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Posted by: Delta784

What's the deal with them? I was at Nantasket Beach the other day, and while the state police had at least two cruisers in the area, I also saw a white pickup truck with white state plates and a shield on the door marked "DCR Ranger" or something similar.

There were two guys in it cruising a parking area, they had some type of badge emblem on their shirts and portable mics on their epaulets. The driver gave me hard looks as I was packing the car to leave, I guess 40+ guys with their wife and young children are on their watch list.

My question is.....what do they do? I can understand having rangers at a historical or wilderness area to do interpretive tours, but I don't know of any such programs at Nantasket....."Here's the beach, and over there is where Paragon Park used to be". That would be the substance of the tour.

I'm not trying to put these people down (except for the one who gave me hard looks), I just honestly don't know why they're there. This is the first year I've seen them at Nantasket.

Posted by: SinePari

Empty trash cans, check gates, parking enforcement, etc. They'll probably merge with the MSP also

Posted by: soxrock75

I used to work for the DCR (then MDC) several years ago when the Rangers were brought in after the SP were "asked" to leave the State House. The Rangers are broken up into 2 groups, interpretive services and patrol. The interpretive guys are out in the Blue Hills etc. giving tours and lectures while the patrol guys go around to the beaches, pools, parks etc. Mostly they are down around the Hatch Shell area when there are events.

In 1998 or so, they started dispatching the Rangers to the "problem" pools in the greater Boston area. One seasonal guy tried to, ummmmmm, exert some authority at the Chelsea pool and was eventually thrown into the deep end, much to the delight of the Latin King members in attendance. Another Ranger was on bike patrol on the Esplanade when he was beaten up and his bike was stolen and never recovered.

So, long story short, they do head out on patrol and serve as mostly a visible deterrent.

Posted by: RodneyFarva

its a new branch of the cmpsa. "Beach Patrol"

Posted by: Tuna

For the most part they are good at what they do when they stick to what they were hired for; park tours, interpretation, flying the flag and such. When they dable in LE that's when they get into trouble. There training is far from MCJTC but some think they have the juice to address the public as enforcement officers. I bump into them in the Worcester area (Regatta Point, Lake Park, Cochituate, Hopkington). Just tell them you saw someone step on a spotted salomander and they're gone for the day.

Posted by: firefighter39

This sounds like a re-invention of the MDC Police - I am sure over the next few years they will evolve into a full service police dept

Posted by: lofu

I too saw them at Nantasket this weekend. I saw two on bicycles and two on foot. I couldn't tell what they had on their duty belt but one of the ones on foot was carrying an AED.

Posted by: rg1283

The DCR rangers I think can right civil fines for littering and the like. Thats about it. Maybe they can get rid of them and pay for a detail. Nantasket Beach and the like are assigned MSP details. Not like in the MDC days when it was an assigned patrol area.

Posted by: SinePari

Quote:

Originally Posted by rg1283

The DCR rangers I think can right civil fines for littering and the like. Thats about it. Maybe they can get rid of them and pay for a detail. Nantasket Beach and the like are assigned MSP details. Not like in the MDC days when it was an assigned patrol area.

Sounds like a good gig...if they let me wear sexy-man shorts like the Lt in Reno 911

Posted by: pahapoika

This sounds like a re-invention of the MDC Police - I am sure over the next few years they will evolve into a full service police dept

wonder if that's how the Mets first started ?

Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinePari

Sounds like a good gig...if they let me wear sexy-man shorts like the Lt in Reno 911

you aint got the legs for it brother! Now if badge bunny or Kate were to.....

Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:

Originally Posted by pahapoika

This sounds like a re-invention of the MDC Police - I am sure over the next few years they will evolve into a full service police dept

wonder if that's how the Mets first started ?

Yup..."squirrel-chasers": gray uniforms and unarmed...remember the book from your childhood, "Make Way for Ducklings"? MDC guy was the "duckling enabler".

Ditto RMV: 1974(?).

RUMOR: Apparently the EPO's are now under the DCR. There is talk of a merger between rangers/EPO's to establish a new PD. EPO's are reportedly not interested...My take: better to put the EPO's (merge) with the MSP and keep the rangers as "square badge".

Posted by: dh18

MEP reports directly to the Secretary of EOEEA (Exec Office of Energy & Environmental Affairs) and is independent of DCR.

