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Posted by: NegroRotary

Just checked HRD website and found out that I am going to get a Certificate, the date is 8/23/07 and has to reply by 9/05/07, anyone else is getting this certificate? How's that department? anyone have info? thank you

Posted by: NBPD

What does the certificate mean? is it a card or something because I am very close with that department =] pm me for info

just checked the certificate process as well and I am on there also.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Everyone else call it "a card", the HRD website call it "certificate" they are going to hire 12 spanish speaking police officer

Posted by: NBPD

Yeah I figured that, already wen't to pick up the paperwork. Good luck man. Any questions feel free to hit me up. Have a good day.

Posted by: HB7220PD

How many Spanish Speaking individuals are on the list. DOes anyone know? Are they going to be looking outside of New Bedford as well? How Many Spanish officers are there now?

Posted by: NegroRotary

Well they are going to hire 12 and they sent card to like 25, I live in Taunton, so I guess they are looking outside of New Bedford

Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by NegroRotary

Well they are going to hire 12 and they sent card to like 25, I live in Taunton, so I guess they are looking outside of New Bedford

The department is persistent in getting the 12 hispanic officers with the academy starting in late December or January.

They are pushing to break the 300 mark and will be very close with these twelve.

Posted by: Mitpo62

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Originally Posted by NegroRotary

Well they are going to hire 12 and they sent card to like 25, I live in Taunton, so I guess they are looking outside of New Bedford

Negro, you giving up on Taunton already? I believe they're hiring four this fall...all of which are in the minority ranks. You've come so far for so long.

Posted by: NBPD

projected start date for plymouth is December 10, 2007.. I hope it stays within that month or jan if anything.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

I think NBPD only pays recruits something like $9 hr in the academy.

Posted by: sdb29

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Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne

I think NBPD only pays recruits something like $9 hr in the academy.

Really? Where did you hear that?

Chapter 41: Section 96B. Police training schools; supervisory training; attendance by persons exercising police powers; wages and expenses; exceptions; removal for failure to attend

Section 96B. Every person who receives an appointment to a position on a full-time basis in which he will exercise police powers in the police department of any city or town, shall, prior to exercising police powers, be assigned to and satisfactorily complete a prescribed course of study approved by the municipal police training committee. The provisions of chapter thirty-one and any collective bargaining agreement notwithstanding, any person so attending such a school shall be deemed to be a student officer and shall be exempted from the provisions of chapter thirty-one and any collective bargaining agreement for that period during which he is assigned to a municipal police training school, provided that such person shall be paid the regular wages provided for the position to which he was appointed and such reasonable expenses as may be determined by the appointing authority and be subject to the provisions of chapter one hundred and fifty-two.

They get paid at first step officer level. Just like everyone else is supposed to be.

Posted by: NBPD

Do not quote me here, however I believe they receieve step one patrolman's pay while in the academy. I believe MSP pay around 10 $ hr in the academy to the cadets.

Posted by: HB7220PD

NegroRotary are you on the Taunton list, and Are you a veteran?

Taunton Is Hiring one person from the regular list, One person from the Spanish Speaking List and one person from the Minority/black list. That's the process that they are going through right now.

NegroRotary are you on the Taunton list, and Are you a veteran?

Taunton Is Hiring one person from the regular list, One person from the Spanish Speaking List and one person from the Minority/black list. That's the process that they are going through right now.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Mitpo62 I'm not giving up on Taunton, but NB call me from the old list, the new list is not out yet, I can latetal at a later time if possible

HB7220PD, Yes i'm on Taunton list, #79 I think ( I am #149 in NB), I'm DVet as well and I have not recieve anything from Taunton, did they send the card out yet?

Posted by: redsox03

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Originally Posted by HB7220PD

Taunton Is Hiring one person from the regular list, One person from the Spanish Speaking List and one person from the Minority/black list. That's the process that they are going through right now..

The CS has a ''minority'' list? Thats amazing. People should learn ENGLISH when they come to the US. Then we would have no need for a Spanish speaking list. Give me a break.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Don't be so bitter Redsox, its not our fault, blame it on your state

Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne

I think NBPD only pays recruits something like $9 hr in the academy.

there is no "academy pay". you start at first step patrolman's pay. which is probably somewhere around $15 an hour. 5 steps max out at 5 years.

Posted by: NegroRotary

There was a report in the New Bedford News Paper on police details, and I think New Bedford pay around 40K/year

Posted by: redsox03

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Originally Posted by NegroRotary

Don't be so bitter Redsox, its not our fault, blame it on your state

I'm not bitter. I just think it's funny that they have all those lists.

Posted by: Mitpo62

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Originally Posted by redsox03

I'm not bitter. I just think it's funny that they have all those lists.

And now they're grading the foolish test on a "bell curve", making it easier now more than ever.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Redsox I know, I am a firm believer of the overall best qualify person for the job, without taking in consideration that I was a Ranger or that I went to Irak 3 time.

