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New Police Task Force Formed CMLEC

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Posted by: SouthSideCobras

New police task force is formed

By John Dignam TELEGRAM & GAZETTE STAFF
jdignam@telegram.com

A recent drug bust in Webster involved two Dudley residents, police from four towns and a drug-sniffing dog from Southbridge.

The arrests were the result of an investigation by a newly organized regional task force that has formalized long-established informal contacts among Dudley, Webster, Southbridge, Charlton and Oxford police departments.

Southbridge Police Chief Daniel R. Charette said the group is focusing on illegal drug activity “and all the little crimes that go along with it, the low-level street crime that really is a big nuisance to society.”

He said some regional police task forces address major drug crimes, such as people “dealing in pounds of cocaine. We’re looking at the small, local dealers, the ones who are doing it every day, the kids who are breaking into cars.”

“We’ve always had great communication, but this brings it to another level,” said Charlton Police Chief James A. Pervier. He noted that five of the six towns served by Dudley District Court are in the task force. Sturbridge did not join.

About 20 communities are members of the Central Massachusetts Law Enforcement Council, a regional police task force that provides high risk warrant service, special weapons and tactics, search and rescue and help in crisis situations.

Chief Pervier is CMLEC unit control officer and Southbridge Police Sgt. John Mulcahy is CMLEC team commander.

While one town’s police departments can help another town in a crisis, the mutual aid agreement of this task force gives the police departments greater authority in working with other towns at other times and reduces liability should someone be injured, Chief Pervier said.

Chief Pervier said the new task force also makes more police officers available to the member towns for surveillance and for undercover work.

“One of the things that isn’t incorporated in that (CMLEC) is ongoing information sharing as far as investigations go,” Chief Charette said. “Part of what’s important to us with this new piece is the simple geography of our little area. We’re very much interconnected,” he said.

“A lot of people involved in criminal activity, most of it in illegal narcotics, are bouncing back and forth between our towns. We share a lot of the same people,” Chief Charette said.

“This is such a mobile society,” Chief Pervier said. “That handicaps us in a lot of small municipal departments. This allows us to use each other’s assets. It expands our abilities to thwart crimes at no extra cost to each community.”


Posted by: MM1799

Quote:
a... police... force that provides high risk warrant service, special weapons and tactics, search and rescue and help in crisis situations.
Hm, sounds familiar..


Posted by: Macop

Good for them!!


Posted by: mpdcam

Hoo Rah!. The more the merrier.


Posted by: Wolfman

Here we go again. See how merry you are when you realize your property taxes are paying for services in another town. “This is such a mobile society,” Chief Pervier said. “That handicaps us in a lot of small municipal departments. This allows us to use each other’s assets. It expands our abilities to thwart crimes at no extra cost to each community.” -You mean to tell me all these guys are doing this work for free? If I'm paying one of my cops to enforce laws in another town, that sure seems like an extra cost to me.

I thought that the LECs were only for "emergency situations" and mutual aid, like hostages and mass casualty incidents and fugitives running through the Home Depot? There are already established drug task forces throughout the state. Maybe now that some of the HS funding is dwindling it's time to reinvent the wheel and save some phony-baloney jobs.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

Regional drug task forces are nothing new, as a matter of fact these were around way before the LECs, now they just placed it under LEC control due to federal funding. Perfect example of a good structurd an well implemented regional drug task force is WEB(W.Bridgewater,E.Bridgewater and Bridgewater PD). Although not members of any LEC they formed their own SWAT,Drug task force,Computer Crimes, etc, and it's only a 3 department task force, qualifies for grants same as LECs. I think that WEB should be the way to go as an example, three to our communities at the most, they work very tight together,strong mutual aid agreements, all officers are sworn in each other's towns and very quick responses to their incidents between themselves.


Posted by: nevrehc

Does Plainville PD belong to this. I live there, just curious how my town operates?


Posted by: Macop

The LECs are a very good idea, and they are here to stay.


Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Letter to the Editor Worcester T&G

Friday, July 13, 2007
Regional police force waste of tax money

In reading an article on July 2, in which the formation of a new regional drug task force is celebrated, I could not help but focus on the last sentence. “It expands our abilities to thwart crimes at no extra cost to each community.”

As Chief James Pervier knows, the most cost-efficient use of regionalized police services is utilization of the resources of the Massachusetts State Police. They provide narcotics investigators, SWAT, crime scene, detectives and every other possible asset, for free. These resources have already been paid for by our tax dollars, and come to us at no extra cost to our police department or our taxpayers.

Functions such as SWAT are best left to highly trained, full-time SWAT professionals who are provided to towns, for free, by the state police. Participation in CEMLEC does cost each town’s taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars. To say otherwise is foolish.


Our police chiefs know this, and we should demand they tell us the cost. While many chiefs say that grants have paid for their participation, what happens when the grant money runs out? The choice is clear.

It’s my desire that Mr. Pervier manage our town money very well. I propose that instead of wasting money on this wasteful regionalization he should spend the funds on repairing the cruiser fleet. That, and other moves to enhance the safety of the officer on patrol, would be a more worthy expenditure. Stop wasting our tax dollars on CEMLEC.

TIMOTHY R. WHELAN

Charlton


Posted by: Macop

Stop your bitching!!


Posted by: USMCTrooper

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macop
Stop your bitching!!

Why, because he made a lucid, insightful, convincing statement?


or because its not what you wanna hear..........


Posted by: MM1799

It's the same argument every single Trooper on this site had made and got shit from "others" about hating locals, etc. Maybe some of you will understand it isn't about MSP vs local when some random civilian makes the same point.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
Maybe some of you will understand it isn't about MSP vs local when some random civilian makes the same point.
How is anyone supposed to know who "Timothy R. Whelan" of Charlton is, and where his personal interests lie? He could be Trooper Timothy R. Whelan for all anyone knows.


Posted by: Mitpo62

Take lessons from the south and west. Regional policing leads to many territorial issues which empowers the local sheriffs. We already see locals here in Bristol County doing "community policing" events with the local sheriff's office. Pandora's box should remain closed. "Metro" policing just doesn't work.


Posted by: MM1799

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
How is anyone supposed to know who "Timothy R. Whelan" of Charlton is, and where his personal interests lie? He could be Trooper Timothy R. Whelan for all anyone knows.
Personal interests? Do those all of a sudden trump the fact that he is a resident and pays taxes? Even if he is a Trooper, is he not a taxpayer and a resident of whatever town/city? Does his opinion as a taxpayer not count because he is a Trooper? He pays taxs and has a problem with a waste of money (as he sees it) that CEMLEC is. Should he just accept it because his chief says so?


Posted by: countryboy

what I don't get is how come we need to spend all this money on these special response teams/vehicles ect., when we already have most of this readily available through the MSP. Departments should be more concerned with everyday police work rather than wasting money on resources we already have. What I am trying to get at is there are cities in this state that need more officers on the street to handle calls for service, and stuff that is happening right now, Yet they are worrying about getting money for something that really they don't need because its already provided for them. Money is spent to wastefully in this state.


Posted by: OutOfManyOne

I am neither for or against these LECs as long as these police services are done by POLICE and not sheriffs. My PD utilizes MSP for everything and I like it because instead of wasting that $$$ on other LEC things that money is going into our budget for OT and other equipment that all of us can get and not just a select few in the PD. I think there's plenty of bad dudes out there for staties and locals to mingle with and money will always be there somehow it always comes around. As far as LEC future goes I seriously do not think they are going to be disbanded anytime soon. I see NEMLEC and others growing more and more to a level that most local officers including myself think is bizzare. But like I said, more power to everyone, just do your job,make some money and enjoy the ride. Stay safe.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
Personal interests? Do those all of a sudden trump the fact that he is a resident and pays taxes? Even if he is a Trooper, is he not a taxpayer and a resident of whatever town/city? Does his opinion as a taxpayer not count because he is a Trooper? He pays taxs and has a problem with a waste of money (as he sees it) that CEMLEC is. Should he just accept it because his chief says so?
Methinks I hit the target.

