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Oakham Lt may face disciplinary hearing

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Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Worcester T&G

Friday, July 27, 2007

Oakham officer may face disciplinary hearing

OAKHAM— Police Lt. Joseph L. Cadrin, who was arrested July 16 by the state police for allegedly driving drunk, may soon face a disciplinary hearing before selectmen.

Lt. Cadrin, 47, of Oakham, remains on paid leave, according to Selectmen Chairman Jeffrey A. Young. Mr. Young said the board might hold a disciplinary hearing with the officer Monday. Lt. Cadrin’s salary is $860 per week.

On Monday, the board met in executive session with Police Chief Donald A. Haapakoski to discuss the matter. Lt. Cadrin was not at the closed meeting. Selectmen did not issue a statement afterfollowing that the meeting. In an interview Wednesday night, Mr. Young declined to comment further on the matter, citing personnel reasons. Attempts to reach Lt. Cadrin were unsuccessful.

Records show Lt. Cadrin was arraigned at Central District Court in Worcester last week, was released on personal recognizance, and is due back in court Aug. 7 for a pretrial hearing. According to the state police report filed with the court, Lt. Cadrin was pulled over shortly after midnight on July 16 after he allegedly failed to stay within marked lanes on Interstate 190 in Worcester.

The report, written by state police Sgt. Brian Watson, states that after Lt. Cadrin’s 2002 Ford Explorer was pulled over, “He attempted to speak, but could not. His speech was so broken and slurred that I could not understand him whatsoever. His eyes were very glassy and bloodshot, and the odor of an alcoholic beverage coming from him as he tried to speak was overwhelming.” Lt. Cadrin refused to take a Breathalyzer test and refused to submit to a field sobriety test. The report says that at one point Lt. Cadrin “forcefully stated ‘I’m a police officer,’ in a very loud, slurred voice.”


Posted by: fscpd907

Lieutenant leaves force

Oakham’s Cadrin faces DUI charge

By James F. Russell CORRESPONDENT


OAKHAM— The town’s police lieutenant, who was arrested this month by state police for allegedly driving drunk, resigned yesterday, according to Oakham Police Chief Donald A. Haapakoski.

Joseph L. Cadrin’s resignation was accepted at 5 p.m. yesterday, Chief Haapakoski said in an interview at Town Hall. The chief said Mr. Cadrin left “for personal reasons to explore other employment opportunities,” but did not elaborate. Attempts to reach Mr. Cadrin, 47, of Oakham, at his home last night were unsuccessful.

Mr. Cadrin had been on paid leave since July 16, the chief said in a previous interview. He was earning $860 per week.

Mr. Cadrin was pulled over by state police for failure to stay within marked lanes just after midnight on July 16. He was driving a 2002 Ford Explorer on Interstate 190 in Worcester, according to a police.

Mr. Cadrin was arrested, charged with driving under the influence of alcohol, and arraigned in Central District Court in Worcester, where a pretrial hearing is scheduled for Aug. 8. The police report states that Mr. Cadrin refused to submit to a Breathalyzer test and refused to take a field sobriety test.

Mr. Cadrin was a full-time sergeant for the Barre Police Department before joining the Oakham force in 2005 as a patrolman. Selectmen promoted him to lieutenant 13 months ago based on a recommendation from Chief Haapakoski.

Oakham selectmen were preparing to hold a disciplinary hearing, but his resignation has rendered that process closed, Selectman David Richard said last night.

The chief said the vacancy would be filled, but did not say when the job would be posted.

With Mr. Cadrin gone, the department now has two full-timers — the chief and Detective Heather Welsh.

Chief Haapakoski said last night that he does not plan to name Detective Welsh as acting lieutenant. The Oakham department also consists of nine part-time officers.


Posted by: screamineagle

Joe is a nice guy, He'd give you the shirt off his back, but it was only a matter of time before this stuff caught up with him. I hope this is a wake up call for him, and he straightens out.


