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Posted by: Deputydog522

BHA Police OfficerThe Boston Housing Authority PD is nationally accredited law enforcement agency seeking qualified applicants to be placed on an eligibility list for the position of Police Officer. Qualified applicants must have satisfactorily completed a full time MPTC Academy or have permanent MPTC waiver. Reserve/Intermittent training will not be considered.

All applicants to the BHAPD will be required to successfully complete a comprehensive background investigation; medical and psychological examination in addition to a CALEA approved written entrance exam. Applicants shall possess sound judgement, outstanding communication skills and the ability to work proactively and independently in a diverse community-policing environment.

Base salary is $40,039.59 to $46,925.78. Benefits include 13 paid holidays, $1,200 annual uniform cleaning allowance, 457 deferred compensation plan, 80/20 health insurance, 60/40 dental, Group 4 State-Boston Retirement.

Submit an application by fax, mail or email by sending your resume and cover letter to:

Chief Stephen P. Melia
BHA Police Department
129 Amory Street
Roxbury, MA 02119 Fax: 617-988-5301
Email: Stephen.melia@bostonhousing.org



Posted by: MPD119

Correct me if Iam wrong, I thought the BHA has problem getting money from the Fed. Good to know they are hiring. Those guys must have a tough job.



Posted by: JLT770

i know im gonna get some heat about this, but they police the public housing in Boston correct?



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by JLT770
i know im gonna get some heat about this, but they police the public housing in Boston correct?
All property owned or controlled by the BHA. That includes the "traditional" housing projects (Orchard Park, Mission Hill, etc.) as well as all senior citizen housing operated by the BHA (dozens of buildings all over the city), which by law has to accept non-senior "disabled" (junkies and crazies).



Posted by: JLT770

sounds like great people to police



Posted by: Deputydog522

They really do not do much! I know someone that works with them and they do not do that much. It is a good job and good pay. But if you do not have the Mass Full Time Academy than do not even bother to apply. They will file your resume in the shredder!



Posted by: 14Paul

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputydog522
They really do not do much! I know someone that works with them and they do not do that much. It is a good job and good pay. But if you do not have the Mass Full Time Academy than do not even bother to apply. They will file your resume in the shredder!
You wouldn't do too much if you'd work there either... But to say it's a do nothing job, it depends on who you talk to. I was a Boston Housing cop & I still keep in touch with the guys and gals there, many of which are very active in their patrols.

They only have about 26 total that is including patrolmen, 8 sgt's. + chief...
So, let me see... the cheif & sgt's aren't gonna be patroling the bricks thru out the city of Boston... that leaves about 19 officers divided by 3 shifts = too many sh*tbags to deal with... Don't get me wrong, it's a good job with great learning potential...



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputydog522
They really do not do much! I know someone that works with them and they do not do that much.
Think about the absurdity of your statement....police officers patrolling the housing projects in Roxbury, Mattapan, South End, etc. don't do much. Believe me, they do plenty.

I worked there as a BHA cop so I have first-hand knowledge, unlike a "friend" who "works with them". That could mean the janitor of the police station or a secretary at a BHA office.



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
Think about the absurdity of your statement....police officers patrolling the housing projects in Roxbury, Mattapan, South End, etc. don't do much. Believe me, they do plenty.

I worked there as a BHA cop so I have first-hand knowledge, unlike a "friend" who "works with them". That could mean the janitor of the police station or a secretary at a BHA office.
What do you expect Delta784, he's a DeputyDog!!
14Paul hits the nail right on the head, 9 guys per day tour and evening shift plus a couple on Midnights. Take into account regular days off, sick days, vacation, personal days etc.... You're lucky if you run with 4 on a hot & busy Saturday night in August. And we all know how long those nights can run.
You work here, you got to work with your head screwed on straight. Don't bite off more than you can chew and you'll do just fine. Statistically, the bricks have more crime per person and area than most other parts of the city. But then again, DeputySlob is right, we do "nothing" but get paid well. DeputySlob is just mad he was talking to the Sergeant on the phone and faxing his resume at the same time while hearing the shredder crank up.



