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Posted by: Mitpo62

Things are moving up at BIDMC. The officers there finally carry real firearms and there are some new supervisors on board that are truly worth their salt. Brighter days are truly ahead!



Posted by: RPD931

NICE!.. Congrats BIDMC!!



Posted by: Finding Nemo

Too bad they Back the security guards there and not the cops.......



Posted by: KozmoKramer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Finding Nemo @ Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:48 am
Too bad they Back the secutity guards there and not the cops.......
Secutity? No, Secmytity!



Posted by: Mitpo62

Is it true that a college degree is required in order to get special state police powers under 22C 63?



Posted by: CampusOfficer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62 @ 14 Oct 2004 22:25
Is it true that a college degree is required in order to get special state police powers under 22C 63?
No, graduation from an SSPO academy or MPOC academy will also work.



Posted by: Finding Nemo

Quote:
Originally Posted by CampusOfficer @ Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:18 pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62 @ 14 Oct 2004 22:25
Is it true that a college degree is required in order to get special state police powers under 22C 63?
No, graduation from an SSPO academy or MPOC academy will also work.
an out of state academy will work as well!



Posted by: briand911

if you don't want to go to new braintree if you have 80 college credits (not sure if it has to be Crim Justice). you can still get your state special



Posted by: ssgt905

Quote:
Originally Posted by Finding Nemo @ 12 Oct 2004 09:48
Too bad they Back the security guards there and not the cops.......
It is a shame you are such a moron and couldn't play nicely



Posted by: michaelbos

"To bad they back the guards and not the cops"


Welcome to the world of law enforcement It's the same everywhere



Posted by: Mitpo62

That's great news! Pack the bags Alice, we're going HOME!



Posted by: Finding Nemo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ssgt905 @ Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:04 pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finding Nemo @ 12 Oct 2004 09:48
Too bad they Back the security guards there and not the cops.......
It is a shame you are such a moron and couldn't play nicely


Yeah, Moron. HAHAHAHA





Posted by: Macop

A degree is reqired if you are looking for a waiver!!



Posted by: Finding Nemo

hey mitpo, is it true you are moving back this way from the Sunshine/ hurricane state for a pair of Sgt Stripes at the Bidmc?





Posted by: Mitpo62

Gosh Nemo that sounds like an offer?! Tell me where to sign!



Posted by: Mikey682

political connections put aside, whats the chances of someone with "SSPO Waiver" (Cj degree and reserve academy) getting an interview?



Posted by: ADG0911

If I recall correctly, A DOC academy with a reserve intermittent academy will get you the waiver as well..........correct me if I am wrong..



Posted by: pickels

Quote:
Originally Posted by ADG0911 @ Wed 03 Nov, 2004
If I recall correctly, A DOC academy with a reserve intermittent academy will get you the waiver as well..........correct me if I am wrong..
Yes that will get you a waiver.



Posted by: Mitpo62

Have they hired their new patrol officers yet?



Posted by: Mitpo62

To answer my own question, no new hires yet. I understand the process of finding new officers has been challenging. I wish anyone success in their endeavors for employment at BI.



Posted by: fish4all

The degree has to be in criminal justice not in criminology, sociology etc...



Posted by: union1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62";p=&quot View Post
To answer my own question, no new hires yet. I understand the process of finding new officers has been challenging. I wish anyone success in their endeavors for employment at BI.




Posted by: Mitpo62

Gosh union1 your response is,....well,.....artistic. 'Nuf said.



Posted by: union1

I highly suggest anyone planning on applying to BIMDC STAY AWAY. This department at best is unprofessional nor is it stable. If your a newbie good luck even getting an interview, if your planning on going there from another department DONT leave your job stability.

I have been told first hand that each of your shifts is planned out on a schedule and you have to visit each location at its specified time. If you sont go, "which an officer has done in the past" and report that you were there BAM your fired. There is a reason why this new department still cannot get more than 2 officers to stay. Their brass reviews the medical centers cameras to check up on you "this is also first hand information". Also select members of their brass are about as professional as a member of Securitas, Enough said.

Screw big brother. for all the money in the world. Crack this up as just another Hospital Security gig.



