


Posted by: hupd451

Jimmy,
no one could EVER replace You!!!!


Posted by: policebound24

Any word if on the hiring process did they select people already?


Posted by: Kilvinsky

Word is, this week the semi-finals start. Be patient and don't be overly optimistic. I've seen too many people get too confident about a job and then, SLAM! it just don't happen.

Been there, done that a couple of times. Never again.


Posted by: Kilvinsky

This is an article from the Harvard Crimson from 1947. I changed not a word, I only highlighted the best part. Though this isn't true any longer, I gotta tell ya, I've NEVER complained about my pay. To be third highest in the COUNTRY again would be freakin' awesome, but I know that'll never happen. If you want to read the whole article, PM me and I'll send it. Oh, and we have our OWN union now, not HUERA which no longer exists.




Employees Union Ends Ten Tough Years of Battle for Higher Wages
AFL Raids, 'Company Union' Label Made Road Rocky for Maids, Janitors, Waitresses
Published On Saturday, November 08, 1947 12:00 AM
By NO WRITER ATTRIBUTED

Despite a tempestuous career marked by frequent American Federation of Labor raids and the oft-repeated charge that it is a "company union," the Harvard University Employees Representative Association will celebrate its tenth birthday in January.

Now in the midst of a drive to obtain a 15 cent an hour wage increase for University-employed maids and janitors, H.U.E.R.A. points with pride to the gains it has won for such groups as the University Police.

According to union figures, the Yard cops now get $55.75 a week, which makes them the third highest paid police force in the country, with only the New York and Cambridge municipal departments ahead of them.





Posted by: GodblessThearmy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilvinsky
This is an article from the Harvard Crimson from 1947. I changed not a word, I only highlighted the best part. Though this isn't true any longer, I gotta tell ya, I've NEVER complained about my pay. To be third highest in the COUNTRY again would be freakin' awesome, but I know that'll never happen. If you want to read the whole article, PM me and I'll send it. Oh, and we have our OWN union now, not HUERA which no longer exists.




Employees Union Ends Ten Tough Years of Battle for Higher Wages
AFL Raids, 'Company Union' Label Made Road Rocky for Maids, Janitors, Waitresses
Published On Saturday, November 08, 1947 12:00 AM
By NO WRITER ATTRIBUTED

Despite a tempestuous career marked by frequent American Federation of Labor raids and the oft-repeated charge that it is a "company union," the Harvard University Employees Representative Association will celebrate its tenth birthday in January.

Now in the midst of a drive to obtain a 15 cent an hour wage increase for University-employed maids and janitors, H.U.E.R.A. points with pride to the gains it has won for such groups as the University Police.

According to union figures, the Yard cops now get $55.75 a week, which makes them the third highest paid police force in the country, with only the New York and Cambridge municipal departments ahead of them.


Wonder what Cambridge is now =P doubt we are second anymore.


Posted by: dpd9106

you guys add a few more zero's to that figure since then !


Posted by: sulldog6

Quote:
Originally Posted by GodblessThearmy
Wonder what Cambridge is now =P doubt we are second anymore.
Lets bring a copy of that article with us when we go to arbitration.... you think it will help.
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Posted by: Kilvinsky

Quote:
Originally Posted by sulldog6
Lets bring a copy of that article with us when we go to arbitration.... you think it will help.
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Don't bet on it, at this point, I think you are AHEAD of NYC. The pay there is not said to be all that fantastic. Just mention you were ONCE the second highest paid in the COUNTRY and would like to at least approach that status again.

Or maybe "settle" for third.


Posted by: policebound24

any update on the hiring process


Posted by: Kilvinsky

Unknown what's going on right now. LAST week was supposed to be the next step, but there's been training going on and everyone has had to go. It's kind of taken up much of the time.


Posted by: LTSO16

well they should already know who has made it to the "next step". Isnt that the physical and other forms of testing?


Posted by: Kilvinsky

I found out yesterday that Background checks are next. Those moving on to that step should be finding out very soon. They are also in the promotion process, so they're trying to multi-task.

On THAT, I have no comment.


Posted by: LTSO16

So they have not contacted anyone as to who moved on? They are still deciding out of the 130 or so that interviewed?


Posted by: dpd9106

they started calling today for phase 2 !


Posted by: Kilvinsky

Yes, I found out today that the letters went out yesterday or the day before and if you are moving on to the background check, you will know today or tomorrow or very VERY soon.

Good luck all.




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