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Posted by: DC10

I am not from Mass and see many postings on Mass Sherifss depts and was curious if it is possible to be hired as what sounds like a patrol-deputy sheriff as compared to a jailer/co type of deputy if you have police officer/college background?

From many of the posts it looks like there all political patronage jobs OR you start out as a CO and hope to get transferred into a patrol position.

I appreciate any information from people working in these positions.

DC-



Posted by: j809

There is no patrol function for the Sheriffs in Mass. They are jailers,hacks and civil paper processers.



Posted by: pahapoika

oh brother, here we go

to answer your question DC10 , county jails in Mass. only preform jailer duties and provide a small amount of traffic and crowd control when needed.

County Jails are responsible for criminal offenders that serve 2 1/2 years or less incarceration. offenders with longer sentences go to a state prison.

although the county jail does house other inmates like swaping with state inmates and handling ICE

unfortunately some finical backers of the sheriffs are given "Honorary Deputy" badges. however a quick check for I.D. will expose these imposters.

none the less , this patronage stirs the never ending ire of the local and state police. the sworn enemy of the phoney deputy

the guys and gals that work inside the county jails are good kids and allot of them become state and local cops.

it's the "hacks" as we like to call them in Mass. that give everybody else a bad name.
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Posted by: Inspector

If you want to be a police officer with patrol responsibility then you have to apply to be a police officer in Massachusetts. If you want to be a sheriff with patrol responsibilities then apply to some other state where sheriffs clearly have that duty as part of routine. In many states the s.o separate correction from patrol divisions and you can apply to either. In some you get on the job in the jail and work your way to the streets. Check individual department websites, especially in the south or west. Checking this site may also show you many openings as Barbrady posted many positions not too long ago. As for sheriff positions outside Massachusetts but still in New England there are departments with patrol duties in Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont. I cannot speak for Vermont or Maine but New Hampshire counties separate correction duties from sheriff duties and the number of patrol deputies is usually very limited and in many cases they are part time deputies who are former police officers augmenting their retirement.



Posted by: K.Lavoie

They are correct about not having patrols. Although, if you are politically connected, you can get into K-9, Warrant Apprehension, become part of the drug task force, work with ICE as a special assignment, or get into the Civil Division Full time.
The other thing that you can do is to become a full time Corrections Officer and then become a part-time Deputy Sheriff for the Details. This is only speaking of the department that I used to work for, and others might be different.



Posted by: mpd61

Quote:
Originally Posted by K.Lavoie
They are correct about not having patrols. Although, if you are politically connected, you can get into K-9, Warrant Apprehension, become part of the drug task force, work with ICE as a special assignment, or get into the Civil Division Full time.
The other thing that you can do is to become a full time Corrections Officer and then become a part-time Deputy Sheriff for the Details. This is only speaking of the department that I used to work for, and others might be different.
JEEZUS!

Quit giving this person false hopes/info.....................
MASSACHUSETTS SHERIFFS= No patrol/police duties. As for the K-9, Civil Process, Etc.....These are POLITICAL or UNION/POLITICAL mix inside jobs!
Yeesh

Wanna be a cop in Mass? You got prior experience somewhere else? Then come take the Civil Service test and/or apply to any of the numerous Non-civil service towns.



Posted by: Wolfman





Posted by: Killjoy

Quote:
I am not from Mass and see many postings on Mass Sherifss depts and was curious if it is possible to be hired as what sounds like a patrol-deputy sheriff as compared to a jailer/co type of deputy if you have police officer/college background?

From many of the posts it looks like there all political patronage jobs OR you start out as a CO and hope to get transferred into a patrol position.

I appreciate any information from people working in these positions.

DC-
Bring your campaign sign and your checkbook!



Posted by: j809

Don't forget your kneepads. Ask Otto



Posted by: HousingCop

Quote:
There is no patrol function for the Sheriffs in Mass. They are jailers,hacks and civil paper processers.
Why is it that every time there is a Sheriff thread, you've got to pipe up and add your .02 cents? Shut your pie hole. I know plenty of MA Sheriff's who would put you to shame on patrol procedures and are twice the cop you'll ever be. Go back to catching the Route 2 overpass pumpkin throwers and leave the real Police work to the men & women who wear the star.

Quote:
Don't forget your kneepads. Ask Otto
Maybe DC10 can borrow yours instead? Now go press the print button for your file so you can add this post to the many others you've printed out about me and hope to one day send to the proper authorities.

Quite bashing the Sheriff's when your own back yard needs cleaning. When you point a finger at somebody, 3 point back at you.



Posted by: j809

Ok Housing400 Security Guard, go back to the bricks where you belong as you are a bitter asshole that is untouchable by any PD. You're stuck forever and are just so bitter. Hey what are you going to do when BPD won't take you if the merger goes through. I guess you and your fat italian butt boy from Brockton will be working together as meter maids in Boston.