Posted by: BrickCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deputydog522
They really do not do much! I know someone that works with them and they do not do that much. It is a good job and good pay. But if you do not have the Mass Full Time Academy than do not even bother to apply. They will file your resume in the shredder!
Nothing much to do in the Bromley Heath, Mission Hill, Charlestown, D Street, Orchard Park, Franklin Hill, etc, etc...housing projects?! With all due respect, your friend appears to be full of BS.



Posted by: 2062

Can someone post any details on the job? pay, work schedule, ot and/or detail opportunities, time-off, residency requirement...thanks in advance.



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2062
Can someone post any details on the job? pay, work schedule, ot and/or detail opportunities, time-off, residency requirement...thanks in advance.
How about reading the first post, nimrod.

We work Monday - Friday, 9AM to 5PM with weekends, 13 paid holidays, three personal, and vacation time off. We get 1 day off per week for writing 3 parking violations in an 8 hour tour.

We get a 1/2 hour off for brunch which is paid for by the administration. Brunch is served daily at HQ using a Suisse Chef imported from France especially for us. He has his greencard, so no worries there.
Accomodations can be made if you are lactose intollerant or are allergic to peanut butter. Just let them know in advance.

You get to live in a luxury hi-rise public housing condo at no expense to you if you so choose. Doorman at the front entrance and a night watchman at the back entrance with valet parking too.

We drive around in Hummer3's with .50 cal turret rings and use ray guns to subdue evil do-ers. What more could you ask for in a job?



Posted by: BrickCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2062
Can someone post any details on the job? pay, work schedule, ot and/or detail opportunities, time-off, residency requirement...thanks in advance.
No residency requirement.



Posted by: KozmoKramer

Oh man... HC....



Posted by: kwflatbed

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2062
Can someone post any details on the job? pay, work schedule, ot and/or detail opportunities, time-off, residency requirement...thanks in advance.

SEARCH



Posted by: 2062

sorry, new to this board but i can see that the maturity level of some members is right up there with 5th graders.



Posted by: JLT770

he's right, there are a lot of new people, who come here to find answers, they don't know any better. Why not just create webpages with all the info on them? i know when i was new here, even now people yell at me to search. of course when i do search the thread is closed or its so old you cant post, so you repost with a question that wasn't answered exactly how you wanted it to, and get hell for it.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Does housing cover Bromley Heath now? Does that now fall under BHA? I know they used to be and thought it was still a self governing complex. I know they had their own PD until the corruption scandals in the project admin. (first time I saw their cruiser in person, I was working for a private ambulance service and we had a call. It was a bit disheartening to see the cruiser and it was nothing but the burnt out shell of a wreck!)

As for BHA PD, heck I can recall when there were only one or two guys on the overnight shift. On a good night there might be three. Everyone in civies. They'd drop by Sami's on Longwood Ave. for a bite to eat and we'd have our share of laughs, then, off they (or HE) would go back into the fray. Tough job is right!

I really miss Sami's too. Sigh.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilvinsky
Does housing cover Bromley Heath now? Does that now fall under BHA? I know they used to be and thought it was still a self governing complex.
Bromley was always BHA property, they just had a disastrous tenant management system that was blown-up a few years ago. The Bromley-Heath Patrol went with it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilvinsky
As for BHA PD, heck I can recall when there were only one or two guys on the overnight shift. On a good night there might be three. Everyone in civies. They'd drop by Sami's on Longwood Ave. for a bite to eat and we'd have our share of laughs, then, off they (or HE) would go back into the fray. Tough job is right!

I really miss Sami's too. Sigh.
I was one of those guys.

Sami's is gone now? I used to love their hot dogs in a Syrian wrap, and they had better coffee than DD, I thought. Is the one in Roslindale gone also?



Posted by: Macop

2062 don't mind the jackasses on here, you will find plenty of em.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
Bromley was always BHA property, they just had a disastrous tenant management system that was blown-up a few years ago. The Bromley-Heath Patrol went with it.

