| Originally Posted by Killjoy The hill can propose to merge the MSP with NASA...doesn't mean its going to happen. |
| Originally Posted by michaelbos For some reason, the President of the MBTA Police union has made this his number one priority and it seems that nothing else is on the union agenda. He should be fighting for quality of life issues for his officers. Issues and items that effect them every day while on their job. it seems while they are getting stepped on, the union praying for a merger. Well, the 1st merger didn't work, they have less officers on the road now then before the merger. A merger is not the solve all for everything. The union should fight and force the T to make changes to the transit Police force. |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick Especially when even the sponsors of the bill don't want it to pass. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt right, nasa wouldn't want the state. Christ now the state thinks they own space too. whats next a crown of thorns.... |
| Christ now the state thinks they own space too. whats next a crown of thorns.... |
| Originally Posted by MM1799 Whoa, we better watch out. Dolt is coming up with some very witty remarks. |
| Originally Posted by evanbr33 wgciv, the fact that you're not a Trooper makes your post that much better. You understand that the way to come into an organization isn't to backdoor it through a merger. Do it the right way, EARN IT...83 people didn't have the intestinal fortitude to make it through during my time at Camp New Braintree...I wonder how many of those are back at the T praying for this merger... Signed, A Trooper |
| Originally Posted by wgciv I think that would be horse shit... it appears that the T guys want this MSP merger pretty bad... well, if they had put as much effort into becoming Troopers the traditional way as they are into this merger thing, then they may be flying in the blue birds by now. Go take the test, score high enough to be called, pass the background, and spend 6 months spewing blood sweat and tears at the academy like the rest of the Troopers. If you want it, Earn it. Signed, Not a Trooper |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Yeah, the transit cops just wouldn't fit in....they actually have war stories other than those about their academy experiences. |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick It's got nothing to do with war stories. It's got everything to do with legislatively cramming yourself into a Department where you are not wanted. |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick Nobody's saying the T Cops don't do real police work. However, their union shouldn't be spending all it's resources trying to backdoor their way onto the MSP. |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick As far as war stories go, talk to some guys from the Springfield area. I'm sure they do just fine. |
| Originally Posted by MM1799 Delta, you just can't resist. Just remember war stories are from the road, not the chief's office and meetings with city councilors. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Know what you're talking about, my friend. I work the busiest sector car on the busiest shift in my department. Not every police union official is a politician with a badge. |
| Originally Posted by IrishCop69 Why wouldn't it work out for all officers involved? The troopers would have more areas to claim detail coverage. Then they could have many more guys reach that much needed $200,000 plateau. We all know that a trooper can't survive on much less. The MBTA guys could them move to be troopers and leave all the actual police work to the poor patrolmen of cities and towns. I'm sure all those cities and towns won't mind answering more calls with minimal manpower. Why shouldn't the cities and town do all the work for $50,000? We see how well the registry rolled into the roll of "trooper". Good luck to all involved. My harsh remarks aren't intended for any one individual, just a small town cop who loves what he does for minimal pay. I still wish all officers (even the troopers) to be safe!!!! |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Great....then argue it from that standpoint. If there's anything more annoying than a trooper who wants to discuss his/her academy class ad nauseum, it's a trooper wanna-be like "wgciv". I don't give a rat's ass where someone went to the police academy.....show me what you bring to the street. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Know what you're talking about, my friend. I work the busiest sector car on the busiest shift in my department. Not every police union official is a politician with a badge. |
| Originally Posted by mpd61 1. It won't happen 2. The MSP group retirement can't touch the Railiroad retirement. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Wanna be??? Actually, I'm quite happy where I am, fuktard. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv I understand what it is like to be part of an organization rich with tradition and history. I also understand the amount of dedication, fortitude, pride, honor, self satisfaction, etc. associated with becoming a part of such an organization. I feel that you should earn the right to become part of this type of organization. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv I never said that the T didnt have good officers who can 'bring it to the street'. In fact, I'm sure that most would make fine Troopers. However, they should go about it the same way as the others. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Wow! What a loser, Why don't you toot your own horn a little more? |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Oh yeah, and when you're done tooting, Go Fuck Yourself! |
| Originally Posted by MM1799 Settle down. Notice the smiley face? I was busting balls. If you're going to sling sarcastic remarks about my department, dont get all pissy when it's returned. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Listening to a scanner and deciding what calls to jump doesn't exactly impress me. |
