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Full-Time Academy Self Sponsors....

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Posted by: EchoUnit

For the past 2 months I have applied to 3 of the MPTC's full time police academies as a self sponsor, only to be denied by 2 of them so far (Boylston and Agawam). I've been communicating with the Recruit Academy Coordinator and she's been telling me that their giving all the spots to the recruits who have a full time job when they get out of the academy. It aggrevates me because I've had my applications in for months however I never seem to get in because I'm a self sponsor. Anyone else having this problem????



Posted by: Mikey682

Are you saying that you applied to this upcoming agawam class and got denied becuase your a self sponsor?

My application is in for Agawam as a self-sponsor, and I'm gonna be pissed if I just wasted 370 bucks on a medical and 150 on a PAT.



Posted by: EchoUnit

MIkey682 Wrote: Are you saying that you applied to this upcoming agawam class and got denied becuase your a self sponsor?

Yes...this is what the Academy Recruit Coordinator has been telling me. Self sponsors only get in if there are spots open and cannot fill it with a recruit who has a job at the time of graduation..



Posted by: Mikey682

Agawams been floating like a turd since May. I send in my app, and one week later the "date will be solidified after...." comes up on MPTC website. I was guessing that mine or somebody elses was the last one they needed to fill a class. Oh well I'll call on tuesday and see what they say :no:



Posted by: EchoUnit

Mikey are you a self sponsor?



Posted by: Mikey682

yeah, the application was for agawam. I sent it in and havent heard anything. I've done the medical and am working on the PAT this week.



Posted by: EchoUnit

Mikey,

I took the P.A.T. in September and was told that I would not be getting into boylston or agawam...but there always plymouth!



Posted by: Mikey682

oh well, back to hitting the bottle i guess.



Posted by: JohnBarleycorn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey682 @ Sun Oct 10, 2004 10:20 pm
yeah, the application was for agawam. I sent it in and havent heard anything. I've done the medical and am working on the PAT this week.
Agawam solidified Nov 1 as a start date sometime during the first week of October.



Posted by: EchoUnit

Are you going to Agawam John?



Posted by: BUCKCHUCK

I was a self-sponsor also...just finished up the MBTA Academy...I got also got bumped last February from Boylston...Instructor Wolverton will not bump you..plus he will not let you graduate without a job...any question let me know...Buck



Posted by: Mikey682

what ever happened to receiving a letter 30 days prior to the start date? Now on the website, MPTC wants prospective candidates to call to find out thier status.



Posted by: mpd61

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey682 @ 11 Oct 2004 13:49
what ever happened to receiving a letter 30 days prior to the start date? Now on the website, MPTC wants prospective candidates to call to find out thier status.
Mikey,

Calm down and just make the call. Be careful not to stir things up buddy.




Posted by: ryan933

I am a self-sponsor currently in the Lowell Academy. I had been thinking of going to Boylston, but I was aware of the high chances of being bumped, so I hedged my bet and talked to the Director of the Lowell Academy. He gauranteed me a slot. So I blew off Boylston and went to Lowell, and it was the best decision I could have made! Lowell is a top notch academy, and as it turns out, I would have been bumped from Boylston had I waited. I know this because a friend of mine held out for Boylston and got bumped. I would recommend any self sponsor look into the Lowell Academy. PM me if you want more info.

Ryan



Posted by: Mikey682

Well Dori at MTPC Agawam cleared a few things up. They had 79 candidates and took the first 44, who were obviously paid recruits.



Posted by: drewpopo

I was told about a year ago the MCPA put the arm on MPTC to run less academes so there would not be such an abundance of people with academies. The reasoning I was told is that there have been departments that simply just sign there name to someone without doing a back ground check. Therefore chiefs want to have more of an opportunity to pick officers instead of being pressured by selectman to save money and hire officers that already have an academy. I think in order for someone to be a self sponsor that they should have to at least work for a department for sometime to ensure that they are squared away person that is worthy of becoming a police officer. I was a self sponsor and worked as a part timer before going to the academy. I can think of at least 4 people in my academy that just asked the right chief and got into the academy, as far as I know three of them could not pass a background check and one could not handle being a cop.



Posted by: Southside

Quote:
Originally Posted by drewpopo @ Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:26 pm
I was told about a year ago the MCPA put the arm on MPTC to run less academes so there would not be such an abundance of people with academies. The reasoning I was told is that there have been departments that simply just sign there name to someone without doing a back ground check. Therefore chiefs want to have more of an opportunity to pick officers instead of being pressured by selectman to save money and hire officers that already have an academy. I think in order for someone to be a self sponsor that they should have to at least work for a department for sometime to ensure that they are squared away person that is worthy of becoming a police officer. I was a self sponsor and worked as a part timer before going to the academy. I can think of at least 4 people in my academy that just asked the right chief and got into the academy, as far as I know three of them could not pass a background check and one could not handle being a cop.
good point, but don't stereotype all self sponsors. Some of us are squared away and have been waiting a long time to get a shot.



Posted by: drewpopo

no stereotyping involved, more of a dig at PD's that sponsor anoyone with out checking them out. Like I said I was a self sponsor but I had to prove myself



Posted by: Mikey682

I figured Agawam would be a decent shot for self-sponsoring, as one of thier earlier classes had about a 50% self sponsor population. Oh well...any advice for other academys a self-sponsor may have a decent shot at? Weymouth or Plymouth maybe?



Posted by: 40th MPOC#309

Me thinks the PD sponsoring a prospective recruit would be responsible enuff to check out the people they are letting wear their patch. HELLO!!!! If they want to take it up a notch-MPTC could require all self-sponsors to be at least an Auxiliary or Dispatch associate.



Posted by: EOD1

OK are you talking about them limiting the slots to those who have a full time jobs or as long as they have a job when they grad (reserve/Aux/ FT)?



Posted by: 40th MPOC#309

No EOD-master. just thinking this might weed out the folks who waste a slot. If they are employed as a reserve/intermittent or dispatch, they have been immersed in the job and realize all it's drawbacks (and benefits..) Just a thought-not a suggestion.



Posted by: EOD1

cool thanks. that clears up alot.



Posted by: 40th MPOC#309

NICE AVATAR!!!!!! I need that on a t-shirt......



Posted by: EchoUnit

BuckChuck I sent you a PM.



Posted by: Mikey682

I was told at one point during the process that my HRD medical exam I took was valid for 6 months, should I need to use it for a different department hiring process. Is this correct?



Posted by: FRPDConstable

Hey Mikey
I was told the same as you when taking the PAT both the physical and the actual PAT are only good for 6 months then they need to be redone.





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