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This sickens me.

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Posted by: Wolfman

(This isn't an email forwarding or chain letter. This is the God's honest truth from the Wolfman.)

We all see the pathetic whining central and south americans claiming that they have a right to invade our country and become squatters - and we owe them a home here.

A few years back a South African couple (white SA) who were employed by Pfizer (I believe) moved in next door to my parents. They were here on a temporary work visa and were truly some of the kindest people I have ever met. They had a son here in the States, who is therefore a US citizen. They attempted to become naturalized but were unable, partly due to their employer not supporting their efforts (in defense of the employer, they had been burned numerous times by supporting employees naturalization just to have the employees quit once they became citizens) and partly due to their visas expiring so close to 9/11. They also tried to emigrate to Canada but were unable to comply with the French language requirement (hmm, need to speak the language before becoming a citizen...)

While here they worked hard, paid taxes, and were better neighbors and people than most of the dregs who occupy our welfare hotels and city slums. Unfortunately, when their visas expired they had to return to South Africa, where they found a home in Johannesburg.

They still email regularly with my parents, sending photos of their son and daughter, who I believe was born after their return to SA. The following is their latest email (some personal stuff may have been edited)

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Dear D_____, R__ and friends on H_________

 Thank you so very much for your lovely letter. I have been wondering how things are over there but having misplaced your email address and never trusting our mail service I figured we would send mail and hope for the best. It is great to hear from you. Sorry it has taken me so long to reply but we have been away since Thursday and only got home this morning. We took the kids to the beach as Connor was on a month's School vacation. They are both going back again tomorrow. The kids are doing great. They seem to grow while I'm not watching and I am permanently amazed at how quickly we have to replace shoes and the like. However, they are both just great.

Connor has started his Kindergarden year this year (our schools run January to December) and he is loving it. I can't believe that he is already 6. Last year he was in the same school but in a Preschool class and got up to alot of mischief but this year finally he seems to have found a teacher that is happy to stimulate him beyond what she does with the other kids and he is having a ball. He is swimming with an instructor and loves it and will soon be starting Baseball (if we can get out schedules worked out).

Kendra believe it or not will be turning 3 in July. She is a bright little button and we have her in a small preschool 1 road over from our house (The school is owned by our neighbour). She goes 3 times a week and loves it. She is very sprightly and is involved in just about all activities from Pottery to Gymnastics and Ballet. She is still as tiny as ever. Barely fitting into 2T and happily only weighing about 26lbs but she is feisty and funny and an absolute joy. She drives Connor crazy but I can't think that he would want it any other way. They are always together.

We are still staying in Johannesburg in the same house as when we lasted visited and it is fine for our purposes. We have done alot of work to the place and now have a pool, entertainement area and a seperate apartment in the garden for guests. It is very comfortable for us and I honestly can't see myself moving around in SA again. We are however working on immigrating to Canada and have already submitted our applications. Now we just have to play the waiting game. Thankfully they have dropped the French requirement and so our chances of acceptance seem quite good. Compared to living in the states it is like living in a prison. We have an 8ft wall around the property, electric fencing on top of that, a motorrised gated, burgular bars on all the windows, slamlock doors on all the entrances, deadlock bolts on all the door and a burgular alarm throughout with sensor lights and a huge German Shepard called Fudge who does nightime patrol around the garden. Terrible to live like this but you won't believe some of the horror stories that we have happening over here. Two members of Craig's exteneded family were murdered last year in their homes and on both occassions they came through the roof while they were sleeping so now we have an alarm system in the rafters in the roof also. I can think of so many better things to do for my kids than have them subjected to this kind of life. Daily we hear about little girls 3 and under being raped and boys being stolen and sodomised. They deserve better, and yet the President does not believe that we have a crime problem. Canada can't come quick enough for me.

 Now that the kids are both in school, I have decided to go back to school and am trying to bridge my Degrees into a teaching degree so that I have something to do when we go to Canada. Also the hours that I woudl have to work here if we had to stay just do not seem fitting for a family life so I have decided to move on. I am currently doing a course on Counselling Traumatised Children and it is facinating. We will just have to wait and see how things work out. I won't be going to work before Kendra is 5 anyway so this is just preparation for that event.