The better rumor is that the rangers will not be merged but will get police powers by being appointed Deputy Env Police Officers by MEP and remain where they are (see MGL Ch 21a S 10A, and MGL Ch 21a S 10C). And if I'm not mistaken a few rangers already have this.

Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:

Originally Posted by dh18

MEP reports directly to the Secretary of EOEEA (Exec Office of Energy & Environmental Affairs) and is independent of DCR.

The better rumor is that the rangers will not be merged but will get police powers by being appointed Deputy Env Police Officers by MEP and remain where they are (see MGL Ch 21a S 10A, and MGL Ch 21a S 10C). And if I'm not mistaken a few rangers already have this.

I don't know...thats why it's "rumors"

...I would think that the EPO's would be a good fit with MSP...Just my opinion, it's a pretty involved speciality that could be accommodated by the SP...

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Posted by: mtc

Environmentals always respond and are quite helpful. I always thought Rangers just wiggled door knobs.

I too saw them on bikes at Nantasket, pedaling in pairs. I'd never seen a live one before.

The Boston area DCR pools are patrolled by MSP on detail.

Posted by: pahapoika

thought they might have given the Rangers guns after they posted them at the state house a couple years ago.

haven't seen them down Nantasket yet.

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by pahapoika

haven't seen them down Nantasket yet.

My kids love the beach, so I'm there probably 20 times per summer, and this is the first year I've ever seen them.

Posted by: pahapoika

My kids love the beach, so I'm there probably 20 times per summer, and this is the first year I've ever seen them.

spent a few summers there as a teenager. great place when the park was open, kids from all over the south shore and those Weymouth girls..............

i get down there a couple over the summer. i like the end of the beach now , less riff-raff.

will keep an eye out for those Rangers

Posted by: quality617

I've seen them doing road jobs on Storrow Drive.

How? and Why?

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by quality617

I've seen them doing road jobs on Storrow Drive.

How? and Why?

Did you see them on the road? Usually they stick to the parks and esplanade near the Hatch Shell. Whenever I see a road job, it is always a Trooper.

Posted by: USMCTrooper

Quote:

Originally Posted by quality617

I've seen them doing road jobs on Storrow Drive.

How? and Why?

I call BS on that statement. Maybe they hang around the lawn mowing crew trying to feel important but thats not a detail...........

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCTrooper

I call BS on that statement. Maybe they hang around the lawn mowing crew trying to feel important but thats not a detail...........

Several years ago, I did see MDC Rangers on Furnace Brook Parkway (MDC/DCR road) very early in the morning (3-4am). They were either doing the detail, or decided to park their green & yellow pickup truck with the amber/red lights flashing behind the road construction crew for the hell of it.

Posted by: Vader

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCTrooper

I call BS on that statement. Maybe they hang around the lawn mowing crew trying to feel important but thats not a detail...........

No...that was the Sheriff's Department.

Posted by: dh18

Rangers have in the past worked "details" on the MDC ways. I believe they had to exhaust the MSP detail list first and then could open it up to rangers.

I've seen them trailing street sweepers on Memorial Drive and directing traffic when they repaved part of Morrisey Blvd. but both of those were several years ago so maybe the policy changed.

Posted by: Deputydog522

I used to work for the MDC Park Rangers. And while I worked there I thought to myself what am I doing. Most of the time your just hanging out at a pool, or at the esplanad. I was assigned with another ranger to go from boston to the New Hampshire border and lock up all the beach houses and gates on the mdc parks. i was on 3pm-11pm, and liked it. It was easy you could go wherever you wanted and had freedom. We had a chevy blazer with red,white,and orange lights. They did give us blue and red flashers for the rear for traffic purposes. But overall it wasnt bad, it was mostly boring. I still do not understand why they still have them around. For them merging with the EPO's forget about it. They wont merge with anybody. I did here possibly that they were trying to make some kinda park police or something. I really do not think that would happen either. The most I really think will happen will be that they get rid of them all together.

Posted by: quality617

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCTrooper

I call BS on that statement. Maybe they hang around the lawn mowing crew trying to feel important but thats not a detail...........

No BS. It was about a year ago or so, if memory serves me, but on at least two occasions I saw work crews doing god-only-knows-what on the roadway and both times there was a green MDC Park Ranger vehicle, red lights a-blazing, right behind the crew. Ranger Smith was out of the vehicle in his lime-green jacket keeping a watchful eye on the traffic.