Posted by: kwflatbed

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Originally Posted by NegroRotary

There was a report in the New Bedford News Paper on police details, and I think New Bedford pay around 40K/year

http://www.masscops.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36817

Posted by: redsox03

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Originally Posted by NegroRotary

Redsox I know, I am a firm believer of the overall best qualify person for the job, without taking in consideration that I was a Ranger or that I went to Irak 3 time.

Your joking right? If you have been to Iraq 3 time you would have spelled it right.
I thought everyone one here was a Ranger, Delta Force, or SF.
If your a DVET like you said earlier then good for you, good luck in New Bedford.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Redsox I think you are looking at the wrong career, you consider education instead, at least you are good at doing spell check you know. Thank you, and good luck to you as well.

Posted by: OutOfManyOne

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any person so attending such a school shall be deemed to be a student officer and shall be exempted from the provisions of chapter thirty-one and any collective bargaining agreement for that period during which he is assigned to a municipal police training school

If you read this you will see that a police recruit is not a member of the union and is not entititled to CBA and therefore the town can set up a low rate for student officer. I heard $9 hr from a few recruits two years ago out of Plymouth Academy.

Posted by: rg1283

New Bedford is one scary hell hole, God Bless any police officer that works in New Bedford. Also noting the fact that their are other hell holes in MA, but New Bedford is the scariest, a place I never want to visit again.

Posted by: sdb29

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Originally Posted by rg1283

New Bedford is one scary hell hole, God Bless any police officer that works in New Bedford. Also noting the fact that their are other hell holes in MA, but New Bedford is the scariest, a place I never want to visit again.

It's not that bad, really... It kind of grows on you. There aren't many places in the city I won't go off duty..'course I carry all the time.

OutofManyOne-

That may very well be what the intent of that law is; I dunno. I can't speak for what other departments pay in the Academy. I can only say that it's not the case in NB. We pay Step one Patrol Officer rate in the Academy. I don't know what was said in Plymouth two years ago. Back in the day I went to the Academy i was paid Step One rate- I've done backgrounds in the past and at those classes have gotten Step one rate.. I'll ask a new guy tomorrow night what he got paid last academy and get back to you.

Posted by: sdb29

OutofMany-

I spoke tonight to various guys that have been to the last four academy classes. All of them have received first step patrol officer pay, not 9 bucks an hour.

Posted by: NegroRotary

That's good to hear, is Dec 10 still the date for the academy?

Posted by: NBPD

projected start date, it's on the mass.gov/mptc site. The date can fluxuate at any time so who knows.. =p

Posted by: 94c

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Originally Posted by NegroRotary

That's good to hear, is Dec 10 still the date for the academy?

They can't put together 12 spanish speaking officers because of criminal backgrounds. That theory is out the window.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Well at least I have a good paying job, so that's fine too!

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by NegroRotary

Well at least I have a good paying job, so that's fine too!

either way, they will still be putting on the twelve. maybe even pushing for a few extra.

just not all spanish speaking.

Posted by: NegroRotary

THe good going around the rule thing, nice!

Posted by: NBPD

Let us not forget about the cadet preference as well.

Posted by: NegroRotary

How much New Bedford PD starting salary is?

Posted by: 94c

$700wk in the academy.

Posted by: Nick

OutOfManyOne,

You forgot the critical part of that sentence:

Quote:

The provisions of chapter thirty-one and any collective bargaining agreement notwithstanding, any person so attending such a school shall be deemed to be a student officer and shall be exempted from the provisions of chapter thirty-one and any collective bargaining agreement for that period during which he is assigned to a municipal police training school, provided that such person shall be paid the regular wages provided for the position to which he was appointed and such reasonable expenses as may be determined by the appointing authority and be subject to the provisions of chapter one hundred and fifty-two.

It means that regardless of chapter 31 (Civil Service Law), and regardless of what the union contract says, student officers SHALL be paid at regular wages provided for the position he was appointed.

sdb29,
Just because the law says we're suppose to get paid at step one doesn't mean it always happens. I got into a big thing with the town that sent me to the academy because they refused to pay me at step one, even after being hired as a full-time officer. They paid me at the special officer rate and argued that I was hired as a "student officer," so they could make up their own pay rate for that specific position. It was crap.

Posted by: sdb29

Nick you missed my point. The question was what New Bedford PD paid in the academy. I'm sorry your town tried to screw you- I'm sure there are others that pull that too, but in this case I was only pointing out that New Bedford steps up to the plate and pays the way it should.

Posted by: NegroRotary

700/wk i think i can manage that, thanks 94c!

Posted by: HB7220PD

The thing with New Bedford Police regarding the 12 Spanish Speaking Officers is that those new hires will have to move in into New Bedford and live there for Four years. Per the clause.

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by HB7220PD

The thing with New Bedford Police regarding the 12 Spanish Speaking Officers is that those new hires will have to move in into New Bedford and live there for Four years. Per the clause.

They couldn't find twelve spanish speaking officers. It will be much less.

Your right, New Bedford does have a residency requirement that allows you to move withing 15 miles (as the crow flies) after 4 years.

Posted by: NegroRotary

Out of the first list they sent out, only 15 replied..so they asked for another list.

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