You described Mr. Whalen as a "random civilian" (your emphasis). I merely pointed out the fact no one knows if he's either random or a civilian.


Posted by: 94c

[quote=SouthSideCobras]New police task force is formed

By John Dignam TELEGRAM & GAZETTE STAFF
jdignam@telegram.com

A recent drug bust in Webster involved two Dudley residents, police from four towns and a drug-sniffing dog from Southbridge.

We’re looking at the small, local dealers, the ones who are doing it every day, the kids who are breaking into cars.” [quote]

Sounds like a great use of resources to me. Multi-towns, dogs, and we are focusing on what?

Sniff, Sniff, I smell regionalization and grant money.
Nothing more nothing less.
It too shall pass.


Posted by: PBC FL Cop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
He could be Trooper Timothy R. Whelan for all anyone knows.
If I were a betting man...


Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCTrooper
Why, because he made a lucid, insightful, convincing statement?


or because its not what you wanna hear..........



Posted by: Irish Wampanoag

Quote:
Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne
Regional drug task forces are nothing new, as a matter of fact these were around way before the LECs, now they just placed it under LEC control due to federal funding. Perfect example of a good structurd an well implemented regional drug task force is WEB(W.Bridgewater,E.Bridgewater and Bridgewater PD). Although not members of any LEC they formed their own SWAT,Drug task force,Computer Crimes, etc, and it's only a 3 department task force, qualifies for grants same as LECs. I think that WEB should be the way to go as an example, three to our communities at the most, they work very tight together,strong mutual aid agreements, all officers are sworn in each other's towns and very quick responses to their incidents between themselves.
absolutely I agree


Posted by: GuyS

Task Forces should be made up of state and local. The state has excellent resources, manpower and training, however, the local guys know the people in their communities, they get the informants and have been in the buildings that may be targets of illegal activity. If both worked together instead of us vs. them, they could create one hell of a task force.


Posted by: MM1799

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta784
Methinks I hit the target.

You described Mr. Whalen as a "random civilian" (your emphasis). I merely pointed out the fact no one knows if he's either random or a civilian.
I don't know Mr. Whalen and I don't really care. I was basically saying his views were on par with what many Troopers have said however they get flamed and are called instigators for the whole MSP vs Local bs that goes on.

Either way -- I have been on long enough to see things fade away and some stay. I work the road. The only thing I give a damn about is where my backup is coming from.


Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
I don't know Mr. Whalen and I don't really care. I was basically saying his views were on par with what many Troopers have said however they get flamed and are called instigators for the whole MSP vs Local bs that goes on.
And, if there were a pro-CMLEC letter to the editor and it turned out to be a member of CMLEC, you would no doubt point-out the obvious bias. All I was highlighting was that there is no way to tell who writes a letter to the editor, unless one personally knows them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
Either way -- I have been on long enough to see things fade away and some stay. I work the road. The only thing I give a damn about is where my backup is coming from.
I'm not particular where it's coming from, I'm more concerned when it's getting there.


Posted by: Deuce

Quote:
Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop
If I were a betting man...

You'd win...


Posted by: dave7336

Quote:
Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop
Letter to the Editor Worcester T&G

Friday, July 13, 2007
Regional police force waste of tax money

In reading an article on July 2, in which the formation of a new regional drug task force is celebrated, I could not help but focus on the last sentence. “It expands our abilities to thwart crimes at no extra cost to each community.”

As Chief James Pervier knows, the most cost-efficient use of regionalized police services is utilization of the resources of the Massachusetts State Police. They provide narcotics investigators, SWAT, crime scene, detectives and every other possible asset, for free. These resources have already been paid for by our tax dollars, and come to us at no extra cost to our police department or our taxpayers.

Functions such as SWAT are best left to highly trained, full-time SWAT professionals who are provided to towns, for free, by the state police. Participation in CEMLEC does cost each town’s taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars. To say otherwise is foolish.