Now, it may have been an MDC deal since, come to think of it, I haven't seen a DCR ranger in the same role, but I'm telling you I saw it. Maybe one of the troopers from the Leverett Circle barracks can enlighten us.

Posted by: Coppyboy

The DCR rangers are mostly un armed. They were created after the MDC cops became one with State Police. They have the power to detain, to write parking tickets, and even police on their properties which include streets(YES SOME REAL STREETS), parks, beaches, etc. They are cpr trained, and also must enforce many rules depending on the area. They DO NOT empty barrels because that is a maintainence job but some good natured DCR rangers will pick up trash. They try and promote safe environments, and they use a radio system that goes directly to the state house, the governors office, and they can link up with local PD, state police and EMS in a matter of moments. They are helpful, but will call in police force which, believe it or not, will respond in a matter of seconds in most cases, and are just as effective as a visual deterrent as an actual presence. The DCR cares about conservation issues as well as general law and safety issues, and will definately help with many situations. The bike patrol as well as foot and vehicle patrols serve as a way to interact with community and visually survey areas of interest
The 2007 summer is the first year in many years with full time ranger staff at Nantasket from what I understand, and they are there to assist lifeguards with safety issues, enforce drinking and leash laws as well as parking and other safety laws, and to give information to new comers to the area

All in all the rangers fall into two groups, interpretive parks rangers, and patrol enforcement rangers, each are chosen from a group of many qualified applicants, some from millitary backgrounds, active or inactive, others for communication skills, and are placed accordingly. The rangers also do security details for construction work, to assure public cognacence, and safety at times of equipment usage in highly busy and populated areas.

(my brothers best friend is a DCR ranger, and he works very hard, and is always interested in the betterment of the people at his facility. He says they have a good repor with the cops, and a few hope to become cops, but together, and with the radio dispatch through statehouse they work smoothly to be an effective source of info and safety!) I wish i was qualified!

HOLLER

MDC doesnt exist anymore, DCR is mdc, MWRA owns the water stuff, DCR has a few roads, and as far as details, DCR rangers can do them whenever they want They dont have to ask state police first. if its DCR gig, with DCR machines or property its DCR details, but obviously seniority amongst the rangers decides who gets first dibs. they can also pull you over if you are on their road. and they drive nice white trucks now, green are mostly maintainence and road crews

Posted by: Inspector

In all fairness...before we jump all over Rangers, let's realize that it maybe a good entry-level law enforcement job. In some areas, like national parks, it can become a career. In places like Lowell there are armed National Park Rangers who drive cruisers, respond to alarms in federal buildings and check park property. I've even seen rangers in Lowell chase down and help LPD with apprehension of fleeing suspects. I know National Park Enforcement Rangers train at FLETC in Georgia. I once knew a guy who worked summers as a police officer at Hampton Beach and spent winters as a seasonal ranger in places like California etc. Last I heard he was working with the Alaska State Troopers.

Posted by: dh18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

The DCR rangers are mostly un armed.....

... they can also pull you over if you are on their road......

Mostly unarmed? Are you inferring that some DCR rangers are armed?

They can do MV stops? Under what chapter and section? So they do this with red and amber lightbars and while being "mostly unarmed"?

Posted by: Coppyboy

well i say mostly unarmed to cover my ass becuse some may have licenses to carry mase or what not and i am not sure as to the restrictions therein
If you are licensed to carry those types of things you can, however I do not know if within the job description it can say that they cannot carry them while on patrol. yes they can pull people over on roadways with red and amber lights if they own the roadways. However it appears that for the most part only the higherups such as LTs or CPTS drive the automobiles equiped with said lights, and also they seem to dispatch to police when the time comes.. they own certain roads, and parkinglots, they can ticket you, Ive seen them do it, and read the tickets, just as expensive as others, with an appeals process and all!

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

The DCR rangers are mostly un armed.

So, there are some that are armed?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

They were created after the MDC cops became one with State Police. They have the power to detain, to write parking tickets, and even police on their properties which include streets(YES SOME REAL STREETS), parks, beaches, etc.

Can you reference where in the MGL they are given powers of arrest?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

they can also pull you over if you are on their road.

Assuming the motorist stops, then what?

Posted by: KozmoKramer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta784

Assuming the motorist stops, then what?

I'd be thinking "why is this a-hole from the DPW on my ass????"

