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Originally Posted by Kb1100
Read this on the newspaper not too long ago. Middlesex sheriff is teaming up with LPD I guess to form an even bigger warrant app. I know the sheriff's office have a WA but I'm not sure if LPD has one. What are your thoughts?
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Originally Posted by gooday
The officers that go out to do the warrent apps probably do get some O.T.But we all know that this state is hurting for money so we will be lucky if they hire enough cops to take care of the streets. Believe me with or without the sheriffs they wont be able to hire enough, the moneys not there.I like the idea more cops it keeps me in buisness. If you try to say let the crime go up then they will have to hire, some other other politicians will go to the public and say they could have saved a fortune by using the sheriffs deputies that are have 101% rights and power to do warrent apps. Whos office name appears first on a warrent.
Thats not to say that its right, but I always look at things from both sides of the fence and try to see both oppinions. I would ask the department officers if they mind the Sheriffs helpling out, then it can be argued. But if it dont effect you it dont matter, why even care. |
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Originally Posted by bbelichick
My thoughts are that you are a tool.
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Originally Posted by Kb1100
I love you to
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Originally Posted by gooday
I was just saying that there is nothing saying that sheriffs cant do warrent apps.The police have more of a right than the sheriffs to be out there in my opinion due to the fact they were there first and they are the main L.E in this state and Sheriffs far second. But when it comes to picking someone up on a warrent there isnt much to worry about because the cops are with them and they already know what thier arresting the person for. I would think you guys would like the help because more then likely you already arrested them for them to have the warrent out in the first place. Unless its someone you guys have been looking for that has not been arrested yet. 10 to 1 you guys are going to get them in a traffic stop before anyone else anyhow. But if your in an area with alot going on how can you justify using proactive patrol officers to pick up some goon on a default warrent. Usually nobody knows were the heavy hiters are and like I said you guys stumble apon them because there stupid and have a bad inspection sticker or something and get pinched. I would bet you have picked up some heavy hitters yourself that were wanted just by a traffic stop. No doubt in my mind.
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Originally Posted by serpico
Besides if any of you guys were stuck behind the walls at one of shit hole jails you would be clamoring to get out and do something like this.
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Originally Posted by gooday
bbelichick your right I didnt proof read. The good thing is I'm not on here to impress anyone. I just come on here to hear other peoples opinions. Some opinions I agree with some I dont. I dont hold anything against the people I dont agree with. I agree with most of your points but I just dont see how this would be hurting anyone.
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Originally Posted by serpico
Besides if any of you guys were stuck behind the walls at one of shit hole jails you would be clamoring to get out and do something like this.
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The other bonus for you guys : warrant arrest reports are usually VERY short and don't require much in the way of spelling or grammar skills. My GOD.
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Originally Posted by j809
I think these Sheriff guys are just assisting the warrant unit with shitbird info from inside the walls. I believe MSP warrant unit is already working with Lowell PD. I remember years ago when Brockton PD teamed up with ATF,MSP,USMS,Sheriff and a few other agencies doing warrant sweeps.
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Originally Posted by j809
So they bought their way in with $$$. Otherwise, I am sure LPD would have chosen to work with real cops from MSP.
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open your eyes everyone.
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Originally Posted by chiefwiggum
Right, but all the guys in the Unit are Police academy trained and they do have powers of arrest. I think you'll see more of this type of thing with this Sheriff. Basically he's got a ton of $$$ and really wants to break into traditional police work.
He chooses to utilize old statue that gives them their powers of arrest that past Sheriffs haven't used. People have been saying it for years that this was going to happen but then others say Oh that would never happen... but guess what it's here they're evan being utilized by the SP for the details they can't fill. open your eyes everyone. |
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
The detail situation is based solely on what we cannot fill. With the addition of the 79th RTT, it has been harder than ever to get a detail, especially this time of year. The Pike, once plentifull, is even slowing down. Suffolk County used to get what we could not fill at the Big Pig. I have not seen the Sheriffs up there in a long time. Funding is also drying up for the LECS and Sheriffs because there is barely enough money for Golden Boy Deval to make good on his promise of 1000 new PO's. You are the one who needs to WAKE UP!!!