Posted by: HousingCop

Oh yes, I forgot. The bitterness factor. I am forever untouchable by any PD. You're correct. Which PD wants an experienced veteran officer who walks one of the worst beats in the state? Let's just ask about 40 different agencies who have picked up ex- Boston Housing cops in the last 20 years or so?

My nightly commute up Blue Hill Ave to Elm Hill Ave to Egleston Square is more dangerous than in a month of Sundays in Snoozeville MA where you practice your trade.

I'm holding my breath for the "impending merger", which I won't be a part of, in your words. It wouldn't matter to me if we did or didn't merge. Been there, done that. I'd be just as happy doing my current job as I would in any other profession, including being a Deputy Sheriff.

I had started to say that the Deputy Sheriff / Corrections Officer has to watch over the prisoners you've put into the criminal justice system. I'd be remiss if I didn't think that the possibility of that happening is Slim to none, and Slim just left town!

Knowing of your career you've had on the various Mean Streets of the massive 1.675 acre Community College campus you patrolled and the VA Hospital you did Detex at, along with the upscale and affluent community you now patrol (notice I said patrol, not police work) you have the unmitigated gall to post about the Deputy Sheriff's who in my eyes do the toughest beat of all??? Dude, you've got brass ones there. I don't think you'd make it to pay day behind the wall if you ever had to work there.

So, in conclusion, I am a bitter asshole. But as I have said before, I may be that, but at least I am not YOU.



Posted by: j809

Unlike you, responding to nonsense and dealing with the scum of the earth for a measly 45K and avoiding any police work possible, working in my affluent community involves proactivity, something you know nothing of. It was the same at MCC and same here, same as most troopers and good officers do everywhere, be proactive and not be a bitter ass with a big mouth and a chip on his shoulder that wil never go anywhere. Oh yeah, I'll be glad to chase pumpkin throwers, meanwhile I'll make my 120K a year , drive my new unmarked 06 CV enjoying all the beautiful scenery and I am very very happy. I'll be happy to compare stats with you anyday.Meanwhile you just keep posting on this site acting like a big city cop. And yes you have great officers on your PD that went other places, what I said is that YOU are untouchable.

Also, i never worked for any VA hospital but I did work security and did my detex rounds around 17 years ago. Great experience but I'd hate to still be a security guard at my age like you are.



Posted by: HousingCop

I've noticed you've had to edit your last 2 posting on this thread. Something wrong there, or are your fingertips too big?

Where I work, the circus comes to me. No need to go digging for work, it's always there. Hence, the bad guy goes to jail where the D/S - C/O has to deal with them. These men & women who you defile on a regular basis work that beat, one you could NEVER muster enough courage to walk.

All the more power to you if you make $120 K/yr and drive a new '06 C/V and enjoy all the scenery Snoozeville USA has to offer. But remember, being a braggart about your paycheck is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Some of us can make 1/3 of that, still be happy in the job we do, look in the mirror daily and not have to see YOU.

This is a thread about Sheriff's. How about at least devoting a sentence or two to the topic at hand instead of TRYING to bash me?



Posted by: j809

Simple, Sheriff deputies are process servers and I never attacked any COs in any of my previous posts, have nothing against COs, just hacks.
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Some of us can make 1/3 of that, still be happy in the job we do
LMFAO. Yeah right, you are bitter and stuck. When is the last time you did some work?



Posted by: Gil

Enough guys, take it to private messaging please.



Posted by: HousingCop

Nah, I don't want to message with him, Gil. I might type something that may be print worthy for the uber secret probation file he's compiling about me. I'd much rather stay on topic like I have, and keep it in an open forum where others can see how much of a tool he actually is.



Posted by: j809

The only tool here is you HC zero. You have proven that over the years. People hate you here and at work. Sucks to be such an ass,everyone hating you. Pu*y, always posting like a tough guy, acts like a city cop but never even grew up in a city.



Posted by: DPD77

DING DING...ROUND ONE IS OVER GUYS... NOW TO GET BACK ON TOPIC FOR DC10. THE SHERIFF'S JOB IN MA IS MAINLY FOR CUSTODY OF PRISONERS. THE CLOSEST ONE MIGHT GET TO PATROL IS TO WORK IN TRANSPORTATION. BACK AND FORTH FROM THE COURTS, OTHER THAN THAT THERE'S K9 OR WARRANT APPREHENSION. BEEN THERE DONE IT FOR 12 YEARS BEHIND THE WALL, AND MET ALOT OF GREAT NEW FRIENDS, ALOT OF WHOM STILL WORK THERE. YES THE JOB IS POLITICAL, AS IS MOST ANY OTHER JOB WORTH IT'S WHILE IN THIS STATE.