Posted by: copcreamer

No it's not true!!!!!!! Please tell him he's wrong mitpo62. BIDMC is the BEST place to work. You told me yourself. Now THIS!!! I'm so confused. Lies, filthy lies. Oh my,

I almost moved up from FLA for that job.



Posted by: CampusOfficer





Posted by: ryan933

Well, I went through the first interview with BIDMC, and it went well. They asked me back for a second interview, but the date they chose created a conflict for me. You see, my wife is going to have surgery in about a week, and she had a pre-surgery consult with her doctor, surgeon etc. and it was very important for me to be there with her. So, I told the Lt. I was talking to (who was not one of the people I interviewed with the first time) that I would most likely not be able to make it given time constraints with my wifes appointment.

So what does this Lt. tell me....he tells me how competitive the process is and rambles some other crap about needing to move the process along. He said he would put me down for Xpm, and that if I could not make it, they would understand the need to support my wife.

As expected, I was not able to make it for the Xpm interview after going with my wife to her appointment, so I called and left a message for this Lt. stating that I could not make it and that he could call me to reschedule if he liked. No call ever came, and for the best I would say.

What kind of department makes you choose between supporting your wife in the midst of a health crisis, or going to a job interview???

I had to reschedule an interview with another PD recently in order to accompany my wife to another pre-op consult. This particular department handled it very differently. This department said to me "family always comes first" and they rescheduled without a problem. This is the kind of department I want to work for.

This is not to say that BIDMC is all bad. In fact the two guys I interviewed with were very sharp, and I appreciate the info and help from MITPO. This situation just left a bad taste in my mouth.



Posted by: Mitpo62

I'm speechless.



Posted by: RESCOP

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan933";p=&quot View Post
Well, I went through the first interview with BIDMC, and it went well. They asked me back for a second interview, but the date they chose created a conflict for me. You see, my wife is going to have surgery in about a week, and she had a pre-surgery consult with her doctor, surgeon etc. and it was very important for me to be there with her. So, I told the Lt. I was talking to (who was not one of the people I interviewed with the first time) that I would most likely not be able to make it given time constraints with my wifes appointment.

So what does this Lt. tell me....he tells me how competitive the process is and rambles some other crap about needing to move the process along. He said he would put me down for Xpm, and that if I could not make it, they would understand the need to support my wife.

As expected, I was not able to make it for the Xpm interview after going with my wife to her appointment, so I called and left a message for this Lt. stating that I could not make it and that he could call me to reschedule if he liked. No call ever came, and for the best I would say.

What kind of department makes you choose between supporting your wife in the midst of a health crisis, or going to a job interview???

I had to reschedule an interview with another PD recently in order to accompany my wife to another pre-op consult. This particular department handled it very differently. This department said to me "family always comes first" and they rescheduled without a problem. This is the kind of department I want to work for.

This is not to say that BIDMC is all bad. In fact the two guys I interviewed with were very sharp, and I appreciate the info and help from MITPO. This situation just left a bad taste in my mouth.


Keep at it buddy, with the F/T academy behind you it's just a matter of time before you will get scooped up. Goodluck to you and the wife....



Posted by: Finding Nemo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan933";p=&quot View Post
Well, I went through the first interview with BIDMC, and it went well. They asked me back for a second interview, but the date they chose created a conflict for me. You see, my wife is going to have surgery in about a week, and she had a pre-surgery consult with her doctor, surgeon etc. and it was very important for me to be there with her. So, I told the Lt. I was talking to (who was not one of the people I interviewed with the first time) that I would most likely not be able to make it given time constraints with my wifes appointment.

So what does this Lt. tell me....he tells me how competitive the process is and rambles some other crap about needing to move the process along. He said he would put me down for Xpm, and that if I could not make it, they would understand the need to support my wife.

As expected, I was not able to make it for the Xpm interview after going with my wife to her appointment, so I called and left a message for this Lt. stating that I could not make it and that he could call me to reschedule if he liked. No call ever came, and for the best I would say.

What kind of department makes you choose between supporting your wife in the midst of a health crisis, or going to a job interview???