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
money is getting tight, i know that they are reconfiguring the money paid out for the boston bomb scare. original the sp was getting 700-800 but they've decided to filter 250 to the lec's. i'm sure that will help the cause.
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Originally Posted by gooday
The officers that go out to do the warrent apps probably do get some O.T.But we all know that this state is hurting for money so we will be lucky if they hire enough cops to take care of the streets. Believe me with or without the sheriffs they wont be able to hire enough, the moneys not there.I like the idea more cops it keeps me in buisness. If you try to say let the crime go up then they will have to hire, some other other politicians will go to the public and say they could have saved a fortune by using the sheriffs deputies that are have 101% rights and power to do warrent apps. Whos office name appears first on a warrent.
Thats not to say that its right, but I always look at things from both sides of the fence and try to see both oppinions. I would ask the department officers if they mind the Sheriffs helpling out, then it can be argued. But if it dont effect you it dont matter, why even care. |
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
money is getting tight, i know that they are reconfiguring the money paid out for the boston bomb scare. original the sp was getting 700-800 but they've decided to filter 250 to the lec's. i'm sure that will help the cause.
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Originally Posted by Mr.90/24
Goodday, we all appreciate your opinion but do me a favor...go heat up your hot coco and continue to monitor those camera's at Billerica!
The State isn't given the lec's anything....the lec's weren't even there! We have no one to blame but ourselves.....Shame on Lowell PD and every PD that calls the Sheriffs. I work for MSP I wouldn't ever have a Sheriff patrolling any of my highways or DCR Roads, but standby local pd's when the sheriffs take over your town and bump you out. County and State Policing is coming...standby to standby! |
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Originally Posted by Mr.90/24
We have no one to blame but ourselves.....Shame on Lowell PD and every PD that calls the Sheriffs. I work for MSP I wouldn't ever have a Sheriff patrolling any of my highways or DCR Roads, but standby local pd's when the sheriffs take over your town and bump you out. County and State Policing is coming...standby to standby!
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
Relax francis, "MY HIGHWAYS" is exactly why lec's and sheriffs are taking off. ego manics like you assure us our existence, still haven't figured that out, you are a dolt. thanks for your support, keep up the good work--mass hate police----
have no fear we'll still let you change flat tires on "MY HIGHWAYS". see you on the way to my next call .Oh and the money thing,,we'll see what happens...that new truck is going to look sweet driving down "your highways"... Dolt---- </IMG> |
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
Relax francis, "MY HIGHWAYS" is exactly why lec's and sheriffs are taking off. ego manics like you assure us our existence, still haven't figured that out, you are a dolt. thanks for your support, keep up the good work--mass hate police----
have no fear we'll still let you change flat tires on "MY HIGHWAYS". see you on the way to my next call .Oh and the money thing,,we'll see what happens...that new truck is going to look sweet driving down "your highways"... Dolt---- </IMG> |
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Originally Posted by alphadog1
New warrant unit nets 28 arrests since Jan. 28
The Lowell Sun Article Last Updated: 02/28/2007 11:49:02 AM LOWELL -- Lowell police in conjunction with deputies from the Middlesex County sheriff's office have formed a six-member warrant apprehension unit that has netted 28 arrests since its Jan. 28 inception. "These are the type of people who shouldn't be walking the streets of Lowell," Acting Police Commissioner Kenneth Lavallee said during a press conference on the new unit yesterday at the Lowell Police Department. Lavallee said the 28 arrests by the six members of the new unit -- three sheriff's deputies and three Lowell officers -- cleared 69 warrants for 144 different charges. "We're sending a strong message to the criminal element in the city that once a warrant is issued, it cannot be ignored," he said. Lavallee was joined yesterday by Middlesex Sheriff James DiPaola. "We look forward to more success and I congratulate and applaud the work that was done so far," DiPaola said. -- MICHAEL LAFLEUR |
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