Posted by: soxrock75

I think that CoppyBoy is trying to "Talk Up" the Rangers a little and give the impression that they are more LE than they really are. Hell, his first post sounded like a recruiting pitch. Notice how when he started getting called out on his post, he quickly backpedaled. Maybe he is a seasonal ranger that got his job for the summer through his local State Senator, who knows?

However, all DCR Rangers are UNARMED. Just because they may have a Class-A doesn't mean they can start carrying on the job.

Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:

Originally Posted by quality617

Maybe one of the troopers from the Leverett Circle barracks can enlighten us.

Lower Basin Station (it never was a barracks).

No offense, Qual...some traditions must be maintained to preserve the histories of the various departments.

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Posted by: quality617

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs2244

Lower Basin Station (it never was a barracks).

No offense, Qual...some traditions must be maintained to preserve the histories of the various departments.

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Sure thing.

Posted by: Edmizer1

A guy I work with used to be a DRC ranger. There are a few District managers who have been deputized as EPOs. There is only a handful and they have cars with blue light bars. There are no regular rangers with arrest powers. They do have authority to write some civil tickets for park rule violations (littering, parking). I think they also have authority to write some sort of speeding ticket as a park rule violation (not ch 90).

My co-worker told me that they had the ticket books taken away from them at some point. Not sure if they ever got them back.

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by KozmoKramer

I'd be thinking "why is this a-hole from the DPW on my ass????"

to clean up, why else?

Posted by: C73

I work daily with the old DEM, now DCR rangers at Myles Standish, Massasoit, Scusset, Horseneck and Wompatuck. They are not armed in fact are not even allowed to carry O.C. Their main functions are to educate the public as to the parks rules and regulations, assist with medicals, perform search and rescue, and pretty much be the eyes and ears in the parks. If Joe Camper doesn't listen to them they call us or MSP. They do not have blue lights but because Park Ranger historically are members of the Forest Fire Crew a few vehicles have the reds to the front with reds and one blue to the rear. They are first responder certified and a few well funded parks have AED's.
The full time Rangers ( I beleive there are only 5, outside of the old MDC facilities in town.) have been through the R/I academy. They and the seasonal rangers can only issue parking citations. If I remember correctly they do have non-criminal authority but no V-books. They used to be issued the EPO citation books but that no longer happens.
I have worked a few road jobs on MDC parkways with Rangers. When H troop can't fill the details the rangers are allowed to work them. They only receive overtime pay not detail rate.
The Rangers down here in the trees are all top notch and perform well with no real LE aspirations or delusions. I can't really speak for those in town with all the concrete and beach sand.

C73

Posted by: Delta784

C73....I take it you're an EPO?

If so, could you PM me? I have a question you can probably help me with.

Posted by: southwick34

MDC Police and Registry Police consolidated with MSP in 1992. Leaving the old uniforms, radio's etc for the then existing MDC Park Rangers. Seasonal Rangers were mostly sons/daughters of State Reps/Senators and State Mucky mucks. I can list a few I worked with but won't.
Do NOTHING job. Worked there for 2 summers and still don't know the purpose of the agency. But Yes alot of the Rangers I worked with went on to become prominant members of the Criminal Justice System.

Posted by: billb

Well if it is anything like the US Park Service the LE Rangers and the Tour Guide Rangers are completely different... they just work for the same people... and the LE folks are academy trained... just like the Environmental cops in mass... they are just assigned to the parks and recreational areas municipal police and state troopers aren't.

Oh yeah.. but we should still bash them.. just because.

Posted by: quality617

I had to do a double take driving by the former Mets radio shop next to the Museum of Science.

There was a PU truck in the driveway, with a DCR decal on the doors, and painted forest green with a gold stripe running the entire length.

It looked like.........naw, don't want to say it. I'm going to assume it was a surplus purchase.

I also saw a couple of DCR rangers on bikes riding by North Station yesterday. It was just, I dunno, kinda weird.

Posted by: billb

I read something a week or so ago about all the State Rangers being pulled from the parks and rec areas in central and western mass and placed closer to Boston in a knee jerk reaction to terrorism...

How are these guys going to thwart terrorism and now who is keeping the kids from leaving empty beer cans and used rubbers in the state owned parks along Route 2?

Posted by: rg1283

Cmpsa

Posted by: Coppyboy

sox rock unfortunately I did not really backpedal. I did not know if they could carry a thing of mase, but def not a gun....i am not hyping them up, i just dont want u saying a job is useless. if you look there are patrol rangers as well as interpretive rangers......so some do work in LE.. i am not a seasonal ranger, although when i checked they make more then local PD at nantasket....so pretty sweet gig.....