Our police chiefs know this, and we should demand they tell us the cost. While many chiefs say that grants have paid for their participation, what happens when the grant money runs out? The choice is clear.

It’s my desire that Mr. Pervier manage our town money very well. I propose that instead of wasting money on this wasteful regionalization he should spend the funds on repairing the cruiser fleet. That, and other moves to enhance the safety of the officer on patrol, would be a more worthy expenditure. Stop wasting our tax dollars on CEMLEC.

TIMOTHY R. WHELAN

Charlton
why don't you use the State Police stationary when you write this letter? Or at least admit that you are a State Trooper with a personal axe to grind? I am just guessing that you might be the same guy listed under the Boston Herald's "wasting tax payers money" link....if you are not the guy listed under the Department of State Police search, I will admit my mistake and move on...

as a whole, I won't go into the state/local argument...but on drug issues, don't you think that the locals know the regional players a little better than a trooper that lives in say Plymouth but is working in Reading...besides if the information flows both ways, it is a benefit to all.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuyS
Task Forces should be made up of state and local. The state has excellent resources, manpower and training, however, the local guys know the people in their communities, they get the informants and have been in the buildings that may be targets of illegal activity. If both worked together instead of us vs. them, they could create one hell of a task force.

I agree with this 100%...the state has more resources to go after the large suppliers while the locals know the local players and can go after them..unfortunately drug activity usually crosses town lines so there is a need to COOPERATE (that sounds sensible) with each other and get the job done...just like the taxpayers want


Posted by: youareadolt

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
Personal interests? Do those all of a sudden trump the fact that he is a resident and pays taxes? Even if he is a Trooper, is he not a taxpayer and a resident of whatever town/city? Does his opinion as a taxpayer not count because he is a Trooper? He pays taxs and has a problem with a waste of money (as he sees it) that CEMLEC is. Should he just accept it because his chief says so?
well i pay taxes too and i'd like to see more troopers helping on the highways and spending less time trying to do everything else. but we all know that'll never happen because once a guy gets out and realizes how goddam boring driving up and down the highway is they want on to a special unit and with all these regional teams cutting into there business things get a bit tight. please spare us the same old song and dance we all see through your smoke and mirror show. oh, and i'm still waiting for the LEC's to fold like many of you know-it-alls have predicted for years now. you're all a pack of Dolts.....


Posted by: Sircopalot

Pretty bad post Dolt.
The lecs are still carrying on...Although some starting to show some cracks and a few are crumbling. Metrolec (Norfolk Cty) major sponsor city is Walpole. Walpole just voted down 5 Million dollar override inwhich many Walpole residents criticized the fact that Walpole PD has been sending officer out of town on numerous occasions at their expense. When ask how many times the PD has used Metrolec in Walpole the Chief answered zero. The Chief then went to say that if he calls the State Police it will cost nearly 50% more, as he described how the Troopers salaries were vastly higher than Walpole officers. I think the Chief left out the fact that Walpole probably wouldnt have to pick the tab for the Troopers. As a result the town administrator now says leaving Metrolec is on the table. It all comes down to $$$$. Right now the State Police have it (At least more than others) and nobody else does....


Posted by: MM1799

Dolt; I am sorry to disappoint but I really don't feel like arguing with a wannabe cop who likes to stir up trouble. Feel free to call GHQ and leave your comments/complaints.


Posted by: screamineagle

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
Dolt; I am sorry to disappoint but I really don't feel like arguing with a wannabe cop who likes to stir up trouble. Feel free to call GHQ and leave your comments/complaints.



Posted by: bbelichick

Quote:
Originally Posted by youareadolt
well i pay taxes too and i'd like to see more troopers helping on the highways and spending less time trying to do everything else. but we all know that'll never happen because once a guy gets out and realizes how goddam boring driving up and down the highway is they want on to a special unit
Go to a lot of exciting calls as a Mall Cop, do ya?




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