| Originally Posted by IrishCop69 I never said F the SP. I think they train some of the best in the country. They are always in the top 5 training acadamies in the country. Unfortunately, the major part of their duty is to cover the state roadways. It is a great gig if your interested and can get it. I am very jealous of the amount they make. I am also jealous of how easy their details are. They make megabucks just sitting in there car reading or playing on the computer. I am lucky to get 37-40 bucks to flail my arms and narrowly avoid being hit all day. I do however enjoy answering real calls for a living. I did the traffic thing for 2 years, and it is not all it's cracked up to be. Lots of guys enjoy it, that is why God created troopers. |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick I'm not talking about "jumping calls". I'm talking about real police work, stopping cars and getting felony warrants, guns and drugs. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Isn't that a matter for the actual membership of the transit police union to decide? |
| They make megabucks just sitting in there car reading or playing on the computer. I am lucky to get 37-40 bucks to flail my arms and narrowly avoid being hit all day. |
| I do however enjoy answering real calls for a living. I did the traffic thing for 2 years, and it is not all it's cracked up to be. Lots of guys enjoy it, that is why God created troopers. |
Wow are you guys boring me. "MY BALLS ARE BIGGER!" "NO, MY BALLS ARE BIGGER THAN YOURS!!!" I've seen this tread over and over again and all it does is piss off both sides and create walls between agencies. GROW THE F UP! | Originally Posted by Rock Wow are you guys boring me. "MY BALLS ARE BIGGER!" "NO, MY BALLS ARE BIGGER THAN YOURS!!!" I've seen this tread over and over again and all it does is piss off both sides and create walls between agencies. GROW THE F UP! |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick It certainly isn't for them to decide if they are going to merge or not. As to their union wasting time trying, it is really starting to annoy a lot of pols on the hill. |
| Originally Posted by lawdog671 Stating fact is not tooting one's horn. As Walt Whitman said, "If you done it, it ain't bragging". Wasn't it Roy Rogers that said that??...hehe |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy The MSP doesn't stop cars for the purpose of issuing cites (which by your comments on traffic, is all you did), it stops the cars to check out the drivers and passengers, run them for warrants, search their cars for drugs, guns or any other contraband. |
| Originally Posted by Killjoy This bill is nothing but an attempt by the MBTA to free itself of having to pay for its own police force, it benefits no one, but the T fatcats. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Then I'll order the case of K-Y and the tow truck necessary to remove your nose from the collective trooper's asses. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Gee, I wonder what that organization might be? Let me guess; you're another weak-minded individual who allows a 3-6 year span of their life to define their entire identity.....and of course got the hell out of that same organization. If it was so great, how come you're not a lifer? |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Then perhaps you should just shut-up and not attempt to pass judgement on the motives of police officers you don't even know. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Oh boy, yet another Internet tough guy. |
| I wouldn't advertise that too much, if I were you. |
| I'm against the bill for many of the reasons you list, but to be fair the MBTA would have to contract with the MSP for police services, the same as the DCR, Mass Pike, and Logan Airport. It certainly wouldn't be free. |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick I'm not talking about "jumping calls". I'm talking about real police work, stopping cars and getting felony warrants, guns and drugs. That and the other bizarre stuff that tends to happen on the state roads in that area; kidnappings, rapes, shootings, etc. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt never seen a trooper at a domestic but if that call came in as shots fired the whole barracks would show...you are a dolt and we all know it...keep up the lie. |
| Originally Posted by evanbr33 Hey f*cktard, how about you come out to the Berkshires and take a quick gander around and see how many Troopers are at domestics? Try nearly all of them...Maybe then you would find that we don't 'jump' calls and don't sit around listening to the scanner...Also, why is it bad if the calvary comes to a report of 'shots fired'?? That's a rather serious call, wouldn't you want some help there if it was your ass getting shot at? Get your facts straight you screwball. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica The problem is that dolt is not a cop, so he cannot get his facts straight. He has no idea WTF goes on in the real world. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt yeah, you better watch out for that band of highway kidnappers. please, we all know the deal. while we're answering calls and servicing the community you're listening to your scanner trying to pick off the hot calls. never seen a trooper at a domestic but if that call came in as shots fired the whole barracks would show...you are a dolt and we all know it...keep up the lie. |
| Originally Posted by [B YOUAREA DOUCHE[/b]....never seen a trooper at a domestic Is that a measure of a "cop" in your little mind? I go to all kinds of domestics where someone calls in and I get sent there? You're an ass. Apparently in your tiny little mind thats the true measure of a police officer. Reserve your opinion for what you know, which from your prior posts, don't seem to be much. I ll wait for your dismissal ..... |
| Originally Posted by evanbr33 Hey f*cktard, how about you come out to the Berkshires and take a quick gander around and see how many Troopers are at domestics? Try nearly all of them...Maybe then you would find that we don't 'jump' calls and don't sit around listening to the scanner...Also, why is it bad if the calvary comes to a report of 'shots fired'?? That's a rather serious call, wouldn't you want some help there if it was your ass getting shot at? Get your facts straight you screwball. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica The problem is that dolt is not a cop, so he cannot get his facts straight. He has no idea WTF goes on in the real world. |
| Originally Posted by 94c You of course are the only REAL cop here. Right? |
