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Posted by: kwflatbed

Crackdowns by urban police may be pushing teen toughs into suburbia

Malcolm Carnes

By JOHN P. KELLY
The Patriot Ledger

The murder of a Randolph teenager this past week, portrayed by authorities as payback in a feud between rival groups of teens, highlights a constant suburban concern: that big city youth violence is spilling into their streets.

Law enforcement officials hesitated to call the shooting death of Ezekiel Cuthbert, 17, gang-related. Norfolk District Attorney William Keating described the attack - a brazen shooting outside a Main Street gas station at rush hour Wednesday - as ‘‘another instance of violence and senseless bravado by youth groups.’’

The shooting followed a monthlong spate of retaliatory crimes between the groups, according to a Randolph police officer, who estimated that more than a dozen teens were affiliated with each side.

Inside the police department, the groups have been referred to as gangs, though they are not believed to be involved in organized crime, according to the officer, who asked not to be named because of a department policy against speaking to the press.

Malcolm Carnes, a 16-year-old from Randolph, who was quickly arrested, has pleaded innocent to the killing.

Last month in Randolph, police said, a mob of 15 youths armed with sticks and knives burst into a home on Reed Street. Hours later, an 18-year-old was stabbed repeatedly in the neck, chest and back in an apparent retaliation, the police said. Eight people were charged in the two crimes.

Police officials in several South Shore departments said this past week that no gangs have taken root in their communities. But they said there is a need for awareness of the possibility and cited out-of-town gangsters passing through as a growing problem.

State Police Lt. Frank Hughes, a member of the State Police gang task force, said Boston gang members are known to have operations in Brockton and Lynn.

Hughes said police crackdowns can lead gangs to seek new turf, and the need to supply drug dealers in outlying areas of the city can also lead to a gang presence in suburbia.

Other times, suburban gang violence is a matter of rival members crossing paths by chance.

‘‘They may be there for a hip-hop concert, a wedding or some social occasion when they run into a member of a competing group,’’ Hughes said.

Police in Braintree said confrontations between rival inner-city gang members who come to South Shore Plaza have become somewhat common.
‘‘Sometimes there’s a verbal exchange; sometimes there’s more than that,’’ Deputy Chief Russell Jenkins said.

Abington Police Chief David Majenski said officers regularly find weapons.

Full Story: http://ledger.southofboston.com/arti...ews/news01.txt

Gangs spill into suburbs

By Maureen Boyle and Mike Underwood, Enterprise staff writers
Drive-by gang shootings in cities may be leading to drive-through attacks in suburbia as gun-toting youths from Boston and Brockton roll through nearby towns.

The shooting death of 17-year-old Ezekiel Cuthbert in Randolph Wednesday and the arrest of 16-year-old Malcolm Carnes in the killing highlights what law enforcement officials say may be a growing problem for many smaller communities: gang violence spilling across town lines — or gun-toting criminals moving to the suburbs.

And the signs of gangs are cropping up online and in the streets.

“You see it in the dress, you hear it in the language, you see it in their pictures on MySpace,” Raynham Police Chief Louis J. Pacheco said.

Pacheco said his department has MySpace photos of area, suburban youths making gang signs on their personal pages and signs of gangs can be seen on the streets of nearby Taunton.

Avon Police Chief Warren Phillips said any of the 35,500 cars passing daily through his town of 4,443 residents on the Brockton line could have a gun inside — and a person willing to use it.

“Even though we don't have any gangs in the community, I'm sure there are gangs passing through in town,” Phillips said.

Abington Police Chief David Majenski said his officers regularly find weapons and there's always the chance a gang member might drive into town.

Full Story: http://www.southofboston.com/article...ews/news05.txt

Posted by: BB-59

This is one area we (instructors) down here in SEMPTA have been doing our best to get this message out to the officers we train.

The biggest problem is the smaller towns that feel this problem only effects Big Cities. Many of these gangs use the towns as storage areas for drugs, guns and other things away from raids, and attention.

I know many folks on this sight prefer corrections (state and county) should be seperate from LE. But these areas are information hot beds. Many gang members still run the show from behind the wall.

The point I am making is don't throw away advantages, due to prejudice or territory. Many of these gang members have military style training and can and will do some bad things to us if we don't pull together.

Posted by: epd111

The East Coast Gang Investigators Association is a fountain of information and knowledge transfer. www.ECGIA.org

The northeast is heavily represented in it membership.

Ed

Posted by: Sniper

LT Frank Hughes.......... The MAN, The MYTH, The LEGEND.

Posted by: LA Copper

I would highly recommend that the local police departments take these "youth groups" seriously. Hit them hard now, before they have a chance to grow and spread into the local towns. Once they get a foothold, they will be very difficult to irradicate. Otherwise, this is just the beginning.

Posted by: adroitcuffs

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Originally Posted by LA Copper

I would highly recommend that the local police departments take these "youth groups" seriously. Hit them hard now, before they have a chance to grow and spread into the local towns. Once they get a foothold, they will be very difficult to irradicate. Otherwise, this is just the beginning.

I whole-heartedly second that!! Communities 100 miles east of Los Angeles and north of San Diego which previously enjoyed relatively gang-free communities are now seeing an exponential increase in gang activity. The "wannabes" you think are harmless are prime recruit candidates and will have a dangerous effect on your neighborhoods before you know it!!

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