I had to reschedule an interview with another PD recently in order to accompany my wife to another pre-op consult. This particular department handled it very differently. This department said to me "family always comes first" and they rescheduled without a problem. This is the kind of department I want to work for.

This is not to say that BIDMC is all bad. In fact the two guys I interviewed with were very sharp, and I appreciate the info and help from MITPO. This situation just left a bad taste in my mouth.

mine too !





Posted by: GD

Family should always come first!!! Make sure you always remember it when you get a job, keeps the divorce rate down amongst us.



Posted by: copcreamer

\/ Pack the bags alice we're going home (again).



Posted by: Mitpo62

Gosh golly copcreamah, when I grow up I want to be just like YOU!



Posted by: mtr111

Mitpo62:

Where is all this negativity with the BIDMC police department coming from??? I just don't understand the why someone would want to bash the command staff?

Please explain Sir



Posted by: Mitpo62

I'm at a loss for words.



Posted by: union1

Quote:
Originally Posted by mtr111";p=&quot View Post
Mitpo62:

Where is all this negativity with the BIDMC police department coming from??? I just don't understand the why someone would want to bash the command staff?

Please explain Sir

I bash the command staff because thats all there is there. a more direct answer to your question is they have displayed absolutly NO professionality what-so-ever in my dealings with them, and i see by another posting they displayed none with him either.

STAY AWAY, do yourself that favor.



Posted by: Mikey682

I have read some old threads from back when a new group of BIDMC Police Officers were hired back in 2003 and some of them gave thier opinions of the job back then, when they were going through the gun fiasco.

Can any of these same folks say how thier job is now? Any changes for the better?



Posted by: Mitpo62

Well Mikey they have their guns now, Glock .40's, but that original crew from '03 is mostly gone. Only one officer from that group remains. A new police supervisory staff is in place and they are hiring police officers. The police department is still growing and learning its place at the medical center. There is a good core there, along with benefits, pay, and work schedule (4and2). The two police lieutenants that were hired have a long background in law enforcement, are well educated and trained, and strive to do the right thing at BI. In time everything will come together.



Posted by: Mikey682

cool, thanks



Posted by: Future Cop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62";p=&quot View Post
but that original crew from '03 is mostly gone. Only one officer from that group remains. A new police supervisory staff is in place and they are hiring police officers..... There is a good core there, along with benefits, pay, and work schedule (4and2).
Why did everyone leave if the pay, benefits, schedule and working environment is so good there???



Posted by: smallgrey

Why did everyone leave if the pay, benefits, schedule and working environment is so good there???[/quote]


You should absolutely ask yourself that question if considering applying for a position there.



Posted by: Mitpo62

Why not ask that question during the first informal interview? An honest question is deserving of an honest answer. Don't let the rumor mill stop you from throwing your name into the hat.



Posted by: union1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62";p=&quot View Post
Well Mikey they have their guns now, Glock .40's, but that original crew from '03 is mostly gone. Only one officer from that group remains. A new police supervisory staff is in place and they are hiring police officers. The police department is still growing and learning its place at the medical center. There is a good core there, along with benefits, pay, and work schedule (4and2). The two police lieutenants that were hired have a long background in law enforcement, are well educated and trained, and strive to do the right thing at BI. In time everything will come together.

WOOA, lets back up a second there and tell the story like it really is. As far as the crew being gone, that is correct they are prety much ALL gone "not mostly".

The Police Supervisory staff is hiring officers? could you exactly tell me where are these officers they are hiring? I can name 10 people who have applied there and only 2 have gotten called. One couldnt make the ONE day they scheduled for the interview so they cut him, the second.... well... lets not even go down that road

The Department needs to learn its place? I can educate them right here so feel free to direct them here. ITS A HOSPITAL, put all the silver or gold on a uniform you want and strut around like a cop, but in all actuality YOUR A HOSPITAL SECURITY GUARD!

Benefits are good, pay is good however another misleeding thing....they are no longer on a 4x2 schedule. That was taken away and the hospital "needs" dictate what shift you will work.

the two Lt's that they hiried... ill give you they may be educted, and may be well trained I wont dispute that fact. but doing the right thing? I dont know what "right" book your reading from but it must be the Nazi rule book on how to do the "right" thing. A Guys wife is havinng surgery and you disqualify him from hiring. Can someone tell me the nicest way to tell someone to take their jobs and stick it up there @$$ in a nice way?