| Originally Posted by bbelichick Shut your lying mouth. I know where you work. Troopers in the Springfield area handle more in a day than you do in a month. You are a f*cking hypocrite. If you were busy at all, you wouldn't be looking to jump calls in other towns. As far as the kidnapping goes, there was one a few months back, the subject fled down Route 91 and took a shot at 2 Troopers with a rifle before he was arrested. The reason you've never seen a Trooper at a domestic is because you've never been to one. As far as Troopers rushing to "shots fired" calls, how the hell would you know? Get a lot of shots fired calls in your town, do ya? That's what I thought. ZERO. Goddamn whackers. Hey Dolt, how many lights do you have in your personal car? The over/under is 10. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt no dopey, i don't believe i was measuring anything. my point is you only see the the almighty when the calls are hot, hence the jumping calls reference. I could have used any crime i guess other than a DMV of course(call the highway patrol). i know reading comp isn't your strong point, christ i'm impressed you can even read so i'll try to be more articulate in the future. again as i said to bballick, i know you guys are brainwashed to think you're always right but believe me when i tell you everyone else sees' right through your smoke and mirrors. i've said it before and i'll continue to say it;--you only make us stronger the more you fight us.. thanks for you anticipated support. ----dolt ps you're dismissed!! actually princess i was more referring to the fact that if they have the resources to send to the shots fired call then why not come help out with domestics or any other call for that matter. because a domestic can also become a very--excuse me "rather serious call" as well, wouldn't you say.. so yes, if they want to come to calls then bring it on, but lets be real they come to the fun ones, they'll leave the day to day stuff to the locals. right, screwball ??... done with you---next thats bballicks standard gig, get your own material. go away boretallica, get your big brother, i don't fight mental midgets....---dolt |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica Uh oh, I forgot, if you don't work in Quincy, Boston or Worcester, you can't be a real cop because nothing goes on else where. My bad 94c. Remind me next time that you are the only one on this board that has enough war stories under his belt to determine what separates the men from the boys! You are the almighty expert. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica Uh oh, I forgot, if you don't work in Quincy, Boston or Worcester, you can't be a real cop because nothing goes on else where. My bad 94c. Remind me next time that you are the only one on this board that has enough war stories under his belt to determine what separates the men from the boys! You are the almighty expert. |
| Originally Posted by j809 Jeez, I didn't think it was going to cause such a shit on debate as always. It's a good thing I didn't post the other bills, like the one extending police powers to municipal officers in surrounding jurisdictions. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt bballick--massachusetts' greatest internet hero---- you nailed it, you win. pm me and we can meet up i'll pay you your money. sneak out of the office for a minute. doubtful, coward......call me when your boyfriend lets you have your balls back....----dolt |
| Originally Posted by Mitpo62 Better add Taunton to that list pal. We have it real T O U G H here! |
| Originally Posted by mpdcam This is another great thread. Troopers pissing on locals. Locals pissing on troopers. If I hear one more comment about the MSP academy and its tradition or one more local bashing the MSP, I'm gonna puke. Bottom line is, when we (meaning all of us) are on the road, none of that s*#t means anything. We are all cops and we are all doing the same job. There are too many tools on this website that just want to spend all their time trying to convince others that they and their department are better than everyone elses. Gimme a f'in break. Get a life. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Was I passing judgement, or was I expressing an opinion? If the members of this board are not to express opinions, then what is the point of all of these threads? What is the point of this board? Maybe we should change the format to a blog in which you, and only you, post your opinion on all subjects. The rest of us will just read your posts and accept them as gospel, for we are not entitled to our own opinions. You can be the MassCops Dictator, and we will be forbidden to disagree with you! |
| Originally Posted by wgciv In fact, didn't Walt Whitman also ask: 'Have you learned the lessons only of those who admired you, and were tender with you, and stood aside for you? Have you not learned great lessons from those who braced themselves against you, and disputed passage with you?' |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Who's the internet tough guy? I believe I simply posted my opinion on the matter, which is the merger. I did not speak poorly of the T officers and I did not make a personal attack against others who posted their differing opinions. I think it was you who launched the personal attack. You suggested not passing judgement on officers you don't know, maybe you should heed your own advice. |
| Originally Posted by lawdog671 DELTA...lighten up Francis...I couldn't find the stupid smiley faces so I left the laughing at the end so you'd know it's a joke....and since you seem to know so much about MSP.... Is it anyone's business what the transit police union does, except for the members of the transit police union? If they're pushing it this hard, they obviously have the blessing of the membership, so what we think about how they choose to spend their money doesn't really matter. If theyre trying to force a merger on an unwilling agency in the hopes of becoming something that they are not, then YES, the membership of SPAM has every right to voice their opinions and be interested in their business. |
| Originally Posted by lawdog671 How does thhe opinion of a Quincy cop (or whereever you work) on the subject outweigh those who are directly affected? |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 it's a trooper wanna-be like "wgciv". I don't give a rat's ass where someone went to the police academy.....show me what you bring to the street. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Offering an opinion would consist of "I disagree with this merger because of ________", which is exactly what I did. Instead, you chose to launch into a second-hand, self-righteous speech about the state police academy, with the obvious implication that the transit cops are bags of crap. Sorry pal, that didn't make it pass my bullshit detector. |
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