Posted by: fishtolt

I agree about the Lt. but you haven't heard his side of the story. Remember Joe has had many years being a Municipal cop and I know for a fact he has (helped many a (state) cop). Please don't make him guilty until you hear his side of the story. We all have our faults and skeletons in the closets. We need (brotherhood) first and foremost. I'm sure you mean well for him, but don't tell everyone he has a problem, when you don't know his side of what happened that day?


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

I heard through the grapevine that payback is going to be a bitch and it's just a matter of time.


Posted by: TopCop24

There is obviously alot more to the story than a simple OUI.


Posted by: centralmacop

I worked with Joe for years. This is not the first time this has happened. I know for a fact that he's been given NUMEROUS chances to address his booze problem, and hasn't. He has a god personality but has always been a malcontent. Kudos to the trooper for having the balls to clink him. How many bites of the apple do you think he would've gotten if he was ordinary Joe schmoe? Ask yourself, don't you think the Trooper contacted the Chief and advised him of what was going on while he was still on scene? What do you think the Chief's response was? I know what it was. Lock him up, he's been given enough breaks. Good for the Chief for having some balls too. Don isn't the kind of guy who would throw someone under the bus. He protects his guys almost too much. There are still some cops out there that think we (the Police) should hold ourselves to a higher standard. This BS culture of accepting the fact that cops drive drunk needs to end. You all know what I'm talking about too.


Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by fishtolt
I agree about the Lt. but you haven't heard his side of the story. Remember Joe has had many years being a Municipal cop and I know for a fact he has (helped many a (state) cop). Please don't make him guilty until you hear his side of the story. We all have our faults and skeletons in the closets. We need (brotherhood) first and foremost. I'm sure you mean well for him, but don't tell everyone he has a problem, when you don't know his side of what happened that day?
Did I mention ANYTHING about him being guilty? I am all for brotherhood, but this is not his first time getting stopped in that condition. If a fellow officer hit your family, would you still say we need brotherhood first? All I said was he has an problem, and hopefully after this he will straighten out.


Posted by: cj3441

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
I heard through the grapevine that payback is going to be a bitch and it's just a matter of time.
Payback to who?


Posted by: Mikey682

and what for?


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by cj3441
Payback to who?
To anyone driving drunk and I'll leave it at that.


Posted by: GD

I think personally this discussion is not for a public board which is read by reporters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Posted by: csauce777

Quote:
Originally Posted by centralmacop
I worked with Joe for years. This is not the first time this has happened. I know for a fact that he's been given NUMEROUS chances to address his booze problem, and hasn't. He has a god personality but has always been a malcontent. Kudos to the trooper for having the balls to clink him. How many bites of the apple do you think he would've gotten if he was ordinary Joe schmoe? Ask yourself, don't you think the Trooper contacted the Chief and advised him of what was going on while he was still on scene? What do you think the Chief's response was? I know what it was. Lock him up, he's been given enough breaks. Good for the Chief for having some balls too. Don isn't the kind of guy who would throw someone under the bus. He protects his guys almost too much. There are still some cops out there that think we (the Police) should hold ourselves to a higher standard. This BS culture of accepting the fact that cops drive drunk needs to end. You all know what I'm talking about too.
No offense, but whether the above is true or not...why is it your job to air someone else's dirty laundry on a public forum? The original news story was that he got popped for OUI. Your story is that he's a raging drunk. I dont see where that's any of our business.


Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Tuesday, August 14, 2007

Officers added; detective promoted

By James F. Russell CORRESPONDENT

OAKHAM— The depleted Police Department got a personnel boost yesterday when selectmen agreed to the chief’s recommendations to add three part-time officers and promoted a full-time detective to the rank of lieutenant.

Detective Heather Welsh, who was appointed a full officer by selectmen in June 2006, was promoted to lieutenant by a unanimous vote, although the board questioned if it would have made more sense to give her the rank of sergeant.

“I am wondering about the logic of after one year, going to lieutenant,” Selectman Jeffrey A. Young said.

In response, Oakham Police Chief Donald A. Haapakoski said, “She was three years in Barre, full time. … Depending on the size of the town, you can go from patrolman to lieutenant.”

Lt. Welsh must attend 80 hours of police academy training to be properly certified, and the class begins in October, Chief Haapakoski said. “That is a requirement by state law, we don’t have a choice,” he said.