Easy on personal attacks, i thought this was an informative blog

Posted by: Coppyboy

delta, they own many road ways including partial parts of storrow drive and small streets in Hull.. how much these rangers actually police and pull people over, who knows, because local PD are usually quite efficient. C73 is speaking of interpretive rangers, and public education is in fact in their job description. but different training is for different sites and different applications. Also if u thought why is this a hole DPW guy on my side, your mistaken because the DPW is a local town organization that works with the hgihway dept etc, but the DCR is a state run organization that is infact more then maintainence. there are many brances to the DCR, although i will give u it is not as pwerful as the MDC was

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

delta, they own many road ways including partial parts of storrow drive and small streets in Hull.

The DCR owns many streets and roads throughout the state. What you said was;

"They have the power to detain, to write parking tickets, and even police on their properties which include streets(YES SOME REAL STREETS)"

I'm simply asking where they derive their police authority from.

Posted by: phuzz01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

i thought this was an informative blog

bwahahaha, that was your first mistake...NOOB!

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

i am not a seasonal ranger, although when i checked they make more then local PD at nantasket....so pretty sweet gig.....

Easy on personal attacks, i thought this was an informative blog

More than the local PD? Ummmmmm, I don't think so. A DCR Ranger I starts out around $27,000/yr. I am sure that the Hull PD make a little more than that. Get your facts straight.

Posted by: C73

Hey Einstein,
What part of I work with the DCR Rangers everyday did you not understand? I was not referring to the interpretative rangers.
The Rangers (non-interpretative) do not have the authority to conduct M/V stops. Go back, read my previous thread twice, say Ohhh, and then go back to Myspace.

C73

Posted by: SouthSideCobras

Two pictures of the older MDC vehicles

Posted by: MM1799

Coppyboy if the rangers are infact making traffic stops, I have a feeling they would rather the police not know.

Posted by: 94c

I thought you needed blue lights to pull people over?

Every time I pull over for the red fire engine lights they just keep going past me.

Bastards.

Posted by: Coppyboy

ill give u that, i was miss informed......the rangers make more then seasonal PD....

The DCR can block roadways, work with traffic etc, MV violations fall under chapter 9 which the DCR rangers do not have a part in but they can block roadways and detail people until PD arrive. again sorry for mis speaking. I am clearly not the only mis informed one on this blog however

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

The DCR can block roadways, work with traffic etc, MV violations fall under chapter 9 which the DCR rangers do not have a part in but they can block roadways and detail people until PD arrive.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/gl-9-toc.htm

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

ill give u that, i was miss informed......the rangers make more then seasonal PD....

Coppyboy, how come whenever you make a statement and people give you evidence to the contrary, you are always misinformed? Then, even though you say you don't, you backpedal furiously? Also, I still think that a Hull Summer PO makes more than $12/hr. like the Rangers do. I don't know, maybe I am misinformed.

Keep digging that hole, it's getting nice and big now.......

Posted by: southwick34

Love those old pics of the Ranger Trucks! We used to beat on those things! Remember the "Arbella" That the boat we used to beat on

Posted by: Tuna

Hey Coppyboy, when you mention that the DCR rangers "detail people until the PD arrive." does that mean wash, wax and buff out? Hey C-73, good post! C-53

Posted by: dh18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuna

Hey C-73, good post! C-53

That's not saying much Tuna, we all know how easily you're impressed. Just look at your box-o-death, anything shiny and you're all excited...

Posted by: Deputydog522

In no such way are the DCR Rangers Law Enforcement, Or that they will ever bee Law Enforcement. Lets end this thread. Who cares!!!!

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputydog522

In no such way are the DCR Rangers Law Enforcement, Or that they will ever bee Law Enforcement. Lets end this thread. Who cares!!!!

I say we let him tread water some more. It's only a matter of time before the wacker can no longer stay afloat and then the bubbles appear.

After all, he does have Chapter 9 powers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta784

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/gl-9-toc.htm

I believe he is referring to...

CHAPTER 9. DEPARTMENT OF THE STATE SECRETARY

Chapter 9: Section 2. Deputies; assistants; civil service

Section 2. He may appoint a first deputy, a second deputy, and a third deputy and a fourth deputy each of whom shall perform the duties of a division head,

I guess it's similar to one potato, two potato, three potato, four.....
five potato, six potato, seven potato more...