In time you are right, they will come together. That is when they read my quote about WHO they actualy are.



Posted by: ryan933

In the interest of full disclosure, and following up my previous post in this thread, I did receive a call a day or two later from the Deputy Chief. I was not home, so he left a message asking me to call him. I have reason to believe this call was probably intended to patch things up. However, I do not know for certain because I did not return the call.

Ryan



Posted by: Macop

Ryan why not return the call, sounds like they were making good on the interview and maybe something happened that they could not deal with at the time, just curious.

The Department needs to learn its place? I can educate them right here so feel free to direct them here. ITS A HOSPITAL, put all the silver or gold on a uniform you want and strut around like a cop, but in all actuality YOUR A HOSPITAL SECURITY GUARD

I have to disagree, if they are cops then so be it, there is a difference.
Union, how long have you been at BIMPD



Posted by: mpd61

Macop,

Union1 seems a little pissed-off. Don't you just LOVE his all-inclusive bash of the Hospital Troopers? I know a few V.A. Cops and others who might like to discuss his perception of "hospital security guards"




Posted by: union1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macop";p=&quot View Post
Ryan why not return the call, sounds like they were making good on the interview and maybe something happened that they could not deal with at the time, just curious.

The Department needs to learn its place? I can educate them right here so feel free to direct them here. ITS A HOSPITAL, put all the silver or gold on a uniform you want and strut around like a cop, but in all actuality YOUR A HOSPITAL SECURITY GUARD

I have to disagree, if they are cops then so be it, there is a difference.
Union, how long have you been at BIMPD

im not at BI thank my lucky stars, say all you want about it being great but answer EXACTLY why the old crew is not there after only a year? We dont need to be on Jeopardy to figure this one out.

as far as slamming on "hospital troopers". I was one for a year. im MORE than qualified to state that. As far a Fed VA Police, I can show you just as many of them that say they are security that will say they are police. As a matter of fact, I met a Seargeant or Lt "defintily was not a Patrolman" at the JP VA about a year back who said they are nothing bu "high paid security guards" and described the job as "americas best kept secret". Sorry this is from the Dogs mouth.

Im going to make my new signature say "know your roll"



Posted by: John J

Quote:
Originally Posted by union1";p=&quot View Post
Im going to make my new signature say "know your roll"
I think you mean "Know your ROLE" (see below)

"ROLE"
1. A character or part played by a performer.
2. The characteristic and expected social behavior of an individual.
3. A function or position.


"ROLL"

1. To move forward along a surface by revolving on an axis or by repeatedly turning over.
2. To travel or be moved on wheels or rollers: rolled down the sidewalk on their scooters
3. To move in a periodic revolution, as a planet in its orbit.
4. To turn over and over: The puppy rolled in the mud.
5. To shift the gaze usually quickly and continually: The child's eyes rolled with fright.
6. To turn around or revolve on or as if on an axis.
7. To move or advance with a rising and falling motion; undulate: The waves rolled toward shore.



Posted by: Macop

John I almost fell off my chair in sheer laughter, lol.

Union I did not say I was great, I was just wondering how you know so much about it if you dont work there.

I have a friend who is a VA cop, I guess you can call them security if you want but they are still cops. I did a ride along with him and we were pouncing on cars and switching from state ch 90 to fed m/v laws at will, now thats the shizzel!!



Posted by: John J

Quote:
Originally Posted by Macop";p=&quot View Post
John I almost fell off my chair in sheer laughter, lol.
I also had a "ROLL" with my dinner tonight.



Posted by: union1

Roll also is a term people use for people on a mind altering substance such as EX. was a feble attempt at poking fun at them calling them drug addicts. probly should remember im not on a rave forum here.



Posted by: michaelbos

Union 1, don't burn all your bridges here. There's alot of VA Police officers that didn't like that remark. We still give beatings out on the 3/11



Posted by: Irishpride

Quote:
Originally Posted by union1";p=&quot View Post
....is they have displayed absolutly NO professionality what-so-ever
Union,

I'm not 100% but I'm pretty sure you made that word up........anyway watch the agency bashing, if you have some specific incidents regarding the BI you should probably just air them (it'll make it look less like you have a hidden agenda).