At least when I go to a call, The Commonwealth pays for my gas. I will be more than happy to change a tire, but the Commonwealth takes care of that for us. How sweet is it going to be when you fill up that new truck and go to pay for it sunshine. I am glad I don' have that problem. Let me know how that goes, ok. [qoute]
uhm, not really sure what exactly that means but ok, i'll let you know. pretty sure the gas at my pumps is covered as well; man you're good, you really zinged me there.. fyi, locals don't have to pay for their own gas you dolt.... you're dismissed, go get your big brother. ---dolt |
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
At least when I go to a call, The Commonwealth pays for my gas. I will be more than happy to change a tire, but the Commonwealth takes care of that for us. How sweet is it going to be when you fill up that new truck and go to pay for it sunshine. I am glad I don' have that problem. Let me know how that goes, ok. [qoute]
uhm, not really sure what exactly that means but ok, i'll let you know. pretty sure the gas at my pumps is covered as well; man you're good, you really zinged me there.. fyi, locals don't have to pay for their own gas you dolt.... you're dismissed, go get your big brother. ---dolt |
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
So tell me superman, what town do you work for? You seem pretty important.
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
So tell me superman, what town do you work for? You seem pretty important.
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
i told you, you're dismissed, you bore me. no worries though bballick is here to fight your battles for you. i'll give'em credit he definitely maximizes his work time behind the desk writing witty posts on masscops. the state should be proud, you guys do a great job promoting our position. thanks again and keep on hating, we depend on it. ----dolt |
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Originally Posted by bbelichick
Translation: Dolt is Mall Security and has been found out.
Whacker. |
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Originally Posted by MM1799
Was he the one who pulled over Colon??
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Originally Posted by youareadolt
Relax francis, "MY HIGHWAYS" is exactly why lec's and sheriffs are taking off. ego manics like you assure us our existence, still haven't figured that out, you are a dolt. thanks for your support, keep up the good work--mass hate police----
have no fear we'll still let you change flat tires on "MY HIGHWAYS". see you on the way to my next call .Oh and the money thing,,we'll see what happens...that new truck is going to look sweet driving down "your highways"... Dolt Dolt? What are you in the fifth garde? Anyways, I was a local cop before in a lec community so I have the right to express my concern! I am not saying anything about "My HIGHWAY" or making any statements about us being better. You and I both know that the lec thing is wrong and if you were lucky enough to wear my uniform you would be bullshit too. I respect all cops and understand that the small town thing gets old. I also don't fault local guys/girls that go on the teams..One of my best friends is on SWAT. If anything the MSP is too nice, allowing your stupid PC's to drive crazy in the breakdown lanes to lowell. If lowell and Haverhill got out of lec....you would have almost no calls. I understand that you're excited about the opportunity and I respect a cop who wants to work, but it is wrong and you know it. Another thing.....don't you ever disrespect MSP and say change another tire on the highway.....we lose a Trooper a year in the line of duty. Have some respect and understand that the Troopers are in the worst and most dangerous units/areas in this State. |
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Originally Posted by Mr.90/24
I dunno 90/24, he sounds like someone who tried or wants to be on our job and can't, so he uses Masscops as therapy to deal with it.
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
Jesus H. Christ.....when are you guys going to get over the fact that not everyone who criticizes the MSP ever had the desire to be a trooper?? I don't know "dolt" and don't necessarily agree with him, but surely you can do better than that. |
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Originally Posted by Delta784
Criticizing is one thing, hate is another. I have no problem with critics. We are not perfect. I know I do my share of criticizing on this board, but dolts comments are spiked with hate. If you hate someone, there are only two reasons for this: either they wronged you or you wish to be them. Just my opinion. Take it any way you want. I don't hate Sheriffs, Locals or DOC. I am however critical of their actions at times. There is a difference.