Posted by: Deputydog522

94c IS THAT WHAT YOU USE!

Posted by: Coppyboy

hey soxrock.....that is 100% accurate, they make more then seaonal hull PD, second of all, your a bitch......bye

Posted by: frank

I think this thread is going down the tubes...the 'b' word just came out.

Posted by: Tuna

Turn up the flames

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

hey soxrock.....that is 100% accurate, they make more then seaonal hull PD, second of all, your a bitch......bye

Poor kid, he obviously can't take the heat. He should go back to Nantasket and hang around the rangers some more. Maybe they will let him be a Junior Ranger and fetch them their coffee.

Can you be a whacker if all you want to be is a Non-LE Park Ranger? If so, I think we found one.

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by soxrock75

Maybe they will let him be a Junior Ranger and fetch them their coffee.

Posted by: Deputydog522

Lets shut it down!!!!!!

Posted by: 94c

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deputydog522

94c IS THAT WHAT YOU USE!

Nah, I would rather be part of the squirrel protection program and try to figure out how to get the words "Law Enforcement" on my patch.

Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94c

Nah, I would rather be part of the squirrel protection program and try to figure out how to get the words "Law Enforcement" on my patch.

I'm with the "secret" squirrel protection program...we don't need no stinkin' patches...

Posted by: southwick34

Metropolitan District Commission (MDC) became Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR) like "Screech" from "Saved by the Bell" became Marilyn Manson. Got it now! -Southwick34 on the prowl

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by southwick34

Metropolitan District Commission (MDC) became Department of Conservation and Recreation (DCR) like "Screech" from "Saved by the Bell" became Marilyn Manson. Got it now! -Southwick34 on the prowl

I thought "Paul Pfeifer" from "The Wonder Years" became Manson???

Posted by: Deputydog522

Yeah it was Paul from the wonder years that became manson. skreecth was on NYPD Blue. Lets close this thread!!!! It is getting rediculous.

Posted by: lawdog671

Can't believe I read 8 pages of this...
Where I'm at now there are rangers. Parents are connected which is how the job came about. At work, operates a golf cart, assists injured wildlife, helps campers attach electricity, hangs out, and generally confuses her position with my authority. Their badge is just like MSP/EPO badges. Anything more than that and it's "call the state...". Super nice kid, but they don't really do much. It's DCR civilian employee in security guard uniform. Which is fine, if you can get a gig like that.
They can write parking gigs inside the park. As far as being armed, they had a mounted unit years ago that carried but is long since gone, at least to best of my knowledge. At state house they fool dumb terrorists into thinking there's thousands of cops there,so dnt waste your time with an attack. MSP has a contingent there, and along with Governers security detail, BPD and other troopers in area will be alright without the park rangers.
Oh and for the record, Park rangers dont "own" any roads.

And remember....ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES!!!

Posted by: masscopguy

A summer gig as a DCR Ranger on one of the Harbor Islands would be sweet. A lot better than the summer job I had one year as a locker room attendant at the MDC Pool in East Somerville. The kids from the Mystic Ave projects would regularly come in with blades, weed and other assorted items and demand we hold it for them.

The Rangers who work up at the State House don't break a sweat but the pay is on the very low end.

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by masscopguy

A summer gig as a DCR Ranger on one of the Harbor Islands would be sweet. A lot better than the summer job I had one year as a locker room attendant at the MDC Pool in East Somerville. The kids from the Mystic Ave projects would regularly come in with blades, weed and other assorted items and demand we hold it for them.

The Rangers who work up at the State House don't break a sweat but the pay is on the very low end.

Ahhhh....Foss Park. That place was a borderline combat zone. Was Zeke the manager there at the time? He never left the office at all............

Oh, by the way, Zack was the Saved by the Bell actor that made it to NYPD Blue. Screech is more famous for his "leaked" Porno tape that conveniently came out when his house was being foreclosed on. I think he evn had a website like "SaveScreech'sHouse.com" or something. Recently he was on the latese season of Celebrity Fit Club on VH1.

Posted by: 94c

I thought a DCR was one of those papers that says you're not supposed to save somebody once their dead.

Posted by: no$.10

LOL, D-N-R. Do Not resuscitate. Which apparently is exactly what has been done. Breathing life back to the MDC. New name, same game.