Posted by: mpd61

Hey Y'all

Onion1 is definately bashing all COPS in healthcare settings. He tries to justify his comments with one (1) negative quote from a V.A. cop. He then states his one year as a hospital cop "MORE" than qualifies him to make such statements. Nice way to paint everyone with a broad brush based on your vast experience. Have a drink on me buddy!



Posted by: mkpnt

Quote:
Originally Posted by union1";p=&quot View Post
Roll also is a term people use for people on a mind altering substance such as EX. was a feble attempt at poking fun at them calling them drug addicts. probly should remember im not on a rave forum here.
That explanation is a little tough to swallow...like an old "ROLL". Why don't you just admit you have trouble with your words???

Also feeble not feble, probably not probly, and I'm not im.

Try spellcheck. I'm telling you, it works wonders towards sounding intelligent.



Posted by: cj3441

Can somebody lock this topic for the love of God.



Posted by: mkpnt

Quote:
Originally Posted by cj3441";p=&quot View Post
Can somebody lock this topic for the love of God.
Whaah....Whaah....Someone save Onion1 and lock this topic!!
Whaah...Whaah...I never took English..Whaah Whaah!

Whaah.. can't we just show some "professionality" here.

I think Onion1 should just "ROLL" with the punches.



Posted by: ecpd402

OK I would like to throw in my two cents. As far as BI goes I know an officer there. They do need work. as far as the officer slamming. Its just an opinion. Ive been called HERO many times for my opinion (IE MACOP), but I leave it at that. VA police are cops Ive seen them in action I used to work with a guy thats on VA Boston. Good person. I do disagree with Union1 statement that the VA are guards. I do agree that BI is security orientated. I'm also not surprised to see Union1 Nemeses MPD61 speaking up. Housing COP where are you when we need you the most. Oh john J good to see you get dinner at the museum



Posted by: Sgt~Ranger5479

I agree that BI is a nice place to work. Some of the officers I have met some of the guys there and will have to say they are shaping up to be a very professional and customer oriented agency. I did hear they had some "bad apples" in the first round of police so they are a little "pickier" now then in the past.

Onion1 must have been one of the guys who didn't make it through the backgrounds checks because of an issue in his past, possibly with an old employer or something like that. Prove me wrong if I am.

I am a big advocate for the idea that if you are in ANY uniform you are on my side. We all do some aspect of the same job and those guys at BI are all about working with everyone... so long as you give them the respect they deserve and would give back to you if you needed any help or favors from them.

So if you want to bash any other form of law enforcement i.e. security, police depts. or whoever, you obviously don't understand the power a united front in law enforcement can provide.



Posted by: John J

Quote:
Originally Posted by ecpd402";p=&quot View Post
Oh john J good to see you get dinner at the museum
ecpd402 you are too funny.
Hey how is that $13.41/hr treating you?



Posted by: union1

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt~Ranger5479";p=&quot View Post
I did hear they had some "bad apples" in the first round of police so they are a little "pickier" now then in the past.

Refer back to the last comment

Onion1 must have been one of the guys who didn't make it through the backgrounds checks because of an issue in his past, possibly with an old employer or something like that. Prove me wrong if I am.

WTF?

I am a big advocate for the idea that if you are in ANY uniform you are on my side. We all do some aspect of the same job and those guys at BI are all about working with everyone... so long as you give them the respect they deserve and would give back to you if you needed any help or favors from them.

No thanks, ill call Suffolk. Also refer to my next statement.

So if you want to bash any other form of law enforcement i.e. security, police depts. or whoever, you obviously don't understand the power a united front in law enforcement can provide.
I did hear they had some "bad apples" in the first round of police so they are a little "pickier" now then in the past.

Refer back to the last comment

Onion1 must have been one of the guys who didn't make it through the backgrounds checks because of an issue in his past, possibly with an old employer or something like that. Prove me wrong if I am.

WTF?