 Craig is doing very well. He and his brother, Michael, still have the business and they have now expanded into importing and Printing. They have quite a substantial customer base and thankfully they actually enjoy each other's company so they tend to do OK with the business.

My dad lives a couple of streets away from us and loves it. He stops in every other day or so on the way home and sees the kids for a couple of minutes and he couldn't be happier that we are so close. However he was hijacked in his driveway 2 Friday's ago by three armed men but thankfully they did not hurt him. They also did not get the car as they stalled it and the antihijack mechanism kicked in, so they fled the scene leaving him quite traumatised. My mom keeps trying to encourage him to retire which he has attempted a few times in the last couple of months but the company keeps tempting him back. This time I think he will finally call it quits as he was on his way to work when it happened. I think he realised that his life is just too predicatable and that is what makes him such an easy target.

Both my parents turned 65 in April and we gave them a surprise party with all their friends which they enjoyed immensely and on Friday is my mother-in-laws' 65th so we are taking her out for the day on Saturday. We shall see how that goes.

Craig and I and the kids will be leaving on Sunday for Spain for 14 days. We are off to see the GrandPrix in Barcelona for the first week and then are travelling to the Malaga area in the south for another week before returning home. We are quite excited about it as we were in Europe over 13 years ago and have always wanted to return. It will be interesting with the kids but I wouldn't think of leaving them so this will be our trial run for future Europe travels.

 I have quite a few pictures up on the Kodak website that I post for Sarah and Jeffrey and I will send you the links so that you can see how the kids have grown.

I am very sad to hear about A___ and E___ and most especially about J____. I know that it had to come to this eventually but it is just so very sad for something like this to happen to someone so very special. If you see her please send her my love. We think about you all often and not a day goes by that we don't both wish we were back there. I hope that your health will improve rapidly now that summer is coming and you can get out and about a bit more. It is so much easier to face adversity when the sun is shining than when you have to stay indoors and think about it all the time. As always, I know that you will put on a brave face and smile for I had never seen any other reaction from you when faced with health issues. We are thinking about you and sending lots of good wishes.

Hope this hasn't been too overlong and boring but there is so much to say and so little time to write it all down. I have grabbed a moment while all is quite on the home front.

 Please send my love to all over there and thanks again for the letter. Keep well and send lots of love to R__ and the others.

 Michelle and Family.

 PS: We will be coming over for a visit again in December. Have booked tickets from 6th to 31st. Can't wait and have already begun to plan our trip. Will write more next time. Bye.
It sickens me that those who try to do things the right way are denied citizenship and sent "home" to this kind of life, while the thousands of illegals in this country have the audacity to protest in our streets and our elected officials stand by and support them.



Posted by: Delta784

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Originally Posted by Wolfman
It sickens me that those who try to do things the right way are denied citizenship and sent "home" to this kind of life, while the thousands of illegals in this country have the audacity to protest in our streets and our elected officials stand by and support them.
Very well-put.


Posted by: Rock

This is an excellent post Wolfman. I posted about a similar/unique situation on this site a long time ago about a girl who had never been in trouble, was in the U.S. not of her own volition (brought here when she was 2 years old) and was always an excellent student that knew NOTHING about her birth country except what she read in books or on-line. She is now 20 and is facing deportation to a country where she knows NO ONE. These are the type of people that need to stay and the parasites need to go. To many immigrants come here and think, "all I have to do is apply for aid, and not get arrested and America will take good care of me" It's for this reason I get pissed that people on this site post one liners like, "SHIP 'EM ALL OUT". Get an educated opinion instead of sweeping everyone with the same brush.


Posted by: badogg88

Wow. I remember as a kid watching a movie on the Disney Channel about some spoiled rotten white South African girl and a black South African girl who was their families slave. Ever since then, I think of South Africa and get nervous for all the people there, white or black. As bad as Bush is, and as awful as this country is with the murders and crime, I still would not want to live anywhere else.


Posted by: JoninNH

+1 for the story, Wolf.


Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

You miss the point Rock, In Wolfs post BOTH PARENTS WERE HERE LEGALLY AND LEFT WHEN TOLD TO DO SO now theyre trying to get back LEGALLY. Thats how its supposed to be done.The fact that there are 12 million people here ILLEGALLY is the reason its taking them so long to get back. So yeah, ROUND the lawbreaking borderjumpers up and ship them back so that those that are willing to follow our laws can come here.


Posted by: JoninNH

Amen!


Posted by: kwflatbed

The key word is LEGALLY.

Good Post wolfman, I think we all may know someone who
is worthy of living in this country and got screwed by the
ILLEGALS.


Posted by: kttref

Stories like that make me want to be able to deport people so badly. Great post. I think I speak for everyone when I say, I hope your friends get their application approved soon! Wish them all the luck in the world from all of us...


Posted by: KozmoKramer

This story points to the crux of exactly what this battle is truly about.
It's not about immigration, it's about LAWFUL immigration, and permitting immigrants into the country that can actually produce and become valuable members out our shared CULTURE.
I say it’s about appropriate immigration reform, not more race based quotas to support a corrupt 3rd world shithole.

We don't need lettuce pickers, office cleaners, landscapers and pool men. We already have those; their called WELFARE RECIPIENTS.
We have a plethora of able-bodied lettuce pickers sitting on their lazy asses collecting welfare, section 8, fake disability claims (aka drug and alcohol addiction), and WIC. Put them to work.

Deport the illegals and put the snot nosed, entitled 16 and 17 yo’s to work doing that particular type of work.
Didn't we do shit work when we were teenagers? I know I did. And it taught me that working in a shirt and tie was better than working in overalls and work gloves.
Kids learn valuable lessons from hard work and really valuable lessons from hard, dirty work.

The folks in Wolf’s story are EXACTLY the type of immigrant we need.
And before you construe my statement as bigoted, I would make the same claim to any race or ethnicity if they shared our common culture and national values.
I’ll take 10,000,000 Mexicans over 1 Irishman if those Mexicans believe in hard work, honesty, bettering their lives, and contributing to the common good, but unfortunately that’s not what I see.

What I see is an overwhelming out of wedlock birthrate (which they cannot support, so we're forced to), I see nationalism for Mexico, not the United States, I see criminality and lawlessness, I see dependency, entitlement, and a sentiment that the south-west is pilfered property of Aztlan.

We’re dying folks. While they are assembling and taking to the streets DEMANDING AMNESTY, we’re watching the ballgame.
When they’re lobbying in Washington, we’re trying to make ends meet by working 8, 10, or 12 hours a day. But mark my words, especially to those of us with kids. Kids that we hope have the same America that we grew up in. We better do something and fast. Call your representative in Washington. Call your senator. Write the damn president.
Do what ever it takes to make your voice heard that you will not support a candidate that does not believe in serious immigration reform.

But remember, if you do call your senator, make sure you press 1 for English.


Posted by: CJmajor27

Wolfman, thats one of the best posts I've read in awhile. I sympathise with your friends as both a fellow African and Legal immigrant. Unfortunately its a tough road for legals and Kozmo is right on about immigration reform. My mom had to wait 10 yrs to get her immigrant visa and bring us along. I've heard of people waiting 20 yrs. Thats too long for families to wait and alot resort to the illegal route cause that obviously gets more benefits. Unfortunately for us legal immigrants, the illegals are just making it harder for us and that is very sad.
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I say it’s about appropriate immigration reform, not more race based quotas to support a corrupt 3rd world shithole.
Kozmo, I don't think I've heard of a race based quota supporting anyone. I know the state dept. offers Temporary protected status to individuals from countries that are torn apart by war or natural disasters. But so does other western nations. Just not sure about race quotas. I know by law, more immigrant visas are available to regions of the world that have seen less migrants come here over the yrs. Such as eastern europe gets more alloted to them than western europe. Far east asia gets less alloted to them than near east and so on. From what I've seen, I'd have to respectfully disagree with your statement.


Posted by: KozmoKramer

Quote:
Originally Posted by CJmajor27
Kozmo, I don't think I've heard of a race based quota supporting anyone..
Well I wonder if you've been reading the papers or watching the news CJ.
Let me ask you. Have you heard of amnesty? Are there many Koreans or Swedes seeking amnesty? Those that are looking for amnesty, which country are they from?