Posted by: Coppyboy

soxrock isnt a cop

Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coppyboy

soxrock isnt a cop

I see Coppyboy is back...a week later. Of course Soxrock isn't a cop...he's a 'bitch'...you said so here yourself last week. Well, okay he could be a 'bitch' and a 'cop' at the same time, couldn't he? But if he's a "he", he can't be a 'bitch', can he? Would that make him a 'stud'? Just wonderin'.

In any event, whats your point?

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Posted by: SPINMASS

CoppyBoy, please tell us all about your experience in Law Enforcement. I have a feeling it won't even come close to Soxrock's experience. For the record I have been with Soxrocks on some great arrests that he has made.

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPINMASS

CoppyBoy, please tell us all about your experience in Law Enforcement. I have a feeling it won't even come close to Soxrock's experience. For the record I have been with Soxrocks on some great arrests that he has made.

Thanks SpinMass for those kind sentiments. Did you hear that V91 was "asked" to resign? I fell on the floor laughing when I heard that one! What goes around comes around!!!

Posted by: Tuna

Coppyboy should put his diaper on, grab his PBJ and warm milk and run home to Mommy. He is way out of his league here and doesn't even know it. Although I will admit that the thread is entertaining.

Posted by: chief801

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinePari

Empty trash cans, check gates, parking enforcement, etc. They'll probably merge with the MSP also

Never, they are over qualified....

Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief801

Never, they are over qualified....

Chief Massengill, is that you?

Posted by: dave7336

[quote=lawdog671]Can't believe I read 8 pages of this...

It could be worse....I just read 9 pages of this thread!!!

Posted by: MtBiker

Enabling legisation for park rangers outside the 128 beltway, i.e. the former DEM State Parks, now DCR State Parks.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/132a-7a.htm

PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT

TITLE XIX. AGRICULTURE AND CONSERVATION

CHAPTER 132A. STATE RECREATION AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE METROPOLITAN PARKS DISTRICT

Chapter 132A: Section 7A. Chief park ranger; park rangers; violations of environmental regulations; non-criminal disposition

Section 7A. There is established within the department of environmental management, division of forest and parks, the position titles of chief park ranger and park ranger, provisions of the General Laws or any special law to the contrary notwithstanding. Said positions shall not be eligible for the provisions of Group (4) retirement benefits.
The chief park ranger and park rangers appointed and employed by the department of environmental management, when appointed deputy environmental police officers, shall enforce all regulations promulgated pursuant to section four A of chapter twenty-one, and section seven of chapter one hundred and thirty-two A and section sixteen of chapter two hundred and seventy, shall search for lost or missing persons or department property, and shall assist the bureau of fire control in both suppression and detection of fires.
A park ranger who has been appointed as a deputy environmental police officer who observes any violation of regulations promulgated pursuant to said section four A of said chapter twenty-one, and said section seven of said chapter one hundred and thirty-two A, may request the offender to state his name and address. Whoever upon such request refuses to state his name and address may be arrested without a warrant and shall be punished by a fine of not less than fifty dollars and not more than one hundred dollars. Said ranger may, as alternative to instituting criminal proceedings, give to the offender a written notice to appear before the clerk of the district court having jurisdiction at any time during office hours within twenty-one days after the date of such violation. Said notice shall contain the name and address of the offender, offense charged, signature of the officer and option of the offender acknowledging that the notice has been received. The clerk of courts shall maintain a separate docket of all such notices to appear.
If any person notified to appear before the clerk of the district court fails to appear and pay the fine provided hereunder or, having appeared, desires not to avail himself of the procedure for the non-criminal disposition of the case, the clerk shall notify the ranger concerned, who shall forthwith make a criminal complaint.
Any person notified to appear before the clerk of the district court for a violation of said section four A of said chapter twenty-one, and of said section seven of said chapter one hundred and thirty-two A, may so appear within the time specified and pay a fine of fifty dollars. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, all fines and penalties recovered for violation of rules and regulations made under authority of this section shall be accounted for by the clerk of the court and forwarded to the department of environmental management to be deposited as revenue and shall be applicable to the department’s retained revenue account.
Park ranger may, through independent contractors, remove from any area or way subject to their jurisdiction or control and store in any convenient place any vehicle parked or standing thereon in violation of any law, or rule and regulation, except a vehicle owned by the commonwealth or a political subdivision or by the United States or an instrumentality thereof or registered by a member of a foreign diplomatic corps or by a foreign consular officer who is not a citizen of the United States and bearing a distinctive number plate or otherwise conspicuously marked as so owned or registered; provided however, that such removal and storage shall be at no expense to and without liability on the part of the commonwealth. Liability may be imposed for the reasonable cost of the removal, and for the storage charges, if any, resulting upon the owner of the vehicle.