I am a big advocate for the idea that if you are in ANY uniform you are on my side. We all do some aspect of the same job and those guys at BI are all about working with everyone... so long as you give them the respect they deserve and would give back to you if you needed any help or favors from them.

No thanks, ill call Suffolk. Also refer to my next statement.

So if you want to bash any other form of law enforcement i.e. security, police depts. or whoever, you obviously don't understand the power a united front in law enforcement can provide


United front? um??

Ive herd this many times on this board but exactly why is 98% of this way of speaking always coming from an either Hospital or Campus? There is NO unity here so lets tell it like it is. Unity is a pipe dream in LE, in MA anyway. Lets figure out where we are on the pecking order here so we can get off this unity soapbox that campuses are on.

State Police - Stay out of the City and Town of _____ Insert town name as well as any campuses
Town_____ - Stay off the State Property and any Campuses that may be in your town
Campuses - Stay off City or Town property and State Property

Unity my ass, learn where you are in the pecking order of Law Enforcement and just be happy your there. Im sorry, BI falls just above securitas in my book as well as those people who have PMd me stating the same. Good luck applying



Posted by: Sgt~Ranger5479

I have learned where I stand on the pecking order and trust me the guys I work with are from all levels of LE. From Fed. to local cop, but we all treat each other the same.

Granted most of the hospital/campus police want to believe that there are guys out there that will treat them as equals (at least). I also understand that there are officers who consider themselves "higher" then everybody.

I once worked in the lower ranks of this "hierarchy" that you speak of and have worked my way up through it. So maybe I have a biased opinion of how everyone should be treated.

OR MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE I PASSED KINDERGARTEN THE FIRST TIME AND LEARNED TO "TREAT OTHERS AS YOU WOULD WANT TO BE TREATED."

Union1 your opinion is that of a person still struggling to find his place in society and prove to himself that because he didn't make it through life as easy as someone who does utilize his brain, that you are still a viable part of the LE community.



Posted by: Macop

Ive been called HERO many times for my opinion (IE MACOP)

lol, ECPD its outta love brotha, I'm the biggest HERO of em all.



Posted by: ecpd402

Thanks MACOP.



Posted by: mkpnt

English lesson for the day:

"Ive herd this many times on this board but exactly why is 98% of this way of speaking always coming from an either Hospital or Campus?"

Onion1, you haven't herd this many times..Unless your speaking of cattle.
You may have heard this but thats a different story.

herd:
A group of cattle or other domestic animals of a single kind kept together for a specific purpose.
A number of wild animals of one species that remain together as a group: a herd of elephants.

heard:
To perceive (sound) by the ear.



Posted by: Mitpo62

On a truly lighter side, Friday's have become the best day of the week. It's hard to keep from giggling.



Posted by: Finding Nemo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mitpo62";p=&quot View Post
On a truly lighter side, Friday's have become the best day of the week. It's hard to keep from giggling.
Mitpo just be careful about that statement.......I made one similar in the past and the director (PJB) was not too happy with it.......



Just a friendly heads up.....



Posted by: Mitpo62

Ooops!



Posted by: Future Cop

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt~Ranger5479";p=&quot View Post
I have met some of the guys there and will have to say they are shaping up to be a very professional and customer oriented agency. I did hear they had some "bad apples" in the first round of police so they are a little "pickier" now then in the past.
Some "bad apples??" Somebody told me that 11 out of 12 of the original officers no longer work there. If that is bad apples, what was the hiring process that 11 out of 12 slipped through?? That doesn't sound like bad apples. That sounds like the orchard had some soil problems.



Posted by: HousingCop

ecpd402,
I try to stay out of the fray if it isn't in my realm. I do enjoy a good verbal joust now and then. But as I have become older, I also have become wiser.

Now if all the SpellCheckNazi's would lighten up in here. I happen to have fat tipped fingets and my 2 hand, 3 finger hunt & peck typing is not always what it is cracked up to be. Some words slip through the cracks. An occasional A or E is not entered & it looks like someone is branded a Neanderthal for life. I think others may have the same problem, so lighten up. SpellCheck makes an MCAS failure look like a Harvard grad in my opinion. Lighten up people.