I was one of those guys.

Sami's is gone now? I used to love their hot dogs in a Syrian wrap, and they had better coffee than DD, I thought. Is the one in Roslindale gone also?
One of those guys...REALLY. Who was the Sgt. with the beard. Kind of a crazy guy but really funny. I assisted him on St. Alphonsus St. one night with some kid who had pot that turned out to be beer. Don't ask. LMAO

Sami's did/does have a very small trailer outside of Vanderbilt Hall, but it's not the same and none of the great old food is there. I can't really say about the one in Rozzy, but I think I heard it was gone but not forgotten. I always got Kafta/Hummus, NO tomatoes, or Sami's Rice. They moved for a bit INTO Vanderbilt Hall but then when the cafeteria was renovated into offices, they moved to the trailer. I haven't worked over there in a a few years so I haven't really paid attention as to whether the trailer is still there.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilvinsky
One of those guys...REALLY. Who was the Sgt. with the beard. Kind of a crazy guy but really funny. I assisted him on St. Alphonsus St. one night with some kid who had pot that turned out to be beer. Don't ask. LMAO
He is now on the transit police, sans beard.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilvinsky
Sami's did/does have a very small trailer outside of Vanderbilt Hall, but it's not the same and none of the great old food is there. I can't really say about the one in Rozzy, but I think I heard it was gone but not forgotten. I always got Kafta/Hummus, NO tomatoes, or Sami's Rice. They moved for a bit INTO Vanderbilt Hall but then when the cafeteria was renovated into offices, they moved to the trailer. I haven't worked over there in a a few years so I haven't really paid attention as to whether the trailer is still there.
That was such an institution, it's so sad to hear it's effectively gone.

Speaking of institutions, is Subs & Such still on Huntington Ave.?



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Subs and Such went by the wayside years ago. It was a terrific place but no scantilly clad women ever went there after the clubs closed, so I never really cared. I do recall the HUGE guy who worked there though. Nice guy and made a good sub. I'm not skinny by a long stretch, but I've always loved guys like him. Made me FEEL thin.



Posted by: t21port

Any idea on how many police officers they anticipate on hiring and when?



Posted by: Kilvinsky

HEY DELTA!

The trailer in front of Vanderbilt is STILL Sami's, but last time I got food there, they didn't have the delacies they once offered.

Institution is right. Were you working the night the Boston officer forgot his portable on the counter. One of the guys working there found it and figured if he called the station the poor cop would get his ass handed to him, so he decided that, if he just said "SAMI'S" quickly over the air, the cop would hear it on the cruiser radio and be reminded.

It backfired, since everyone heard "SAMI'S" and nothing else, someone assumed it was an OT call and next thing you know, about 20 cruisers are filling Longwood Ave. Me and a guy from MassArt were about 200 yards away having coffee when we heard the call on the scanner, so we were two of the first there. The poor Sami's guy and of course the cop were VERY embarassed. The rest of us were torn between very angry and laughing very hard.

Now, some will ask what all this has to do with the Boston Housing Police.

Nothing. Nothing at all.



Posted by: BrickCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
He is now on the transit police, sans beard.
I dunno...sounds like "Skippy" to me.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrickCop
I dunno...sounds like "Skippy" to me.
He couldn't have found St. Alphonsus (a.k.a. "Saink Alfonkafonk") Street with a map and a GPS system, never mind kids with pot and/or beer.



Posted by: THE RP

sorry, new to this board but i can see that the maturity level of some members is right up there with 5th graders.- 2062

Keeping in mind that this kid was crying here a week ago..Sorry I've been away..I can't resist.

Kid, you better grow a thicker skin if you want to do this job....And pay attention to the above stories and history that some of the people choose to share/ post here and ask yourself if your worthy of sharing in all the fun that comes with that thicker skin....If not, then I'm sure you can just ask for a hug instead....I think they teach that in the academy these days. Then again housing police may not be what you are looking for.