According to Chief Haapakoski, Lt. Welsh will earn $860 per week. Her detective’s salary was $753 per week.

Selectmen unanimously appointed as part-time officers Robert J. Marino of Rutland, Richard G. Krasinakas of Worcester and Stuart R. Fuller of Oakham. Chief Haapakoski said Officer Marino is a full-time police officer in Rutland; Officer Krasinakas is a part-time officer in Rutland; and Officer Fuller is a campus police officer at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester.

Before the appointments, the department had five part-time vacancies, the chief said.

Chief Haapakoski said four individuals have applied for the full-time position previously held by Lt. Welsh and that the job is being posted until Aug. 27.

During the meeting, Selectman Dennis M. Bergin asked the chief if it would be wise to see who applies and use that candidate pool, in addition to Lt. Welsh, to fill the lieutenant’s position.

“It is always good to promote from within when you can,” Chief Haapakoski said.

Lt. Welsh replaces Joseph L. Cadrin, who resigned last month. Mr. Cadrin was arrested July 16 by state police for allegedly driving drunk on a Worcester highway. Mr. Cadrin was placed on paid leave by Chief Haapakoski the same day. He resigned July 30. Prior to her Oakham service, Lt. Welsh was a full-time officer in Barre, where she was the subject of an internal affairs probe by that department. Mr. Cadrin was formerly a police sergeant in Barre.

In another personnel announcement, Chief Haapakoski said part-time Sgt. Michael Sweet will be retiring in a week or so.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Detective Heather Welsh, who was appointed a full officer by selectmen in June 2006, was promoted to lieutenant by a unanimous vote,
What a joke, fulltime officer to lieutenant in one year. Sound like the Sheriff's Departments around here.


Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
What a joke, fulltime officer to lieutenant in one year. Sound like the Sheriff's Departments around here.
do you ever think before you type? You'd probably be the first to cry if you were in her shoes and someone passed you over.


Posted by: SinePari

Quote:
Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop
Selectmen unanimously appointed as part-time officers Robert J. Marino of Rutland, Richard G. Krasinakas of Worcester and Stuart R. Fuller of Oakham. Chief Haapakoski said Officer Marino is a full-time police officer in Rutland; Officer Krasinakas is a part-time officer in Rutland; and Officer Fuller is a campus police officer at the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester.
Dude, you are so gonna miss the scenery at Holy Cross...


Posted by: tarc

Wow, by my math figures, she will make a little over $41K a year as an LT. And who said you can't make money in police work.


Posted by: TFORCE

I didn't realize we took these jobs for the money. I thought it was because we like going after the bad guys.
Heck, if I wanted to make money I would have taken any job other than law enforcement. There is more to the job than just money.


Posted by: mikemac64

Quote:
Originally Posted by tarc
Wow, by my math figures, she will make a little over $41K a year as an LT. And who said you can't make money in police work.
I know "people" who make that in OT.


Posted by: TFORCE

Ever think that maybe she worked FT in other agencies, or has an advanced degree in CJ??


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by screamineagle
do you ever think before you type? You'd probably be the first to cry if you were in her shoes and someone passed you over.
Dumbass, I was merely saying that someone that has only been a cop for one year gets promoted to a lieutenant is simply stupid. Especially when there are only 2 or 3 ft cops there, no sergeant anda Chief. I remember one PDs fiasco when they decided to promote brand new females that graduated only a week from the academy into detective positions. You need some street experience and some time before you just get put into these positions.


Posted by: mikemac64

Quote:
Originally Posted by TFORCE
Ever think that maybe she worked FT in other agencies, or has an advanced degree in CJ??
Having an advanced degree in and of itself does not qualify you for anything in Police world. Education combined with experience, with a heavy tilt towards experience, is what earns you respect and gives you the credibility you need to lead in the business.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by TFORCE
Ever think that maybe she worked FT in other agencies, or has an advanced degree in CJ??
I got hired with a master's degree and I wouldn't expect nor would i have accepted a promotion to LT with a year on the job. Should have some proven supervisory time as a sergeant for at leat 5-7 years before going into that position. I doubt any other surrounding PD will respect her new promotion.


Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
Dumbass, I was merely saying that someone that has only been a cop for one year gets promoted to a lieutenant is simply stupid. Especially when there are only 2 or 3 ft cops there, no sergeant anda Chief. I remember one PDs fiasco when they decided to promote brand new females that graduated only a week from the academy into detective positions. You need some street experience and some time before you just get put into these positions.
If you opened your eyes you would have seen that she had been a patrol officer in other towns before Oakham, DUMBASS.


Posted by: csauce777

Quote:
Originally Posted by TFORCE
I didn't realize we took these jobs for the money. I thought it was because we like going after the bad guys.
Heck, if I wanted to make money I would have taken any job other than law enforcement. There is more to the job than just money.
Dude...noone takes a LT position to "go after the bad guys." You take the LT position for the paycheck, lets face it. While there may be a few, its not everyday that you see the LT in a foot chase or doing a felony stop.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by tarc
Wow, by my math figures, she will make a little over $41K a year as an LT. And who said you can't make money in police work.
Didn't they just advertise on the jobfile for a patrolman's position in Oakham, I believe starting pay was $35K. $41K for an LT, wow. Should be around $90K with Quinn or better.


Posted by: 5-0

I just chuckle when you post. No QB here. And I think the base is closer to 45k. Anyhow, good luck to the part-timers and the anticipated full-timer.


Posted by: Zatch

Did ya see in the article how they included an "internal investigation" in Barre. So umm, does that mean that she wasn't a good cop in Barre? And why wouldn't they have stuck her in as a Sergeant first?


Posted by: tarc

TForce,
Those are generally answers I expect from somebody who has been on the job for less than 3 years or just got out of the academy. You need money to (1) feed and provide for your family, (2) take vacations to get away from all of the BS that we see and face day in and day out, (3) basically live. I've put away bad guys and will put away many more, but I also want to be compensated for having to do and see things that most people don't have to.


Posted by: 5-0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zatch
Did ya see in the article how they included an "internal investigation" in Barre. So umm, does that mean that she wasn't a good cop in Barre? And why wouldn't they have stuck her in as a Sergeant first?
New here huh? We all saw the article, and the reality is that media loves to trash cops. Like it has been said 10 million times on this site, don't make assumptions about people based off an article, and don't be naive enough to think that an 'internal affairs' investigation in Barre is unbiased. I personally don't know what went on there, but think that I have been around long enough to know there is usually 3 sides to a story.


Posted by: MM1799

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
You need some street experience and some time before you just get put into these positions.
Whoa.. you are making sense. You should know by now that isn't allowed in LE-decision making!


Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:
Originally Posted by TFORCE
I didn't realize we took these jobs for the money. I thought it was because we like going after the bad guys.
Heck, if I wanted to make money I would have taken any job other than law enforcement. There is more to the job than just money.
Yes, just imagine the bad guys you can grab as an LT in Oakham.

Gimme a break with the holier than thou attitude.


Posted by: TFORCE

bbelichick

I'm sorry, I did not know that we have someone from LAPD in this forum.
All I was saying was that if you want to make money, you do not want law enforcement as a career!!


Posted by: tarc

tforce,
What does anybody on here belonging to LAPD have to do w/making money. Explain to me why a teacher w/a 4-yr degree and/or an RN w/a 2-yr degree can make $65K+, but a cop w/either degree generally makes about $40K a year? You take any job to make money and work towards retirement. If you don't care about making money and "catching bad guys," then go take a job as a mall security gua.......wait a second, that shifty-eyed juvenile, with the blue jeans and white t-shirt, just ran off without paying for that snow cone. Go get him tforce. Hurry! Hurry!


Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:
Originally Posted by TFORCE
bbelichick

I'm sorry, I did not know that we have someone from LAPD in this forum.
All I was saying was that if you want to make money, you do not want law enforcement as a career!!
Then you work for the wrong PD.

And I don't have to work for LAPD to see more action than a LT in Oakham.


Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by bbelichick
And I don't have to work for LAPD to see more action than a LT in Oakham.





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