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Just curiosity about some MSP history...

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Posted by: CTrain

I remember when I was younger, my Father (no affiliation with LE in any sense) was telling me how great of a career being a Trooper would be. Now, I was young, but if I remember correctly he was telling me that the MSP was one of the last Police agencies in the US to change it's discriminatory recruitment qualifications. He said that he remembers when he was young, Troopers all had to me male and at least six foot tall. I'm all for diversity in any field, just curious as to if there is any truth in this statement. Thanks if anyone knows



Posted by: Wolfman

They also had to be able to chew up soup cans and spit out tin foil.



Posted by: no$.10

It is still true.



Posted by: screamineagle

and pee napalm.



Posted by: CTrain

It was just curiosity, I did not think that it sounded too far-fetched...



Posted by: Killjoy

I'm not really sure when the MSP gave up its height requirement...its certainly not in place anymore. We still wear the 30's-era boots and breeches, that's gotta count for something!



Posted by: 94c

if you go back far enough you'll find there were no women in policing also.

Cell phones didn't exist, no cable tv, and the internet was for space aliens.



Posted by: USMCTrooper

Did I ever tell you about the time I killed a Grizzly bear with my pocket notebook?



Posted by: Inspector

What do you mean "no cell phones?" I remember as a kid there were no portable radios, later they were larger than a brief case foot officers had to use call boxes. Retired toopers can recall when the New Hamshire State Police used to have certain gas stations etc. raise flags when they wanted the trooper to call in as they had no radios at all. The only females on the job were called "matrons" and took care of female prisoners.



Posted by: midwatch

I remember, way back in the day when I started, we had no MDT's. I don't know how I survived.



Posted by: Duff112

Quote:
Originally Posted by midwatch
I remember, way back in the day when I started, we had no MDT's. I don't know how I survived.


LoL... it's too funny how true that is.. When ours go down I don't know what to do with myself... even worse is when the registry's down...



Posted by: chief801

Do you remember when "punch a 28" wouldn't get you sued?



Posted by: no$.10

Quote:
Originally Posted by midwatch
I remember, way back in the day when I started, we had no MDT's. I don't know how I survived.
I remember that day, too. It was yesterday.



Posted by: nevrehc

Portable radios? 2 hours ago a trooper in Western Ma responded to a domestic without a portable. Well, the portable was on the belt, however, it is used as a striking tool if needed. Just stupid in this day and age. Maybe we should put up a blue light box on the corner of the town square for the guys to call in on.



Posted by: masscopguy

About what year did Troppers stop living at the barracks? How long did a shift last back then?



Posted by: Tango

There is a copy of this book in every library in the state. Worth checking out for those whom are interested. Alot of cool pictures and stories.



Posted by: 94c

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector
What do you mean "no cell phones?" I remember as a kid there were no portable radios, later they were larger than a brief case foot officers had to use call boxes. Retired toopers can recall when the New Hamshire State Police used to have certain gas stations etc. raise flags when they wanted the trooper to call in as they had no radios at all. The only females on the job were called "matrons" and took care of female prisoners.
When I came on there was only one portable assigned to each on duty cruiser. There were no radios for detail officers.

How about a hot summer day wearing a vest and no such thing as air conditioning. Guys would go to the junkyards to find window cranks for the back of the cruisers to let some air in.



Posted by: CTrain

Tango, I actually just ordered that book tonight from Amazon. If anyone is interested, I found it NEW for rediculously cheap. From what I've seen, it usually sells for well over $100, I found it for under $40...



Posted by: Foxy85

Why is the badge worn on the pocket flap?



Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxy85
Why is the badge worn on the pocket flap?
Cross strap. Also, military ribbons are worn above the left pocket (class A).



Posted by: USMCTrooper

My first cruiser had no AC, no AM/FM radio, no scanner and no portable radio. I equipped it with a CB radio to communicate with some of the local police dispatch centers who monitored Ch 9. Who remembers that?



Posted by: MM1799

My first cruiser was the Dodge St Regis. I think that says it all.. Forget communication; I was lucky if the lights worked and the cruiser did the speed limit.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by USMCTrooper
My first cruiser had no AC, no AM/FM radio, no scanner and no portable radio. I equipped it with a CB radio to communicate with some of the local police dispatch centers who monitored Ch 9. Who remembers that?
They had CB radios back then?


Quote:
Originally Posted by MM1799
My first cruiser was the Dodge St Regis.
That was actually a very highly-rated police car for the time. Then again, the late-70's to late-80's was a pretty dark time for police cruisers overall.



Posted by: dh18

I think this one's older...






Posted by: dcs2244

Whelps! My first cruiser was a 1976 Dodge Coronet. It had a Motorola low band radio (see "Dragnet) and two bat-handle switches on the dash: one for the gumball and one for the wigwags. There was a Federal signal generator box: wail and yelp. No rechargeable flashlight, no cage and four doors (two w/o cranks or latch handles). We did have Motorola HT's, though. My last cruiser, a 1998 Ford LTD CV, had a GE lowband (see "Emergency").

Isn't it interesting that we are still using electronic technology from the middle of the last century...every day?



Posted by: Wolfman

Quote:
Isn't it interesting that we are still using electronic technology from the middle of the last century...every day?
...and it works better than the new tech!



Posted by: Inspector

How about when a lot of local departments had no emergency lights, a button on the dash which activated the mechanical siren under the hood and some had "Harvey" radios? Cities like Lowell dispatched for surrounding towns (Regionalization back then) like Dracut, Tewksbury, Chelmsford, Westford and Tyngsboro all on the same frequency



Posted by: dcs2244

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfman
...and it works better than the new tech!
You're right, Wolfie! There is still a lot of the HF (42 MC) GE stuff from the mid sixties in service.

Back in the seventies, the state was on one freq: channel 1. Station W used to whine because L-5 overrode their transmissions...

I'll be retired before the 800 MC system is in full serve at Troop B.


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Posted by: SinePari

Quote:
Originally Posted by dcs2244
I'll be retired before the 800 MC system is in full serve at Troop B.
Unless they move Mt. Tom further west, you're probably right.



Posted by: OldNancy

Quote:
Originally Posted by midwatch
I remember, way back in the day when I started, we had no MDT's. I don't know how I survived.
Our cruisers still don't have MDT's. We're still calling in 9 and 10's.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Inspector
How about when a lot of local departments had no emergency lights, a button on the dash which activated the mechanical siren under the hood and some had "Harvey" radios? Cities like Lowell dispatched for surrounding towns (Regionalization back then) like Dracut, Tewksbury, Chelmsford, Westford and Tyngsboro all on the same frequency
I think Amesbury and Merrimac still share a frequency.





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