Posted by: 2062

not a kid, just asking some questions for general information. i realize that others feel that they are far mightier than everyone else. i work in the field and it doesnt take long to realize that kids will be kids. thick skin i have...been on the job for 10 years...what bothers me is some people do not appear to contribute anything to the threads except for the anonymous jabs that they like to take at others...the wonders of the internet...i have administrators who like to send emails on friday afternoon as they walk out the door so no one can confront them on them...this board appears to have the same effect on some...



Posted by: Kilvinsky

For all you Housing Cop reading this thread, I sent the link to my friend in Philly who is a Housing Cop there. Here is his reply.

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Interesting stuff.
I wish I could write something without joining. Maybe you can for me.

I come from a dept. that was the fourth largest in the state of Pennsylvania with close to three hundred officers (almost 300). Were are academy trained and were CLEA certified.We had an award winning bike unit of approx. 10-12 officers. A tactical unit that was an entry team for our very active narcotics unit (both uniformed and plain clothes). The narc. unit was assigned to and worked out of the attorney Generals Narcotics unit (Bureau of Narc. enforcement) and the Philadelphia unit was the most active in the state. Plus we had a domestic violence unit / conflict resolution unit/ DARE and GREAT unit and even a boy scout troop.That is until the Housing authority hired a guy from I think it was Chicago. His name is Greene and he is a bastard one armed bandit that came to the job saying he was a real estate agent not a police dept.

Now? We are useless with about 35 officers. The PHA budget was cut and they layed off 350 employees including 21 cops and sold off over 100 vehicles of all types to pare down the fleet.

Its no wonder we dont do much. But the overtime has been good due to the assholes laying off cops and the rest leaving AAP. Hell the university of Pennsylvanis has at lest a half dozen of our guys there now with two more processing.

Me? I have thirty-one years and have been looking hard for another job so I can put my papers in

Work safe



Posted by: BrickCop

What was your friend in Philly replying to? I don't get it...



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Quote:
Originally Posted by BrickCop
What was your friend in Philly replying to? I don't get it...
I had let him know about all this chit chat surrounding the Boston Housing Police (reason behind the thread-it HAS kinda gotten slightly off subject) by sending him the link for this thread. He found it interesting and simply figured that those interested in the Boston Housing Police might find what another large city's housing pd has been going up against in recent years.

I know there's been concern over funding and such on this thread and what with Lawrence, Worcester and Chelsea Housing PDs all going by the way side as well as the big NYPD merger some years ago, I though his sharing of 'possible worst case scenarios' might be of interest to those who might want to apply to the BHA. I'm in no way trying to discourage anyone from applying, it's a very respected job and for good reason.

I hope that clears up some of the confusion. I can understand why you might scratch your head over that.
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Posted by: Macop

I did not even know Chelsea or Lawrence had housing P.Ds. I am suprised that somerville still has thiers.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Chelsea's went south due to budgets. Lawrence due to shading dealings with the then chief. Worcester I think was budgets also.

We have a guy who works part time for SHAPD. He came to us from there but kept his hand in it and keeps pretty busy. I have a patch from Medford Housing Police but I know nothing about them and I know Brockton had a Housing Security Department but I know almost nothing about them as well.

BHA and SHA are the only ones I KNOW OF still pounding the pavement.



Posted by: t21port

Anybody going for an interview next week??



Posted by: t21port

Has anybody heard anything back about the results from the test??



Posted by: SPINMASS

Better late then never, Sami's is still alive and kicking, they are now located in the Longwood Galleria.



Posted by: t21port

Just wondering if anybody has heard anything else after completing their background checks???



Posted by: jmazz34

No, nothing yet.



Posted by: 170hancockst

HOUSING COP,

WRONG-GO IN CANTON, WOW!



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by 170hancockst View Post
HOUSING COP,
WRONG-GO IN CANTON, WOW!
170hancockst,
As one of my two favorite cartoons characters Ruffled Feather and Running Board used to say, "Hoopy Doopey, what him say?"

Welcome aboard the 3 new hires.