Do you see the chimp in the Whitehouse ordering those illiterate, unwashed, unskilled, uneducated, anti-American Mexican criminals back from whence they came? Do you see the anti-American left ordering the same? Well, neither do I. Thus, if they wont enforce the law, from which a very specific demographic is breaking it, I have to conclude that allowances are being made for that particular race. I care not whether its a matter of policy, its a matter of real life, and you should start thinking for yourself and not what your liberal professor instructs you to think.


Posted by: Rock

Quote:
Originally Posted by justanotherparatrooper
You miss the point Rock, In Wolfs post BOTH PARENTS WERE HERE LEGALLY AND LEFT WHEN TOLD TO DO SO now theyre trying to get back LEGALLY. Thats how its supposed to be done.The fact that there are 12 million people here ILLEGALLY is the reason its taking them so long to get back. So yeah, ROUND the lawbreaking borderjumpers up and ship them back so that those that are willing to follow our laws can come here.
With all due respect I believe you too are missing my point. This girl was BROUGHT here (yes illegally) but she did nothing wrong. She did not have a choice and now the person that brought her here has passed away leaving the mess in her lap. She has grown up as an American without the status. She did not "jump any boarders" nor did she come here with an idea of sucking off of the citizens of this country. This is a person that has the intelignece and motivation to become someone that could contribute. Do you realy believe she should be sent back after reading both of my posts? There is more to the story but I won't bore the masses. I understand Wolfmans story and there are many like it.


Posted by: justanotherparatrooper

Sorry Rock, I just dont believe 'we can save the world'. EVERY illegal immagrant has a hard luck story. I understand WHY they come here just cannot accept that they violate the laws of this country.


Posted by: CJmajor27

Quote:
Originally Posted by KozmoKramer
Well I wonder if you've been reading the papers or watching the news CJ.
Let me ask you. Have you heard of amnesty? Are there many Koreans or Swedes seeking amnesty? Those that are looking for amnesty, which country are they from?

Do you see the chimp in the Whitehouse ordering those illiterate, unwashed, unskilled, uneducated, anti-American Mexican criminals back from whence they came? Do you see the anti-American left ordering the same? Well, neither do I. Thus, if they wont enforce the law, from which a very specific demographic is breaking it, I have to conclude that allowances are being made for that particular race. I care not whether its a matter of policy, its a matter of real life, and you should start thinking for yourself and not what your liberal professor instructs you to think.
I see where you're coming from but still don't agree with it. We all know the reason immigration laws are not being enforced is because of powerful business interest in the country and sheer politics. Both parties in Washington are guilty as sin on that .I doubt they will make any moves to change the status quo cause it benefits them both and they can therefore throw insults and blame each other. Just politics as usual. Solution? Maybe its time for a third party that has the guts to do something. Just because Mexicans are the majority of illegals, I think is due more to geography than any special treatment. Hispanics have a huge political clout and I'm sure that plays into matters as well. There are many non hispanic illegals here breaking the law too. They just tend to blend in better with the population cause all the focus on illegals is on the mexicans. Being an older student who has had a lot of life experiences, I tend not to listen to professors who try to push their agendas and who only live in the fantasy world of academia. I stay as apolitical as possible but my opinions were formed longed before I sat in a college class.


Posted by: JoninNH

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Just because Mexicans are the majority of illegals, I think is due more to geography than any special treatment. Hispanics have a huge political clout and I'm sure that plays into matters as well.
So which is it?

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Solution? Maybe its time for a third party that has the guts to do something.
There will never be a third party.


Posted by: CJmajor27

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoninNH
So which it?
All of the above and more . I just think there's more to it than just race. A lot of non-hispanic illegals aren't being deported either and I'm sure ICE can find them if they really wanted to. The race factor won't apply to these folks cause they look just like you and me and have anglo sounding names..but they are also breaking the law and not being given the boot. It all boils down to economics and politics not race. Companies want cheap labour and the gov't won't do anything to upset that. They'll do enough to throw the blame around but not enough to change anything. Something that doesn't get alot of airtime is the fact that some of these illegals can't be deported back if their native country refuses to take them back. Then they are stuck here. Some heavy handed diplomacy can fix this but sadly I don't see it happening either.




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