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Originally Posted by bbelichick
My thoughts are that you are a tool.
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
Criticizing is one thing, hate is another. I have no problem with critics. We are not perfect. I know I do my share of criticizing on this board, but dolts comments are spiked with hate. If you hate someone, there are only two reasons for this: either they wronged you or you wish to be them. Just my opinion. Take it any way you want. I don't hate Sheriffs, Locals or DOC. I am however critical of their actions at times. There is a difference.
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Originally Posted by Delta784
Jesus H. Christ.....when are you guys going to get over the fact that not everyone who criticizes the MSP ever had the desire to be a trooper??
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Originally Posted by bbelichick
It comes from personal experience; I would say 90% of the locals I know that "hate the MSP" were in the Academy and quit or were ejected from the process. I am friends with many local guys and most of them have ZERO problem with the MSP. The most vocal ones have a "history" if you dig a little further.
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Originally Posted by bbelichick
It comes from personal experience; I would say 90% of the locals I know that "hate the MSP" were in the Academy and quit or were ejected from the process.
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Originally Posted by PBC FL Cop
Now Coach, you clearly HATE sheriff's, so should we believe there is a deputy sheriff application out there, somewhere, with your name on it and a big red REJECTED stamp across it
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Originally Posted by Mr.90/24
Most Troopers don't have the thinking process of "Make A F***ing Hole" most were locals, sheriffs, DOC, even fed's that are happy to assist local/city pd's and make friends.
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Originally Posted by 94c
Let's all bow our heads to the almighty MSP.
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The State Police are the experts in motor vehicle law, OUI's Accident Recon, and making gun and drug arrests off civil violations. |
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Most Troopers are honest, hard working men/women who want to do the right thing... |
| If everyone did what they were intended to do, locals patrol their city/town, sheriffs work the jails and gather intel (which is very valuable info for all of us) and State Police patrol the STATE! We would make everything right again |
| The lec's are wrong and trying to take more of our jobs...ie. Crime Scene, Swat, Computer Crime, etc.... |
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Even members of the lec's that I am friends with say that it is wrong. |
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
Intelligent. Now take your ball and go home.
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Originally Posted by 94c
Can't be a coincidence that all the asshole troopers on this site are from the 77th now can it?
Get some experience under your belt and you'll turn out alright. |
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Originally Posted by ferus fidelitas
94c is a whacker, just like some of his inexperienced college officer and deputy friends - he has no clue....they need their own web site forum.. very, very different jobs.
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Originally Posted by 94c
Can't be a coincidence that all the asshole troopers on this site are from the 77th now can it?
Get some experience under your belt and you'll turn out alright. |
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Originally Posted by nirtallica
Oh I know, your comments on this board are always of the positive nature. Maybe we should all bow down to you with your enormous amounts of infinate wisdom and experience since you seem to think myself and my classmates are not worthy enough to post our opinions or respond to your rants!
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Originally Posted by ferus fidelitas
94c is a whacker, just like some of his inexperienced college officer and deputy friends - he has no clue....they need their own web site forum.. very, very different jobs.
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Originally Posted by BB-59
Any chance we stop bashing the hell out of each other? I would hate to see what the bad guys are gonna do to us if we attack each other like this.
To some point it is funny, but we are going way past that point. |
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Originally Posted by 94c
well, we make over 6,000 arrests a year and respond to over 90,000 calls. Lightweight.
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Originally Posted by 94c
Ya well, Ferret Face Fidelitas likes to pounce out of his hole in the ground every once in a while and try to bite peoples ankles.
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Originally Posted by bbelichick
94C seems to hate Deputies if you ask me. I don;t think he has "Deputy friends".
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Originally Posted by 94c
Can't be a coincidence that all the asshole troopers on this site are from the 77th now can it?
Get some experience under your belt and you'll turn out alright. |
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