Posted by: gooday

Wow this is pretty sad and some people are very shallow. Why do some feel the need to put people down. In my opinion Housing police, Staties, Corrections officers, Campus police, Dispatchers, EMT's ,Fire Fighters, Municipal Police and City police all do a job to be proud of regardless of pay. Pay just means your union had a better political connection at one point bottom line. The I'm better then you is crap, the this guys a hack is crap, If you go out and do a good thats what counts. Can the public and your fellow Officers, EMT's and Firefighters count on you, if so your doing a good job so be proud and anyone that has to play the look how great I got it game trully is not all that great. Keep up the good work guys and stay safe and lets respect eachother.

As far as Deputies go, they dont patrol in this state but they could if they wanted to they have full arrest powers under the state law. Warrent apprehention, civil prosses and some details here and there is about all they practice. Sometimes they go with the ICE units for INS warrent pickups do to the fact that the jails house INS detainees and federal inmates. Some guys get worried thier toes will get stepped on and we will start patrolling and I can see thier point but that is just not going to happen. So from the origanal post, if you dont want to work around inmates, try dispatching for a P.D, becoming a special, Apply at the Campuses and see what happens until what you want comes up. These jobs most of all the corrections or the Campus police are great on your resume to help with the prosses, but remember that prosses can be long. good luck



Posted by: Gil

In an attempt to bring this slightly on topic...

Hats off to the two Bristol County Sheriff's Deputies who joined one of our Sergeants in a foot pursuit the other day.

Thanks for the assist, nice job!



Posted by: Otto

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
Simple, Sheriff deputies are process servers and I never attacked any COs in any of my previous posts, have nothing against COs, just hacks.

LMFAO. Yeah right, you are bitter and stuck. When is the last time you did some work?
I am a c.o. (and a deputy sheriff). You throw cheap shots at me every chance you get.



Posted by: DPD77

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gil
In an attempt to bring this slightly on topic...

Hats off to the two Bristol County Sheriff's Deputies who joined one of our Sergeants in a foot pursuit the other day.

Thanks for the assist, nice job!

Hey Guys, see that? We all wear blue of one shade or another. My hats off to those Deputies for their assist. I'll bet that Sergeant was greatful that they helped. I do remember on the news a while back a certiain MBTA Sergeant having to do battle with some crackhead at Ruggles T station and it was filmed by a bystander. I watched in disgust as many vehicles drove by and pedestrians avoided the situation. The camera operator was too busy filming before she decided to call 911. By that time the Sergeant was exhuasted, and finally a couple of bystanders helped out once they saw he had the perp under control. I would well appreciate the help of anyone, no matter who it was, police,fire,emt,deputy,correctional officer,security,whoever when the sh*t hits the fan and I'm struggling with a perp. One thing you will never see in my threads is bashing the Deputies and CO's, as they do an outstanding job that I know alot of PO's wouldn't even think of doing.



Posted by: rocksy1826

Quote:
Originally Posted by HousingCop

My nightly commute up Blue Hill Ave to Elm Hill Ave to Egleston Square is more dangerous than in a month of Sundays in Snoozeville MA where you practice your trade.

right there, i commend you. I have some regular calls there along with the emergency contracts for some facilities there. I wouldnt want to be there late at night. Even if I had a gun.



Posted by: k9sheriff

I wonder if Masscops would have to shut down if the Sheriff's were abolished in Massachusetts and there wouldn't be enough topic matter left to keep up any interest in the website.(lol)Even though I work for a sheriif's department, these topics keep me laughing.Anyway, our regional lock-up is slated for groundbreaking by August with over 40,000 square feet, two stories high and a office for local Police Departments to conduct buissiness.Also rumor is, that they might put the regional 911 center,that the Police Departments are pushing for at the new facility.(not to be run by the sheriff's, but use for the location).



Posted by: 4ransom

This sherriff bashing is gettling lame, boring, not to mention cruel.

And saying anything more will be putting fuel on the fire so other than cut the shit, I have nothing else to say.



Posted by: Delta784

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
I'll be happy to compare stats with you anyday.
I'd love to see that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
Meanwhile you just keep posting on this site acting like a big city cop.
In your world, Boston doesn't qualify as a big city??

Quote:
Originally Posted by j809
Great experience but I'd hate to still be a security guard at my age like you are.
Trust me, HC is about the furthest thing from a security guard you could imagine. I worked there for 6 years, and wouldn't trade that experience for anything.

I once got a gun arrest when I was on the way from the station to get a cup of coffee. Somehow, I don't think that happens too much where you work, but please correct me if I'm wrong.



Posted by: k9sheriff

Don't you guys get it?This site is suppose to be for sheriff bashing;just who do you think you are.Please stay on topic or your really going to confuse people.



Posted by: a little to the right

all i know is FITZPATRICK RULES



Posted by: Wolfman

Say goodnight, Gracie...





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