Back on topic...... the only thing I don't like about the BIDMC Police is their blatant & shameless rip-off of my patch, colors, design and lettering. Anybody have one??????



Posted by: Sgt~Ranger5479

Lets get one thing straght. I said there were some bad apples. Not all the guys there were bad, from what I have heard. could have even been one really bad guy that made them be so picky about who they select.



Posted by: BartA1

HC,

I figured you guys would have been more peeved at the School Police ripping the patch. I know camp Muni wasnt too pleased when that school patch was unveiled. Only thing i have heard about BI is that it took a while for them to get approval to carry, and that the weekly check isnt too bad



Posted by: Sandcamel

Damn - so much bitchin about who is "real" this and "real" that...WHO THE HELL CARES?????!?!?!
i think it's the people that gotta talk about it 24-7 that have the issues...who cares what a "real" cop says anyway??? ...the more you care about it the "faker" you sound......just go to work and shut up



Posted by: mkpnt

Now if all the SpellCheckNazi's would lighten up in here. I happen to have fat tipped fingets and my 2 hand, 3 finger hunt & peck typing is not always what it is cracked up to be. Some words slip through the cracks. An occasional A or E is not entered & it looks like someone is branded a Neanderthal for life. I think others may have the same problem, so lighten up. SpellCheck makes an MCAS failure look like a Harvard grad in my opinion. Lighten up people.

I prefer Spellcheck Gustapo, thank you!!!
Also..I get bored at work and need to pass the time somehow>



Posted by: gmorbid

I have an interview at BI i was looking for some info on the place if anyone could help. Do they send there guys to SSPO, Salary, shifts if they are 4 and 2 or just 5 days any info would be great thanks



Posted by: RPD931

Info on BIDMC?..hmm... well they have had a 99% turnover since its inception 18 months ago (or whenever it was started..)



Posted by: John J

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Info on BIDMC?..hmm... well they have had a 99% turnover since its inception 18 months ago (or whenever it was started..)
Do you know this for a fact or is this something you heard on the rumor mill?



Posted by: Mitpo62

It is indeed a fact that all but one of the original police officers have quit or were asked to leave. Why? I don't know. You'd have to ask the Chief or someone else in the "know". I do know that a new police supervisory staff is in place and one new police officer has been hired. I believe there are 5 or 6 more openings as resumes continue to be received.



Posted by: Sandcamel

when was the last hire? had three interviews with them already....hopefully get to the next phase which is the background package...haven't heard back from them yet though so who knows....



Posted by: John J

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Originally Posted by Mitpo62";p=&quot View Post
It is indeed a fact that all but one of the original police officers have quit or were asked to leave. Why? I don't know. You'd have to ask the Chief or someone else in the "know". I do know that a new police supervisory staff is in place and one new police officer has been hired. I believe there are 5 or 6 more openings as resumes continue to be received.

Did the officers leave under the old supervisory staff or under the new supervisory staff?



Posted by: sully161

The same superivsory staff (Chief & Deputy Chief). Is the organizational chart still: 1 Chief, 1 Deputy Chief, 2 Lieutenants, 5 Sergeants and 1 Patrolman?



Posted by: Mitpo62

only 3 sergeants and two patrolmen; need to hire 5 or 6 more officers.



Posted by: sully161

You're over a year into it, and you have 1 Chief, 1 Dep. Chief, 2 Lieutenants, 3 Sergeants, and 2 Patrolman. Am I missing something?



Posted by: brits64

well i think the BIDMC police department is in bad shape i used to work there and i can tell you if work for them they will screw you over and for the security side these guys are walking around with no clue on how to work public safety. I do know for a fact that one Sgt on the dept just got out of the police academy and made Sgt as soon as he came back to work. I say if you going to work there just watch your back



Posted by: robodope

Jeusus this department has more posts then the state police....when is it going to end??