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPINMASS View Post
Better late then never, Sami's is still alive and kicking, they are now located in the Longwood Galleria.
Never too late to get good news. I haven't been in the Galleria in sometime and really looked around. Now I have a quest. Thanks SPINMASS!



Posted by: HousingCop


Hoopy Doopey, what him say?



Posted by: new guy

You gotta love those old school cartoons. If that were to run today, you would have all kinds of activists looking to scalp the TV network execs. Pun intended.



Posted by: HousingCop

Working for Housing is like working IN an old school cartoon. The 3 new guys will find that out very shortly.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post
Working for Housing is like working IN an old school cartoon. The 3 new guys will find that out very shortly.
Shiny pennies tarnish quickly.



Posted by: RCPD33

We have a guy who works part time for SHAPD. He came to us from there but kept his hand in it and keeps pretty busy.

Jim

That wouldn't happen to be "KB" now would it?



Posted by: Kilvinsky

Funny enough Rog, I'm not sure if he's still with them. One of our newer guys who came from there. We've actually picked up a total of four from there over the past few years.



Posted by: RCPD33

They were always good guys, the SH cops. They were crapped on enough by the regulars at the time (we're talking mid 80's here) and treated us auxiliarys who were just starting out very good, because they knew what it felt like. In fact, some of them started from our ranks originally.



Posted by: sluggie371

Well, spring is in the air. So this means some one should get the spring off on the right foot. I herd that The BHA is going belly up and lay offs are on the horizon. good luck FNG's. MFL



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by sluggie371 View Post
I herd that The BHA is going belly up and lay offs are on the horizon.
That one has been in circulation since I started there in the late 1980's.



Posted by: mschumann

Well after reading that layoffs are on the horizon maybe this isnt the best question haha..

I started my rule 400 spo class this past Monday and spent some time talking to a longwood secuirty guard... He believes that the BHA PD looks to hire Longwood SPO's that work in Housing area's etc... Wondering if this has any truth or is one of the many myths past through the hopefull LE community.

Thx



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by mschumann View Post
I started my rule 400 spo class this past Monday and spent some time talking to a longwood secuirty guard... He believes that the BHA PD looks to hire Longwood SPO's that work in Housing area's etc... Wondering if this has any truth or is one of the many myths past through the hopefull LE community.
Wishful thinking; the BHA Police don't fall under Rule 400 and all their people have attended the full-time MPTC academy.



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
Originally Posted by sluggie371 View Post
Well, spring is in the air. So this means some one should get the spring off on the right foot. I herd that The BHA is going belly up and lay offs are on the horizon. good luck FNG's. MFL
Yes Sluggie, we just hire so that we can lay off people. Happens all the time. I guess you didn't read in the Boston Globe (D) that we're good for the next 3 years from the sale of the Winthrop St. Garage and that the Mayor said as long as he's on the throne, they'll always be a Housing Police. You just can't leave 60,000 public housing residents in Boston without dedicated police services.
As far back as I have been here & beyond, we've never hired anybody who worked for Longwood. The last 12 guys hired already had a full MPTC academy or equivelant under their belt.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post
Yes Sluggie, we just hire so that we can lay off people. Happens all the time.
It's a variation of "catch & release" called "hire then lay-off", HC. Didn't you get the memo on it?



Posted by: mschumann

Ok great... Thats what I figured but i figured I would ask people who knew the information as fact not speculation.

SPO class is going well and I am trying to take in as much as I can. I am just worried about where it will take me after i complete it.



Posted by: soxrock75

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Originally Posted by mschumann View Post
SPO class is going well and I am trying to take in as much as I can. I am just worried about where it will take me after i complete it.
It's only gonna take you to a private security company that employs Specials in Boston and nowhere else.........It is only good for Boston. Looks good on the resume though.



Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop View Post

Hoopy Doopey, what him say?
Wow, that cartoon really brings me back. I miss the old days when good, old fashion racism could be fun for the whole family



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by mschumann View Post
I am just worried about where it will take me after i complete it.
You will take it somewhere, not the other way around.





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