Authority of Park Superintendants
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/132a-7.htm

PART I. ADMINISTRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT

TITLE XIX. AGRICULTURE AND CONSERVATION

CHAPTER 132A. STATE RECREATION AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE METROPOLITAN PARKS DISTRICT

Chapter 132A: Section 7. Rules and regulations; concessions; powers and duties of forest supervisors, park superintendents and laborers

Section 7. The commissioner, in consultation with the director of the division, may make rules and regulations for the government and use of all property under the control of the division, including all roads and highways wholly or in part within the boundaries of such property, including rules and regulations relative to hunting and fishing, except in great ponds not inconsistent with the laws protecting fish, birds and mammals. Such rules and regulations may also provide for the payment of fees and other charges for the parking of vehicles and for the enjoyment of other special privileges within the territory under such control. The commissioner shall cause such rules and regulations to be posted in the territory to which they apply. The sworn certificate of the director of the division that the same have so been posted shall be prima facie evidence thereof. Violation of such a rule or regulation shall be punished by a fine not exceeding twenty dollars. The commissioner may grant concessions for the sale of refreshments and other articles and the furnishing of services within any such territory.
Forest supervisors, park superintendents and laborers employed by the division, while employed in state forests, state parks or reservations, including roads and highways, shall, within the limits of said forests, parks or reservations, except great ponds, have and exercise all the powers and duties of constables, except service of civil process, and of police officers, if so authorized in writing by the commissioner.
The enforcement officers of the office of law enforcement shall, within the limits of such forests, parks or reservations, including roads and highways, except great ponds, have and exercise all the powers and duties of constables and of police officers except service of civil process.

Primary regulations that they would enforce
http://www.mass.gov/dcr/legal/downloads/3041200.pdf

Link to all cmr's under DCR.
http://www.mass.gov/dcr/legal/regulations.htm

Posted by: chief801

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbelichick

Chief Massengill, is that you?

No, this is his brother, Chief Summers Eve....

Have ya missed me?

Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtBiker

Enabling legisation for park rangers outside the 128 beltway, i.e. the former DEM State Parks, now DCR State Parks.
http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/132a-7a.htm

...and don't forget their primary mission: protecting picnic baskets at Jellystone State Park...

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Chief801, strawberry or egg cream flavor? (SNL too many years ago...

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Posted by: dh18

ch 132a s 7a only applies when the ranger is appointed as a deputy environmental police officer, which i believe only a handful of the full time former dem rangers are.

ch 132a s 7 is only in effect when authorized by the commissioner in writing and if you notice does not list rangers and someone who would benefit from this section.

Posted by: pahapoika

for what it's worth i did see a ranger blocking off a parking lot on Carson Beach this past week. there was a big tent set up on the beach. guessing some some sort of inner-city event ?

anyways the Troopers were doing the traffic control and the rangers were doing parking lot duty.

what or if any of that falls under "law enforcement" duties , i don't know

Posted by: chief801

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs2244

...and don't forget their primary mission: protecting picnic baskets at Jellystone State Park...

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Chief801, strawberry or egg cream flavor? (SNL too many years ago...

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Great obscure reference!

Posted by: Delta784

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcs2244

...and don't forget their primary mission: protecting picnic baskets at Jellystone State Park.

Posted by: southwick34

For what its worth I spotted a DCR Park Ranger SWAT unit rappling down on Castle Island in South Boston. Careful down there!
-Southwick34

Posted by: soxrock75

Quote:

Originally Posted by southwick34

For what its worth I spotted a DCR Park Ranger SWAT unit rappling down on Castle Island in South Boston. Careful down there!
-Southwick34

Yeah......to get an ice cream at Sullivan's!!!

Posted by: pahapoika

For what its worth I spotted a DCR Park Ranger SWAT unit rappling down on Castle Island in South Boston. Careful down there!

DCR has SWAT ?

COOL !

i knew those guys were high speed

Posted by: SPINMASS

Soxrocks, I had heard that about our friend. If only it had been sooner.

Posted by: southwick34

What's the deal with the assaults on the esplande? Where are the DCR Ranger presence?

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