| Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne Yes it is true, all Chiefs went to a command staff school at New Braintree and this is what is going to happen. But the classes will still be taught by the MPTC instructors. |
| Originally Posted by HousingCop Yeah, like city & town Chiefs are going to go along with this and have to provide mileage from Wellfleet to New Braintree every day. I think they had better give you a drug test cause I think you're smoking some pretty good crack there. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Not required to pay mileage. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 Mileage is in many contracts, and we won a grievance to pay OT for "unreasonable" commuting distances. HousingCop is correct....this will die a quick death once the chiefs add-up the numbers. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Very true... but in many of these contracts the mileage and OT applies only to the sworn officers... different rules for the new hires who are not yet sworn in. I can not speak for all departments, only mine and a few others I know of. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica First, Troopers will be the instructors. Second, this deal was arranged by Deval. The agreement was that we would do MPOC academies in exchange for a yearly maintenence class. FACT. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica First, Troopers will be the instructors. Second, this deal was arranged by Deval. The agreement was that we would do MPOC academies in exchange for a yearly maintenence class. FACT. |
| Originally Posted by HousingCop Yeah, like city & town Chiefs are going to go along with this and have to provide mileage from Wellfleet to New Braintree every day. I think they had better give you a drug test cause I think you're smoking some pretty good crack there. |
| Originally Posted by SouthSideCobras Or they could just take a cruiser for the commute like the Cape guys currently in the Boylston Academy. |
| Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne Fuck the bucketheads. |
| Originally Posted by mikemac64 I remember in 98 or so we were supposed to get 75/25. As I recall the teachers swiped it, called it Retriement Plus, and we got nothing. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Some Departments can't spare the cruisers. |
| Originally Posted by HousingCop Will you guys also get French & Electric Blue Cadillac DTS 's too? |
| Originally Posted by Sniper NOT a fact.................... Sorry. |
| Originally Posted by nirtallica Yes, it was proposed and is now under consideration. It is an attempt to save money so that Deval can put more cops on. Makes sense don't it. We put forth the proposal so we could get a maintenence class. FACT. |
| Originally Posted by wgciv Not required to pay mileage... 'Listen son, i know it is a long ride, but just let us know if you are not willing to make the drive because there are 600+ names still on the list who would cut their left nut off to be in your position right now'. |
| Originally Posted by 94c MSP takes over the regional academies and the cape gets their accident reconstructionists and we all support the LEC's. Sounds like a good trade off to me. |
| Originally Posted by mikemac64 There may be some criss cross here. The Chief's were originally looking at the army or NG base or whatever it is in reading? Ft. Wood or something. |
My local academy used it for firearms training.
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| Originally Posted by wgciv Not required to pay mileage... 'Listen son, i know it is a long ride, but just let us know if you are not willing to make the drive because there are 600+ names still on the list who would cut their left nut off to be in your position right now'. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt aren't you under contract once you start the academy. so if mileage is in their contract they get it? on the flip side i think it's about time the MPTC got with the program. i've had numerous heated and often pointless arguements with troopers on this site but the one thing i can't argue is their academy mentality. Being an instructor and seeing the product we are often forced to deal with it's disgraceful. the academy is the place to learn, test and weed out. it'll never happen but you never know. |
| Originally Posted by Mikey682 Why is everyone getting bent out of shape over hearing about a new academy location? |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt Also, LEC's aren't going anywhere, you've be blowing that horn for years. lec will go away on the same bill that passes 25/75... you dopes are losing 10 million out of your budget and make the fiscally responsible choice to have your team go full time. nice to see that barracks are covering hundreds of miles of road with 2 troopers, but they have the money to go full time swat just to try and beat out the lec.. bite off you nose to spite your face....thanks for your support, we win more every day...... |
| Originally Posted by dcs2244 I don't understand why a thread concerning regional academies should become a statie/LEC reindeer game. I was over at Auburn last week and there was a bunch of LEC kids getting trained on the Topcon Total Station: more power to 'em. The LEC's will prosper or not according to the funding available, just like "community policing", "Dare" or any other grant funded programs. The staties aren't going anywhere either, regardless of any ones wet dream fantasies. To get back on topic, I doubt everyone in the state is going to have to report to New Braintree for the academy. It doesn't make sense, logistically. I think there is a good chance that regional academies may return to using staties for staff and a mix of local/state as adjunct instructors (we teach collision investigation in western mass). In any event, I don't think it's anything to get one's panties in a bunch over...wait and see...I hardly think it's going to be a "worst-case scenario". |
| Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne Who cares where or who trains them. I got my certificate, good luck to the rest. It's your right of passage to this job, how bad do you want it. Travel wherever it is and get it done. It's only 22 weeks. |
| Originally Posted by Delta784 I couldn't give a shit less where the newbie recruits have to go, but I'd like to think us veterans have earned the right to a little convenience for in-service training. |
| Originally Posted by USMCTrooper Actually, this isn't a new concept. Municipal classess attended courses at Framingham which was, and still is, the FIRST AND EVER ONLY STATE POLICE ACADEMY. What is this thing they call the "SPA"? Isn't that like where you get a pedicure and massage? |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt aren't you under contract once you start the academy. so if mileage is in their contract they get it? on the flip side i think it's about time the MPTC got with the program. i've had numerous heated and often pointless arguements with troopers on this site but the one thing i can't argue is their academy mentality. Being an instructor and seeing the product we are often forced to deal with it's disgraceful. the academy is the place to learn, test and weed out. it'll never happen but you never know. footnote:: i still see the push to want MPTC instructors, i definitely see the chiefs who in some cases teach wanting to have there people involved.(i missed the typical trooper comment from nirtalicker) Also, LEC's aren't going anywhere, you've be blowing that horn for years. lec will go away on the same bill that passes 25/75... you dopes are losing 10 million out of your budget and make the fiscally responsible choice to have your team go full time. nice to see that barracks are covering hundreds of miles of road with 2 troopers, but they have the money to go full time swat just to try and beat out the lec.. bite off you nose to spite your face....thanks for your support, we win more every day...... |
| Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne Who cares where or who trains them. I got my certificate, good luck to the rest. It's your right of passage to this job, how bad do you want it. Travel wherever it is and get it done. It's only 22 weeks. |
| Originally Posted by OutOfManyOne Who cares where or who trains them. I got my certificate, good luck to the rest. It's your right of passage to this job, how bad do you want it. Travel wherever it is and get it done. It's only 22 weeks. |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt aren't you under contract once you start the academy. so if mileage is in their contract they get it? on the flip side i think it's about time the MPTC got with the program. i've had numerous heated and often pointless arguements with troopers on this site but the one thing i can't argue is their academy mentality. Being an instructor and seeing the product we are often forced to deal with it's disgraceful. the academy is the place to learn, test and weed out. it'll never happen but you never know. footnote:: i still see the push to want MPTC instructors, i definitely see the chiefs who in some cases teach wanting to have there people involved.(i missed the typical trooper comment from nirtalicker) Also, LEC's aren't going anywhere, you've be blowing that horn for years. lec will go away on the same bill that passes 25/75... you dopes are losing 10 million out of your budget and make the fiscally responsible choice to have your team go full time. nice to see that barracks are covering hundreds of miles of road with 2 troopers, but they have the money to go full time swat just to try and beat out the lec.. bite off you nose to spite your face....thanks for your support, we win more every day...... |
| Originally Posted by youareadolt Also, LEC's aren't going anywhere, you've be blowing that horn for years. lec will go away on the same bill that passes 25/75... you dopes are losing 10 million out of your budget and make the fiscally responsible choice to have your team go full time. nice to see that barracks are covering hundreds of miles of road with 2 troopers, but they have the money to go full time swat just to try and beat out the lec.. bite off you nose to spite your face....thanks for your support, we win more every day...... |
| Originally Posted by Mr.90/24 MSP does all in-service training online and i'm sure that's going to happen everywhere sooner then later...my guess but who knows. MSP does all in-service training online and i'm sure that's going to happen everywhere sooner then later...my guess but who knows. |
| Originally Posted by Mr.90/24 Lec's are gone buddy.....Says the Gov...you heard it here first... |
| Originally Posted by MPDReserve I don't mean to sound like an idiot, but was is an LEC? |
| Originally Posted by copper24 Now if they combined the academys would it count as one. For instance I go through the SSPO program could I transfer to a town with that academy since it will be all one? |
| Originally Posted by pahapoika My brother is on the job in Maine, and EVERYONE goes to the same academy. cop told me they have the same thing in Vermont would make for a more "harmonious relationship" between agencies |
| Originally Posted by Sniper Plus I could use a new lender........ I am house shopping. Wish I knew a Pike Lt that I could borrow a few hundred thousand from........... LOL |
| Originally Posted by Bruschi54 I believe that the same practice is also standard in New Hampshire - State and Municipal together. Anyone know someone from north of the border that can lend their thoughts on the subject? Why is it always about the bottom line $$$ rather than the quality of training? As long as the Cadi is fueled and ready to go, who cares right? |
| Originally Posted by Bruschi54 I believe that the same practice is also standard in New Hampshire - State and Municipal together. Anyone know someone from north of the border that can lend their thoughts on the subject? Why is it always about the bottom line $$$ rather than the quality of training? As long as the Cadi is fueled and ready to go, who cares right? |
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