Posted by: brits64

well I got to say that BIDMC police dept does have porb but I Mite want to clear thing up about it the prob that are going on down there are miner ones and as for the high turnover rate it is because of people don't think right when they get mad down there just go and walk off and then bad mouth the place when i was wrighting my last post i did not think of the right things to say and to that iam sorry for what i said. but i got say it was not a bad place to work. When I worked there I met some great people and then i met some bad apples. if you hang around the wrong people you would think the place is in bad shape but if you mind your owned business and do your job you will do fine there. I Had fun there and think the dept only can get better you just have to give time



Posted by: HousingCop

brits64,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but SpellCheck was made for guys like you. There's about 10 mistakes, run on sentences and just plain jibberish. I have kids so I did make out what you were trying to say.


mkpnt,

It's SpellCheck Gestapo, not Gustapo. Maybe you were referring to the Italian Secret Police instead??

If BIDMC has an almost 90% turnover rate within 1 year, what do you think your chances are for a long term enployment opportunity there? C'mon guys be real here. There is no union to speak of and you are at the will of the management there. You screw up, they pounce on you & your LE career has a black mark against it. Unless you are an older retired cop and can give a flying fiddle what they say & write in your employee file, stay the heck away.
Remember, it's not the guys you work with who will mess with you, it's management. You have a couple "cheese eaters" on your shift, you might as well be walking up to HR for your exit interview. 'Nuff said. HC



Posted by: Wannabe1

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Originally Posted by HousingCop";p=&quot View Post
brits64,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but SpellCheck was made for guys like you. There's about 10 mistakes, run on sentences and just plain jibberish. I have kids so I did make out what you were trying to say.


mkpnt,

It's SpellCheck Gestapo, not Gustapo. Maybe you were referring to the Italian Secret Police instead??

If BIDMC has an almost 90% turnover rate within 1 year, what do you think your chances are for a long term enployment opportunity there? C'mon guys be real here. There is no union to speak of and you are at the will of the management there. You screw up, they pounce on you & your LE career has a black mark against it. Unless you are an older retired cop and can give a flying fiddle what they say & write in your employee file, stay the heck away.
Remember, it's not the guys you work with who will mess with you, it's management. You have a couple "cheese eaters" on your shift, you might as well be walking up to HR for your exit interview. 'Nuff said. HC
HousingCop,
I almost pissed my pants reading your post.

Is it true that BIDMC only has one cruiser and you are at fixed posts?



Posted by: CampusOfficer

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Is it true that BIDMC only has one cruiser and you are at fixed posts?
Yes...one cruiser. No...fixed posts. Security does the fixed posts, and the cruiser is for supervisory use only. You can use the cruiser with permission though.



Posted by: j809

I think MGH PD is a much better police department than BIDMC. BIDMC is in a trance and no one knows whether it will last. Longwood Security would love to take it back soon.



Posted by: Finding Nemo

The only employees remaining are the former Longwood employees, I'd say Longwood security never left.



Posted by: brits64

its hard to say if longwood would come back if the hospital is making saving money they are going to keep it in house



Posted by: HousingCop

Wannabe1,

It looks like the gene pool could use a little chlorine in here.



Posted by: Mitpo62

Wow, tough crowd on this thread. So much hostility and tension....time to move on......



Posted by: Finding Nemo

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Originally Posted by Mitpo62";p=&quot View Post
Wow, tough crowd on this thread. So much hostility and tension....time to move on......
Moving On Huh?

Well Then, Congrats.. Civil service finally pulled thru for ya?





Posted by: masstoazcop

How can a person claim to have something, lets say aaah college degree, so they can help themselves look good and get promoted. You continue the claim up until its discovered, almost five years later. You leave the dept. under a dark cloud, A few years later that same person become a chief/director of a public safety agency.

What kind of agency do you really think he/she would run?????? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, well, its a duck.

Before someone asks, how do I know this, Well, I spent 2 years working for this person, That would be called first hand knowledge!!!!!

Good luck to all who work or want to work there!!



Posted by: mtr111

Mit...



Well said...time to move on, but the BRITS is killing me with his posts...I just can't get enough...

Who could this person be talking about at the BIDMIC ? I see this person likes Arizona!



Posted by: masstoazcop

The only reason I like Arizona is because there is no civil service !!!!!!!!



Posted by: mtr111

Ahh...a state without Civil Circus. How good does that sound.



Posted by: Gil

Off Topic, flammatory, etc... and folks are bitching.

Time to move on





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